Urban Meyer suspended first 3 games

[DigglerontheHoof 21184]

Trash Disco

[C-Man 27203]

12 minutes ago, Disco Missile said:

You're welcome to believe whatever you'd like. I'm just pointing out that this is essentially one person's word against another's, and one person stands to gain from it.

Then why did Urban Meyer fire him last week?

[Disco Missile 456]

7 minutes ago, Sejjr said:

I guess Courtney Smith is also a skilled copywriter and graphic designer, creating fake text messages where Zach Smith was threatening to kill her. Could it happen like that and Zach Smith is just a misunderstood quality human with a mega-cunt ex-wife? Yes. Could it also be possible that Zach Smith is a garbage human being hiding behind his grandaddy's legacy and deserves all the shit that is coming to him? Yes. I am leaning with the latter.

Do you have links to those? I haven't seen them, only read them on McMurphy's FB page

[Gene Parmesan 4004]

17 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

there is no way he survives this. nor should he, nor should any coach on that staff that knew and did nothing. what a shitshow.

and i will never understand fans who rationalize shit. if it was happening at bellmont, i would be there with the torches ready to burn everything down. it's up to ohio state alumni to police their own program out of respect for the university itself. holy shit, where's the tylenol?

Those wins though

[Richter 2257]

10 minutes ago, Disco Missile said:

Do you have links to those? I haven't seen them, only read them on McMurphy's FB page

There's pictures of the injuries and text messages on McMurphy's facebook page.  Are you saying McMurphy photoshopped them?

[Zepol87 9185]

Disco stop shitty trolling or take a break man. Your shits all fucked up

[honolulu horn 6158]

6 minutes ago, Richter said:

There's pictures of the injuries and text messages on McMurphy's facebook page.  Are you saying McMurphy photoshopped them?

Seems like the only reasonable conclusion.

[Sejjr 3246]

I mean, we have pictures of Billy Liucci sucking a big pink dick. Does that mean it really happened?

Yes, yes it does. Sometimes, you just know.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

16 minutes ago, Disco Missile said:

Do you have links to those? I haven't seen them, only read them on McMurphy's FB page

Dude. Quit while you are behind.

[TrashMaster G 17551]

25 minutes ago, Disco Missile said:

You're welcome to believe whatever you'd like. I'm just pointing out that this is essentially one person's word against another's, and one person stands to gain from it.

So, genius, why did Urban fire the guy a couple of weeks ago and bring more focus on something that happened years ago if it really is just he-said, she-said?  How does that make any sense?

[North Austin 10]

Breaking News.  Urban Meyer is a piece of shit.

 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

You wonder how people believed JoPa and Rapey Mc Rapeface.

Just look at Disco's posts and you'll see how.

[Dennis Taylor 18811]

Disco is just saying the exact same thing all the lawyer types on here say when they pontificate about doing the best job they can for their client no matter how obviously guilty the scumbag is 

[Dennis Taylor 18811]

12 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

So, genius, why did Urban fire the guy a couple of weeks ago and bring more focus on something that happened years ago if it really is just he-said, she-said?  How does that make any sense?

maybe because of this...

 

2018

May 12: Zach Smith charged with criminal trespassing, according to the Powell Police Department. Smith admitted to police his pulled up to his ex-wife's residence despite Courtney Smith pleading with him not to show up. 

July 20: Reported first by Brett McMurphy three days after the filing, Zach Smith has a domestic civil order filed against him by Courtney Smith.

July 23: Zach Smith fired after being charged with a misdemeanor charge of criminal trespassing due to an incident involving his ex-wife. Smith was arrested for aggravated battery for allegedly grabbing or pushing Courtney when she was pregnant, but charges weren't filed.

[HtownHorn 14674]

35 minutes ago, Disco Missile said:

You're welcome to believe whatever you'd like. I'm just pointing out that this is essentially one person's word against another's, and one person stands to gain from it.

He WAS arrested. Does that not compute in that piece of shit brain of yours?

