[Special Moderation] Why I'm excited to vote Republican this cycle.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33867]

43 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

He hasn’t put any of his political enemies in jail, unlike the left.

let's assume that is true, trump has said he wants to jail his enemies in his second term. do you support that? 

[immamac 42837]

38 minutes ago, ConferenceRoom said:

I will positively contribute to his reputation the next time he adds to the discussion earnestly. 

You don't make the fucking rules I do. Neg again and you get time off. 

[ConferenceRoom 6141]

14 minutes ago, immamac said:

You don't make the fucking rules I do. Neg again and you get time off. 

 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13509]

2 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

This.  You put Kamala’s policies on a sheet side by side with Reagan and outside of abortion they’d be mostly in line.  My dad said he has never voted for trump but won’t vote Dem either for “reasons”.   I told him if he wants his party back he needs to purge it by voting dem.  But people are so broken brained with party over country that they can’t bring themselves to do it even though they are pretty damn close on policy.   Outside of taxes, where he is probably actually benefited by not having Trump’s SALT cap, he can’t name a policy Kamala has that will harm him.   But he “knew her as a prosecutor” (I don’t know what that means other than he was in-house opposite of her at some point back when he still lawyered).  Fuck that noise. It’s so dumb.   And it’s typical.  We need a better permission structure in the GOP I guess to convince people they won’t spontaneously combust if they vote or the D at the top of the ticket. 
 

GWB, Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, Mike Pence, I’m looking at you chicken shits. 

GWB has turned out to be the biggest coward. I didn't agree with many of the positions or policies but I had respect for him by the time he left office. I actually don't even believe that he votes for Trump and may vote Kamala, but he's afraid to say it.

[Stros121 4]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

Do people deserve to go to jail when they commit legitimate crimes?

Depends on the crime.

[Satchel 6933]

19 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

GWB has turned out to be the biggest coward. I didn't agree with many of the positions or policies but I had respect for him by the time he left office. I actually don't even believe that he votes for Trump and may vote Kamala, but he's afraid to say it.

His money friends are leaning on him to remain noncommittal. That’s my guess.

[TwiceHorn 31440]

2 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

Depends on the crime.

Trump has yet to and may not go to jail, because, yeah it depends on the crime.  Because the justice system is mostly operating pretty normally.

[SydneyCarton 48058]

Just now, Stros121 said:

Depends on the crime.

Are you implying the the judges in the January 6th cases where people were found, and in many cases PLED guilty to their charges, somehow didn't follow the sentencing guidelines for those crimes? Judges that spanned all political parties? Because I'd like for you to explain your statement that only the left is "jailing" political opponents. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26437]

1 hour ago, Stros121 said:

He hasn’t put any of his political enemies in jail, unlike the left.

It wasn’t for lack of trying:

Wait can you provide an example of the left putting political enemies in jail? Also, who is “the left,” in your opinion? 

Edited October 22 by Bozo_Casanova

[Stros121 4]

57 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

let's assume that is true, trump has said he wants to jail his enemies in his second term. do you support that? 

Trump is a shit talking business man.  when comes down to it he’s a pussy. Trump didn’t go after clinton last time, so I have to go by his record on that.

[GenXer 2850]

The Lock her up crowd is projecting. Again.

[royiv 9262]

2 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

Trump is a shit talking business man.  when comes down to it he’s a pussy. Trump didn’t go after clinton last time, so I have to go by his record on that.

Who is the “left” jailing? And please define who the “left” is.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33867]

3 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

Trump is a shit talking business man.  when comes down to it he’s a pussy. Trump didn’t go after clinton last time, so I have to go by his record on that.

so which parts of what he says should we believe? he said he wants to be dictator on day one. was that bluster? just today he said he wants the type of generals hitler had. do we believe that? 

Edited October 22 by Longhorn_Fan68

[Stros121 4]

22 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Are you implying the the judges in the January 6th cases where people were found, and in many cases PLED guilty to their charges, somehow didn't follow the sentencing guidelines for those crimes? Judges that spanned all political parties? Because I'd like for you to explain your statement that only the left is "jailing" political opponents. 

I want to see all the tapes and evidence on Jan 6. Who ever has them should release to the public.

[royiv 9262]

17 hours ago, Stros121 said:

I honestly think Donald Trump loves America, and wants the best for all Americans. 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

Trump is a shit talking business man.  when comes down to it he’s a pussy. Trump didn’t go after clinton last time, so I have to go by his record on that.

Same guy? 

