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I am curious why anyone thinks we will improve this year? Our best players are gone. OLine will be worse. Our QBs haven't progressed since they set foot on campus. Beck and the bin

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Start watching men's basketball

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Nutty Gruesome Surly Story https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2792085-ufc-fighter-suffers-gruesome-injury-in-accident-with-power-drill Sorry not football related, but definite SURLY Materia

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4 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

I'd be remiss not to mention Reese Moore. Talk about nice feet in drills. That kid is put together like a big, slick tuna fish. With the 2019 crop plus developmental tackles like Moore, Cosmi and Jones, the tackle depth is starting to feel all the more plentiful and robust. Between Moore and Jones, one of those guys will push Urquidez for a spot on the two-deep sooner than later. 


Man I hope Moore and Jones are better the Urquidez.

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13 minutes ago, texifornia said:

They're both incredibly raw though. Give em a year in the weight room and learning the playbook first.

Maybe two.

Texas fans need to get out of this mindset that every player who doesn't play within the first two years of being on campus is a bust. Especially OL and TEs.

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6 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Some of yalls koolaid has been spiked with amnesia juice lol. I used to mainline double digit predictions not this year thank you AA

You can either get on the Koolaid train or the Piss train. I prefer the sweeter drink.

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(Jeff Howe) Practice Report: Overview of Texas defense on first day of camp

AUSTIN, Texas — Tom Herman and the Texas Longhorns were back on the practice field on Friday morning as preseason practice began. There are 29 days remaining until Texas kicks off the second season of the Herman era against Maryland, and Friday provided the media a 20-minute window to get a look at the 2018 Longhorns. The following are some of my observations from watching Todd Orlando and the defense work during the portion of practice open to the media:

— One my biggest questions entering camp was whether or not Caden Sterns could push for the starting safety spot next to Brandon Jones, thus forcing P.J. Locke III to the nickel position and giving the Longhorns what on paper is probably their best combination of starting safeties and nickelback in the base nickel package. Well, that question might have been answered on the first day of camp. For pursuit drill, which is the only time we were able to see the starting 11 on defense lined up together, Sterns was at safety next to Jones with Locke in as the No. 1 nickelback. Obviously, there’s a long way to go until the Maryland game, but the fact that Sterns enters camp as a starter speaks to how much he’s impressed the staff since arriving on campus in January.

— Among the newcomers, the 2018 signee who stood out the most in our limited view of the first day of practice was Joseph Ossai. Listed on the fall roster at 6-feet-4-inches and 245 pounds, the Conroe Oak Ridge product looked every bit of it while running as the No. 2 B-backer behind Malcolm Roach. Even just watching him go through pursuit drill and work on the two-man sled during individual, there’s a natural explosiveness to Ossai that with his frame could make him the long-term answer at B-backer. That’s one of the most critical positions in Orlando’s defense, but the Longhorns wound up utilizing the Joker position in the Lightning package when the B-backer wasn’t giving them the desired level of production.

— Sticking at linebacker, perhaps it’s the emergence of Ossai or the need to manufacture depth that prompted what we saw, which was having Ayodele Adeoye and Jeffrey McCulloch as the inside linebackers on the second unit. What was interesting is it appeared (at least during pursuit drill) that the 250-pound Adeoye was working behind Gary Johnson at the Rover position with McCulloch backing up Wheeler at the Mac. Behind Roach and Ossai at the B-backer was Byron Vaughns. Vaughns is listed on the roster at 225 pounds, but a source told Horns247 recently that Vaughns is closer to 230 pounds.

— There were no changes on the first-team defensive line from the spring. Breckyn Hager, Chris Nelson (who is out of the green non-contact jersey he wore all spring) and Charles Omenihu make up an experienced No. 1 unit for Oscar Giles. Marqez Bimage and Ta’Quon Graham were the ends on the second unit with Gerald Wilbon as the nose tackle. Moro Ojomo is the first newcomer who appeared on the three-deep up front on the first day of practice, working alongside D'Andre Christmas and Jamari Chisholm with the No. 3 group.

— Outside of the Sterns move to the first unit, things stayed much as they did at the end of spring practice. Anthony Cook and Kobe Boyce were the No. 2 cornerbacks with Josh Thompson at the nickel spot, John Bonney at one safety and B.J. Foster at the other. Chris Brown, who initially appeared on the third team, did get some work in Foster’s place on the second unit. Brown’s running mate on the third team was Montrell Estell, who is recovered from a foot injury he suffered during the spring. Veterans Donovan Duvernay and Eric Cuffee were the No. 3 cornerbacks.

