Urban Meyer suspended first 3 games

[South Austin 52456]

I agree with the Trubune.  If there is credible evidence that Urban reported the 2015 incident to the AD, that should be enough for the couch burners to mitigate against his lies to the media and justify a suspension for a couple meaningless games.

[JimmyHoffa 1188]

46 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I agree with the Trubune.  If there is credible evidence that Urban reported the 2015 incident to the AD, that should be enough for the couch burners to mitigate against his lies to the media and justify a suspension for a couple meaningless games.

 

Again the cover up is worse than the crime. I don't think he's fired but holy hell the couch burners aren't going to forget. Also I am sure a few coaches around the country will be happy to remind potential recruits mom (especially) and dad that he basically allowed a known wife beater to stay on his staff and coach his team. Not a good look at all.  

 

[South Austin 52456]

21 minutes ago, JimmyHoffa said:

 

Again the cover up is worse than the crime. I don't think he's fired but holy hell the couch burners aren't going to forget. Also I am sure a few coaches around the country will be happy to remind potential recruits mom (especially) and dad that he basically allowed a known wife beater to stay on his staff and coach his team. Not a good look at all.  

 

True, but I think Ohio State will view “cover up” more narrowly as applying to Urb’s actions with respect to the university, not whether he may have told some lies to a bunch of filthy journalists.

[HtownHorn 14670]

1 hour ago, South Austin said:

I agree with the Trubune.  If there is credible evidence that Urban reported the 2015 incident to the AD, that should be enough for the couch burners to mitigate against his lies to the media and justify a suspension for a couple meaningless games.

Yep, the mental hoops they re jumping through is really awful. Same with Paterno. He reported it up the chain, saw that nothing was done, and was fine with keeping a child rapist habitual domestic abuser and apparent alcoholic around the program/on staff.

Edited August 15, 2018 by HtownHorn

[texaslong 678]

1 hour ago, JimmyHoffa said:

 

Again the cover up is worse than the crime. I don't think he's fired but holy hell the couch burners aren't going to forget. Also I am sure a few coaches around the country will be happy to remind potential recruits mom (especially) and dad that he basically allowed a known wife beater to stay on his staff and coach his team. Not a good look at all.  

 

If Urban does keep his job, I could see his dirty recruiting getting worse. This is a guy who basically coordinated with Zach Smith to do an interview stating he (Urban) should keep his job, and then followed that up with using Snook to report that Herman was the snitch. He’ll be 10 times worse if he stays on. 

Edited August 15, 2018 by texaslong

[Magus Ossis 2797]

Ok, so I’m the AD or the president. I have a paper trail that shows he followed procedure well enough to say he was not lying about reporting the 2015 events up the chain. How on earth do I justify locking him out and forbidding contact with the staff or team while I finish up my investigation? Am I missing something here?

[Deej 76755]

27 minutes ago, Magus Ossis said:

Ok, so I’m the AD or the president. I have a paper trail that shows he followed procedure well enough to say he was not lying about reporting the 2015 events up the chain. How on earth do I justify locking him out and forbidding contact with the staff or team while I finish up my investigation? Am I missing something here?

It's taking them awhile to finish up backdating the paper trail. 

[Shmitty 112]

20 minutes ago, Deej said:

It's taking them awhile to finish up backdating the paper trail. 

This.   I wouldn't put it past them.  

[C-Man 27194]

I'm not even sure Urban gets suspended for any games at this point.

[Scheiss Meister 8407]

28 minutes ago, Deej said:

It's taking them awhile to finish up backdating the paper trail. 

That shit takes time.  Lots of Ts to be crossed, and eyes to be dotted.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

Ironic that Rojo is going to end up with a worse punishment than Urban.

[Bartles 769]

They can always use his media day lie-fest to suspend him for "failure to uphold university standards" or something. But I'm a slight lean towards he gets booted, though it may not legally be described as firing him.

[jinx 2635]

I'm past thinking he will be fired, and am now looking forward to the year long media shit storm and bombardment by #metoo that he and OSU will have to endure.  I'm hoping that letting him stay may be the impetus for someone to uncover ALL of the shit that he has hidden over the years.