[Bozo_Casanova 26437]

8 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

Trump is a shit talking business man.  when comes down to it he’s a pussy. Trump didn’t go after clinton last time, so I have to go by his record on that.

False. He repeatedly suggested the JD intiate investigations and ultimately appointed a special prosecutor. He also illegally withheld foreign aid to Ukraine trying to get them to investigate or produce material on Biden, which is why he was impeached. 

Edited October 22 by Bozo_Casanova

[Stros121 4]

2 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

so which parts of what he says should we believe? he said he wants to be dictator on day one. was that bluster? just today he said he wants the type of generals hitler had. do we believe that? 

Every president has made executive orders on day one. Why is that such a big deal. Anyone with common sense would understand that. 

[SimonBolivar 10957]

2 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

Trump is a shit talking business man.  when comes down to it he’s a pussy. Trump didn’t go after clinton last time, so I have to go by his record on that.

Interesting and that's a different answer than the Trumpers I interact with daily at work that are all older and 100% believe that he's going to do everything that he says he's going to do.

 

I have a question that is sort of tangential to this one. Do you believe he is really going to round up millions of undocumented immigrants and if so, how do you think that would impact the economy? If he is again just bullshiting around, then what are his actual policies that you think he's serious about that makes you excited to vote for him? Also how do you feel about adding tariffs as a fight against inflation when that's the exact opposite of how it actually works? 

Thanks for participating. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26437]

7 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

I want to see all the tapes and evidence on Jan 6. Who ever has them should release to the public.

Welcome to a year go and Enjoy your 40k hours of footage

Edited October 22 by Bozo_Casanova

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

9 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

Trump is a shit talking business man.  when comes down to it he’s a pussy. Trump didn’t go after clinton last time, so I have to go by his record on that.

Don't mix up his ineptitude in his last administration with what power he'll be able to wield in any future one.  He came in as an outsider who didn't know how to work the system,  with an added layer of people who controlled parts of the system not allowing his requests to be fulfilled.  He learned from last time and has a plan to clear the way so that actions can be realized when he so chooses due to an army of yes men.  I agree and think he is a pussy,  but still very capable of inflicting his malice on who he wants if he gets bank in. 

[TwiceHorn 31440]

4 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

I want to see all the tapes and evidence on Jan 6. Who ever has them should release to the public.

You realize that there are hours and hours of video that are publicly available?  That many of the more than 1000 indicted and hundreds that have been convicted so far were caught on video committing the crimes with which they were charged?

Where on earth would you get the idea that someone has the tapes and evidence and that it would somehow counter what anyone can plainly see constitutes trespassing in a restricted area, vandalism, and assault, among other crimes?

Where do you get your "news"?

[Gatorubet 30185]

11 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

Trump is a shit talking business man.  when comes down to it he’s a pussy. Trump didn’t go after clinton last time, so I have to go by his record on that.

did you somehow happen to miss that all the normal respecters of the constitution who surrounded him on his first term are now gone, now his enemies, and shit talking him while reminding us of the things they kept him from doing? 

Did you ever consider that losing the guard rails of sane competent people who respect the constitution will have an effect on his second term - when he is solely surrounded by sycophants and toadies right now, and has no intention of hiring those people who held him back last time

[Bozo_Casanova 26437]

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

You realize that there are hours and hours of video that are publicly available?  That many of the more than 1000 indicted and hundreds that have been convicted so far were caught on video committing the crimes with which they were charged?

Where on earth would you get the idea that someone has the tapes and evidence and that it would somehow counter what anyone can plainly see constitutes trespassing in a restricted area, vandalism, and assault, among other crimes?

Where do you get your "news"?

A few years ago I printed a bumper sticker that said “I only believe what I hear at Sportsman’s Barbershop, and I vote!”

[texasdago 7568]

2 hours ago, Stros121 said:

He hasn’t put any of his political enemies in jail, unlike the left.

Can you provide me some concrete examples where political enemies were jailed and had not committed a criminal offense?

[SydneyCarton 48058]

22 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

I want to see all the tapes and evidence on Jan 6. Who ever has them should release to the public.

As other poster have said, all of that information has been released. And Tucker Carlson got it all directly from Kevin McCarthy. That was a huge news story at the time. And yet still all of these people have gone to jail and many pled guilty. 
 

You also didn’t answer my question: who has “the left” jailed?

[Stros121 4]

22 minutes ago, royiv said:

Who is the “left” jailing? And please define who the “left” is.

16 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Interesting and that's a different answer than the Trumpers I interact with daily at work that are all older and 100% believe that he's going to do everything that he says he's going to do.

