These Houthi Sons of Bitches

[High Plains Drifter 11,028]

 

Absolutely worthless human garbage. 

 

(Couldn't find another Houthi thread.)

[atomheartbevo 89,626]

52 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

(Couldn't find another Houthi thread.)

It got folded into the Red Sea patrols (and I'm not sure if they are still doing them or not)

 

[High Plains Drifter 11,028]

@immamac move post/thread if you want. 

 

[Biff Tannen 45,665]

God dammit

[ChiTownDoc 21,142]

They should waterboard anyone they catch, with oil. 

[Da Fino 2,775]

These jabroni’s are going to cause a massive humanitarian catastrophe on their own people. 

[InkaUtexas 25,861]

This conflict ain't new. The humanitarian catastrophe is well known and documented. One of the worse on the globe, gets very little press.

And the Saudis and Emirates are a major reason for that.

 

[staboner 4,969]

yeah what inka said

and now the earth and sea get to suffer more along side them. sigh. 

[BurntEyes 5,958]

7 hours ago, staboner said:

yeah what inka said

and now the earth and sea get to suffer more along side them. sigh. 

It's never ceases to amaze me the wreckless abandon with which man will wreck the environment for military gains in conflict. Whether the gains are perceived or real, no fucks given in regards to the damage short term or long lasting. Agent Orange, always comes to mind along with a couple of bombs dropped on Japan.

Edited August 27 by BurntEyes

[ztejas 43,411]

I need to wait for someone to tell me which ethnic group I should support and who I should be mad at. 

[Armybrat 40,822]

14 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I need to wait for someone to tell me which ethnic group I should support and who I should be mad at. 

Exxon, BP, & Shell.

[crash_davis 23,100]

The sooner we move away from oil, the sooner we can stop giving a shit about that whole region. Their tribal and religious lunacy will keep that region backwards for another 3 hundred years.

[nineliveslost 2,753]

5 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

The sooner we move away from oil, the sooner we can stop giving a shit about that whole region. Their tribal and religious lunacy will keep that region backwards for another 3 hundred years.

thousand

[InkaUtexas 25,861]

44 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Exxon, BP, & Shell.

Why just them? Can we add Ikea, Nike, the EU's imports from Asia? That is the trade route for all that.

[Ghost of LL 15,531]

48 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

The sooner we move away from oil, the sooner we can stop giving a shit about that whole region. Their tribal and religious lunacy will keep that region backwards for another 3 hundred years.

Many years ago, I was on a cruise on a very nice little ship that had a very international passenger list.  I was there, of course.  And there were a bunch of Brits and Germans and a handful of French and Japanese folks.  And among them was this Saudi couple.  

It was a small ship, so everyone socialized and interacted to some greater or lesser degree.  And the Saudis were pretty sociable (which is pretty interesting, given that this was not that long after 9/11), particularly in the cigar lounge after dinner.  I mean, that's where the Saudi gent would go--I have no idea what his wife did.

Anyway, one night we're down in the cigar lounge.  It's me, the Saudi fellow, a couple of Brits, and various other people.  And the Saudi is kind of gently advocating the Saudi view on international relations, which, as I said, was kind of interesting given that it wasn't that long after 9/11.  The Brit is having none of it.  I later learned from another British couple that he was a "proper lord."  I never figured out what would make one an improper lord.  Some of the vagaries of the British social caste system escape me.

In any event, the Saudi is getting more and more frustrated in the discussion, and at some point very loudly expressed his view that Saudi Arabia has one of the highest GDP/capita in the world and merits respect on the world stage.  The British "proper lord," in his very smooth and measured Oxbridge accent replies, "you see, my dear boy, nobody is going to respect you because a hundred years ago, you were herding goats in the desert; and a hundred years from now, you'll be herding goats in the desert."

That's when I--more than mildly intoxicated, I must confess--let out a laugh that was louder than was polite for the size of the room.

The Saudi was pissed, stabbed out his cigar, and stormed out.

 

Happily, he didn't blow up the ship after that.

[Armybrat 40,822]

19 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Many years ago, I was on a cruise on a very nice little ship that had a very international passenger list.  I was there, of course.  And there were a bunch of Brits and Germans and a handful of French and Japanese folks.  And among them was this Saudi couple.  

It was a small ship, so everyone socialized and interacted to some greater or lesser degree.  And the Saudis were pretty sociable (which is pretty interesting, given that this was not that long after 9/11), particularly in the cigar lounge after dinner.  I mean, that's where the Saudi gent would go--I have no idea what his wife did.

