2024 CFB polls/rankings - Texas #3/ #2 /#2 (CFP/AP/Coaches)

[ITHorn 906]

1 minute ago, TexEx15 said:

Boise State would not be 4. It would be the Big12 champ.

If Boise is higher than whoever wins the big 12 they are the 4 seed. 

[Wulaw Horn 19230]

2 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Boise State would not be 4. It would be the Big12 champ.

Decent chance Boise ends up above the big 12 champ in the rankings. If they do Boise will be the 4 and the big 12 champ will be 12, probably. 

[Pimphand 6047]

3 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Boise State would not be 4. It would be the Big12 champ.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/bowl-projections-colorado-joins-college-football-playoff-field-boise-state-earns-a-first-round-bye/

[Huckleberry 33516]

late

Edited November 17 by Huckleberry

[billfromlaketravis 11601]

25 minutes ago, alincoln said:

Indiana needs to avoid a big loss against Ohio State

For sure the easiest path to CFP. I’m not saying they’re not good, but they’re likely in with a close loss to the only good team they play all year. And they don’t have to play in the Big Ten championship game. 

[billfromlaketravis 11601]

That missed field goal against LSU is going to haunt South Carolina fan for decades. Best team they’ve had since Spurrier, and they’d win a couple CFP games against Big Ten/ACC/Big 12 schools. Life isn’t fair. 

[LTtxfan 49403]

3 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

That missed field goal against LSU is going to haunt South Carolina fan for decades. Best team they’ve had since Spurrier, and they’d win a couple CFP games against Big Ten/ACC/Big 12 schools. Life isn’t fair. 

Wouldn't mind seeing cocks beating clemson in a few weeks...

[Bozo_Casanova 26669]

8 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Wouldn't mind seeing cocks beating clemson in a few weeks...

You like watching cock beating, do you?

[BurntEyes 6060]

2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Again, there don't appear to be any truly great teams this year.  It happens.

I keep saying it and nobody listens, but IU has been the most consistent team all year. 

True they haven't played a tough schedule but they've, for the most part, been curb stomping all in their path. (Single exception being a crappy Michigan team)

[Pimphand 6047]

The two upsets I want from other conferences is Miami losing in Syracuse and BYU losing in Tempe.

Unfortunately Pedo State is probably in the best spot with not having to play in the B10 title while having easy games left and a high enough poll position to get seeded higher than all the SEC non champs.

[BurntEyes 6060]

7 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

You like watching cock beating, do you?

I mean... I like watching something while beating my own cock so who are we to judge? 

[Lou_Sassle 2942]

If both Army and Boise win out, do they both get in? Army would be undefeated with a win over Notre Dame in that scenario, and Boise would most likely still be in the top 11.

[UTexasFight 9603]

https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll
 

ole Miss gon be mad 

[Horn of Gabriel 1862]

People thinking a 2-loss Texas because "brand" is a shoe-in need to step back.  In the 2-loss scenario where we lose to aggy, these are our comparables in the SEC:

10-2 aggy,  who would own H2H vs. Texas AND stronger SOS AND is a big brand in terms of TV viewership (not as big as Texas but not so big to make a difference when they own H2H)

10-2 UGA, who would own H2H vs. Texas AND stronger SOS AND top 25 wins vs. (16) Clemson, (11) Tennessee, AND is a 5* brand just like Texas

10-2 Tenn, whose SOS > Texas SOS AND has top 25 win vs. (7) Bama AND is a big brand

10-2 Bama, whose SOS > Texas SOS AND has top 25 win vs. (8) UGA AND is a big brand

10-2 Ole Miss, whose SOS > Texas SOS AND has top 25 win vs. (8) UGA

vs.

10-2 Texas, who has the lowest SOS of the group and zero top 25 wins and in this scenario has taken the latest regular-season loss (and if that loss is to aggy won't have the chance to redeem it in the SECCG).  We are a big brand though.

...SEC isn't getting 6 into the CFP.  Probably not five.  Who are the 2 you're leaving out of the list to put in Texas, if we lose to aggy?  In that scenario aggy and probably Bama play the SECCG so they're probably in.  2 more spots.  UGA gets one with the next-best resume.  1 spot left for Texas, Tenn, Ole Miss.  I guess we could squeak over Ole Miss, barely?