 

I have a question that is sort of tangential to this one. Do you believe he is really going to round up millions of undocumented immigrants and if so, how do you think that would impact the economy? If he is again just bullshiting around, then what are his actual policies that you think he's serious about that makes you excited to vote for him? Also how do you feel about adding tariffs as a fight against inflation when that's the exact opposite of how it actually works? 

Thanks for participating. 

No, I don’t think there’s a chance in hell that he deports all illegals. It’s not logistically possible or financially. I do think he will wall off the border. I also think he will deport a lot of illegal/migrant criminals. 
 

The inflated prices aren’t going down unless your salary is going up.

 

I’ll be back later 

[Hank Kingsley 20906]

7 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

No, I don’t think there’s a chance in hell that he deports all illegals. It’s not logistically possible or financially. I do think he will wall off the border. I also think he will deport a lot of illegal/migrant criminals. 
 

The inflated prices aren’t going down unless your salary is going up.

 

I’ll be back later 

Appreciate you responding on this thread. 

One thing that frustrates me is how can a Trump voter siphon through the bullshit of what he will or won't do? "I think this particular thing is bluster, this other thing is to trigger the libs, but I believe he'll get this other thing accomplished." Why give him the benefit of the doubt on anything? It feel likes every supporter of his personally curates through all the bullshit to find their talking points on why he'd be a good President. It's fantasyland fiction. Why do people feel like they owe a man that has scammed and conned people his entire adult life any grace? 

 

Edited October 22 by Hank Kingsley

[Bozo_Casanova 26437]

10 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

I’ll be back later 

Hopefully at that time you can share who the left jailed and who is the left

[TwiceHorn 31440]

2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Hopefully at that time you can share who the left jailed and who is the left

Well, someone jailed Trump allies Manafort and Stone, or at least secured their convictions.  Oddly enough, though, Trump sat atop the Justice Department at that time.

Maybe, just maybe, the President and his administration aren't actually responsible for prosecution decisions, at least heretofore.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33867]

1 hour ago, Stros121 said:

Trump is a shit talking business man.  when comes down to it he’s a pussy. Trump didn’t go after clinton last time, so I have to go by his record on that.

what if he says something more than 100 times. do we believe that?:
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/21/nx-s1-5134924/trump-election-2024-kamala-harris-elizabeth-cheney-threat-civil-liberties

1 hour ago, Stros121 said:

Every president has made executive orders on day one. Why is that such a big deal. Anyone with common sense would understand that. 

lol, executive orders and being a dictator are not even remotely the same thing, and I think (hope?) you know that. common sense and all.

[Horn Dog 9816]

1 hour ago, Stros121 said:

Trump didn’t go after clinton last time, so I have to go by his record on that.

He absolutely did try-

https://apnews.com/article/060ca2399a744b4a9554dbd2ec276a90

 

He also pressured Barr to prosecute Biden and Obama as well as Clinton-

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-demands-barr-arrest-foes-427389

[Brisketexan 105075]

1 hour ago, Stros121 said:

Depends on the crime  the race and social status of the accused.

Fixed it for the "in groups who the laws protect, but do not bind, and out groups who the law binds but does not protect" crowd.

1 hour ago, Stros121 said:

I want to see all the tapes and evidence on Jan 6. Who ever has them should release to the public.

I mean....what the.....for fucks sake....I just......you know that.....holy fuck.....

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Welcome to a year go and Enjoy your 40k hours of footage

.....THIS.

56 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

A few years ago I printed a bumper sticker that said “I only believe what I hear at Sportsman’s Barbershop, and I vote!”

Goddamn.  I miss the Sportsman.  Got my hair cut there once next to James Michener, last haircut of his life (he passed away maybe two months later).

[royiv 9262]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Goddamn.  I miss the Sportsman.  Got my hair cut there once next to James Michener, last haircut of his life (he passed away maybe two months later).

Which one of you got Frosted?

[Biff Tannen 45665]

57 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

I do think he will wall off the border.

This is actually less likely than him deporting the “illegals” (as well as a fuck ton of legal immigrants). 

[Stros121 4]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

As other poster have said, all of that information has been released. And Tucker Carlson got it all directly from Kevin McCarthy. That was a huge news story at the time. And yet still all of these people have gone to jail and many pled guilty. 
 

You also didn’t answer my question: who has “the left” jailed?

Christopher Wray said the fbi still has a ongoing investigation into jan6.