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(Chip Brown) Practice Report: Some surprises in offensive depth chart

AUSTIN, Texas - When I asked Tom Herman Thursday what he'd seen from freshman offensive lineman Junior Angilau during summer workouts, heading into camp, Herman smiled and said he'd seen Angilau "run around some cones." Well, coaches must've seen a little more than that, because Angilau was already battling sophomore Tope Imade for second-team reps at right guard in the early periods of his first college practice (when the media was allowed to watch) — behind fifth-year senior Elijah Rodriguez, who ran with the first team.

Strength coach Yancy McKnight said Thursday there's a lot to like about Angilau (6-5, 300). "Junior is a big human who can really move, and he's got a great demeanor," McKnight said. "You watch him in change of direction, he's athletic. He can move."

All eyes are on the offensive line, where new coach Herb Hand is trying to improve perhaps the biggest concern on the team going into fall camp. The first-team offensive line in the early periods of Friday's practice was: Denzel Okafor at left tackle, Patrick Vahe at left guard, Zach Shackelford at center, Rodriguez at right guard and Derek Kerstetter at right tackle. But after that, there seemed to be some messages being sent that everything is up for grabs as freshman Rafiti Ghirmai was getting some second-team reps at left guard, rotating with Patrick Hudson. And freshman Reese Moore was getting some second-team reps, along with J.P. Urquidez. At left tackle, Rice graduate transfer Calvin Anderson got second-team reps, ahead of Sam Cosmi.

In other depth-chart developments and observations on offense, at running back, sophomore Daniel Young was consistently taking first-team reps while Cal graduate transfer Tre Watson was consistently getting second-team reps. After those two, Toneil Carter and Kirk Johnson rotated third-team reps, while freshman Keaontay Ingram and junior Kyle Porter rotated fourth-team reps followed by Tristian Houston.

Even though Watson was in a green No. 5 jersey (because he's still working back from surgery to repair a torn ACL suffered in the second game of last season at Cal), Watson looked quick and caught the football well. All of the backs did a good job of catching the football in passing drills. Kirk Johnson, a fourth-year junior, is so physically developed at 6-feet, 220 pounds, he looks like an NFL body compared to the other backs, and Johnson seemed to be moving well, even though he's got a ways to go to move up the depth chart.

At quarterback, Sam Ehlinger got the first reps with the first-team offense, followed by Shane Buechele and then freshman Cameron Rising, followed by freshman Casey Thompson. All the quarterbacks were accurate in the limited passing drills the media was able to watch. The only significant drop by a receiver came from Lil'Jordan Humphrey (who can get a case of the dropsies in practice from time to time) on a perfectly thrown ball by Cameron Rising on a seam route with no defender.[/SPolier]

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29 minutes ago, satyanash said:

(Chip Brown) Practice Report: Some surprises in offensive depth chart

 

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AUSTIN, Texas - When I asked Tom Herman Thursday what he'd seen from freshman offensive lineman Junior Angilau during summer workouts, heading into camp, Herman smiled and said he'd seen Angilau "run around some cones." Well, coaches must've seen a little more than that, because Angilau was already battling sophomore Tope Imade for second-team reps at right guard in the early periods of his first college practice (when the media was allowed to watch) — behind fifth-year senior Elijah Rodriguez, who ran with the first team.

Strength coach Yancy McKnight said Thursday there's a lot to like about Angilau (6-5, 300). "Junior is a big human who can really move, and he's got a great demeanor," McKnight said. "You watch him in change of direction, he's athletic. He can move."

All eyes are on the offensive line, where new coach Herb Hand is trying to improve perhaps the biggest concern on the team going into fall camp. The first-team offensive line in the early periods of Friday's practice was: Denzel Okafor at left tackle, Patrick Vahe at left guard, Zach Shackelford at center, Rodriguez at right guard and Derek Kerstetter at right tackle. But after that, there seemed to be some messages being sent that everything is up for grabs as freshman Rafiti Ghirmai was getting some second-team reps at left guard, rotating with Patrick Hudson. And freshman Reese Moore was getting some second-team reps, along with J.P. Urquidez. At left tackle, Rice graduate transfer Calvin Anderson got second-team reps, ahead of Sam Cosmi.

