"it's time for hunters to leave the NRA"

[brakeman 28359]

perchance a little trumpy.

[brakeman 28359]

 

a little history.

[brakeman 28359]

 

Edited June 8, 2022 by brakeman
more.

[Mdhorn 5948]

The NRA against gun registries but people are proud of their arsenals, so Ameriguns: https://www.leica-oskar-barnack-award.com/en/series-finalists/2021/gabriele-galimberti.html?fs=e&s=cl&fbclid=IwAR1pT8KZGamJD47QgV-zRv7l1E4RIsnm-6DghuXzIHGDVRlRCi88pY4F1Lk

 

[brakeman 28359]

2nd amendment eats the 1st.

this is where we are.

ban open carry, now.

[C-Man 27214]

[brakeman 28359]

 

[BHMCruiser 1813]

NRA with a big win at SCOTUS today

[Brisketexan 105095]

Just now, BHMCruiser said:

NRA with a big win at the NRA Supreme Court annex today

FIF accuracy.  We also would have accepted a "big win from their wholly owned subsidiary, GQP, Inc., SCOTUS division."

[BHMCruiser 1813]

Whatever. The NRA filed a lawsuit to protect carry outside the home and won. That's all. 

[pacman 7355]

I am sure Abbott and the NRA will be along to defend these folks soon...

They spoke Arabic while gun shopping in North Texas and ended up behind bars (msn.com)

 

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Their case points to a troubling trend that racial minorities in the U.S. have increasingly complained about: extra scrutiny when shopping for a gun.

 

[Judge Roybeanbag 11819]

On 6/23/2022 at 5:04 PM, BHMCruiser said:

Whatever. The NRA filed a lawsuit to protect carry outside the home and won. That's all. 

So much winning!  

 

[pacman 7355]

 

[Guest]

yeah, continue to ignore family factors and other behavioral issues.

Inanimate objects are causing murders...

[HOOKEM4 5036]

1 minute ago, slorch said:

yeah, continue to ignore family factors and other behavioral issues.

Inanimate objects are causing murders...

Well propose something to fix the "other factors" then GQP. What's that? You have nothing? Of course you don't. Your kind are worthless and complicit. 

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Well propose something to fix the "other factors" then GQP. What's that? You have nothing? Of course you don't. Your kind are worthless and complicit. 

I have asked this over and over again.

All right wing gun nuts on this site, tell us your proposals for stopping the American mass shooting pandemic. Show your work, be specific. Then tell us how you are voting for politicians that would propose or support such legislation.

Just tell us.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

Well propose something to fix the "other factors" then GQP. What's that? You have nothing? Of course you don't. Your kind are worthless and complicit. 

1. Stop raising fucked up kids.( impossible and no political value)  I always catch hell on this one, but it is the single biggest factor in the equation.  # of times my mom ever wondered if I'd shoot someone else unless it was in military duty or self-defense: zero.   Same for me and my kids.   Exposure to firearms in the home was regular and has continued to be.  None of those weapons have ever been pointed at a human being, much less been fired at them.

2. Have much more severe penalties for crimes committed with guns. I do support background checks.  Not big on red flag laws, especially with regard to political rivals/ differing opinions being able to weaponize that process.

3. I'm not an NRA member, nor have I ever been.  I am not remotely complicit with murders because I won't agree with your so-called solutions, so go fuck yourself.

Edited July 7, 2022 by slorch

[Biff Tannen 45673]

1 hour ago, slorch said:

yeah, continue to ignore family factors and other behavioral issues.

Inanimate objects are causing murders...

This just makes you sound like a complete moron.  I know you aren't. Be better.

[Covri 6247]

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

This just makes you sound like a complete moron.  I know you aren't. Be better.

Inanimate objects are causing murders...

No, he is absolutely a complete moron. 

Edited July 7, 2022 by Covri

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

This just makes you sound like a complete moron.  I know you aren't. Be better.

Really?  These murders are committed by well-adjusted folks who were just overwhelmed by their firearms, right?

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Covri said:

No, he is absolutely a complete moron. 

IQ test, any day you want, fuck stick.  All you do is run your mouth and start shit.

Edited July 7, 2022 by slorch

[Biff Tannen 45673]

1 hour ago, slorch said:

Really?  These murders are committed by well-adjusted folks who were just overwhelmed by their firearms, right?

Nope.  Folks who had access to firearms.  I'm not concerned whether they are well-adjusted or not.  Without the firearms, it's moot.

[Pato del Muerto 52489]

On 6/1/2022 at 11:52 PM, brakeman said:

This is such fake news. 
 

 

 

 

Art was defunded years ago, there’s no art teachers to kit up. 

[HOOKEM4 5036]

3 minutes ago, slorch said:

1. Stop raising fucked up kids.( impossible and no political value)  I always catch hell on this one, but it is the single biggest factor in the equation.  # of times my mom ever wondered if I'd shoot someone else unless it was in military duty or self-defense: zero.   Same for me and my kids.   Exposure to firearms in the home was regular and has continued to be.  None of those weapons have ever been pointed at a human being, much less been fired at them.