Anyway, one night we're down in the cigar lounge.  It's me, the Saudi fellow, a couple of Brits, and various other people.  And the Saudi is kind of gently advocating the Saudi view on international relations, which, as I said, was kind of interesting given that it wasn't that long after 9/11.  The Brit is having none of it.  I later learned from another British couple that he was a "proper lord."  I never figured out what would make one an improper lord.  Some of the vagaries of the British social caste system escape me.

In any event, the Saudi is getting more and more frustrated in the discussion, and at some point very loudly expressed his view that Saudi Arabia has one of the highest GDP/capita in the world and merits respect on the world stage.  The British "proper lord," in his very smooth and measured Oxbridge accent replies, "you see, my dear boy, nobody is going to respect you because a hundred years ago, you were herding goats in the desert; and a hundred years from now, you'll be herding goats in the desert."

That's when I--more than mildly intoxicated, I must confess--let out a laugh that was louder than was polite for the size of the room.

The Saudi was pissed, stabbed out his cigar, and stormed out.

 

Happily, he didn't blow up the ship after that.

Avatar fits rather well for your post.

[Bevo 13,564]

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

I need to wait for someone to tell me which ethnic group I should support and who I should be mad at. 

Houthi bad. Dutch bad. Canadian weird. Kiwi awkward. Estonian good.

[Armybrat 40,822]

8 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Houthi bad. Dutch bad. Canadian weird. Kiwi awkward. Estonian good.

Fuck the Dutch.

[crash_davis 23,100]

2 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Fuck the Dutch.

Why yes, yes I would.

[InkaUtexas 25,861]

1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

Many years ago, I was on a cruise on a very nice little ship that had a very international passenger list.  I was there, of course.  And there were a bunch of Brits and Germans and a handful of French and Japanese folks.  And among them was this Saudi couple.  

It was a small ship, so everyone socialized and interacted to some greater or lesser degree.  And the Saudis were pretty sociable (which is pretty interesting, given that this was not that long after 9/11), particularly in the cigar lounge after dinner.  I mean, that's where the Saudi gent would go--I have no idea what his wife did.

Anyway, one night we're down in the cigar lounge.  It's me, the Saudi fellow, a couple of Brits, and various other people.  And the Saudi is kind of gently advocating the Saudi view on international relations, which, as I said, was kind of interesting given that it wasn't that long after 9/11.  The Brit is having none of it.  I later learned from another British couple that he was a "proper lord."  I never figured out what would make one an improper lord.  Some of the vagaries of the British social caste system escape me.

In any event, the Saudi is getting more and more frustrated in the discussion, and at some point very loudly expressed his view that Saudi Arabia has one of the highest GDP/capita in the world and merits respect on the world stage.  The British "proper lord," in his very smooth and measured Oxbridge accent replies, "you see, my dear boy, nobody is going to respect you because a hundred years ago, you were herding goats in the desert; and a hundred years from now, you'll be herding goats in the desert."

That's when I--more than mildly intoxicated, I must confess--let out a laugh that was louder than was polite for the size of the room.

The Saudi was pissed, stabbed out his cigar, and stormed out.

 

Happily, he didn't blow up the ship after that.

Wait until they corner the market on sand... Oh wait, those fucks have to import sand for construction. Do does the UAE. Their sand even sucks.

But yes, they do think they belong as powers. At least the Saudi's have Mecca. UAE has bunch of fake shit and overpriced everything.

An improper Lord would be one who cannot name his entire legacy back to some Raj. And the Brits can fuck themselves proper. A lot of the tribal animosity discussed on here was caused by their vision of maps. They did great at cartography as long as it divided people, screwed up resource allocation, but allowed for some nice club with a veranda to look out over their empire.

 

[Ghost of LL 15,531]

8 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

And the Brits can fuck themselves proper. A lot of the tribal animosity discussed on here was caused by their vision of maps. They did great at cartography as long as it divided people, screwed up resource allocation, but allowed for some nice club with a veranda to look out over their empire.

 

As someone who has toured much of the old Empire and who has visited many of those delightful clubs with verandas, I think this is a popular, but ungenerous, take.

Many of the overseas dominions and territories once ruled by His Britannic Majesty were previously ruled by some other foreign empire.  The British took over India from the Mughals, who were not indigenous rulers but were instead a Turcic-Mongol dynasty descended from Tamerlane.  They took over Egypt and the Levant from the Ottomans.  And much of Africa they took over from other European powers (e.g., the Dutch in South Africa; the Germans in Tanzania).

You're right that the partition of India was a clusterfuck.  But let's just be real honest about India--that country has a very long history of ethnic and religious strife.  It's hard to foresee a purely peaceful history of 20th Century India even if Lord Curzon had never put pen to paper.

