2024 CFB polls/rankings - Texas #3/ #3 /#3 (CFP/AP/Coaches)

[closetojumping 62817]

1 hour ago, 'stache said:

JFC, you guys are a broken record with alternative facts. Every Big XII team has at least one P4 non-con on their schedule these days (UH and Tech playing Oregon State being the only realignment related exception). Nobody is doing the Bill Snyder schedule anymore and haven't for more than a decade. Of course, some matchups are way better than others, but they aren't all G6 and FCS. Here's are the Big XII P4 noncon matchups for next year:

KSU @ Arizona (pre-realignment noncon)

ASU @ Miss St.

Auburn @ Baylor

Baylor @ SMU

Stanford @ BYU

Cincy v. Nebraska

GT @ Colorado

UH @ Oregon State (non P4 anymore but still good)

ISU v. Iowa

KU @ Mizzou

TCU @ UNC

SMU @ TCU

OKST @ Oregon (FUCK!)

Tech v. Oregon State (see UH above)

UCF v. UNC

Utah @ UCLA

Pitt @ WVU

No shit you guys mostly have one P4 scheduled. Credit to WVU for having two in multiple future seasons. The issue is that the Big 12 cannot afford to keep scheduling FCS teams while having only one or less P4 teams in the OOC. They're not going to get the benefit of the doubt the way the SEC does when it comes to the cupcake. They need to be boosting their resumes with the OOC talking points.

It's natural we'd only be discussing the Big 12 here given the history for posters here, but everything I'm arguing is true also for the ACC. 

16 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

Yup. Gonna be a lot of angry SEC fans .

Another round of chaos this weekend could lead to the playoffs getting totally neutered if some of these bubble teams lose again and school like Tulane and other mids sneak in 

 

My hope is that the SEC gets served a giant shit sandwich this year and every year forward. The majority of the SEC fans are mouthbreathing rubes and the media fellatio given to the SEC has always been sickening. Texas showing up and mostly rolling through the "grind" should shut a lot of the nonsense up, but it hasn't. "They're all cannibalizing each other!" Sure. Or, most of the teams are mediocre and should not be getting the benefit of the doubt. Don't lose home games to Kentucky. Don't get blown out by OU. Maybe win the gimme against Arkansas or Vanderbilt or Florida.

[Drew 2517]

On 11/24/2024 at 4:52 PM, Dutchrudder said:

Notre Dames SOS is very weak. Their best wins are A&M and Army, neither of which are playoff teams. Army has played zero good teams. If ND lost a conference championship game in 2 weeks, they could be left out, but alas they don't have the burden of a CCG and instead benefit from a cupcake schedule every year. 

They're in as long as they win their last game.  Never a given, but ND has been playing really well.  Probably more dangerous than we want to give them.

On 11/24/2024 at 9:10 PM, Hermanator said:

Should go back to a BCS style but updated algorithm that takes into account strength of schedule. 

The Big 10 and SEC champion get auto bid. The best ranked next 2 conference champions get the final 2 auto bids. 

Then go down the line starting at 1 to fill in the rest. 

That's the way it should be, but will never happen because CFB doesn't want to give away it's power to make matchups for TV ratings. 

As long as the auto bids don't lead to auto seeds.  The idea that the Top 4 conference Champs automatically get the Top 4 seeds is silly in College football.  It's not the NFL with equal scheduling.

There is no reason an 8th ranked Miami and 10-11th ranked Big 12 or Boise should be the 3 and 4 seed.

19 hours ago, The Dog said:

???????

would much rather face the Clemson/Penn St winner than what looks like to me, a good ND team(i know they lost to NIU).

Also Kanell has such an SEC bias it isn't funny.  He's on a podcast i listen to and he did nothing be tear apart Texas' schedule and the way the offense has been the last 5 weeks or so.

Ignored the Texas Defense being dominant or literally beating 3 teams in a row that have beaten top playoff contenders.

2 hours ago, Chopper said:

fwiw

I just do not see the ACC title game loser getting in.

I think if Clemson beats SCAR they could get in...but either Miami or SMU(especially SMU unfortunately) would be left out and i bet either Clemson/SCAR winner or Bama would take that spot.

[satyanash 14619]

['stache 21858]

I just don't think they can "punish" SMU for losing the CCG. If they play Miami and lose then either Miami is the lone ACC team, or Miami and SMU are both in, they can't just let Clemson leapfrog SMU in that scenario. Otherwise, they are confirming all of the concerns that CCG's can be a negative with more risk than reward. They are trying desparately to avoid that perception.

