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Auburn traded in a Cadillac for an Escort. 

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2 minutes ago, Liquor and Poker said:

Why leave your alma mater where you’re a hero twice over to go to East Lansing?  The conference insecurity?

Conference insecurity and money are pretty good reasons.  Very little chance he can sustain the current success at Oregon State in the Mountain West/insert 2nd tier conference here.  Less television money, even harder to recruit, might as well jump now.

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17 hours ago, PNWhornsfan said:

Lots of talk that Jonathan Smith will be announced as Michigan State's new coach shortly (likely after tonight's game).

Oregon was showing the Michigan State game up on the screen inside of Autzen Stadium during pre-game warmups to troll the Beavers. 

 

College football is just the best.

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8 minutes ago, mdmost said:

It's not hard. Better paycheck, conference stability. You'll be at the Oregon State of the Big 10. Never a threat to win it all, always under the shadow of big brother. 

MSU has always struck me as a rough place to coach.  Unrealistic expectations, shit weather, mediocre facilities.  Fanbase perpetually frustrated and unsatisfied.  In contrast, Oregon State might let him stay for a decade no matter the results because of who he is and because he stuck by them.  
 

But I get that the conference thing is a huge problem. Beaverland looks like a pretty dead-end job going forward.  It just seems line a pretty cushy dead end job for him.  

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Just now, Liquor and Poker said:

MSU has always struck me as a rough place to coach.  Unrealistic expectations, shit weather, mediocre facilities.  Fanbase perpetually frustrated and unsatisfied.  In contrast, Oregon State might let him stay for a decade no matter the results because of who he is and because he stuck by them.  
 

But I get that the conference thing is a huge problem. Beaverland looks like a pretty dead-end job going forward.  It just seems line a pretty cushy dead end job for him.  

It's Matt Campbell all over again. Take the money while you can get it unless money doesn't interest you. Personally, I hate that Oregon St and Washington St got left behind. 

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17 minutes ago, mdmost said:

You'll be at the Oregon State of the Big 10. Never a threat to win it all, always under the shadow of big brother. 

Under the shadow of big brother for sure, but nowhere close to the Oregon State of the B1G.  Massive upgrade for him.

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18 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Will Dillon Gabriel follow Lebby to Miss State if Lebby gets that head coaching job??? 🙄

 

Wouldn’t be surprised. Not sure he wants to play another year or not. His NFL prospects are microscopic so it just depends. I believe he’d lose a QB competition with an unleashed Arnold. 

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12 hours ago, Constant said:

Lebby to Miss St looking all but done at this point. 

Is anyone else looking at this hire and saying to themselves “oh, man, that isn’t going to work”? I’m stunned that this rape-enabling idiot is viewed as HC material. But, hey, maybe that’s the move - open a rape factory in Starkville and no one will notice or give a shit. Bring Art Briles in as a consultant to help install it. 

26 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Traylor should be the favorite at baylor if Aranda gets fired...  Jeff will be able to recruit well and get more talent on that team.  

Traylor going to Baylor and then dominating the conference wouldn’t stun me. He’s not super young so that could be his last move if he makes it work. 

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9 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Is anyone else looking at this hire and saying to themselves “oh, man, that isn’t going to work”? I’m stunned that this rape-enabling idiot is viewed as HC material. But, hey, maybe that’s the move - open a rape factory in Starkville and no one will notice or give a shit. Bring Art Briles in as a consultant to help install it. 

Traylor going to Baylor and then dominating the conference wouldn’t stun me. He’s not super young so that could be his last move if he makes it work. 

Let me be clear. Miss State gets a big F- for hiring an overall fuckface and someone within six degrees of familial relationship with Art fucking Briles.  Also his actual coaching acumen…who knows. 
 

But I like the IDEA behind the hire. You can’t just hire “tough defensive coach” there and line up to run the ball and win in the trenches. Miss State will never have the talent to do that.
 

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On 11/24/2023 at 7:22 PM, PNWhornsfan said:

Lots of talk that Jonathan Smith will be announced as Michigan State's new coach shortly (likely after tonight's game).

Oregon was showing the Michigan State game up on the screen inside of Autzen Stadium during pre-game warmups to troll the Beavers. 

 


That was pretty cold-blooded. I approve heartily.

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8 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I'd like to think we had a hand in this. Hope you enjoyed all the beers, Holgo

 

 

 

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As part of the richest contract in school history, Holgorsen is owed 100% of his salary in 2024 ($4.4 million) and 2025 ($4.5 million) and 60% in 2026 ($2.76 million) and 2027 ($2.820 million). UH is not required to pay a lump sum to Holgorsen, which means the school will make monthly payments over the final four years. 

 

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As part of the richest contract in school history, Holgorsen is owed 100% of his salary in 2024 ($4.4 million) and 2025 ($4.5 million) and 60% in 2026 ($2.76 million) and 2027 ($2.820 million). UH is not required to pay a lump sum to Holgorsen, which means the school will make monthly payments over the final four years. 

Lulz, they fired their coach on layaway

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2 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Traylor should be the favorite at baylor if Aranda gets fired...  Jeff will be able to recruit well and get more talent on that team.  

I think the dumb shits at Baylor guaranteed Aranda somewhere north of $30 million.  He will probably be "advised" and "helped" to improve in the offseason.  Basically staff thrown under the bus. 

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The Athletic's Houston writeup lists Jeff Banks as a name to watch. No thanks.

