2024 CFB polls/rankings - Texas #3/ #2 /#2 (CFP/AP/Coaches)

[Jkwellborn 6877]

I went to a Friendsgiving event in Nashville yesterday. Lots of Tennessee natives and Grads.
In the conversation the thing I realized is that the 3 best QBs in the nation don't play in the SEC. In fact, the "best" QBs in the SEC are all missing aspects. Milroe, Beck and Quinn struggle under pressure. Quinn can't run, Milroe still runs to often, Dart is hit or miss, ironically, and Beck loves to throw INTs. Of those, Dart is, imo probably most consistent, but there isn't one of them I would personally take over Sanders, Gabriel or Ward. It's a weird year for QBs and particularly weird for the SEC.

Seldom in years past has the best qb play been in the sec. Before it was a run based, defense passed offense. It’s only been the last few years the entire league has made the shift to higher scoring offenses and better qb play.

[Mantis Toboggan, MD 1510]

I agree and it's why I listed him with Sanders and Ward as one of the 3 best that weren't in the SEC. Probably, the best of those. I'm just really glad Venables disagreed with both of us.

Ah, misread your post.

[TrashMaster G 17717]

All you people keep saying we have to win out like it's brand new information.

[hornbri 1464]

yes we need to win out if everything stays chalk, also I just want to win out and win the SEC because we are Texas.

However, It is November and it is college football season, there are going to be upsets and chaos over the next 3 weeks and I bet we would get in at 10-2. It is impossible to map out that chaos so it is easier to just not think about it. 

[WBT 20735]

8 hours ago, cmontexas said:

Boise State's conference is absolute dogshit. They are going to face a horrible Colorado State team that somehow ran their conference slate in the CCG. Giving them the 4 seed ahead of 1 loss BYU or 2 loss Prime U is dumb

It's a good thing that's not going to happen then

[Knoxtnhorn 6164]

Question.  What is the call for the SEC Championship game loser?  Is that team auto in for making and playing in this extra game, or does the committee not consider this accomplishment and extra game when looking at 2-3 other SEC teams that may have 2 losses?  I.E. a 2 loss team now having 3 losses compared to a couple of 2 loss teams that didn't make the championship game.

[Pig Bellmont 8746]

3 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Question.  What is the call for the SEC Championship game loser?  Is that team auto in for making and playing in this extra game, or does the committee not consider this accomplishment and extra game when looking at 2-3 other SEC teams that may have 2 losses?  I.E. a 2 loss team now having 3 losses compared to a couple of 2 loss teams that didn't make the championship game.

I think the SEC Championship loser has to sweat it out. 

[LTtxfan 49404]

2 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I think the SEC Championship loser has to sweat it out. 

Assuming no big injury or getting blown out... 

 

Edited November 17 by LTtxfan

[WBT 20735]

7 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Question.  What is the call for the SEC Championship game loser?  Is that team auto in for making and playing in this extra game, or does the committee not consider this accomplishment and extra game when looking at 2-3 other SEC teams that may have 2 losses?  I.E. a 2 loss team now having 3 losses compared to a couple of 2 loss teams that didn't make the championship game.

Whatever the committee feels like when they wake up that day

[jimmyjazz 46470]

3 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I think the SEC Championship loser has to sweat it out. 

Not if they only have two losses.  (This could only be us, I believe.)

[MonkeyDoughnut 10439]

47 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Question.  What is the call for the SEC Championship game loser?  Is that team auto in for making and playing in this extra game, or does the committee not consider this accomplishment and extra game when looking at 2-3 other SEC teams that may have 2 losses?  I.E. a 2 loss team now having 3 losses compared to a couple of 2 loss teams that didn't make the championship game.

 

39 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Not if they only have two losses.  (This could only be us, I believe.)

Only Texas would get in CFP as SECCG loser if having only 2 loses.

Otherwise, losing team would have 3 loses and would get jumped by the other SEC teams with 2 loses that didn't play in the game. Everything is just too close with few matchups between the top teams to really make anything but loses matter at that point.  SEC likely to get 4 teams in but only teams with 2 or fewer loses. (barring an absolutely chaotic last 2 weeks)

Edited November 17 by MonkeyDoughnut
removed A&M as would be their 3rd loss...as pointed out by others

[BurntOrange&White 40435]

1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

Without more Top 6 SEC upsets or Notre Dame losing another game, Texas likely needs to beat both kentucky and aggy to make the playoffs.  

 

We’re making playoffs with 2 losses. Quit  worrying

[Pato del Muerto 52853]

7 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Texas or Texas A&M would get in CFP as SECCG loser if having only 2 loses.