[Captain Obvious 516]

1 hour ago, Magus Ossis said:

Ok, so I’m the AD or the president. I have a paper trail that shows he followed procedure well enough to say he was not lying about reporting the 2015 events up the chain. How on earth do I justify locking him out and forbidding contact with the staff or team while I finish up my investigation? Am I missing something here?

tOSU isn't playing anyone threatening in the first couple weeks.  Let the assistants run drills on autopilot and try (and likely fail) to garner some goodwill by letting the independent investigation conclude before you suspend Meyer for the preseason and carry on as if nothing happened.

[hookem48 4687]

1 hour ago, Magus Ossis said:

Ok, so I’m the AD or the president. I have a paper trail that shows he followed procedure well enough to say he was not lying about reporting the 2015 events up the chain. How on earth do I justify locking him out and forbidding contact with the staff or team while I finish up my investigation? Am I missing something here?

you're missing the fact that there's no way in hell he's not in contact with his team and staff on an up to the minute basis

[El Diablo 4232]

I can't help but wonder how Urbs' heart is holding up. I mean, the stress must be incredible. He's not getting fired or even suspended, they'll whip someone else for the publics entertainment and Urbs will retire at the end of the year with the buyout that he's negotiating right now. Due to stress of course.

[hookem48 4687]

5 hours ago, ernest_t_bass said:

When is this investigation supposed to be over, anyway?

what investigation? those fuckers are sitting around watching replays of their victory against Bama and eating donuts.

[Patrick Bateman 3911]

5 hours ago, ernest_t_bass said:

When is this investigation supposed to be over, anyway?

Latest is they'll conclude the investigation by Sunday..... But I wouldn't hold them to it.

[The Earl of Texas 3132]

1 hour ago, C-Man said:

I'm not even sure Urban gets suspended for any games at this point.

This.

Urban skates on this like Nancy Kerrigan Michelle Kwan. 

[Orangechipper 15]

1 hour ago, Magus Ossis said:

Ok, so I’m the AD or the president. I have a paper trail that shows he followed procedure well enough to say he was not lying about reporting the 2015 events up the chain. How on earth do I justify locking him out and forbidding contact with the staff or team while I finish up my investigation? Am I missing something here?

If he did it all above board then there would be zero reason to lie and obfuscate and downplay 9 times at the presser.    

 

If if you don’t have said paper trail.  How do you justify keeping him?

 

[Ghost of Shag 2608]

28 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Latest is they'll conclude the investigation by Sunday..... But I wouldn't hold them to it.

My money is they suspend him for two games, concluding the investigation by Friday....late afternoon.  Leak it to the media around 4pm.  

It will be old news by Monday when all the talking heads resume their talking.  

Edited August 15, 2018 by Ghost of Shag

[longhrnfan 61]

Everything else aside, how are his outright lies at media day not grounds for removal just by themselves? 

[kopp0e 1135]

1 hour ago, Magus Ossis said:

Ok, so I’m the AD or the president. I have a paper trail that shows he followed procedure well enough to say he was not lying about reporting the 2015 events up the chain. How on earth do I justify locking him out and forbidding contact with the staff or team while I finish up my investigation? Am I missing something here?

You know, the crazy thing is, where was the outrage over keeping the athletic doctor at Ohio State..?

 

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3868]

15 hours ago, Bill Lumbergh said:

Ojo Rojo, I hear what you're saying, but I've been down the path you're going down and it doesn't end well. 

First, you "incorrectly answer" your wife's questions about whether or not you were out with that whore from the office. 

Then, when she provides evidence confirming your accidental incorrect answer, you point out that it wasn't exactly a lie, because you weren't prepared to answer the question, so it wasn't a fair to expect an honest answer.

Finally, you reassure her that, no matter what may or may not have happened with that whore from the office, you didn't have INTENT for it to happen, so it can't be used against you. 

I also thought that these sound and rational arguments would calm her rage and level heads would prevail.  I guess some angry mobs, and wives, just can't be reasoned with. 

I have to assume from your user name that you fucked her. 

Edited August 15, 2018 by ShaggyBevo RIP

[kopp0e 1135]

The crimes at Ohio State may also include local politicians as well:

 

[C-Man 27194]

34 minutes ago, longhrnfan said:

Everything else aside, how are his outright lies at media day not grounds for removal just by themselves? 

