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Davidson has very high academic standards like Rice. The 5 years before hiring Abell, Davidson went 7-43. Abell went 47-28 over 7 years. He runs a modified triple option on offense. They led FCS in rushing the last 4 years. From what I've seen of Abell, I'd expect him to largely bring his staff over from Davidson.

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43 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

That is a fucking meh hire if ive ever seen one

 

Rice keeps making these “i know something you dont/im the smartest guy in the room” hires for some dumb reason

It's probably one of the toughest jobs in the FBS. People with options are exactly jumping at the chance to go there. Army, Air Force, and Navy have shown running a triple option type offense can work.

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On 11/28/2024 at 9:58 PM, WBT said:

Scott Abell who is fresh off of dropping one to the fighting Homer Drews last Saturday

https://www.instagram.com/p/DCwoY4Kx5XK/

 

That pooch punt was the dumbest idea I've ever seen and he should have probably been fired by Davidson for it, instead gets a most likely sizable raise by going to Rice

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After UCF turned the ball over four times in a 28-14 loss to Utah, Gus Malzahn saw the writing on the wall and jumped ship to become the offensive coordinator at Florida State. Mixing Malzahn's QB history with Florida State's run of awful QB play by anyone not named Jordan Travis really sets the stage for transfer Thomas Castellanos to lead the country with 106 interceptions next year in Tallahassee.

 

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Ryan Walters out at Purdue.  $9mm buyout.

1-11 this year.  0-9 in conference.  Lost 66-0 to Indiana yesterday.  I predicted around 50+ earlier in the year.
Other losses of note:
Notre Dame: 66-7 
Nebraska: 28-10 (had more penalty yards than offense yards mid of 4th)
Wisconsin: 52-6
Oregon: 35-0
tOSU: 45-0
PSU: 49-10

 

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2 hours ago, boilerhorn said:

Ryan Walters out at Purdue.  $9mm buyout.

1-11 this year.  0-9 in conference.  Lost 66-0 to Indiana yesterday.  I predicted around 50+ earlier in the year.
Other losses of note:
Notre Dame: 66-7 
Nebraska: 28-10 (had more penalty yards than offense yards mid of 4th)
Wisconsin: 52-6
Oregon: 35-0
tOSU: 45-0
PSU: 49-10

 

Purdue should drop its football program down to FCS. They are one of a handful of schools that should - they have no hope of ever being competitive in the Big 10 in the NIL era. They’re burning money pretending otherwise. 

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On 11/29/2024 at 4:04 PM, Schulz2.0 said:

It's probably one of the toughest jobs in the FBS. People with options are exactly jumping at the chance to go there. Army, Air Force, and Navy have shown running a triple option type offense can work.

Fuck it, that's probably the type of hire Rice should make. Arguably they should just drop football, but if they want to keep trying as the 2nd smallest school in FBS, they will be limited to  washed up retreads or up and comers. At least the up and comer might get you some  Cignetti type success for a couple of years. Run the triple option, I  dont hate it.

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30 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

Purdue should drop its football program down to FCS. They are one of a handful of schools that should - they have no hope of ever being competitive in the Big 10 in the NIL era. They’re burning money pretending otherwise. 

I disagree.  Purdue is one of the 20 or so athletic departments that do not take subsidies from the university.  In the past 35 years, they've had some uncompetitive eras (Akers, Colletto, Hazell, Walters) and some competitive eras (Tiller, Hope, Brohm).  Purdue was 8-6 in 2022 and 9-4 in 2021.  That includes wins over #2 Iowa, #3 Michigan State, and two more top-25 upsets - and that was not very long ago.

I attended both the UND and Nebraska games this year.  Both were sold out.  Northwestern also sold out.  The other home games were within 4k of capacity.  The support is there.  The product this year was bad - and they took a step toward fixing it today.

The right coaching staff (see Indiana) can turn around a perennial doormat rather quickly these days.  They lost Scourton (10 sacks in 2023) to aTm (6 tackles last night) and several other players to the likes of Aggy, Vandy, and MSU.  Deion Burks (top WR) left for OU.  To me that was a sign that Walters was in trouble: top players leaving.  It may be supporting your point of NIL, though, but we shall see.  A competent coaching staff gets at least 5 wins out of the roster there.  And a competent coaching staff also recruits better and builds a program.

