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2 minutes ago, demos said:

 

 


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Gundy could have done worse.

DC for Petrino 3 years at Louisville.
DC for Mullen 1 year at MSU
DC for Mullen all 4 years at Florida.  Was offered DC of Bengals in 2019, chose to stay w/ Mullen at UF.  Was fired 9 games into the 2021 season.  Mullen was fired 2 games later.
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Gundy could have done worse.

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2 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

Wasn't there some rule for a while that to be FBS you had to average 30k official attendance (meaning tickets sold)? Or am I making that up?

I think they suspended that rule over fear of being sued, seeing how great they were doing in anti-trust lawsuits.

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5 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

I think they suspended that rule over fear of being sued, seeing how great they were doing in anti-trust lawsuits.

I mean it makes sense but limiting membership in your own organization is more defensible. They probably would have figured out a way to lose, though.

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6 hours ago, boilerhorn said:


Gundy could have done worse.

DC for Petrino 3 years at Louisville.
DC for Mullen 1 year at MSU
DC for Mullen all 4 years at Florida.  Was offered DC of Bengals in 2019, chose to stay w/ Mullen at UF.  Was fired 9 games into the 2021 season.  Mullen was fired 2 games later.
2022 Analyst for Saban.
2023/2024 - D Line coach for Saints.

No, this is a nightmare scenario, RIP OSU fans.  

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40 minutes ago, boilerhorn said:

The selection itself, or the way Gundy has been treated in the past week?  Please elaborate, if you do not mind.

OSU fans (I am not one) having to endure the agonizingly shitty Grantham defense combined with his hissy fit histrionics.  

You also left off his CV that he was also run out of Georgia when he was Hellen Hunt's DC.

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Just now, locodos said:

OSU fans (I am not one) having to endure the agonizingly shitty Grantham defense combined with his hissy fit histrionics.  

You also left off his CV that he was also run out of Georgia when he was Hellen Hunt's DC.

Thanks.  I had forgotten both of those details about him, esp. the histrionics.  I guess my original comment of "could have done worse" is true, "but not much" should be added.  Damning with faint praise, I guess.  "That seems like a good/great hire" never crossed my mind...

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Herb Hand.  Ha.  

Every fan base cheers when Herb Hand leaves their program.  That's what we did.  That's what the Auburn fans told us.  That's what the Auburn fans told us that the Penn State fans told them.  

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43 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Harsin did a good job here under a meddling HC.  He did a good job at Boise too. 

there is a strong rumor that in addition to Harsin, a "Special Assistant" will be hired at Cal who has extensive head coaching experience and innovative offenses.  Lot of noise about Chris Petersen getting the old gang together since Wilcox was his DC and Harsin his OC for so long.  We'll see.

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1 hour ago, Zhorn96 said:

there is a strong rumor that in addition to Harsin, a "Special Assistant" will be hired at Cal who has extensive head coaching experience and innovative offenses.  Lot of noise about Chris Petersen getting the old gang together since Wilcox was his DC and Harsin his OC for so long.  We'll see.

Doesn't seem like there's any way that Cal football has the money to pull this off...

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11 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Doesn't seem like there's any way that Cal football has the money to pull this off...

Cal has more money than you think.  It's not SEC money but there is decent $ there.  Plus, lets not forget that sweet $10M Calimony for the next few years haha

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Cal has more money than you think.  It's not SEC money but there is decent $ there.  Plus, lets not forget that sweet $10M Calimony for the next few years haha

2023:
$23mm Anonymous gift for Cal Golf.
$10mm Rogers family commitment to rowing

Just need a billionaire or two to step up for football :)

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3 minutes ago, boilerhorn said:

2023:
$23mm Anonymous gift for Cal Golf.
$10mm Rogers family commitment to rowing

Just need a billionaire or two to step up for football :)

they are trying.  The collapse against Miami was a killer, the floodgates would've opened if they had won that one but there are numerous holdouts because Wilcox sucks as a Coach CEO and there is a general lack of belief in him.  But Cal cant afford to give him $15M to go away... 2025 will be his tipping point, ridiculously easy schedule but they need 15-20 transfers to bolster the OL and the entire Defense (losing 9 starters)

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6 minutes ago, Zhorn96 said:

Cal has more money than you think.  It's not SEC money but there is decent $ there.  Plus, lets not forget that sweet $10M Calimony for the next few years haha

Oh sure, that's why they tried to cut their baseball program the year after they made the College World Series.  