Explain to me please how a 2 loss aggy can lose the ccg and make the playoffs with 2 losses?

[Lou_Sassle 2942]

8 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

 

Texas or Texas A&M would get in CFP as SECCG loser if having only 2 loses.

Otherwise, losing team would have 3 loses and would get jumped by the other SEC teams with 2 loses that didn't play in the game. Everything is just too close with few matchups between the top teams to really make anything but loses matter at that point.  SEC likely to get 4 teams in but only teams with 2 or fewer loses. (barring an absolutely chaotic last 2 weeks)

Tamu already has 2 losses, so a loss in ccg would give them 3.

[George 493]

4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Explain to me please how a 2 loss aggy can lose the ccg and make the playoffs with 2 losses?

Aggy math, you stupid sip

[heso 2821]

Is the sense that ole miss and bama would both get in over Texas with a loss to A&M based solely on their wins over uga? Because I just don’t see Texas’s resume being the worst of those 3. 

Ole Miss has two bad losses and the LSU loss looks worse every week. And they should absolutely be punished for that non conference schedule. 

And Texas has wins over Kentucky and Vandy who provided 2 of the bama & ole miss losses. 

Edited November 17 by heso

[Horn Dogg 4171]

8 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Explain to me please how a 2 loss aggy can lose the ccg and make the playoffs with 2 losses?

I still don’t really see the point of the CCG in the 12-team playoff world.  But if we’re going to go to the CCG, we may as well win the motherfucker.

[dcar00 14598]

19 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

 

Texas or Texas A&M would get in CFP as SECCG loser if having only 2 loses.

Otherwise, losing team would have 3 loses and would get jumped by the other SEC teams with 2 loses that didn't play in the game. Everything is just too close with few matchups between the top teams to really make anything but loses matter at that point.  SEC likely to get 4 teams in but only teams with 2 or fewer loses. (barring an absolutely chaotic last 2 weeks)

dude losses...

[billfromlaketravis 11601]

I think Oregon is better than Texas, but help me understand these Big Ten honks on the Cover 3 podcast.

Oregon at Wisconsin

- “Oregon controlled the game the whole way.” Dafuq?!

- “Wisconsin had a really good plan to keep everything in front of them. Played redzone roulette.” Nothing on Oregon failing to finish drives. 

- “Gabriel played really well.” Dafuq?!

- Didn’t comment on Lanning’s regarded fake field goal. 
 

- Glossed over Oregon needing an INT on the possible game winning drive from Wisconsin.

- Didn’t mention any competent QB beats Oregon last night. Still the class of college football, blah, blah. 
 

Contrast that with Texas at Arkansas.

- “Arkansas dropped a ton of fluttering throws from Ewers.” I can think of 2. One in the redzone and one on the sideline. They weren’t bad throws but he was late.

- “Texas has no running game.” Well shit guys, I guess you missed the final 7 minutes. Texas can run it when it counts.

- A lot of Ewers sucks talk and speculation on where he’ll transfer. 
 

- “Arkansas played hard but they suck. Texas should have put them away early. Jekyll and Hyde team.” Again, what the fuck? piggy would beat Wisconsin by 10-14 points, but they give Oregon a pass because of their CBS affiliation?! 

[Laxtonto 12635]

So how does Texas go from a ranking of 3 to greater than 12 with just a loss to A&M?

Yeah, there could be some fuckery at foot, but the team that probably should be worried the most is an Tenn 8-2 Tenn. 

My guess is on Tuesday they end up closer to A&M at 15 than to magic line at 12.

[WBT 20735]

1 minute ago, billfromlaketravis said:

piggy would beat Wisconsin by 10-14 points

I don't know about that but I agree with you otherwise.  Texas and Oregon had pretty similar performances yesterday.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10439]

17 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Explain to me please how a 2 loss aggy can lose the ccg and make the playoffs with 2 losses?

 

16 minutes ago, Lou_Sassle said:

Tamu already has 2 losses, so a loss in ccg would give them 3.

 

12 minutes ago, George said:

Aggy math, you stupid sip

 

6 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

dude losses...

lol... yeah my bad

[kevwun 15943]

Wisconsin is bad this year.  Alabama and Iowa beat the shit out of them and the only Big 10 teams they have beaten are all terrible.

Edited November 17 by kevwun

[jimmyjazz 46470]

Again, there don't appear to be any truly great teams this year.  It happens.

[kevwun 15943]

Yeah, I agree that Oregon just had an off game.  It wasn't against a Wisconsin team of old though.