[The Dog 44180]

We have no business being in the playoffs is we lose to aggy.

[Reynolds Woodcock 4876]

2 minutes ago, The Dog said:

We have no business being in the playoffs is we lose to aggy.

The is true. I doubt we hear much real complaining from Texas fans if we lose to A&M and get left out of the playoff. If you lose to the only top 25 teams you play, more often than not you don’t deserve to be in. 

[BurntEyes 6060]

There's another odd dynamic that exists in polling beyond what @Horn of Gabriel spelled out above. They hate to be wrong, talking heads hate to be wrong, haters love to hate, and there's always those that love jumping on whatever bandwagon happens to be rolling around.

So those that have been supporting Texas as a NC team, those hating on Texas sos, those that were voting Texas top 5, those that love a bandwagon could all take a late season loss to a not great aggie squad as the reason to leash the hate hounds. Sure, there well be a handful on contrary mofos that still support Texas, but they'll be the exception.

It happened to FSU last year post Louisville, rightfully so. Texas loses to aggie late... I think the wheels roll, guillotines come out and Texas is lead to the slaughter. We don't win both Kentucky and aggie, I can't see Texas making the playoffs. For the logic reason Gabriel spelled out and frankly haters gonna hate. Texas is a brand like a few others that have that sort of national brand. On or off the bus, but it's binary. 

[dcar00 14598]

so like conf tourneys in basketball are we saying the committee isn't going to care about losses in the conf champ games?  

If aggy beats us and loses in conf champ game to say bama what happens?

[BurntEyes 6060]

5 minutes ago, The Dog said:

We have no business being in the playoffs is we lose to aggy.

And this! If we can't beat aggie we ain't wining the fucking 1st prize anyway. Save me some cash and let's pack it in.

[BurntEyes 6060]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

so like conf tourneys in basketball are we saying the committee isn't going to care about losses in the conf champ games?  

If aggy beats us and loses in conf champ game to say bama what happens?

Who gives a shit, cause Texas is out. 

[Huckleberry 33516]

9 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

so like conf tourneys in basketball are we saying the committee isn't going to care about losses in the conf champ games?  

If aggy beats us and loses in conf champ game to say bama what happens?

No the football committee has always talked about CCGs as an important 13th data point as they like to call it. They definitely matter. 

But if A&M loses there that's their 3rd loss against only one ranked win (Texas in that scenario). They're out if they lose again at any point. 

[blutow 238]

9 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

People thinking a 2-loss Texas because "brand" is a shoe-in need to step back.  In the 2-loss scenario where we lose to aggy, these are our comparables in the SEC:

Yep, and even if we beat aggy and go to CCG and lose, I don't think a playoff spot is guaranteed (depending on who we play and how the game plays out).  Our SOS is so crappy this year that it's going to be a tough argument against other 2 loss teams.  I believe the committee has said they don't want to penalize teams for losing in CCG's, but at some point the body of work has to matter.  With OU and Michigan sucking so bad this year, it's got to hurt our chances if we end up in a 2-loss showdown and there aren't enough chairs left to get 4+ SEC teams in.  I think we'd jump Tenn if it came down to it and maybe Old Miss, but I wouldn't count on either of those. 

[dcar00 14598]

2 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

No the football committee has always talked about CCGs as an important 13th data point as they like to call it. They definitely matter. 

But if A&M loses there that's their 3rd loss against only one ranked win (Texas in that scenario). They're out if they lose again at any point. 

that is what I think and we would still have a better SOS than Ole Miss who has losses to shitty LSU and shitty Kentucky.

[TexEx15 17811]

Thanks for the multiple folks that squared me away on Boise vs Big12. I did not know that.