And they're in ridiculous debt because the Hayward Fault runs right through their football stadium.

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The roughly $18 million interest-only annual payments on the debt consumes 20% of Cal's athletics budget and 15% of the campus structural deficit;[35] principal repayment begins in 2032 when the annual debt payment will rise to about $26 million per year, about $28 million in 2033, about $30 million per year for 2034–2038, and about $37 million per year for 2039–2044. The debt payments are scheduled to continue for 100 years from its 2013 inception, concluding in 2113.

 

WTF are you talking about?

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10 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Oh sure, that's why they tried to cut their baseball program the year after they made the College World Series.  

And they're in ridiculous debt because the Hayward Fault runs right through their football stadium.

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WTF are you talking about?

Couple things... The university has taken over the stadium debt so it is off the ADs budget.  Also, I was specifically referring to football when I say they have some money.  There is recognition, belatedly, that the revenue sports have to thrive or the entire bloated 30 sport athletic department will come crashing down.  I expect the bulk of the House $ requirement (once it gets sorted out in court) to be devoted to football with Men's bball getting most of the rest of the $20M a year.  They SHOULD cut 7-10 sports but they wont and there is a big push to self fund the non rev sports.  Golf just got it with the gift mentioned above.  Rowing, Swimming, Rugby and Water polo are similar.  Baseball and Women's bball are black holes.  Baseball got saved by a single donor a few years back and that money is almost gone so we'll see what happens there.

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53 minutes ago, Zhorn96 said:

Couple things... The university has taken over the stadium debt so it is off the ADs budget.  Also, I was specifically referring to football when I say they have some money.  There is recognition, belatedly, that the revenue sports have to thrive or the entire bloated 30 sport athletic department will come crashing down.  I expect the bulk of the House $ requirement (once it gets sorted out in court) to be devoted to football with Men's bball getting most of the rest of the $20M a year.  They SHOULD cut 7-10 sports but they wont and there is a big push to self fund the non rev sports.  Golf just got it with the gift mentioned above.  Rowing, Swimming, Rugby and Water polo are similar.  Baseball and Women's bball are black holes.  Baseball got saved by a single donor a few years back and that money is almost gone so we'll see what happens there.

This discussion is all well and good, but this is nothing more than Wilcox unfortunately being an old school typical defensive oriented head coach that wants to win games 13-3.  This will be his 5th OC in 6 years.  That’s Narduzzi level churn.  It’s unfortunate, because he is a good guy.  Internally, that program is being held together by duct tape and chicken wire.

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2 hours ago, Zhorn96 said:

there is a strong rumor that in addition to Harsin, a "Special Assistant" will be hired at Cal who has extensive head coaching experience and innovative offenses.  Lot of noise about Chris Petersen getting the old gang together since Wilcox was his DC and Harsin his OC for so long.  We'll see.

Didn't Harsin have a "special assistant" at Auburn that was partially why he was fired?

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2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Didn't Harsin have a "special assistant" at Auburn that was partially why he was fired?

Yeah, but *she* had a different role than Petersen would for Wilcox.  I think.

Harsin was also regaled as a raging asshole to the Auburn players.  Which is wild, given given their previous staff included Malzahn, Steele, and Chad Morris.  Of course, a couple of hundred dollar handshakes from Yellawood Man could make any player say just about anything. 

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5 minutes ago, boilerhorn said:

Yeah, but *she* had a different role than Petersen would for Wilcox.  I think.

Harsin was also regaled as a raging asshole to the Auburn players.  Which is wild, given given their previous staff included Malzahn, Steele, and Chad Morris.  Of course, a couple of hundred dollar handshakes from Yellawood Man could make any player say just about anything. 

I don't think his cult-y mountain man energy was the sort of asshole the Tigers players were used to.

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1 hour ago, Nigel Tufnel said:

This discussion is all well and good, but this is nothing more than Wilcox unfortunately being an old school typical defensive oriented head coach that wants to win games 13-3.  This will be his 5th OC in 6 years.  That’s Narduzzi level churn.  It’s unfortunate, because he is a good guy.  Internally, that program is being held together by duct tape and chicken wire.

If he hadn't gotten that dumbshit fully guaranteed contract to keep Oregon from "poaching him" after going 5-7, he would've been gone already.

Christ, to think the Ducks (allegedly) offered Wilcox the job which he turned down and then they offered Lanning blows my mind.  Talk about dodging a bullet in Eugene... the landscape of college football would be plenty different if he had taken that job.

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