[BigHornedLurker 1988]

8 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

So how does Texas go from a ranking of 3 to greater than 12 with just a loss to A&M?

Yeah, there could be some fuckery at foot, but the team that probably should be worried the most is an Tenn 8-2 Tenn. 

My guess is on Tuesday they end up closer to A&M at 15 than to magic line at 12.

There is no way the committee drops Texas of all teams 10+ spots from one loss .

Take care of business with Kentucky and we are not losing to the sheep fuckers 

[Yesh 932]

I wonder how much advanced statistics could be used by the committee to determine tiebreakers amongst a bunch of 10-2/11-1 SEC and Big Ten teams, rather than trying to argue good or bad losses or whatever.

[satyanash 14769]

2024 Week 12 FWAA-NFF Super 16 Poll

1.     Oregon (52)
2.     Ohio State (2)
3.     Texas
4.     Indiana
5.     Penn State
6.     Alabama
7.     Notre Dame
8.     Georgia
9.     Mississippi
10.     Miami FL
11.     Tennessee
12.     Southern Methodist
13.     Boise State
14.     Brigham Young
15.     Texas A&M
16.     Colorado

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Oregon picked up 52 of 54 first-place votes and remained No. 1 for the fifth consecutive week after a three-point win at Wisconsin. The Ducks are the first team outside of the SEC since Clemson in 2019 to hold the No. 1 spot in the poll for five consecutive weeks. The No. 2 through No. 4 spots remain unchanged after Week 12.

Tennessee fell six slots to No. 11 after suffering a 17-31 loss at Georgia. The Bulldogs advanced three spots to No. 8 by virtue of the win against the Volunteers. BYU dropped seven spots to No. 14 after a four-point loss against Kansas at home.

Clemson fell out of the poll despite a 24-20 victory at Pittsburgh in Week 12 and Colorado joined the poll for the first time this season after defeating Utah 49-24 at home. The No. 16 ranking for Colorado marks the first appearance in the poll for the Buffaloes since claiming the No. 15 spot on Sept. 17, 2023.

The SEC leads all conferences with six teams. The Big Ten has four, followed by the ACC and Big 12 with two each. The Mountain West Conference and FBS Independents have one each.

 

Edited November 17 by satyanash

[dcar00 14598]

5 minutes ago, Yesh said:

I wonder how much advanced statistics could be used by the committee to determine tiebreakers amongst a bunch of 10-2/11-1 SEC and Big Ten teams, rather than trying to argue good or bad losses or whatever.

the committee is a bunch of fucking idiots that love the eye test.  they think SOS is an advanced statistic.

[satyanash 14769]

[jimmyjazz 46470]

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Tennessee fell six slots to No. 11 after suffering a 17-31 loss at Georgia. 

This is the kind of drop I would expect for us (3 -> 9) if we were to lose at A&M.

I also don't see us losing at A&M.

[LTtxfan 49404]

1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I think the SEC Championship loser has to sweat it out. 

Dang...

I have to apologize -- if Texas freakin' loses to aggy (just threw up in my mouth typing this) and then aggy loses in SEC CCG, then yes aggy probably misses out on CFP 😎

[89Horn 1621]

43 minutes ago, Lou_Sassle said:

Tamu already has 2 losses, so a loss in ccg would give them 3.

Talk to any aggy.  They will talk on for hours explaining how those losses were not really losses.  Running out of time and shit.  Alternatively, best three loss team in the nation and should get first round bye over lower tier conference champions.

[randomhorn 1894]

N/M

 

Edited November 17 by randomhorn
Because

[D3zii 3807]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

We’re making playoffs with 2 losses. Quit  worrying

I ain’t go even hold you

who do you put Texas over if everyone has 2 losses?? 
 

Ole Miss - No 

Alabama - No 

UGA - No

Tenn - No 

A&M - No more so cause this is who we lose to. 

One thing the top 4 teams have in common are good wins! Ole Miss has UGA, Bama has UGA, UGA has Texas and Tenn has Bama
 

so they’ll get in off the strength cause they’ll be like who has Texas beaten?!? 
Then A&M would get in over us cause they’ll have beaten us. Now if A&M does make it to the CCG and lose now I think we can get in over them, but I also wouldn’t be surprised to see them give the auto bid to another conference.
 

Like I know we’re all Texas fans but unfortunately Vandy is our best win, maybe Floridas win will look better but they’ll rebuttal DJ didn’t play. We don’t do ourselves any favors by being so inconsistent as well as shitting the bed against Georgia. 
 