73-8

[ShowmeyourTDs 1141]

1 hour ago, Scheiss Meister said:

That shit takes time.  Lots of Ts to be crossed, and eyes to be dotted.

True, but it seems that tOSU is more interested in crossing eyes and doing nothing with the T’s with the spinning that is being done in the media.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

21 minutes ago, C-Man said:

73-8

 

[irishtexan 11515]

Jesus. Ohio State really is a fucking dumpster fire across the board. From their heart-attack faking, murderer-coddling, wife-beater welcoming head football coach, to their diabeetus-inflicted, Midwest trash fan-base, to their sexual assaulting team doctor, to their blind-eye turning Athletic Department. Just a heaping pile of steaming shit from the top down. . 

[campcrunk 2438]

1 hour ago, Ghost of Shag said:

My money is they suspend him for two games, concluding the investigation by Friday....late afternoon.  Leak it to the media around 4pm.  

It will be old news by Monday when all the talking heads resume their talking.  

I think this is probably correct. Wouldn't surprise me at all if those scumfucks did a 4:45 p.m. Friday news dump and just kept their fingers crossed that a lot of the outrage blows over before Monday or that the media's attention span won't last though the weekend. I'd love to be wrong, but all indications are that they are going to bend over backwards to keep him.

Edited August 15, 2018 by campcrunk

[Bogeywon 2519]

All they care about us 73-8 period. The university the coach are FUCKED UP

[BERT 4358]

I don't think Brett McMurphy is gonna let this go quietly. 

[futureman 22444]

probably been discussed but what can happen if they don’t fire him?  their fan base clearly wants him.  what prevents them from just saying “fuck everyone, we’re keeping him”?  would the ncaa step in?

if not I doubt he’s going anywhere. 

[Bogeywon 2519]

19 minutes ago, BERT said:

I don't think Brett McMurphy is gonna let this go quietly. 

I hope he’s not the only one! The media should all freak out to put the pressure on them to fire his ass. 

[BERT 4358]

14 minutes ago, futureman said:

probably been discussed but what can happen if they don’t fire him?  their fan base clearly wants him.  what prevents them from just saying “fuck everyone, we’re keeping him”?  would the ncaa step in?

if not I doubt he’s going anywhere. 

good one!! That's better than your Waddle jokes. 

[Beau Vine 54208]

20 minutes ago, futureman said:

probably been discussed but what can happen if they don’t fire him?  their fan base clearly wants him.  what prevents them from just saying “fuck everyone, we’re keeping him”?  would the ncaa step in?

 

[Surlybastard 65]

24 minutes ago, campcrunk said:

I think this is probably correct. Wouldn't surprise me at all if those scumfucks did a 4:45 p.m. Friday news dump and just kept their fingers crossed that a lot of the outrage blows over before Monday or that the media's attention span won't last though the weekend. I'd love to be wrong, but all indications are that they are going to bend over backwards to keep him.

How much outrage is the media really going to muster over this regardless? This isn't a Baylor/psu level of criminality/coverup or whatever you want to call it. Its something that should serve as a 'get your shit together or next time you might really be gone' sort of scandal tbh. I know some people love to see programs burn or at least get knocked down a peg or two and most everyone would love to see it happen with UM but I can't summon that much outrage over this. Its a coach who roughed up his ex wife and which the police looked into like a dozen times from what I see. The supposed crime committed here if you want to call it that was UM simply refusing to fire him based off the pics that leaked. So unless the police were covering for him I think that's where it ends. I think the Maryland scandal already has outdone this from where the media is sitting. Except for that fact that Maryland is Maryland and Ohio St is Ohio St.

[futureman 22444]

28 minutes ago, BERT said:

good one!! That's better than your Waddle jokes. 

jokes?

[RollLeft 5040]

1 hour ago, irishtexan said:

Jesus. Ohio State really is a fucking dumpster fire across the board. From their heart-attack faking, murderer-coddling, wife-beater welcoming head football coach, to their diabeetus-inflicted, Midwest trash fan-base, to their sexual assaulting team doctor, to their blind-eye turning Athletic Department. Just a heaping pile of steaming shit from the top down. . 