[sasquatch69 596]

3 hours ago, Armybrat said:

Exxon, BP, & Shell.

[InkaUtexas 25,861]

9 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

As someone who has toured much of the old Empire and who has visited many of those delightful clubs with verandas, I think this is a popular, but ungenerous, take.

Many of the overseas dominions and territories once ruled by His Britannic Majesty were previously ruled by some other foreign empire.  The British took over India from the Mughals, who were not indigenous rulers but were instead a Turcic-Mongol dynasty descended from Tamerlane.  They took over Egypt and the Levant from the Ottomans.  And much of Africa they took over from other European powers (e.g., the Dutch in South Africa; the Germans in Tanzania).

You're right that the partition of India was a clusterfuck.  But let's just be real honest about India--that country has a very long history of ethnic and religious strife.  It's hard to foresee a purely peaceful history of 20th Century India even if Lord Curzon had never put pen to paper.

Agree to most of that. But the Brits never modified borders to fix issues (nor did the French). To try and remain on subject. Remember how they split Yemen. That is a fucked up division line. A major reason was to protect Oman, one of the last vestiges of British power in the region (and still there).

I have also spent a lot of my life living in these lands as the unclean colonist allowed to be among them, and most, especially the brick layers from Manchester who gets the dream job in Dubai or the Oxford grad off to save South Sudan from hunger,  never forget their colonizing legacy. I have worked with these dudes and dudettes and also real lords. The Lords tended to be better at trying to understand but there remains the upper lip style to life.

yes, I know how empires come and go. The Ottomans took it from the locals who took it from the Macedonians, who took it from..... There was someone in South Africa before the Dutch. Even then the Dutch did not control the entire modern nation of South Africa. Someone named it the Zambezi and it was not some white European.

[WhatTheBuck 28,775]

11 hours ago, Da Fino said:

These jabroni’s are going to cause a massive humanitarian catastrophe on their own people. 

Yeah, they finally got around to doing that. 

[BurntEyes 5,958]

2 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Why just them? Can we add Ikea, Nike, the EU's imports from Asia? That is the trade route for all that.

Just keep REI inventory out of the mix and I'll support your proposed boycott.

It's all ethically sourced and manufactured after all. Hence the obscene pricing. 

[BurntEyes 5,958]

19 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Agree to most of that. But the Brits never modified borders to fix issues (nor did the French). To try and remain on subject. Remember how they split Yemen. That is a fucked up division line. A major reason was to protect Oman, one of the last vestiges of British power in the region (and still there).

I have also spent a lot of my life living in these lands as the unclean colonist allowed to be among them, and most, especially the brick layers from Manchester who gets the dream job in Dubai or the Oxford grad off to save South Sudan from hunger,  never forget their colonizing legacy. I have worked with these dudes and dudettes and also real lords. The Lords tended to be better at trying to understand but there remains the upper lip style to life.

yes, I know how empires come and go. The Ottomans took it from the locals who took it from the Macedonians, who took it from..... There was someone in South Africa before the Dutch. Even then the Dutch did not control the entire modern nation of South Africa. Someone named it the Zambezi and it was not some white European.

It's always the god damn Dutch!

[InkaUtexas 25,861]

1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

Just keep REI inventory out of the mix and I'll support your proposed boycott.

It's all ethically sourced and manufactured after all. Hence the obscene pricing. 

I never said boycott. But REI would be one of the first. I can get my color coordinated climbing gear from plenty of places.

[orange dream 1,246]

It literally goes with everything and nothing simultaneously.

 

[crash_davis 23,100]

2 minutes ago, orange dream said:

It literally goes with everything and nothing simultaneously.

 

I used the shit out of mine doing 4-5 mile afternoon hikes in Colorado. It's perfect for carrying a couple bottles of water, phone, keys, and wallet. Wearing it around your hip is tons easier and less cumbersome than a backpack.

Edited August 27 by crash_davis

[InkaUtexas 25,861]

I object. Culturally appropriating the Llama/Alpaca is messed up. What if it wants to be a Vicuna?

[BurntEyes 5,958]

18 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

I never said boycott. But REI would be one of the first. I can get my color coordinated climbing gear from plenty of places.

Amusingly enough REI was started by a group of guys looking to acquire climbing gear at a lower cost than the available retailers in Seattle. So, I mean, hypocrite much? 

Also, were the fuck am I supposed to get my Olu Kai shoed without REI?!?!?