2. Have much more severe penalties for crimes committed with guns.

3. I'm not an NRA member, nor have I ever been.  I am not remotely complicit with murders because I won't agree with your so-called solutions, so go fuck yourself.

No you are complicit because you are absolutely refusing to see what the problem is and commit to addressing it. The fact that a mentally unstable child can buy a weapon that can shoot 30 rounds in under 30 seconds is a problem. There are countless examples why and you want to divert back to this gqp talking point. 

Go fuck yourself for being part of the problem. 

I am what is called a gun nut by the media and I am 100% sure the solution is not to ignore the "inanimate object" that is used in every one of these attacks.

Evolve.

[Guest]

Just now, Biff Tannen said:

Nope.  Folks who had access to firearms.  I'm not concerned whether they are well-adjusted or not.  Without the firearms, it's moot.

so making the firearms more illegal for illegal acts will prevent folks ignoring the law from breaking the law?

 

Got it.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

No you are complicit because you are absolutely refusing to see what the problem is and commit to addressing it. The fact that a mentally unstable child can buy a weapon that can shoot 30 rounds in under 30 seconds is a problem. There are countless examples why and you want to divert back to this gqp talking point. 

Go fuck yourself for being part of the problem. 

I am what is called a gun nut by the media and I am 100% sure the solution is not to ignore the "inanimate object" that is used in every one of these attacks.

Evolve.

Evolve to many of you= rescind your freedom, even if you handle it responsibly.

That isn't evolution.  It's surrender.

No thank you.

 

I recognize the problem.  You prefer a political solution that I disagree would solve anything.

Edited July 7, 2022 by slorch

[hobbes2702 13032]

6 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This just makes you sound like a complete moron.  I know you aren't. Be better.

[HOOKEM4 5036]

Just now, slorch said:

Evolve to many of you= rescind your freedom, even if you handle it responsibly.

That isn't evolution.  It's surrender.

Another talking point. The enemy is clear and it ain't what your cult buddies told you. It is right in front of your eyes.

 

[Pato del Muerto 52489]

Just now, slorch said:

so making the firearms more illegal for illegal acts will prevent folks ignoring the law from breaking the law?

 

Got it.

So you are arguing for confiscation of arms and paraphernalia that gets made illegal, then?  That way the illegal guns aren’t around anymore?  
 

also, does the rest of the world not raise fucked up kids?

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Slorch, are you pro-life? Did you vote for Abbott or other pro-life politicians?

[HOOKEM4 5036]

I can talk to anyone who has bought the GQP talking points and they are indistinguishable from eachother. I had this exact same conversation with a neighbor last weekend and it was like talking to slorch. Same talking points. Nobody ever knows they are in a cult until it is way too late. 

[Covri 6247]

11 minutes ago, slorch said:

IQ test, any day you want, fuck stick.  All you do is run your mouth and start shit.

Not falling for your plan to lower my IQ by having to be in the same room as you. Go throw a tortilla at a someone or whatever it is you do for fun, in your sad, pathetic life.

[Biff Tannen 45673]

1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

[Walser 1109]

28 minutes ago, slorch said:

so making the firearms more illegal for illegal acts will prevent folks ignoring the law from breaking the law?

 

Got it.

Well we should do away with laws then. Because they aren't stopping anyone from breaking them. Problem solved.

[ChiTownDoc 21152]

On 7/5/2022 at 6:49 PM, Judge Roybeanbag said:

So much winning!  

 

Need to modify thread title, "it's time for hunters to leave the NRA, unless you're hunting humans, then by all means, please sign up"

[CTC2 2796]

34 minutes ago, slorch said:

Evolve to many of you= rescind your freedom, even if you handle it responsibly.

That isn't evolution.  It's surrender.

No thank you.

 

I recognize the problem.  You prefer a political solution that I disagree would solve anything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

[Thatguy 8686]

45 minutes ago, slorch said:

1. Stop raising fucked up kids.( impossible and no political value)  I always catch hell on this one, but it is the single biggest factor in the equation.  

2. Have much more severe penalties for crimes committed with guns.

3. I'm not an NRA member, nor have I ever been.  I am not remotely complicit with murders because I won't agree with your so-called solutions, so go fuck yourself.

Come on Slorch!

  Parents of the shooter throughout history have had a hard time diagnosing their weirdo kids. Partly because they love them, but also because the bastard has been weird his whole life and hadn't done anything the prior 18+ years.

  Secondly, severe penalties for gun crimes isn't gonna do shit because most of these shooters are going out in a hail of gunfire or self inflicted gunshot wound.

 

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

54 minutes ago, slorch said:

1. Stop raising fucked up kids.( impossible and no political value)  I always catch hell on this one, but it is the single biggest factor in the equation.  # of times my mom ever wondered if I'd shoot someone else unless it was in military duty or self-defense: zero.   Same for me and my kids.   Exposure to firearms in the home was regular and has continued to be.  None of those weapons have ever been pointed at a human being, much less been fired at them.

