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1 hour ago, Fud said:

Brugler has Trey Moore as the #6 and Ethan Burke as the #12 draft-eligible underclass edge prospect, and Sorrell as his #11 senior 

Hoping Burke takes a big step this year. Need big pasty to be an absolute animal in the backfield this season.  

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Am I the only one that remembers Barron trying to cover receivers last season? It was not his strong suit. I sincerely doubt he will be playing corner regularly. 

That being said, he was amazing at covering screens and picking off bad throws to the flats. He's one of our best DBs against the run as well. At this point, he's probably our best over-all DB period (although Manny and Williams have higher upside). 

It seems more likely that they're working him at CB as part of an effort to put our best 11 on the field at a give time. If down and distance suggest that he's not going to have to cover a real route, then why not move him to corner and bring in the next best guy at star?

reports were he was banged up all year, but I agree. He is such an instinctive player and that is a huge part of playing Nickel. Feel like you lose that moving him to corner. That is not something you can always see in practice. The only real weakness on paper in the secondary is the corer spot opposite of Muhammad, perhaps they are just experimenting to see if they can build some depth. I tend to think this is more about figuring out rotations in the secondary and which players work well together. There were reports that Taffee and McDonald came out with the 1st team in one of the practices

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20 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

reports were he was banged up all year, but I agree. He is such an instinctive player and that is a huge part of playing Nickel. Feel like you lose that moving him to corner. That is not something you can always see in practice. The only real weakness on paper in the secondary is the corer spot opposite of Muhammad, perhaps they are just experimenting to see if they can build some depth. I tend to think this is more about figuring out rotations in the secondary and which players work well together. There were reports that Taffee and McDonald came out with the 1st team in one of the practices

or Gideon/Joseph be like:

 

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Barron doesn't need reps at nickel.  I imagine they are getting Guilbeau as many reps as he will likely rotate in heavily.  If Barron can play all 3 positions on the back end, I imagine they will sub in Guilbeau a lot if Barron is rotating around the back end if they are subbing out any of the CBs or safeties.  They also had Jelani McDonald working with the 1st team... so yeah... not taking the depth chart too seriously right now.  I imagine it is very likely going to be:

Nickel:  Barron/Guilbeau
CB:  Muhammad, Holmes
S:  Mukuba, Williams
You forget Taffee/ducks
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On 8/5/2024 at 10:41 AM, BurntOrange&White said:

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I'm headed over to the University this morning for the media window that begins as 9am.

Here's a quick what-we-learned from week one:

- Silas Bolden will have a significant role in 2024. Expect Bolden to win the punt returners job and expect him to find a way into the rotation as a receiver. "Fearless" has been the way some have described the diminutive transfer receiver from Oregon State.

- Ryan Wingo is better than advertised. He has continued his ascent and did not hit the freshman wall over the summer.

- Trey Moore is making lots of plays. But he doesn't look like he should. He is clearly the smallest of the Texas edge players.

- Texas is trying to manage the secondary to get their best 11 on the field. That means Jaylan Guilbeau has seen the majority of starting action at nickel with Jahdae Barron potentially filling a role opposite Manny Muhammad at one cornerback spot.

- This has the makings of a really good transfer class. If I'm guessing who would be drafted first among the transfers, I'd maybe pick Amari Niblack at this point over Isaiah Bond. Niblack has looked like a major weapon early in camp.

- The Texas WR room has the most depth I've ever witnessed during my time covering or following the Longhorns.

- The Texas QB room is ridiculously talented. Go back ~10 years and my guess is Trey Owens would be pushing to start for Texas just like David Ash did. Yet now he's comfortably third string and can bide his time.

- Gavin Holmes is not going to give up the starting corner spot to Jay'Vion Cole willingly. Holmes put in some real work this off-season and it shows.

- Anthony Hill appears to be taking the next step as a leader and true middle linebacker. Multiple coaches are high on him and think he has not only the physical skills but the mental aptitude to pull off leading a defense.

- Derrick Williams is poised for a big season. In fact, the entire Texas sophomore class looks like it could be one for the ages. They are that talented across the board.

More after today's practice.

Hope everyone has a good week!

 

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11 minutes ago, RockyMountainHighHorn said:

If Derrick Williams is poised for a breakout year than why is taafe getting first team reps? Don’t get it. 

Taafe and Williams were on the field together a lot last year. And early camp always has a lot of rotation. (And the coaches like him more than we do for better or worse).

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19 minutes ago, RockyMountainHighHorn said:

If Derrick Williams is poised for a breakout year than why is taafe getting first team reps? Don’t get it. 