In other depth-chart developments and observations on offense, at running back, sophomore Daniel Young was consistently taking first-team reps while Cal graduate transfer Tre Watson was consistently getting second-team reps. After those two, Toneil Carter and Kirk Johnson rotated third-team reps, while freshman Keaontay Ingram and junior Kyle Porter rotated fourth-team reps followed by Tristian Houston.

Even though Watson was in a green No. 5 jersey (because he's still working back from surgery to repair a torn ACL suffered in the second game of last season at Cal), Watson looked quick and caught the football well. All of the backs did a good job of catching the football in passing drills. Kirk Johnson, a fourth-year junior, is so physically developed at 6-feet, 220 pounds, he looks like an NFL body compared to the other backs, and Johnson seemed to be moving well, even though he's got a ways to go to move up the depth chart.

At quarterback, Sam Ehlinger got the first reps with the first-team offense, followed by Shane Buechele and then freshman Cameron Rising, followed by freshman Casey Thompson. All the quarterbacks were accurate in the limited passing drills the media was able to watch. The only significant drop by a receiver came from Lil'Jordan Humphrey (who can get a case of the dropsies in practice from time to time) on a perfectly thrown ball by Cameron Rising on a seam route with no defender.[/SPolier]

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3 hours ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

It’s the first fucking day and people are hand wringing who is “first team” starters? Lol..

its andersons first day and Watson both who will be for sure starters by Maryland. If anything let’s get through fall practice without a shit load of injuries for once.

I was on board the 12 win train until practice reports came out.  Hoping for 5 now. 

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21 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

No they wouldn’t have. Just look at Colt in ‘09.  And Ricky would’ve been just fine behind that line. 

I'd kick my dog in the nuts to have the 2009 line in 2017. You put the 2017 line in 2009 andwe don't even make the CG, imo.

Once Connor went down, shit was bad.. then Shack couldn't snap AND GOT hurt... and we had no TE... last year's line was bad.

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I'd kick my dog in the nuts to have the 2009 line in 2017. You put the 2017 line in 2009 andwe don't even make the CG, imo.
Once Connor went down, shit was bad.. then Shack couldn't snap AND GOT hurt... and we had no TE... last year's line was bad.
Imagine the 2017 line in 2009 trying to keep Colt from getting killed by Suh..*shudders*
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26 minutes ago, Snacks said:

I'd kick my dog in the nuts to have the 2009 line in 2017. You put the 2017 line in 2009 andwe don't even make the CG, imo.

Once Connor went down, shit was bad.. then Shack couldn't snap AND GOT hurt... and we had no TE... last year's line was bad.

You might be right and your point lends an explanation to the offense not being as good as in ‘08. My point is that good QB play can overcome a line in college football, particularly this conference. 

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40 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

You might be right and your point lends an explanation to the offense not being as good as in ‘08. My point is that good QB play can overcome a line in college football, particularly this conference. 

Ricky would have had a good season behind the 09 OL because he’s one of the greatest RB’s to spend time on the 40 acres, and not because the 09 OL was any good at run blocking. They did pass protect well. 

And the offensive falloff from 08-09 had to do with losing a NFL WR and NFL quality third down back to graduation. Also at fault was Gregory Davis once again failing to identify his unit’s strengths prior to the season and literally trotting the exact same offense out as the one we featured in 08 despite those personnel losses. 

We had an elite defense and Colt to Shipley and friends was just enough to get us past our stoutest competition, but as usual the offense wasn’t optimized for our players. People forget ith all the praise heaped upon the albatross for his offensive flexibility that said adeptness was forced on him in the first half of most years because he had so grossly misidentified what the offense should be until someone pantsed us on national tv. 

But I ain’t mad. 

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IT 8/4 practice notes (defense-only):

 

Special thanks to Travis Hlavinka for pinch hitting for Inside Texas in these first few days of practice. Travis is a current student and covered baseball for The Daily Texan this season. Follow him on Twitter @travhlav

1st team:

DL: Breckyn Hager 44

DL: Chris Nelson 97

DL: Charles Omenihu 90

DE: Malcolm Roach 32

LB: Gary Johnson 33

LB: Anthony Wheeler

DB: Kris Boyd 2

DB: Caden Sterns 7

DB: PJ Locke III 11 - nickel

DB: Davante Davis 18

DB: Brandon Jones 19


2nd team:

DL: Marquez Bimage 42

DL:Ta’Quon Graham 49

DL: Gerald Wilbon 94

DE: Undecided

LB: Anthony Wheeler 45

LB: Joseph Ossai 46 (prediction)

LB: Jeffrey McCulloch 23

DB: Anthony Cook 4

DB: Josh Thompson 29

DB: John Bonney 24

DB: Eric Cuffee 26

DB:BJ Foster25


Day started out at a warm 88 degrees with some nice cloud coverage, but much more humidity than yesterday.