2. Have much more severe penalties for crimes committed with guns. I do support background checks.  Not big on red flag laws, especially with regard to political rivals/ differing opinions being able to weaponize that process.

3. I'm not an NRA member, nor have I ever been.  I am not remotely complicit with murders because I won't agree with your so-called solutions, so go fuck yourself.

1. What about those older "kids" who commit these atrocities? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Paddock

2. Let's prosecute those shooters super duper hard after they commit their crimes??? 

If those are your "solutions", you shouldn't want to compare IQ with a gnat. 

[Biff Tannen 45673]

The sad part is all of this stems from the idea of "I just want to be able to have guns!".  Seriously, look at that statement.  WTF, you absolute children.

[StassneyHorn 6575]

1 hour ago, slorch said:

yeah, continue to ignore family factors and other behavioral issues.

Inanimate objects are causing murders...

Are family factors in the US much different than elsewhere? Is your generation’s parenting to blame?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, slorch said:

1. Stop raising fucked up kids.( impossible and no political value)  I always catch hell on this one, but it is the single biggest factor in the equation.  # of times my mom ever wondered if I'd shoot someone else unless it was in military duty or self-defense: zero.   Same for me and my kids.   Exposure to firearms in the home was regular and has continued to be.  None of those weapons have ever been pointed at a human being, much less been fired at them.

2. Have much more severe penalties for crimes committed with guns. I do support background checks.  Not big on red flag laws, especially with regard to political rivals/ differing opinions being able to weaponize that process.

3. I'm not an NRA member, nor have I ever been.  I am not remotely complicit with murders because I won't agree with your so-called solutions, so go fuck yourself.

Ok, I'm here to listen on Number 1. What does that realistically look like? What sort of changes can realistically be implemented to achieve that goal? 

I feel like there could definitely be a better social safety net and programs to support child rearing, but I get the feeling that conservative voters would also decry it as socialism. If you want to leave it up to the individual parents without broader policies or programs, then how on Earth is that going to happen? 

You write that it's impossible, so maybe we are in agreement there. And if that's impossible, don't you think we should look at something we can realistically do? Or do you just consider it a public hazard that we have to just live with?

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

Jesus titty fucking Christ

“Stop raising fucked up kids”?????

The absolute best parents in the world can’t out parent mental illness.

You want an example of bad parents “raising fucked up kids”?

The parent that buys their kid a fucking gun.

Fucked up kids exist in every single nation on Earth.

Bad parents exist in every single nation on Earth.

Video games exist in every single nation on Earth.

Violent television shows and movies exist in every single nation on Earth.

SSRIs exist in every single nation on Earth.

Social media exists in every single nation on Earth.

Angry virgin men exist in every single nation on Earth.

So why is it only America that has mass slaughter every two days and has ORPHANED BABIES wandering around the aftermath of a said slaughter with the blood of his murdered parents on his tiny bare feet?

IT’S THE MOTHERFUCKING GUNS.

[StassneyHorn 6575]

Well now you made him look dumb and he has to double down now and dig his high heels in to the ground.

[YChang 3443]

It’s not like what you said Slorch isn’t without merit… but I don’t get why your’e so dogmatic that it’s everything but way too easy access to guns. 

[troph 24783]

There’s a lot we can do to support families like paid family leave, preschool, healthcare, better wages, the list is a mile long. But that doesn’t solve the gun violence problem it solves the lack of support for families. We need both. 

[pacman 7355]

3 hours ago, slorch said:

1. Stop raising fucked up kids.( impossible and no political value)  I always catch hell on this one, but it is the single biggest factor in the equation.  # of times my mom ever wondered if I'd shoot someone else unless it was in military duty or self-defense: zero.   Same for me and my kids.   Exposure to firearms in the home was regular and has continued to be.  None of those weapons have ever been pointed at a human being, much less been fired at them.

Weak sauce, no evidence whatsoever that child rearing has anything to do with it. Next.

[F250 28767]

7 minutes ago, pacman said:

Weak sauce, no evidence whatsoever that child rearing has anything to do with it. Next.

Este. But try having this conversation with someone that doesn't comprehend that people are born neurologically hardwired.

[fattyflattie 4639]

10 minutes ago, pacman said:

Weak sauce, no evidence whatsoever that child rearing has anything to do with it. Next.

You don’t think the other 50 people who got shot/shot someone in Chicago this weekend had anything to do with how they were raised?  

[F250 28767]

2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

You don’t think the other 50 people who got shot/shot someone in Chicago this weekend had anything to do with how they were raised?  

Do you really think actors that take place in violent crimes associated with the black market and gangs are the same as mass murders?

 

[fattyflattie 4639]

Just now, F250 said:

Do you really think actors that take place in violent crimes associated with the black market and gangs are the same as mass murders?

 

Not at all. I do believe the shootings count in the statistics in gun violence that is pointed to as a reason we should make changes, though. Gun violence is gun violence. If you’re using those stats, then it should be part of the discussion.