[CurlyDumps 4468]

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Zach once told me,” said Courtney, “if he ever got fired and this all comes out: ‘I’ll take everyone at Ohio State down with me.’ ”

 

4 hours ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

I mentioned this as a possible reason he's still around. He knows where all the UF and tOSU dirt is.

Also sounds like the words of an unhinged, narcissistic serial abuser exhibiting coercive/controlling behavior. May not be much more there than an empty threat used to control Courtney.

Granted, not a lot of details out there, but it sure sounds like Zach Smith is a piece of shit who got away with abuse for almost a decade.

[Huckleberry 32850]

37 minutes ago, Disco Missile said:

You're welcome to believe whatever you'd like. I'm just pointing out that this is essentially one person's word against another's, and one person stands to gain from it.

I'm with you, man. The entire system up in Columbus, Ohio is out to get Zach Smith, assistant coach for the Ohio State Buckeyes football team and grandson of Earl Bruce. It's obviously a setup by THE MAN! The arrests, restraining orders, civil protection orders, stalking charges, all of it is a ruse! She bruised herself, cut herself, forged maniacal text messages from Zach Smith, forged text messages from Shelley Meyer where Mrs. Meyer says she's scared of Zach Smith, ALL OF IT IS A SHAM PERPETRATED ON ZACH SMITH BY THE LIZARD PEOPLE!

You know what they say, if some woman falsely accused some man somewhere with no evidence then we should immediately assume all other men are innocent regardless of the amount of evidence we see. RIGHT ON, BROTHER!

[Noah Fence 480]

42 minutes ago, Disco Missile said:

You're welcome to believe whatever you'd like. I'm just pointing out that this is essentially one person's word against another's, and one person stands to gain from it.

Do you really believe that Courtney Smith has something to gain in all of this?  Assistant coaches at P5 schools make a lot of money, and her ex-husband is now un-employable so forget whatever alimony/child support she can get.  If it was money she was after, she would have kept her mouth shut.  I guess she is banking on the Lifetime network to option her story for a movie.

[Sejjr 3246]

13 minutes ago, Noah Fence said:

Do you really believe that Courtney Smith has something to gain in all of this?  Assistant coaches at P5 schools make a lot of money, and her ex-husband is now un-employable so forget whatever alimony/child support she can get.  If it was money she was after, she would have kept her mouth shut.  I guess she is banking on the Lifetime network to option her story for a movie.

Let's not forget all the mouth-breathing idiots in Colombus who will be threatening her and blaming her for fucking up their football program. Sounds great. 

[lemonandaturd 4285]

Smith threatened to kill her and beat her lawyer "friend" to an unrecognizable pulp.  O.J. says this is a big frame up.  He has offered to help Urbs find the real texter.  

[Huckleberry 32850]

Come on man, that's just normal marital and post-marital banter. Let he who has not threatened to kill his ex-wife and commit aggravated assault against her friend cast the first stone.

[Orangechipper 15]

Urban is lucky Courtney wasn’t killed.    Then he might also be facing criminal charges.  

[Newbomb_Turk 8]

21 hours ago, Clob94 said:

Given the fact that incident one happened in 2009, any staff member with urban and this dude could have been privy to it all the way up to 2015. 

We have two former members of that staff in our employment. What if one or both of their wives were privy?

What do restrooms have to do with any of this?

[Machinator 32099]

From Jeff Howe:

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Herman on the Urban Meyer stuff at Ohio State:

— He left after the 2014 season

— "The things that occurred, to my knowledge, happened in late 2015"

— He doesn't think it would be fair to comment on things that happened while he wasn't there

 

[The Dude 1244]

I think Urbs just got paged at the airport in Florence

[Orangechipper 15]

7 minutes ago, Machinator said:

From Jeff Howe:

 

 

Yep.  Yahoo seems to corroborate that timeline.  Most went down after October 2015 when Herman was out of dodge.  

 

Bomc at it again.  

https://sports.yahoo.com/new-documents-detail-timeline-zach-smiths-alleged-abuse-235056848.html

 

[OrangEngr 1035]

7 minutes ago, Machinator said:

From Jeff Howe:

 

Welp, great. Now we can move past that. Right? RIGHT?!?!