[dcar00 14598]

1 minute ago, blutow said:

Yep, and even if we beat aggy and go to CCG and lose, I don't think a playoff spot is guaranteed (depending on who we play and how the game plays out).  Our SOS is so crappy this year that it's going to be a tough argument against other 2 loss teams.  I believe the committee has said they don't want to penalize teams for losing in CCG's, but at some point the body of work has to matter.  With OU and Michigan sucking so bad this year, it's got to hurt our chances if we end up in a 2-loss showdown and there aren't enough chairs left to get 4+ SEC teams in.  I think we'd jump Tenn if it came down to it and maybe Old Miss, but I wouldn't count on either of those. 

if we beat aggy we are in.

[AeroHorn 781]

17 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

The is true. I doubt we hear much real complaining from Texas fans if we lose to A&M and get left out of the playoff. If you lose to the only top 25 teams you play, more often than not you don’t deserve to be in. 

My hope is that we win out, A&M loses to Auburn and us dropping out of top 25, and we beat whoever makes it to CC making them also drop out of top 25, thereby making it to playoffs without any top 25 wins.

[LonghornSean 4036]

 

[TrashMaster G 17716]

1 hour ago, Steelers Roll Left said:

Nothing is certain, but I would lean towards playing in The SEC title game being a disadvantage to the game’s loser given college football’s long history of rewarding team’s that lose early over team’s that lose late.  

*teams

*teams

[blutow 238]

3 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

if we beat aggy we are in.

Most likely, but I don't think it's guaranteed.  If we got blown out by Bama in the CCG, it would certainly be a discussion between us and Tenn.  Recency bias (and eye test) has always played a big role with people making the decisions.  If it's 4+ payoff spots for SEC, I think we're in even with a bad loss in CCG.  3 SEC spots and I think there is risk.  If we lose close in CCG, we're probably in regardless of spots available. 

And we obviously need to win the next 2, hopefully passing the eye test while we're doing it.  If we end up in CCG and losing, eye test in last few games (for all 2 loss teams) will probably be bigger factor than SOS and other "measurables".      

[hornbri 1464]

46 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

People thinking a 2-loss Texas because "brand" is a shoe-in need to step back.  In the 2-loss scenario where we lose to aggy, these are our comparables in the SEC:

10-2 aggy,  who would own H2H vs. Texas AND stronger SOS AND is a big brand in terms of TV viewership (not as big as Texas but not so big to make a difference when they own H2H)

10-2 UGA, who would own H2H vs. Texas AND stronger SOS AND top 25 wins vs. (16) Clemson, (11) Tennessee, AND is a 5* brand just like Texas

10-2 Tenn, whose SOS > Texas SOS AND has top 25 win vs. (7) Bama AND is a big brand

10-2 Bama, whose SOS > Texas SOS AND has top 25 win vs. (8) UGA AND is a big brand

10-2 Ole Miss, whose SOS > Texas SOS AND has top 25 win vs. (8) UGA

vs.

10-2 Texas, who has the lowest SOS of the group and zero top 25 wins and in this scenario has taken the latest regular-season loss (and if that loss is to aggy won't have the chance to redeem it in the SECCG).  We are a big brand though.

...SEC isn't getting 6 into the CFP.  Probably not five.  Who are the 2 you're leaving out of the list to put in Texas, if we lose to aggy?  In that scenario aggy and probably Bama play the SECCG so they're probably in.  2 more spots.  UGA gets one with the next-best resume.  1 spot left for Texas, Tenn, Ole Miss.  I guess we could squeak over Ole Miss, barely?

I don’t think it is because of brand. I think it is because a combination of other upsets are still going to happen. 

One of those teams you listed is going to have a 3rd loss in the CCG, i think it is safe to assume that loss is going to hurt you. 

A&M is only  -2.5 @ auburn this weekend

Bama and ole miss both have 2 conference games left in the mighty SEC we know what can happen.

I think we are in even if we lose to A&M because we will end up dropping ~5 spots for losing to a ranked opponent on the road in an intense rivalry game plus a combination of TBD upsets. 