Edited August 27 by BurntEyes

[InkaUtexas 25,861]

10 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Amusingly enough REI was started by a group of guys looking to acquire climbing gear at a lower cost than the available retailers in Seattle. So, I mean, hypocrite much? 

Also, were the fuck am I supposed to get my Olu Kai shoed without REI?!?!?

I know. My dad's unit used to love it and buy from there all the time. Same with other few places.

Meh to those shoes. Surly 1% buys those for their landscaper.

[BurntEyes 5,958]

1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

I know. My dad's unit used to love it and buy from there all the time. Same with other few places.

Meh to those shoes. Surly 1% buys those for their landscaper.

Where do you think I get mine?

[Rex Kramer 1,333]

4 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

It's never ceases to amaze me the wreckless abandon with which man will wreck the environment for military gains in conflict. Whether the gains are perceived or real, no fucks given in regards to the damage short term or long lasting. Agent Orange, always comes to mind along with a couple of bombs dropped on Japan.

[Rex Kramer 1,333]

4 hours ago, crash_davis said:

The sooner we move away from oil

[LonghornJones 837]

2 hours ago, Bevo said:

Estonia good.

Pretty sure Linkavich Chomovski is from there.

[956 Worldwide 34,700]

1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

As someone who has toured much of the old Empire and who has visited many of those delightful clubs with verandas, I think this is a popular, but ungenerous, take.

Many of the overseas dominions and territories once ruled by His Britannic Majesty were previously ruled by some other foreign empire.  The British took over India from the Mughals, who were not indigenous rulers but were instead a Turcic-Mongol dynasty descended from Tamerlane.  They took over Egypt and the Levant from the Ottomans.  And much of Africa they took over from other European powers (e.g., the Dutch in South Africa; the Germans in Tanzania).

You're right that the partition of India was a clusterfuck.  But let's just be real honest about India--that country has a very long history of ethnic and religious strife.  It's hard to foresee a purely peaceful history of 20th Century India even if Lord Curzon had never put pen to paper.

I used to love going to the Sind Club in Karachi.  The Pakistani elite would slug gin and tonics in a wood paneled cigar room while their wives at tea sandwiches and they’d tell me how awful the British were. 

[HenryJames 66,037]

[sidis 9,823]

3 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

Many years ago, I was on a cruise on a very nice little ship that had a very international passenger list.  I was there, of course.  And there were a bunch of Brits and Germans and a handful of French and Japanese folks.  And among them was this Saudi couple.  

It was a small ship, so everyone socialized and interacted to some greater or lesser degree.  And the Saudis were pretty sociable (which is pretty interesting, given that this was not that long after 9/11), particularly in the cigar lounge after dinner.  I mean, that's where the Saudi gent would go--I have no idea what his wife did.

Anyway, one night we're down in the cigar lounge.  It's me, the Saudi fellow, a couple of Brits, and various other people.  And the Saudi is kind of gently advocating the Saudi view on international relations, which, as I said, was kind of interesting given that it wasn't that long after 9/11.  The Brit is having none of it.  I later learned from another British couple that he was a "proper lord."  I never figured out what would make one an improper lord.  Some of the vagaries of the British social caste system escape me.

In any event, the Saudi is getting more and more frustrated in the discussion, and at some point very loudly expressed his view that Saudi Arabia has one of the highest GDP/capita in the world and merits respect on the world stage.  The British "proper lord," in his very smooth and measured Oxbridge accent replies, "you see, my dear boy, nobody is going to respect you because a hundred years ago, you were herding goats in the desert; and a hundred years from now, you'll be herding goats in the desert."

That's when I--more than mildly intoxicated, I must confess--let out a laugh that was louder than was polite for the size of the room.

The Saudi was pissed, stabbed out his cigar, and stormed out.

 

Happily, he didn't blow up the ship after that.

line stolen from the movie syriana.

 

[Rex Kramer 1,333]

5 minutes ago, sidis said:

line stolen from the movie syriana.

 

The story sounded like fantastical bullshit anyway. Very much like that movie. 

[RDCanecutter 26,381]

1 hour ago, orange dream said:

It literally goes with everything and nothing simultaneously.

 

I mean sure, if you can't cadge an old gas mask bag.

[Ghost of LL 15,531]

1 hour ago, sidis said:

line stolen from the movie syriana.

 

My story, though, dates from 2002--three years before the movie.

But in neither case is it an original observation.  Stated in various forms, it's a comment made by members of various administrations dating back to Roosevelt.

[Lerka Lerka 1,086]

12 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

Many years ago, I was on a cruise on a very nice little ship that had a very international passenger list.  I was there, of course.  And there were a bunch of Brits and Germans and a handful of French and Japanese folks.  And among them was this Saudi couple.  