[Bozo_Casanova 26437]

33 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

He absolutely did try-

https://apnews.com/article/060ca2399a744b4a9554dbd2ec276a90

 

He also pressured Barr to prosecute Biden and Obama as well as Clinton-

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-demands-barr-arrest-foes-427389

 

Stros121:

 

[Gatorubet 30185]

31 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Goddamn.  I miss the Sportsman.  Got my hair cut there once next to James Michener, last haircut of his life (he passed away maybe two months later).

1) had you been consuming cheap breakfast tacos the morning you sat next to him?

2) Can you talk about why he passed? I mean, is it a statute of limitations thing?

[Brisketexan 105075]

4 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

1) had you been consuming cheap breakfast tacos the morning you sat next to him?

2) Can you talk about why he passed? I mean, is it a statute of limitations thing?

I mean....he was 90 years old.  

But yeah, I'm sure I had eaten cheap breakfast tacos.  I get my hair cut on Saturdays, and that's a go-to weekend breakfast.  But many, many other people have survived haircuts next to me.

[Born to Run 6569]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

You realize that there are hours and hours of video that are publicly available?  That many of the more than 1000 indicted and hundreds that have been convicted so far were caught on video committing the crimes with which they were charged?

Where on earth would you get the idea that someone has the tapes and evidence and that it would somehow counter what anyone can plainly see constitutes trespassing in a restricted area, vandalism, and assault, among other crimes?

Where do you get your "news"?

In real time I was gobsmacked that they weren't getting mowed down by gunfire or fucking droned.

[TwiceHorn 31440]

9 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

Christopher Wray said the fbi still has a ongoing investigation into jan6.

Yes they continue to pore over the video and other evidence to arrest and charge others. 

They still haven't proven that MTG was the pipe bomber. 

[Born to Run 6569]

5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I mean....he was 90 years old.  

But yeah, I'm sure I had eaten cheap breakfast tacos.  I get my hair cut on Saturdays, and that's a go-to weekend breakfast.  But many, many other people have survived haircuts next to me.

But for how long?  Some are artist with swear words, others oils and clay, others flatulence.  A Fartist if you will. 

[Bullneck 19073]

For all the Trump voters here: just do me a favor.  When the economy goes to hell, don't say "Hillary is controlling things behind the scenes" or "It's the deep state" or "He's a great man, but he surrounded himself with bad people."

Just own it.  You helped destroy our democracy and there's no way to fix it.

[Stros121 4]

46 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

what if he says something more than 100 times. do we believe that?:
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/21/nx-s1-5134924/trump-election-2024-kamala-harris-elizabeth-cheney-threat-civil-liberties

lol, executive orders and being a dictator are not even remotely the same thing, and I think (hope?) you know that. common sense and all.

See this is what I don’t get. It’s just a incorrect caricature of what you want to be true because you hate trump. so it’s a gotcha for trump. Same as there are good people on both sides. 

[SydneyCarton 48058]

28 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

Christopher Wray said the fbi still has an ongoing investigation into jan6.

So if illegal shit is still being traced what does that have to do with anything? Also Christopher Wray is a lifelong republican. So he isn’t the left. Who has the left jailed?

[Biff Tannen 45665]

2 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

See this is what I don’t get. It’s just an incorrect caricature of what you want to be true because you hate trump. so it’s a gotcha for trump. Same as there are good people on both sides. 

Direct quotes are not incorrect caricatures. They are his words. 

[SubliminalHorn 6786]

12 minutes ago, Stros121 said:

See this is what I don’t get. It’s just an incorrect caricature of what you want to be true because you hate trump. so it’s a gotcha for trump. Same as there are good people on both sides. 

HE SAID IT. How is that a caricature?

[Stros121 4]

2 hours ago, texasdago said:

Can you provide me some concrete examples where political enemies were jailed and had not committed a criminal offense?

I didn’t say they didn’t commit a criminal offense.

[SydneyCarton 48058]

Just now, Stros121 said:

I didn’t say they didn’t commit a criminal offense.

So you have a problem throwing certain criminals in jail when they commit crimes?

[Stros121 4]

31 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

For all the Trump voters here: just do me a favor.  When the economy goes to hell, don't say "Hillary is controlling things behind the scenes" or "It's the deep state" or "He's a great man, but he surrounded himself with bad people."

Just own it.  You helped destroy our democracy and there's no way to fix it.

That goes for both candidates 

[wildcat09 29346]

1 hour ago, Stros121 said:

Christopher Wray said the fbi still has a ongoing investigation into jan6.

You idiots know you're getting trolled, right? He's openly saying he thinks 1/6 was cool and good and that this guy shouldn't have been punished:

This is who he is.  Do y'all think you're going to persuade him or something?