 

Edited November 17 by hornbri

[LonghornSean 4036]

A couple #2 votes, mostly #3, a handful at #4, then some outliers at #5, 6, and 8.

https://collegepolltracker.com/football/team/texas-longhorns/2024

https://collegepolltracker.com/football/distribution/2024/week-13

Edited November 17 by LonghornSean

[LTtxfan 49403]

Others receiving votes: Missouri 56, Memphis 38, Kansas St. 36, Syracuse 21, Louisville 15, Pittsburgh 6, LSU 6, Louisiana 5, Vanderbilt 4, Colorado St. 2, Duke 2, James Madison 2, Georgia Tech 1

 

[dcar00 14598]

8 minutes ago, blutow said:

Most likely, but I don't think it's guaranteed.  If we got blown out by Bama in the CCG, it would certainly be a discussion between us and Tenn.  Recency bias (and eye test) has always played a big role with people making the decisions.  If it's 4+ payoff spots for SEC, I think we're in even with a bad loss in CCG.  3 SEC spots and I think there is risk.  If we lose close in CCG, we're probably in regardless of spots available. 

And we obviously need to win the next 2, hopefully passing the eye test while we're doing it.  If we end up in CCG and losing, eye test in last few games (for all 2 loss teams) will probably be bigger factor than SOS and other "measurables".      

barring a ridiculous number of upsets down the stretch the SEC is getting 4 at least.

[jimmyjazz 46470]

I find it hard to believe a Texas team that enters the SEC CCG at 11-1, probably ranked #3, and loses is out of the playoff altogether.  The two teams in that CCG are ostensibly the top two teams in the conference.

[EuroHorn 3276]

33 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

that is what I think and we would still have a better SOS than Ole Miss who has losses to shitty LSU and shitty Kentucky.

Let’s not forget about Kentucky. They could beat us next Saturday.  It’s not a slam dunk win 

[UpperWestside 6215]

So if my soon to be alma mater of ASU wins out they will be in the playoffs. BYU travels to Tempe this coming week. Should be a fun game.

[runthebone 8131]

3 minutes ago, EuroHorn said:

Let’s not forget about Kentucky. They could beat us next Saturday.  It’s not a slam dunk win 

Yes it is

[CycleTex87 2991]

Y’all quit your talking about losing to aggy.  That game will be war.  The D will bring it. 

[Huckleberry 33516]

6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I find it hard to believe a Texas team that enters the SEC CCG at 11-1, probably ranked #3, and loses is out of the playoff altogether.  The two teams in that CCG are ostensibly the top two teams in the conference.

Yes, if Texas wins on the road at A&M then loses the next week there's no way they are dropped behind enough two loss teams not to make it.

[Hagbard Celine 10994]

1 hour ago, TexEx15 said:

Boise State would not be 4. It would be the Big12 champ.

 i would not put it past the committee to do that to get the bracket they want especially if it reduces the number of games a zero-ratings school could potentially play

[dcar00 14598]

2 minutes ago, EuroHorn said:

Let’s not forget about Kentucky. They could beat us next Saturday.  It’s not a slam dunk win 

sure.  Kentucky ostensibly has had 3 weeks to prepare for us.  Auburn plays aggie at home.  either of these could be an upset.  Kentucky's O is not good against any D with a pulse. It would be nice if our O really showed up.  Would be good to have one of those patented late season Stoops blowouts of Tech or OSU.

one thing we need to do is put one of our OOC games in Nov.

[blutow 238]

28 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The two teams in that CCG are ostensibly the top two teams in the conference.

Good way to phrase it, similar to aggy ostensibly being first place (tied) in said conference.  I don't think either is the case and many teams have been knocked down after losing a CCG historically.  In the eye's of many, Texas has lost it's only tough game.  As much as I'd like to see aggy drop to auburn next week, they really need to be ranked as high as possible when we play them to help our case if we end up losing in the CCG (plus, it's much sweeter to be the team to crush their dreams).  An aggy loss to Auburn doesn't help Texas in any way other than maybe recruiting.  If aggy lost to auburn and then us, we'd have zero top 25 wins at the end of the season if we then lost in the CCG.  Again, I like our chances as long as we win the next 2, but I'd rather have as much ammo as possible if we end up in a beauty contest across 2 loss SEC teams. 

Edited November 17 by blutow
typo

[justhookit 4191]

27 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I find it hard to believe a Texas team that enters the SEC CCG at 11-1, probably ranked #3, and loses is out of the playoff altogether.  The two teams in that CCG are ostensibly the top two teams in the conference.