We just have to win. But we all know that 

Edited November 17 by D3zii

[Hagbard Celine 10994]

9 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

Yes, assuming the committee plays it straight. I could easily see them swapping the 5 and 6 with a wink and a nod, however. 

manipulating the final rankings to manufacture the bracket "they" want will be a little more difficult then is has been in the past and the vaunted #5 may not end up being goldilox

[BurntEyes 6060]

1 hour ago, TrashMaster G said:

All you people keep saying we have to win out like it's brand new information.

So you're saying there's a chance?

[BurntEyes 6060]

17 minutes ago, 89Horn said:

Talk to any aggy.  They will talk on for hours explaining how those losses were not really losses.  Running out of time and shit.  Alternatively, best three loss team in the nation and should get first round bye over lower tier conference champions.

#science

[BurntEyes 6060]

I may actually bust a schadenfreude nut if IU beats Bucknut... and unlike many/most, I'm pretty confident it's going to happen.

[cmontexas 3306]

1 hour ago, Laxtonto said:

So how does Texas go from a ranking of 3 to greater than 12 with just a loss to A&M?

Yeah, there could be some fuckery at foot, but the team that probably should be worried the most is an Tenn 8-2 Tenn. 

My guess is on Tuesday they end up closer to A&M at 15 than to magic line at 12.

Only the top 9 are guaranteed + ACC, Big 12 and G5 spots

[Pimphand 6047]

Coaches poll out: https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/football/ncaaf/coaches-poll/2024-2025/2024-11-17

Still #3 but Tenn & BYU both fell 7 spots

[satyanash 14769]

Coaches' Poll

1.     Oregon (55)
2.     Ohio State
3.     Texas
4.     Penn State
5.     Indiana
6.     Notre Dame
7.     Alabama
8.     Georgia
9.     Ole Miss
10.     Miami FL
11.     Tennessee
12.     SMU
13.     Boise State
14.     Texas A&M
15.     BYU
16.     Clemson
17.     Army
18.     Colorado
19.     South Carolina
20.     Tulane
21.     Iowa State
22.     Arizona State
23.     UNLV
24.     Memphis
25.     Kansas State

 

[Pimphand 6047]

If you ran the CFP from the coaches poll...

(1) Oregon
(2) Texas
(3) Miami
(4) Boise St

(5) Ohio State v. (12) BYU
(6) Penn State v. (11) Ole Miss
(7) Indiana v. (10) UGA
(8) ND v. (9) BAMA

First Team Out: Tennessee

[Steelers Roll Left 1228]

2 hours ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Question.  What is the call for the SEC Championship game loser?  Is that team auto in for making and playing in this extra game, or does the committee not consider this accomplishment and extra game when looking at 2-3 other SEC teams that may have 2 losses?  I.E. a 2 loss team now having 3 losses compared to a couple of 2 loss teams that didn't make the championship game.

Nothing is certain, but I would lean towards playing in The SEC title game being a disadvantage to the game’s loser given college football’s long history of rewarding team’s that lose early over team’s that lose late.  

[jimmyjazz 46470]

1 hour ago, D3zii said:

I ain’t go even hold you

Are you having a stroke?

[alincoln 2385]

Indiana needs to avoid a big loss against Ohio State

[Huckleberry 33517]

1 minute ago, alincoln said:

Indiana needs to avoid a big loss against Ohio State

Agreed, I think they can do that but if they get walloped by 20+ then they may fall all the way out. Tennessee fell 7 in a competitive 2 score loss to Georgia. BYU fell 7 in a 3 point loss, if the Hoosiers get beat badly they will be down with BYU in the rankings as a one loss team, imo.

[Left Coast 875]

I don’t think both OSU and IU get into the playoff, especially if OSU beats IU. I don’t think IU will be in the playoff without at least one top 25 win.

If IU beats OSU then OSU will need to start sweating.

And Penn St is such a fucking fraud.

 

[dcar00 14598]

6 minutes ago, Left Coast said:

I don’t think both OSU and IU get into the playoff, especially if OSU beats IU. I don’t think IU will be in the playoff without at least one top 25 win.

If IU beats OSU then OSU will need to start sweating.

And Penn St is such a fucking fraud.

 

It would be nice if row the boat could take Penn State out.  Would be helpful if one of the 4 Big Ten teams got dropped.

[TexEx15 17812]

38 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

If you ran the CFP from the coaches poll...

(1) Oregon
(2) Texas
(3) Miami
(4) Boise St

(5) Ohio State v. (12) BYU
(6) Penn State v. (11) Ole Miss
(7) Indiana v. (10) UGA
(8) ND v. (9) BAMA

First Team Out: Tennessee

Boise State would not be 4. It would be the Big12 champ.