You guys sure put way too much stock into one practive early in fall camp. I bet we see Williams, Barron, and Mukuba walk out onto the field on August 31st for the 1st defensive series and every 1st series of the season after that barring injury.

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I thought he posted it every year.....nothing wrong with that, given the attention span of the average Surly poster....

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Tbf it’s OB so 80% chance it’s bullshit

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Update 7:09 p.m

As others have reported the name, OnTexasFootball can confirm the player in question in regards to the possible injury situation is RB CJ Baxter.

Baxter was spotted on crutches after practice and has been taken for an MRI this evening.

I urge readers to not jump to conclusion until the facts of the matter are confirmed.  

 

 

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Let's get some practice reports up in here, shall we?

Joe Cook: Football Quick notes from Texas' Tuesday practice

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Texas was in full pads on Tuesday for the first time in preseason training camp. While there was some pad-popping action during the media viewing window, there wasn’t a whole lot as far as action that indicated a look at the depth chart or anything like that.
 

In fact, the media saw the typical ball security drill that features QBs throwing to various skill position players and defenders trying to rip the ball out of their hands. WRs battled DBs. LBs went to work against RBs. EDGEs and TEs were in the same section. That lasted for about a period.

The entire team save for QBs, OLs, and DTs then went into a drill where they tackled a pad to the ground. This is the first day of full pads and Steve Sarkisian was bouncing around the ball security and tackling drills emphasizing physicality. Remember, he said there would be one to-the-ground contact period today during his Monday post-practice availability.

Michael Kern and Charlie Feris traded punts with (in no particular order) Johntay Cook, Isaiah Bond, DeAndre Moore, Jaydon Blue, and Matthew Golden fielding their kicks. Silas Bolden probably rotated back there but I didn’t put my own eyes on it. There was one shank but I couldn’t tell whose foot it came off of. Chris Jackson was back there helping the returners with the fundamentals of the position.

One light-hearted note: Michael Huff, as he always is, was at practice and there were a few occasions where the punters were sending kicks down the field. Bert Auburn and Will Stone were fielding those punts and Huff had his fair share of fun with Stone and Auburn.

 

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Horns247: Texas football practice observations: Ryan Wingo making noise, battle at safety, TE shakeup brewing and more

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AUSTIN, Texas — It's hard to recall how every wide receiver Texas has recruited since Roy Williams began his legendary career in 2000 looked when they arrived on the Forty Acres.

That being said, Ryan Wingo is in the group of wideouts who've joined the program since then and were physically mature enough to compete as a true freshman.

An argument can be made that he's the most gifted true freshman wide receiver Texas has landed since reeling in Williams from Odessa Permian 24 years ago.

The most impressive thing the 6-foot-2-inch, 210-pound Wingo has done as of Tuesday's practice (the sixth for the Longhorns since camp started last Wednesday) is forcing the hand of Steve Sarkisian to expand the wide receiver rotation. That's not official yet, but watching Wingo on the practice field makes it feel like a foregone conclusion.

Instead of thinking about how Sarkisian and Chris Jackson are going to find snaps for Wingo, the question the coaches should be discussing among themselves is this:


How can you justify keeping Wingo off the field?

Texas recruited Silas Bolden, Isaiah Bond and Matthew Golden out of the NCAA transfer portal to come in and make an impact. Johntay Cook and DeAndre Moore Jr. played behind three picks in the 2024 NFL Draft last season and have worked with the first-team offense alongside Bond in camp.

It speaks volumes that Wingo, as of Monday, was running with the No. 2 offense along with Bolden and Golden as the primary weapons for Arch Manning. A five-star prospect and the No. 32 overall recruit in the Top247 for 2024, Wingo had a coming-out party in the spring game (four receptions for 81 yards and two touchdowns) and when watching him take part in a 2-on-1 drill on Monday and Tuesday (in the drill, the receiver starts with the back to two defenders, catches the ball and tries to get by the two tacklers) and powering through the Longhorn defensive backs trying to bring him down, he's not slowing down any time soon.

Sarkisian mentioned after Monday's practice that Wingo is limited to playing outside, presumably because he lacks experience. But of the top group of wide receivers, Cook and Moore have worked in the slot in Sarkisian's offense and the three transfers have spent time inside under Sarkisian and slot snaps at their previous stops.

That should put a lot of versatile pieces around Wingo. Enough that no matter the combination of wide receivers he's on the field with, and no matter if Sarkisian wants to operate out of 11 (one running back and one tight end) or 10 (one running back and no tight ends) personnel, he can be in the game in a position to succeed.

Tuesday's practice viewing window for the media lasted roughly 15 minutes. It was mostly watching the team stretch and go through special teams.