It’s hard for you to believe because the people discussing that scenario are idoits. The only possible way we miss the playoffs with 2 losses is if our other loss is to Kentucky or aggy.

[LTtxfan 49403]

1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

There's another odd dynamic that exists in polling beyond what @Horn of Gabriel spelled out above. They hate to be wrong, talking heads hate to be wrong, haters love to hate, and there's always those that love jumping on whatever bandwagon happens to be rolling around.

So those that have been supporting Texas as a NC team, those hating on Texas sos, those that were voting Texas top 5, those that love a bandwagon could all take a late season loss to a not great aggie squad as the reason to leash the hate hounds. Sure, there well be a handful on contrary mofos that still support Texas, but they'll be the exception.

It happened to FSU last year post Louisville, rightfully so. Texas loses to aggie late... I think the wheels roll, guillotines come out and Texas is lead to the slaughter. We don't win both Kentucky and aggie, I can't see Texas making the playoffs. For the logic reason Gabriel spelled out and frankly haters gonna hate. Texas is a brand like a few others that have that sort of national brand. On or off the bus, but it's binary. 

Yeah, lots of media narratives that Texas is overrated and better beat Kentucky & aggy.

Galloway being a bitch about Texas @30:30

ESPN College Football Final | Reaction CFB Week 12: Georgia take down Tennessee; Colorado crush Utah

[Hagbard Celine 10994]

all of the talk about backing in regardless of how should is bad karma

[Tex Long 4509]

6 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

I agree and it's why I listed him with Sanders and Ward as one of the 3 best that weren't in the SEC. Probably, the best of those. I'm just really glad Venables disagreed with both of us.

I missed the "real" explanation. Did Venables tell Gabriel to  take a hike, or did Gabriel tell Venables to suck it?

 

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

You like watching cock beating, do you?

You sound like someone who's never been to Tojo Nunnally's Coal Yard on a Friday night.

[Cairn Horn88 8432]

[Pimphand 6047]

55 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I find it hard to believe a Texas team that enters the SEC CCG at 11-1, probably ranked #3, and loses is out of the playoff altogether.  The two teams in that CCG are ostensibly the top two teams in the conference.

I don't think anyone expects an 11-2 Texas to not make it. Its the 10-2 Texas that whiffs on the playoffs.

[dcar00 14598]

8 minutes ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

it is hilarious that PSU, IU, and ND are 4,5,6.   considering the SOS of those teams is 46,67,77.  Good to see AP poll is still all about # of losses and logos.  ND lost to fucking NIU AT HOME.

Edited November 17 by dcar00

[D3zii 3807]

2 hours ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

People thinking a 2-loss Texas because "brand" is a shoe-in need to step back.  In the 2-loss scenario where we lose to aggy, these are our comparables in the SEC:

10-2 aggy,  who would own H2H vs. Texas AND stronger SOS AND is a big brand in terms of TV viewership (not as big as Texas but not so big to make a difference when they own H2H)

10-2 UGA, who would own H2H vs. Texas AND stronger SOS AND top 25 wins vs. (16) Clemson, (11) Tennessee, AND is a 5* brand just like Texas

10-2 Tenn, whose SOS > Texas SOS AND has top 25 win vs. (7) Bama AND is a big brand

10-2 Bama, whose SOS > Texas SOS AND has top 25 win vs. (8) UGA AND is a big brand

10-2 Ole Miss, whose SOS > Texas SOS AND has top 25 win vs. (8) UGA

vs.

10-2 Texas, who has the lowest SOS of the group and zero top 25 wins and in this scenario has taken the latest regular-season loss (and if that loss is to aggy won't have the chance to redeem it in the SECCG).  We are a big brand though.

...SEC isn't getting 6 into the CFP.  Probably not five.  Who are the 2 you're leaving out of the list to put in Texas, if we lose to aggy?  In that scenario aggy and probably Bama play the SECCG so they're probably in.  2 more spots.  UGA gets one with the next-best resume.  1 spot left for Texas, Tenn, Ole Miss.  I guess we could squeak over Ole Miss, barely?

 

 

They won’t put us in over Ole Miss who handled UGA