[Goodman 3273]

1 hour ago, irishtexan said:

Jesus. Ohio State really is a fucking dumpster fire across the board. From their heart-attack faking, murderer-coddling, wife-beater welcoming head football coach, to their diabeetus-inflicted, Midwest trash fan-base, to their sexual assaulting team doctor, to their blind-eye turning Athletic Department. Just a heaping pile of steaming shit from the top down. . 

Folks are starting to see the light.

[Enchubben 5510]

The gameday signs and opinions/reporting from the booth will be on display each and every game this year. Hopefully Herbie calls one of the Ohio State games; that should be interesting.

[Goodman 3273]

7 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

Chicago Tribune doesnt think Urban is gonna get fired.   Maybe a suspension they think

 

 

 

 

Institutions like tosu, sec and ou are not built for moral accountability. The moral responsibility of having this POS on staff coaching/recruiting & influencing young men are why the HC should be fired. Urbs knowing and reporting it mean nothing to me, nothing happens in that FB program without Urban demanding it. He decided to keep him on staff and have his media friends/PD keep this local/quiet.

[UcancallmeSurly 451]

1 hour ago, irishtexan said:

Jesus. Ohio State really is a fucking dumpster fire across the board. From their heart-attack faking, murderer-coddling, wife-beater welcoming head football coach, to their diabeetus-inflicted, Midwest trash fan-base, to their sexual assaulting team doctor, to their blind-eye turning Athletic Department. Just a heaping pile of steaming shit from the top down. . 

I believe the industry nomenclature is “cesspool”.

[naija 2854]

frankly, I find the angle of saying Urban "passed it on" to be a charade in of itself. why anyone should think that would be enough is beyond me. who in their right mind believes Urban didn't have the biggest say over who was on his staff? if he went to the AD and said he wanted Smith gone, was he going to be stopped from having the result come to pass?

talk about passing the buck.

[Beau Vine 54208]

20 minutes ago, naija said:

frankly, I find the angle of saying Urban "passed it on" to be a charade in of itself. why anyone should think that would be enough is beyond me. who in their right mind believes Urban didn't have the biggest say over who was on his staff? if he went to the AD and said he wanted Smith gone, was he going to be stopped from having the result come to pass?

talk about passing the buck.

[kopp0e 1135]

1 hour ago, BERT said:

I don't think Brett McMurphy is gonna let this go quietly. 

He shouldn't, boy ESPN must realize how they screwed the pooch, in firing journalistic integrity to keep random yet high paid "hot take" camera prop talking heads...

[Treefidy 1463]

4 hours ago, C-Man said:

I'm not even sure Urban gets suspended for any games at this point.

2 week suspension, time served. 

[Treefidy 1463]

2 hours ago, Surlybastard said:

How much outrage is the media really going to muster over this regardless? This isn't a Baylor/psu level of criminality/coverup or whatever you want to call it. Its something that should serve as a 'get your shit together or next time you might really be gone' sort of scandal tbh. I know some people love to see programs burn or at least get knocked down a peg or two and most everyone would love to see it happen with UM but I can't summon that much outrage over this. Its a coach who roughed up his ex wife and which the police looked into like a dozen times from what I see. The supposed crime committed here if you want to call it that was UM simply refusing to fire him based off the pics that leaked. So unless the police were covering for him I think that's where it ends. I think the Maryland scandal already has outdone this from where the media is sitting. Except for that fact that Maryland is Maryland and Ohio St is Ohio St.

It's more than that, it's a shitbag coach who employs shitbag coaches.

Smith--wife abuser, drunk

schiano--allegedly knew about stuff at pedo

wilson-- fired for abusing players

Durkin--about to be fired for player death

tim beckman-- fired for player abuse

anderson-- left Wisconsin because they had "too high an academic standard for athletes; quit mid season at OreSU

 Withers--involved with butch davis scandal at UNC

mike Stanford--just a shitty coach and OC who was fired by strong at Louisville and replaced with Watson.  Any coach replaced by Watson deserves to be on this list  

thats almost half Meyers HC tree with some degree of douchiness.   The assistant branches likely include many more gems.  

 

 

 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13091]

We have a combination of Meyer and Mack Brown with our head coach. Herman will abuse players by throwing cookies at them.

[alincoln 2371]

The great irony of this thread is that Smith turned a position at Texas down when offered to him by Herman who was well aware of his relationship issues.

The same Herman who hired Casey Horny.