 

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7 minutes ago, boilerhorn said:

I disagree.  Purdue is one of the 20 or so athletic departments that do not take subsidies from the university.  In the past 35 years, they've had some uncompetitive eras (Akers, Colletto, Hazell, Walters) and some competitive eras (Tiller, Hope, Brohm).  Purdue was 8-6 in 2022 and 9-4 in 2021.  That includes wins over #2 Iowa, #3 Michigan State, and two more top-25 upsets - and that was not very long ago.

I attended both the UND and Nebraska games this year.  Both were sold out.  Northwestern also sold out.  The other home games were within 4k of capacity.  The support is there.  The product this year was bad - and they took a step toward fixing it today.

The right coaching staff (see Indiana) can turn around a perennial doormat rather quickly these days.  They lost Scourton (10 sacks in 2023) to aTm (6 tackles last night) and several other players to the likes of Aggy, Vandy, and MSU.  Deion Burks (top WR) left for OU.  To me that was a sign that Walters was in trouble: top players leaving.  It may be supporting your point of NIL, though, but we shall see.  A competent coaching staff gets at least 5 wins out of the roster there.  And a competent coaching staff also recruits better and builds a program.

 

Valid and fair. I just tend to think a lot of schools would be better off not trying to compete against Oregon, OSU, Michigan, and even Penn State. 

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27 minutes ago, Leanderman said:

Jimbo to West Vaginia, comes cheap too as the gomers are still paying him as well.

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Wishing it into existence. I don’t think he’d give us many problems in Florida, but when WVU has been good they have recruited the state well. I could see a guy like Hilson visiting WVU late and Orangebloods posters pissing their pants. 

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1 minute ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Wishing it into existence. I don’t think he’d give us many problems in Florida, but when WVU has been good they have recruited the state well. I could see a guy like Hilson visiting WVU late and Orangebloods posters pissing their pants. 

We are not losing a recruit to wva

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2 hours ago, The Ace of Aces said:

Purdue should drop its football program down to FCS. They are one of a handful of schools that should - they have no hope of ever being competitive in the Big 10 in the NIL era. They’re burning money pretending otherwise. 

FBS should limit membership to 64 teams with four 16 team conferences.  There is zero reason for 130+ FBS schools.  

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If Jimbo went to WVU and got them into the playoffs in year 1, while aggy is still paying him like a top 5 coach....well that would be swell. 

I mean the odds are really, really low because he's a moron, but the universe does like to fuck with aggy.

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3 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Damn, kc keeler a good hire for temple

 

hes from penn, yes?

Delaware is where he played and last coached before Sam Houston.....they signed him to a 10 year deal then fired him the next year and put him in their HOF....prior to that it was Rowan for coaching  and before that Amherst.....he is from PA though

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6 minutes ago, ButtFumble said:

Delaware is where he played and last coached before Sam Houston.....they signed him to a 10 year deal then fired him the next year and put him in their HOF....prior to that it was Rowan for coaching  and before that Amherst.....he is from PA though

He also coached Joe Flacco at Delaware.

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7 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

surprised he didn't wait for a better job 

He interviewed twice at Tulane (on the down low) last year to replace Willie Fritz, who he replaced at Sam.  Some SHSU insiders I know thought he was gone then, because he seemed ready to move on from Huntsville.  I'm not surprised that he got offers after leading Sam to a bowl and a last second FG away from the CUSA championship game this year.  I just expected it to be a better landing spot than Temple.  But he gets to go home to Pennsylvania, I guess.  I agree with the idea that Sam has no real business being FBS and would probably still be rolling in FCS, but like all of the others, they're chasing those $$$.  Even with buys out and entry fees and such, they're pulling in a ton more money now than they were when they were playing for and winning championships in the FCS.

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4 hours ago, ButtFumble said:

I am pretty sure aggy had to pretty much cut two checks....one at termination and one not long after for the total amount left

According to NY times...

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In the short term, Texas A&M must write Fisher two checks in the span of four months. The first, due within 60 days of contract termination, would be for $19.3 million. The second, due within 120 days of termination, would be the first of eight annual payments for the rest of the contract: $7.2 million.

In total, the Aggies owe Fisher $26.6 million by March 11, 2024. It’s certainly not chump change, but it’s much more manageable than if the entirety of the contract were due up front. The rest will be paid out in annual installments of $7.2 million from 2025 through 2031, meaning the Aggies would basically pay two head coaches for the next eight years.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5056311/2023/11/12/buyout-jimbo-fisher-contract/

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