Colin Allred, running the two minute offense

[Ghost of LL 15531]

I'm just going to tell you--if by some miracle Colin Allred got elected, we'd learn to hate him in pretty quick order.  There's no question he would become a Texas version of Joe Manchin.  Or worse--a fucking Kyrsten Sinema.

[royiv 9244]

2 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I'm just going to tell you--if by some miracle Colin Allred got elected, we'd learn to hate him in pretty quick order.  There's no question he would become a Texas version of Joe Manchin.  Or worse--a fucking Kyrsten Sinema.

100% agree with this, but at least we would be rid of Cruz. I compare it to when I lived in Maricopa County. I voted against Arpaio in every election whether or not I liked the other person’s politics. I just wanted Arpaio gone. I figured we could deal with the other guy later if he turned into a shitheel. It’s what we’re seeing in the AZ Senate race. Synema (ashamed to admit I donated to her race 6 years ago) morphed into what she is today and AZ will now likely get a newly minted badass in the form of Gallego.

[tx ind 7006]

8 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I'm just going to tell you--if by some miracle Colin Allred got elected, we'd learn to hate him in pretty quick order.  There's no question he would become a Texas version of Joe Manchin.  Or worse--a fucking Kyrsten Sinema.

But he's not Ted Cruz.

[Chuckie Finster 22692]

I'm just going to tell you--if by some miracle Colin Allred got elected, we'd learn to hate him in pretty quick order.  There's no question he would become a Texas version of Joe Manchin.  Or worse--a fucking Kyrsten Sinema.

Manchin, for all his faults, had easily the highest WAR among senators in at least the past decade. A fence-straddler isn’t the ideal Democratic Senator, but it’s loads better than Ted fucking Cruz.

[Js1 85260]

Any Democrat is better than Ted. I’d crawl across broken glass to vote for Manchin over Ted.

Allred might be the difference between 50/50 and no more filibuster or 51/49 and Majority Leader Cruz 

Edited September 19 by Js1

[The Dog 44017]

 

[Brisketexan 105047]

 

This is Texas. 11% of votes are still outstanding in that poll. They’ll come home to Cruz at a 60-40 pace.

[StassneyHorn 6573]

lol Biden had enough votes in 2020 to win the previous election by 500k. It’s all about depressing Republican turnout, energy, momentum, whatever you want to call it. Before 2020 there was a very flat, very real ceiling of 4.5-4.7 million votes for Republicans since 2004

[Satchel 6925]

3 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

I'm just going to tell you--if by some miracle Colin Allred got elected, we'd learn to hate him in pretty quick order.  There's no question he would become a Texas version of Joe Manchin.  Or worse--a fucking Kyrsten Sinema.

What in his voting record indicates he’d be anything like that?

[StassneyHorn 6573]

Nothing, this board is addicted to doom posting and shit talking the state party that has grown their numbers exponentially

[Jive Turkey 12593]

On 9/16/2024 at 3:18 PM, Jive Turkey said:

I think this is the commercial I saw watching football this weekend. Or a similar commercial calling him Cancun Cruz. Definitely more pointed. There may actually be a method to Allred’s madness.

 

this is the commercial i saw during football.  just saw it again on the local Fox 4 news in Dallas.  Colin is gonna lose.  but i'll be damned that he's gonna come closer than Beto.

 

[CTC2 2791]

4 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

I'm just going to tell you--if by some miracle Colin Allred got elected, we'd learn to hate him in pretty quick order.  There's no question he would become a Texas version of Joe Manchin.  Or worse--a fucking Kyrsten Sinema.

Don’t care. Hate Cruz. 

[CTC2 2791]

4 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

this is the commercial i saw during football.  just saw it again on the local Fox 4 news in Dallas.  Colin is gonna lose.  but i'll be damned that he's gonna come closer than Beto.

 

That’s exactly the kind of ad Beto should have been running. 

[Pancho 44687]

 

[Jive Turkey 12593]

First thing Allred should do is call Jeffrey Ross and see if he can hire him to send some Ted Cruz roast material. Nobody cares about policies.  People won’t talk about that the next day.  But some solid roast material would go viral.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13507]

Pleasantly surprised that Cruz agreed to an debate on a Tuesday night. I would have figured that he would follow Abbott's lead in going with Friday night debates so no one watches. 

But then again Cruz surprises in that he will put himself out there even when he knows its not his audience. Like when he played Jimmy Kimmel in basketball.