Nevertheless, it only takes watching one snap to know that Wingo is special, special enough to warrant playing time among an experienced, productive group of wide receivers.
'What do you do with Moore?'

While watching the defensive line go through individual drills on Tuesday, a media colleague asked a simple question regarding the EDGE group:

What do you do with (Trey) Moore?

Everybody (the coaches included) should know a lot more about the UTSA transfer after Saturday's scrimmage and the all-important second camp scrimmage, which is scheduled for Aug. 17.

The 6-foot-3-inch, 245-pound Moore has worked ahead of Ethan Burke when the media has been able to see the No. 1 defense together through the six practices of camp. While nobody should consider that to be set in stone, it's looking like Texas — at worst — has three starting-caliber edge defenders.

Could the combination of Burke, Moore and Barryn Sorrell be one of the better edge rotations in the SEC?

It's possible.

Sorrell has developed into an NFL prospect, Burke has recovered from the knee injury that hampered him throughout last season and Moore is coming off of a season in which he was named AAC Defensive Player of the Year (17.5 tackles for loss and a school-record 14 sacks for the Roadrunners).

The coaches know what they've got with Sorrell and Burke, so much like Jaylon Guilbeau working ahead of Jahdae Barron at STAR (nickel), camp practices are an opportunity for Moore to show his impact as a pass rusher can translate from the Group of Five level to the SEC.

What should the Longhorns do with Moore? They should plan on him getting more than the 284 snaps Justice Finkley played as the No. 3 EDGE last season, but they should hope he continues to trend in the right direction leading up to the season opener and becomes as big of a part of the defensive game plan as Burke and Sorrell.

Chip Brown: A tight end shakeup brewing?

I'll admit, I had an I'll-believe-it-when-I-see-it approach to the possibility of senior tight end Juan Davis actually getting playing time in his fourth season at Texas.

But after taking in bits and pieces of fall camp practices for a week, and after talking to team sources, I'm starting to believe it.

(Quick side note: I'm no carnival barker capable of guessing people's weight, but it looked to me in practice Tuesday that 6-foot-4-inch Alabama junior transfer Amari Niblack, whose weight increased from 231 to 245 this offseason, might be struggling to hold that 245 pounds after a week of workouts in 100-degree heat. Davis is listed at 6 feet 4 inches and 235 pounds. After looking at them side-by-side, they almost look like identical twins in terms of their weight.)

But let's get back to Juan Davis.

A quote from special teams coordinator Jeff Banks on Davis really resonated with me: "He's a lot more physical in the run game than you would think by looking at his body type. He will knock the crap out of you coming through the 'A' gap on counter plays."

On Monday, Steve Sarkisian was asked about the tight end room and he glowed about senior Gunnar Helm as a complete player in terms of blocking and catching; he said Niblack has had his best practices at Texas the last few days; and then said the "biggest surprise" has been Davis.

"Juan has probably been the biggest surprise and most pleasant surprise," Sarkisian said. "Everybody's journey and path is different from a developmental standpoint. Everyone forgets he [Davis] came in with JT [Sanders] and Gunnar [Helm], and he had a great spring and a good summer. And he's gonna be a guy that we're gonna count on this fall. He's earned it. He's earned that so far. And as long as he continues on the trajectory he's on, he's gonna play a fair amount as well. So we're fortunate we've got three veteran guys [Helm, Niblack and Davis] with some young players that we think have bright futures as well."

The two young tight ends that have stood out the most so far in camp are 6-foot-7-inch, 255-pound redshirt freshman Spencer Shannon and 6-foot-4-inch, 250-pound true freshman Jordan Washington. Washington, who has the size to be a solid in-line blocker, has already made some highlight catches and is seen among team sources as a sure-fire, rising star.

But as far as Davis, a special teams stalwart at Texas the last three seasons, I'm starting to believe he'll be in the rotation on offense, and kudos to Davis for staying focused on what it takes to get on the field.

A punting update

During the media viewing window of Tuesday's sixth fall camp practice — and first in full pads — we got another good look at punters Michael Kern, Charlie Feris and Ian Ratliff.

Feris, a junior walk-on from Cypress Ranch, probably had the most consistency on Tuesday in terms of hang time and distance; followed by Kern, the scholarship freshman from St. Thomas Aquinas in Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.; and then Ratliff, a sophomore walk-on from Humble Atascosita.

Eric Henry: Safety spots up for grabs

As the conclusion of the second week of fall camp draws near, one of the more intriguing position battles is shaping up at safety.