DL:The expected 1st team combination of Hager, Nelson, Omenihu and Roach was indeed the first unit of defensive linemen that came out on the day. They were impressive. While Omenihu (6’6”-275) obviously sticks out of a group of guys where he is 3-5 inches taller than everyone else he lines up next to, it is Hager (6’3”-255) that stands out as the most physically impressive. The guy is absolutely yoked. Whatever YancyMcKnight has done to put a significant amount of muscle on Hager over the past year, he needs to do to everyone else. Roach spent time at the line of scrimmage and with the linebackers and looks to be in fairly good shape and moving around well. He is the team’s only “defensive end,” and it’s obvious that the defense becomes a lot more vanilla when he’s not on the field. It does not look like Orlando has found the guy to be his backup yet, but won’t likely run the same scheme with him on the sideline. Bimage, who may have the ability to be the heir apparent to Roach, played Hager’s spot at defensive end today. He looked right in place. Whether he plays full time on the defensive line or a role similar to that of Roach in the future,there’s no question that he has a future somewhere along the defensive front. Graham looks to have made some strides and fits in perfectly behindOmenihu. He will likely take over his spot in 2019. The totality of the defensive ends’ workout that the media got to see was a handful of get-off exercises and some explosion drills into an stationary sled. So there wasn’t a whole lot to take away in terms of power and athleticism. Overall, physically, the defensive line looks like a replica of 2017’s, but with a little more muscle.


LB: While Roach spent some time with the linebackers, Texas’ two permanent LBs may make up the most talented duo on the team. Gary Johnson and Anthony Wheeler are two of the most glaringly impressive guys on a highly-regarded defense. Andthey ran the show. They put on a clinic for the rest of a very young group of linebackers. Wheeler ran with both the 1st and 2ndteams and seemed comfortable every time he was on the field, no matter if it was Johnson or Jeffrey McCulloch next to him. McCulloch is the only surefire backup for likely both and had an up-and down day. In a two-man sled explosion drill, he guessed wrong and got an earful from Todd Orlando. On the next rep, he annihilated the sled and damn near flipped the thing over. The defensive staff was much more vocal than the offensive staff was yesterday, and it seemed to work. At the end of practice, the offense was doing a healthy share of up-downs because it had turned the ball over so many times. My pick to play alongside McCulloch on the 2nd team as we get further into the season is Joseph Ossai. He is already the team’s largest linebacker and has the potential to a very, very good player in the near future.Also to add to expectations, he will be one of two players to don Malik Jefferson’s No. 46. No pressure.


DB: I’m just going to say it right now, the freshmen are as advertised. Caden Sterns got the 1st team reps at safety today and is what you’d expect from a freshman of his caliber. In the press conference post practice, Breckyn Hager said that Sterns is one of those players that is a freshman, but at the same time isn’t one. It shows. He’ll get an opportunity to start from day one. Other than Sterns on the first team, no one particularly stuck out outside of Kris Boyd. Boyd was a vocal leader and had a nearly flawless day, which is what you would expect from a guy that has almost three full years of starting experience going into the season. Back to the freshmen. On the second team, Anthony Cook looks smooth as silk. Cook, who is playing behind Boyd, almost mirrors him in terms of play. Cook, though, may be a better athlete. In the read-and-run drills that I saw the cornerbacks participate in, no one reads, reacts, turns their hips and gets their feet than moving faster than Cook. BJ Foster is the largest (6’2”-210) of the “Big 3,” and looks ready to put the pads on, though he is not quite as technically sound as the other two guys. Some other standouts I saw from a back-pedal drill that the safeties ran were 1. Josh Thompson glided over the field the whole time I watched him. He moves effortlessly and did a great job high-pointing the ball all day. 2. Chris Brown made a really nice one-handed over-the-shoulder grab and looks like he will help in depth this year. 3. DeMarvion Overshown showed phenomenal effort one particular time when laid out completely for a ball overthrown to him. He (6’3”-210), like Sterns has phenomenal size in the defensive backfield and will have an opportunity to see the field if he shows effort like that routinely.While there may not be an absolute answer to who will end the year as the starters in the secondary, the unit should thrive with whoever it puts onto the field. There is talent there currently and even more in the future.

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