[chainsaw 9851]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

 

Where's it airing

[C-Man 27183]

12 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

this is the commercial i saw during football.  just saw it again on the local Fox 4 news in Dallas.  Colin is gonna lose.  but i'll be damned that he's gonna come closer than Beto.

 

Beto was in the wrong place at the wrong time. If you could insert Beto into this senate race, pretending that his previous senate and gubernatorial bids didn't happen, I think he'd be doing as well or better than Allred. (Oh, you'd probably have to have Superman spin the Earth backwards so you could go back and tell Beto not to say "we're going to take your guns" in the aftermath of Uvalde. That quote, even though it was powerful and 100% the right thing to say, will haunt him politically for many, many years to come.)

[kevwun 15758]

Beto ended his political career with one sentence when he got caught up in a moment.  Nothing he does after that will matter in Texas.  I don't think Beto can run a campaign like this because he would have to be invisible and it's too late for him to try it. That's Allred's whole strategy, keep your mouth shut and don't be Ted Cruz.

Edited September 20 by kevwun

[The Dog 44017]

2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Beto was in the wrong place at the wrong time. If you could insert Beto into this senate race, pretending that his previous senate and gubernatorial bids didn't happen, I think he'd be doing as well or better than Allred. (Oh, you'd probably have to have Superman spin the Earth backwards so you could go back and tell Beto not to say "we're going to take your guns" in the aftermath of Uvalde. That quote, even though it was powerful and 100% the right thing to say, will haunt him politically for many, many years to come.)

He also had some votes while being the rep from El Paso that were problematic for a statewide race and Cruz was able to call him out on them. When I saw those I knew he had no shot. Just too far to the left for Texas then and even now.

I don't remember the exact details but when I saw his record I was like "yeah, that's going to be a problem."

[Pato del Muerto 52484]

 

Give people reason to believe, and it will motivate them to vote.  Might also want to broadcast the voter registration deadline in Texas for this election. 30 days I believe. 

[Js1 85260]

43 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Beto was in the wrong place at the wrong time. If you could insert Beto into this senate race, pretending that his previous senate and gubernatorial bids didn't happen, I think he'd be doing as well or better than Allred. (Oh, you'd probably have to have Superman spin the Earth backwards so you could go back and tell Beto not to say "we're going to take your guns" in the aftermath of Uvalde. That quote, even though it was powerful and 100% the right thing to say, will haunt him politically for many, many years to come.)

I’d also tell him not to run a vanity campaign for president and say he was born for it or whatever. Should have kept his head down, gone the Abrams route of doing nothing but registering voters and taking potshots at Cruz and running in 2024 again 

[Pato del Muerto 52484]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

 

And to my previous post, note that this is occurring after the registration deadline.  No doubt Ted would not consider any date previous. 

[C-Man 27183]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I’d also tell him not to run a vanity campaign for president and say he was born for it or whatever. Should have kept his head down, gone the Abrams route of doing nothing but registering voters and taking potshots at Cruz and running in 2024 again 

Can't disagree. I have to admit I have an unhealthy affinity for all things Beto and I think he's a perfect fit for Texas, either as senator or governor.

Alas, we can't get our collective shit together enough to make him electable.

[chainsaw 9851]

12 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Can't disagree. I have to admit I have an unhealthy affinity for all things Beto and I think he's a perfect fit for Texas, either as senator or governor.

Alas, we can't get our collective shit together enough to make him electable.

His 254 County strategy was great, but maybe a different strategy gets the candidate over the hurdle.

[MinerProphet 71]

31 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I’d also tell him not to run a vanity campaign for president and say he was born for it or whatever. Should have kept his head down, gone the Abrams route of doing nothing but registering voters and taking potshots at Cruz and running in 2024 again 

Yep. The vanity fair piece, looking too small for the moment on Ellen, “I was born for this”, etc.

[Pam Cummings 9639]

3 hours ago, The Dog said:

He also had some votes while being the rep from El Paso that were problematic for a statewide race and Cruz was able to call him out on them. When I saw those I knew he had no shot. Just too far to the left for Texas then and even now.

I don't remember the exact details but when I saw his record I was like "yeah, that's going to be a problem."

Beto is doing a good job of keeping out of the way and going on his voter registration campaigns. I feel like he has made sure to not make it to where people associate him and Allred as being same/same. He is a good dude.

Edited September 20 by Pam Cummings

[Jive Turkey 12593]

This is a good ad.