FCB

[UcancallmeSurly 451]

1 hour ago, Disco Missile said:

That police report has been updated. Apparently he was not arrested as initial reports indicated.

He was arrested in 2009 based on statements made by Courtney, but the charges were dropped.
Prosecutors rarely drop DV charges even when victims request because they take them seriously.

 

Reference: https://www.thescore.com/ncaaf/news/1578125

Hey dead horse killer..  shit never went thru due to grandpa Earle & the Urbs pulling the strings.

And guess what?  Zach never stopped beatin the weak, Earle kicked it & Urb choked on a narcissistic penile reminder that good eventually trumps evil.

 

[Bodacious Bevo 3584]

@whoever is saying it's made up

There is a ton of stuff that hasn't been released to the public. 

Zach Smith has never been convicted has never been convicted because he has never been tried because she dropped the charges.

But Courtney Smith does have enough evidence to get a protective order and the divorce in 2015. 

I'm all for withholding judgement and innocent until proven guilty, but Zach Smith doesn't really have much as far as defense goes. It's a bit more than just he said she said at this point. He's been arrested a couple times, there are 9 police reports over an extended period of time, Courtney Smith didn't start all the public drama, and she really doesn't have much to gain from it. This is the result of good reporting on Brett McMurphy's part, not some plot to ruin Zach Smith's career. 

I think Shelley Meyer's text that she's scared of Smith is a bit harrowing. 

[po elvis 2070]

1 hour ago, hayden_horn said:

there is no way he survives this. nor should he, nor should any coach on that staff that knew and did nothing. what a shitshow.

and i will never understand fans who rationalize shit. if it was happening at bellmont, i would be there with the torches ready to burn everything down. it's up to ohio state alumni to police their own program out of respect for the university itself. holy shit, where's the tylenol?

the only coaches who should have done anything are ones that are required to by their contract. Urban was required. an honest question. what do you believe assistant coaches should do about something like this when their head coach knows about it and the police know about it?

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

I know this is going to sound shocking to Domestic Abuse Apologists, but sometimes the priority of the victim is to GTFO and MOVE ON. Especially if the abuser is a high-profile person. The fact that Zach FuckSmith hasn't been thrown in jail doesn't mean he's innocent. It likely means that he had such a mental hold on Courtney that she prioritized her safety (and likely the safety of her kids) over getting him arrested. FWIW, this happens in more cases than not.

[Walden Ponderer 12639]

8 minutes ago, Orangechipper said:

 

Yep.  Yahoo seems to corroborate that timeline.  Most went down after October 2015 when Herman was out of dodge.  

 

Bomc at it again.  

https://sports.yahoo.com/new-documents-detail-timeline-zach-smiths-alleged-abuse-235056848.html

 

When did Beck and Drayton work there? I am not wishing ill will on either, but it is potentially an important question.

[Machinator 32099]

4 minutes ago, Walden Ponderer said:

When did Beck and Drayton work there? I am not wishing ill will on either, but it is potentially an important question.

Beck was there in the 2015 and 2016 seasons.

Drayton was there from 2012 to 2014.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

6 minutes ago, po elvis said:

the only coaches who should have done anything are ones that are required to by their contract. Urban was required. an honest question. what do you believe assistant coaches should do about something like this when their head coach knows about it and the police know about it?

Fuck yeah, I do. They should have spoken up. How would you feel if this was your daughter?

[hayden_horn 11362]

7 minutes ago, po elvis said:

the only coaches who should have done anything are ones that are required to by their contract. Urban was required. an honest question. what do you believe assistant coaches should do about something like this when their head coach knows about it and the police know about it?

have some personal integrity, and refuse to work on a staff with a wife beater.

does that mean resign? maybe. does that mean make a stink with the head coach to make sure it's reported properly, so that you don't have to work on a staff with a wife beater? maybe. 

but maybe don't knowingly associate yourself with a piece of shit human being. in the end, you are essentially enabling that behavior. 