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Based on conversations with industry sources, these are some names to keep an eye on.

UTSA head coach Jeff Traylor is expected to be a top candidate. Late last season, there were rumors going around that UH was close to firing Holgorsen and hiring Traylor. It wasn’t the case, but Traylor’s stock has only gone up since then. A legendary Texas high school coach at Gilmer, Traylor is 38-14 at UTSA, with his Roadrunners winning the last two Conference USA titles and going 7-1 in AAC play this year. He’s beloved throughout the state, he knows the machinations and he wins. It checks every box. But will someone else hire him first?

Tulane head coach Willie Fritz nearly took the Georgia Tech job last year amid an AAC championship and Cotton Bowl-winning season but stuck with the Green Wave. He has followed up last year’s 12-2 season with an 11-1 start this season, Tulane’s two best records in the last 25 years. But the athletic director who hired him, Troy Dannen, recently left for Washington, and quarterback Michael Pratt may be gone soon. The 63-year-old Fritz has indicated that this might be his last job, but the opportunity to coach at the Power 5 level is the one thing missing on his resume. He has won everywhere from junior college to Division II, FCS and the Group of 5 — and he knows the area. Fritz coached at Sam Houston State three different times, including a 40-15 record as head coach from 2010 through 2013.

Texas State head coach G.J. Kinne has had a quick rise. The 34-year-old, who played for Traylor in high school, is 18-7 as a head coach. He went 12-2 at Incarnate Word in San Antonio last year and is taking Texas State to its first bowl game this year. He’s a smart offensive mind who successfully navigated the transfer portal to rebuild Texas State’s roster in one year. How would he fare at a Texas job that has the bells and whistles?

Texas tight ends/assistant head coach Jeff Banks knows the state extremely well and has been one of the best recruiters in the country. Banks has been at Texas since 2021 and previously coached at Alabama (2018-20), Texas A&M (2013-17) and UTEP (2004-12). Among Banks’ notable recent recruits was Jalen Milroe, the Alabama quarterback from Katy, Texas, which is just outside Houston.

Former TCU head coach Gary Patterson has been open about wanting to get back into college football. Could Houston be an option? Patterson was a legend at TCU, where he has a statue after compiling a 181-79 record, including seven top-10 finishes. He also regularly recruited the third-best classes in the Big 12 behind Texas and Oklahoma. But he posted a losing record in two of his last three seasons and wasn’t too interested in the NIL and transfer portal world. If he can show he’s ready to adapt to the times, perhaps he gets a look.

Colorado head coach Deion Sanders isn’t expected to be a candidate for Texas A&M, but a job like Houston might be a good fit, and it would fit billionaire board chair Tilman Fertitta to take a swing. The word is that one reason Sanders wanted Colorado to rejoin the Big 12 was to get back into Texas for recruiting. Sanders, who still lives in Texas when he’s not coaching, improved Colorado to 4-8 this year, though the Buffs lost eight of their last nine games.

Liberty head coach Jamey Chadwell has won everywhere he’s been. He’s 43-6 over the last four seasons, with three seasons of at least 10 wins, including a 12-0 regular season at Liberty this year. His spread option offense turned Grayson McCall into one of the best quarterbacks in the country at Coastal Carolina, setting an FBS record for pass efficiency in 2021. Liberty quarterback Kaidon Salter is third nationally in pass efficiency and has 39 total touchdowns with five interceptions. The 46-year-old Tennessee native also seems destined for a bigger job, but his lack of Power 5 coaching experience has hurt his candidacy for other jobs.

Oregon offensive coordinator Will Stein spent the previous eight years in Texas before going to Oregon this year. He’s a Broyles Award nominee for the nation’s top assistant coach, and quarterback Bo Nix is among the favorites for the Heisman Trophy, with 37 touchdown passes and just two interceptions. Before Oregon, Stein spent three years as a Texas quality control assistant, two years as a Lake Travis High School assistant and three years as a UTSA assistant. UTSA finished 14th nationally in scoring and went 11-3 with Stein as the offensive coordinator in 2022.

USC offensive coordinator Josh Henson is an Oklahoma native who spent 2019 through 2021 as Texas A&M’s offensive line coach before going to USC. Behind Henson’s offensive line, USC finished 26th in yards per carry last year and sits 32nd this year. He also served as Missouri’s offensive coordinator from 2013 through 2015.

Former Virginia Tech and Memphis head coach Justin Fuente was in the mix for the UAB head coaching job last year and was at Indiana as an analyst this season. Fuente spent 2012 through 2015 at Memphis and turned it from one of the worst rosters in the country to 19 wins over his last two seasons. He was fired at Virginia Tech amid a 5-5 start in his fifth season, but he posted a 43-31 record overall.

Florida State offensive coordinator Alex Atkins continues to rise and has played an integral role in FSU’s turnaround and 12-0 start this season. Atkins inherited one of the worst offensive lines in the Power 5 at FSU and turned it into a very good group, and he added coordinator duties in 2022. Before FSU, he was Charlotte’s offensive coordinator in 2019, the only bowl season in program history.

UNLV head coach Barry Odom has taken the Rebels to 9-3 in his first season, their second bowl game since 2001 and their first Mountain West Championship Game appearance ever. The Oklahoma native also went 25-25 as Missouri’s head coach from 2016 through 2019, with three bowl-eligible seasons. Odom has been in the mix for a few jobs in this cycle.

 

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