 

[Sawbonz 27527]

On 9/19/2024 at 8:08 PM, Brisketexan said:

This is Texas. 11% of votes are still outstanding in that poll. They’ll come home to Cruz at a 60-40 pace.

The Dems need to get the vote out in Harris County.

[GenXer 2850]

1 hour ago, Jive Turkey said:

This is a good ad.

 

I’ve seen this ad several times today while watching college football.

I wish the docs went a bit further and said they’re considering relocating to a state where they can do their job legally.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20390]

[royiv 9244]

1 minute ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Why isn’t Allred doing any campaigning?

[Covri 6244]

 

[atomheartbevo 89619]

Saw a YouTube ad this morning where Colin said he was the Democrat running against Ted Cruz, and the poll he popped up on the screen showed Cruz with (R) and Allred with (D).

He wouldn't do that unless he or whoever is managing his campaign decided it was the right time to start moving that way.

[aggie08 21481]

22 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

[Horn Dog 9815]

3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Saw a YouTube ad this morning where Colin said he was the Democrat running against Ted Cruz, and the poll he popped up on the screen showed Cruz with (R) and Allred with (D).

He wouldn't do that unless he or whoever is managing his campaign decided it was the right time to start moving that way.

[Js1 85260]

3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Saw a YouTube ad this morning where Colin said he was the Democrat running against Ted Cruz

Democrats:

[RPM 26315]

3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Saw a YouTube ad this morning where Colin said he was the Democrat running against Ted Cruz, and the poll he popped up on the screen showed Cruz with (R) and Allred with (D).

He wouldn't do that unless he or whoever is managing his campaign decided it was the right time to start moving that way.

If you look close (if it's the tied at 47% poll) that was from last March. That ad has been running for months online.

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

Heard some Allred - Spanish radio commercials this week. Also some I'm the first black man running for Senator of Texas ads on hip hop stations. 

[Hornius Emeritus 12449]

On 9/19/2024 at 5:26 PM, Ghost of LL said:

I'm just going to tell you--if by some miracle Colin Allred got elected, we'd learn to hate him in pretty quick order.  There's no question he would become a Texas version of Joe Manchin.  Or worse--a fucking Kyrsten Sinema.

He would have to become Joe Manchin in order to be reelected again. Texas will penalize him if he's perceived as too liberal. That's The balancing act he'll have to navigate.

[The Original Greaser Bob 2819]

I'll have an Allred sign in my yard and I hope he wins, but the Rs are all going to come back into the fold on voting day.

 

 

[The Original Greaser Bob 2819]

The absolute worst Allred would be would be an empty suit like Cornyn.  

If he even puts a little work in he'll do fine.

 

Edited September 26 by The Original Greaser Bob

[Pods 7551]

Has to be able to make a better brisket. 

Edited November 6 by Pods

[Biff Tannen 45661]

On 9/24/2024 at 4:32 PM, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

This same exact shit happened with Beto. I’m not holding my breath. 

[huge 3793]

Yall underestimate the disdain for Toad Cruz among most everyone.

I know a million Rs and they all hate him.  I think some will vote for CA just to get rid of Cruz and then vote whatever (non-toad) R shows up next ballot.

[fuggled 576]

24 minutes ago, huge said:

Yall underestimate the disdain for Toad Cruz among most everyone.

I know a million Rs and they all hate him.  I think some will vote for CA just to get rid of Cruz and then vote whatever (non-toad) R shows up next ballot.

Kinda surprised we haven't seen anyone put out "Texas two step" ads pushing this idea yet.  Step 1, kick Cruz to the curb in 2024.  Step 2, elect a real Texan in 2030.

[The Dog 44017]

Either they are giving up on Tester, think Allred has a shot, or they have "fuck you money" and can do whatever they want.

IMHO a combination of all three.

[brakeman 28350]

 

[royiv 9244]

2 hours ago, The Dog said:

Either they are giving up on Tester, think Allred has a shot, or they have "fuck you money" and can do whatever they want.

IMHO a combination of all three.

I think it’s combination of the latter two. You can still go all out for Tester. Montana media is pennies on the dollar compared to what it takes to blanket the airwaves in Texas. 

[Satchel 6925]

3 hours ago, The Dog said:

Either they are giving up on Tester, think Allred has a shot, or they have "fuck you money" and can do whatever they want.

IMHO a combination of all three.

Or they’re going big and not planning to go home. Why not at least try to get a cushion in the Senate that might allow you to “reform” the Supreme Court?