[Walden Ponderer 12639]

5 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Fuck yeah, I do. They should have spoken up. How would you feel if this was your daughter?

Goddamned right. If you know about it, you speak up.

[Dennis Taylor 18811]

5 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Beck was there in the 2015 and 2016 seasons.

 

if we can't fire him for throwing the ball with the lead and the ball and the opponent being out of timeouts with 2 minutes left,  maybe this information will do the trick

[elnimo 55]

I'm willing to give Herman the benefit of the doubt because it appears that the coach's wives did not know until 2015 based on the reporting so far (not his statement).  But Tim Beck is culpable.  

[po elvis 2070]

8 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Fuck yeah, I do. They should have spoken up. How would you feel if this was your daughter?

spoken up to who? Urban? the police? or do you want them to speak up to the media?

[Gene Parmesan 4004]

7 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

have some personal integrity, and refuse to work on a staff with a wife beater.

does that mean resign? maybe. does that mean make a stink with the head coach to make sure it's reported properly, so that you don't have to work on a staff with a wife beater? maybe. 

but maybe don't knowingly associate yourself with a piece of shit human being. in the end, you are essentially enabling that behavior. 

So you quit your job if a coworker skates on charges and isn't fired?

[Tex Long 4383]

10 minutes ago, UcancallmeSurly said:

... Urb choked on a narcissistic penile reminder that good eventually trumps evil.

 

narcissistic penile reminders is a damned fine name for a band. Mind you, I still prefer Cunt Magnets - short, but mysteriously powerful. By contrast, narcissistic penile reminders has far too many syllables. Cunt Magnets too strong - and more memorable than a mere reminder.

[Orangechipper 15]

... and when it all went down beck was coaching his first month of football for the team.   Not exactly in a position of strength to raise hell.   But yeah.  He’s still culpable it appears.  

[SHOOTER12 8800]

1 hour ago, Zepol87 said:

Disco stop shitty trolling or take a break man. Your shits all fucked up

And regarded, can't forget that.

[Dennis Taylor 18811]

5 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

have some personal integrity, and refuse to work on a staff with a wife beater.

does that mean resign? maybe. does that mean make a stink with the head coach to make sure it's reported properly, so that you don't have to work on a staff with a wife beater? maybe. 

but maybe don't knowingly associate yourself with a piece of shit human being. in the end, you are essentially enabling that behavior. 

the poet Maynard James Keenan eloquently explained this when he said (I'm paraphrasing)

All you know about me is what i sold you, dumb fuck

I sold out long before you ever heard my name 

I sold my soul to coach football, dipshit, and you bought it 

[TBGFL 397]

5 hours ago, LTbear said:

Is it legal to use stuff he recorded without the players' ok?

If any of those took place in Florida and they didn't get the player's ok, it's illegal to release the recordings. Florida is a 2 party state 

Edited August 2, 2018 by TBGFL

[Loco 3752]

4 minutes ago, TBGFL said:

If any of those took place in Florida and they didn't get the player's ok, it's illegal to release the recordings. Florida is a 2 party state 

Well in at least one of the videos, the player was sitting in front of a big ass microphone...  some of the other recordings seemed shady AF. 

[midtown 3345]

8 minutes ago, TBGFL said:

If any of those took place in Florida and they didn't get the player's ok, it's illegal to release the recordings. Florida is a 2 party state 

What if it was in a national park?  

 

[Hornin04 261]

This is pretty amazing, I'm listening to sports radio and across the board Meyer is getting blasted. Just A Week Ago all of these people would be kissing his ass

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Obviously he never thought it would come to this, but why cover up for a WR coach?  He could have just fired him, hired another guy, and continued on with his morality illusion.  Probably would have given more credence to his bullshit value chart. 

Recruiting rainmaker. I can also see Urb’s ego saying “I’m Urb, and if I say the guy is fine and I can control him, then that’s that.”

But I agree with you totally. Monumentally stupid and out of touch, particularly in the direct aftermath of PSU and then Baylor. 

[Neonmoon 38129]

Tim Beck should be fired