It was a small ship, so everyone socialized and interacted to some greater or lesser degree.  And the Saudis were pretty sociable (which is pretty interesting, given that this was not that long after 9/11), particularly in the cigar lounge after dinner.  I mean, that's where the Saudi gent would go--I have no idea what his wife did.

Anyway, one night we're down in the cigar lounge.  It's me, the Saudi fellow, a couple of Brits, and various other people.  And the Saudi is kind of gently advocating the Saudi view on international relations, which, as I said, was kind of interesting given that it wasn't that long after 9/11.  The Brit is having none of it.  I later learned from another British couple that he was a "proper lord."  I never figured out what would make one an improper lord.  Some of the vagaries of the British social caste system escape me.

In any event, the Saudi is getting more and more frustrated in the discussion, and at some point very loudly expressed his view that Saudi Arabia has one of the highest GDP/capita in the world and merits respect on the world stage.  The British "proper lord," in his very smooth and measured Oxbridge accent replies, "you see, my dear boy, nobody is going to respect you because a hundred years ago, you were herding goats in the desert; and a hundred years from now, you'll be herding goats in the desert."

That's when I--more than mildly intoxicated, I must confess--let out a laugh that was louder than was polite for the size of the room.

The Saudi was pissed, stabbed out his cigar, and stormed out.

 

Happily, he didn't blow up the ship after that.

 

10 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

As someone who has toured much of the old Empire and who has visited many of those delightful clubs with verandas, I think this is a popular, but ungenerous, take.

Many of the overseas dominions and territories once ruled by His Britannic Majesty were previously ruled by some other foreign empire.  The British took over India from the Mughals, who were not indigenous rulers but were instead a Turcic-Mongol dynasty descended from Tamerlane.  They took over Egypt and the Levant from the Ottomans.  And much of Africa they took over from other European powers (e.g., the Dutch in South Africa; the Germans in Tanzania).

You're right that the partition of India was a clusterfuck.  But let's just be real honest about India--that country has a very long history of ethnic and religious strife.  It's hard to foresee a purely peaceful history of 20th Century India even if Lord Curzon had never put pen to paper.

Quick, one more and you’ll hit the humble brag post trifecta, all on page 1! Impressive. 

[InkaUtexas 25,861]

17 minutes ago, Lerka Lerka said:

 

Quick, one more and you’ll hit the humble brag post trifecta, all on page 1! Impressive. 

He can't right now. Eating a tiny cucumber sandwich, sipping on Pims, and wondering where in blazes is his pith hat.

[Braff Zacklin 13,552]

9 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Very much like that movie. 

This is the smartest and best thing you've ever written.

There's hope for you yet, Rex! First Syriana, tomorrow, maybe no more dipping on planes.

Edited August 28 by Braff Zacklin

[Ghost of LL 15,531]

9 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

He can't right now. Eating a tiny cucumber sandwich, sipping on Pims, and wondering where in blazes is his pith hat.

I know exactly where my pith helmet is, thank you very much. It’s in my closet where it belongs until the next time I go on safari in Africa.

[InkaUtexas 25,861]

26 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I know exactly where my pith helmet is, thank you very much. It’s in my closet where it belongs until the next time I go on safari in Africa.

Good on ya Bwana. Let me know if you need to borrow one of my Masai spears. Are you and General Gordan taking a jaunt down to the falls?

 

Edited August 28 by InkaUtexas

[RDCanecutter 26,381]

45 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

He can't right now. Eating a tiny cucumber sandwich, sipping on Pims, and wondering where in blazes is his pith hat.

The servants were supposed to fetch it ages ago.

[Ghost of LL 15,531]

1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

Good on ya Bwana. Let me know if you need to borrow one of my Masai spears. Are you and General Gordan taking a jaunt down to the falls?

 

Went there a couple years ago. The Falls really are worth the trip. It’s rare that something exceeds expectations when traveling, but the Falls definitely did.

[InkaUtexas 25,861]

19 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Went there a couple years ago. The Falls really are worth the trip. It’s rare that something exceeds expectations when traveling, but the Falls definitely did.

Gorgeous, but sorry to tell you. Your companion was an improper Lord. General Gordon took Khartoum and had to deal with the numerous falls on the Nile. Foolish Colonial.

BTW, a book I think you would enjoy. A Race to Fashoda.

Back to Yemen. Not only is there a Civil War, Humanitarian Crisis (massive famine, etc), and a testing ground for barely illiterate forces to be given ballistic missiles, they are also a major human smuggling path. 13 went missing off the coast today.