During the five windows of practice made available to media, veteran Michael Taaffe and rising sophomore Derek Williams Jr. have seen the majority of the first-team reps in the back end. Clemson transfer Andrew Mukuba, sophomore Jelani McDonald and true freshman Xavier Filsaime have filled in the rest of the rotation.

In Tuesday's 11-on-11 thud tempo period (no tackling to the ground since the players were in shells), Taaffe was vocal in the secondary, flying in to make a would-be tackle on Johntay Cook. Taaffe has sported a green jersey throughout camp as he's worn a cast over his left wrist and forearm.

Williams received praise from position coach Blake Gideon during Tuesday's session for his effort in pursuit and has been steady in position drills throughout camp.

During the 11-on-11 period, Williams was aggressive in the run fit during a zone run play to back Jaydon Blue, filling the gap for what would have been a stop.

Mukuba hasn't seen action with the first set of safeties during the viewing windows. That being said, there's no reason to believe that the transfer won't be a significant part of the rotation come Aug. 31.

After playing five players at safety last season, this year's group looks to be a combination of the trio of Williams, Mukuba and Taaffe. Even though McDonald was with the first-team defense alongside Taaffe during Monday's media window, I still think it'll be primarily a three-man mix at safety.

 

Alex Dunlap: A Few Notes from Tuesday's Practice ...
 

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- It was the first full-pads practice, but the media window was very short so we did not get to see to much of them popping today, still there are a few takeaways:

- Michael Taaffe is still in a green no-contact jersey.

- Jaylon Guilbeau broke down the team coming out of the stretch period. Others who have done this when the media is present have been Quinn Ewers, Kelvin Banks and Anthony Hill, so that should give you an idea of how the staff views Guilbeau.

- There were some definite things happening with the wide receivers in the small bit of team looks we were able to get a quick eye on:

- The first personnel grouping up was Matthew Golden and Silas Bolden on the outside with Isaiah Bond in the slot. Bond played three snaps in the slot in the spring game, but has predominantly been an outside receiver at Texas in all observed settings. It should be noted that Bond played 58.6% of his snaps in the slot last year at Alabama. Golden has been in the slot a lot through camp himself, so it was interesting (and new) to see this arrangement and also to see Silas Bolden as one of the first three in there for a team-look period.

- In 12 personnel the receivers were Golden and Bolden with Helm and Davis at the two tight ends.

- In 11 personnel, the receivers were as mentioned above to start with Helm as the one tight end. As usual, the running backs CJ Baxter and Jaydon Blue appear to be a full-fledged committee working in with the starters.

- The little quick hitches to Isaiah Bond out of the slot on option routes are going to be fun for everyone except the conflicted player on RPO advantage throws. It's enough of a conflict to have to go against Bond when he has a two-way go on you on an option route inside.

- I can't tell if the wide receiver pecking order simply isn't set yet or if it is and they are just working different groupings with different guys moving around to see how the two/three of them interact. The bottom line is that it really does look like Bond, Cook, Moore, Wingo, Golden and Bolden are all going to play a good bit, which likely means more 11 personnel than last season to allow for three WR sets and probably capping the leading snap-earners at something like 60% of snaps as opposed to the 80% we've seen in recent years from a guy like Xavier Worthy in order to have enough to go around. We'll keep an eye on these rotations for sure, but there really are starting to be more and more permutations of how these guys can be deployed in units as players add confirmed versatility in practice to play inside or out.

- Alex January worked with the second unit on defense during two-minute work yesterday, but seemed to be with the 3rd group on Wednesday at defensive tackle, not nose, and next to Sydir Mitchell who may be working his way up the pecking order a little bit after starting camp pretty consistently with the fourth-team guys. If Mitchell can put it all together, he brings an element of size to the DL that is unmatched on the current roster.

- Justice Finkley will probably have a hard time holding off Colin Simmons all camp to back up Trey Moore, but it appears Simmons hasn't made the jump yet to the second group. I think when that happens, it will be a moment Simmons doesn't look back from.

- Similarly on the offensive line, second-team RT Andre Cojoe continues to hold off a stud freshman on his own heels in Brandon Baker based on the media windows available to the media. I can't remember a fall camp that didn't involve a ton of OL tinkering in recent years (even among the starters), so to see that Texas basically has three groups that are just the same every day and only feature scholarship guys is encouraging.

- I'm no punting guru (I have no idea what to look for in a punter) but I think the punters look fine. Freshman Michael Kern consistently looks serviceable enough to me. One of the others, No.49 Ian Ratliff has a live leg for sure but he looked like he shanked one to start. Of all the punts I saw though, it looked like a few that he boomed after that traveled the farthest of all.

 

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