Edited 2 hours ago by 'stache

[Js1 85560]

Just now, 'stache said:

I just don't think they can "punish" SMU for losing the CCG. If they play Miami and lose then either Miami is the lone ACC team, or Miami and SMU are both in, they can't just let Clemson leapfrom SMU in that scenario. Otherwise, they are confirming all of the concerns that CCG's are a negative and come with more risk than reward. They are trying desparately to avoid that perception.

The only way SMU gets punished for losing the CCG is if they lose 59-0 or something. 

[VABuckeye 2472]

I want SMU to win and this stupid Miami chatter to go away.  Same with Clemson.

[jimmyjazz 46116]

48 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

My hope is that the SEC gets served a giant shit sandwich this year and every year forward. The majority of the SEC fans are mouthbreathing rubes and the media fellatio given to the SEC has always been sickening. Texas showing up and mostly rolling through the "grind" should shut a lot of the nonsense up, but it hasn't. "They're all cannibalizing each other!" Sure. Or, most of the teams are mediocre and should not be getting the benefit of the doubt. Don't lose home games to Kentucky. Don't get blown out by OU. Maybe win the gimme against Arkansas or Vanderbilt or Florida.

Preach.

[Hagbard Celine 10916]

re: the rig getting left out, i can't remember who posted this and in what thread but i saved it because if this comes to pass supposedly it's rape & tceh in the rig final guaranteeing a 4-loss yormark trophy:

['stache 21858]

1 minute ago, Hagbard Celine said:

re: the rig getting left out, i can't remember who posted this and in what thread but i saved it because if this comes to pass supposedly it's rape & tceh in the rig final guaranteeing a 4-loss yormark trophy:

Each result individually is plausible, but all of them happening together seems really, really unlikely. It would be absolutely nuts if it happened though, lol.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18565]

3 hours ago, 'stache said:

JFC, you guys are a broken record with alternative facts. Every Big XII team has at least one P4 non-con on their schedule these days (UH and Tech playing Oregon State being the only realignment related exception). Nobody is doing the Bill Snyder schedule anymore and haven't for more than a decade. Of course, some matchups are way better than others, but they aren't all G6 and FCS. Here's are the Big XII P4 noncon matchups for next year:

KSU @ Arizona (pre-realignment noncon)

ASU @ Miss St.

Auburn @ Baylor

Baylor @ SMU

Stanford @ BYU

Cincy v. Nebraska

GT @ Colorado

UH @ Oregon State (non P4 anymore but still good)

ISU v. Iowa

KU @ Mizzou

TCU @ UNC

SMU @ TCU

OKST @ Oregon (FUCK!)

Tech v. Oregon State (see UH above)

UCF v. UNC

Utah @ UCLA

Pitt @ WVU

At least one P4 non-conference game? More like, EXACTLY one P4 non-conference game, and then a bunch of glorified scrimmages. And outside of Oregon, who on that list will be even ranked in the top 25 next year? There aren't exactly a ton of top programs on that slate. I don't care how good of a year SMU is having, you don't get to point to them as strong scheduling when those matches were made when they were in the AAC. You should be playing Oklahoma this Saturday for the love of God. 

['stache 21858]

31 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

At least one P4 non-conference game? More like, EXACTLY one P4 non-conference game, and then a bunch of glorified scrimmages. And outside of Oregon, who on that list will be even ranked in the top 25 next year? There aren't exactly a ton of top programs on that slate. I don't care how good of a year SMU is having, you don't get to point to them as strong scheduling when those matches were made when they were in the AAC. You should be playing Oklahoma this Saturday for the love of God. 

With 4 non-cons to play with, 13 of the 16 SEC schools play only one P4 non-con game in 2025: Arky (v. ND); Auburn (v. Baylor); UGA (v. GT); UK (v Lou); LSU (v. Clemson); MSU (v. Ariz. St.); Mizzou (v. KU); OU (v. Mich);  Ole Miss (v. Wash St); Tenn (v. Syracuse in ATL); UT (v. Ohio State); Aggy (v. ND); Vandy (v. VT)

Granted, some of them are helmet school matchups that the Big XII won't get, because we don't have any helmet schools left: Bama-FSU; LSU-Clemson; OU-Mich; UT-Ohio St.

Some non-helmet schools have good matchups: Arky-ND; UF-FSU & Miami; South Carolina-Clemson & VT; Aggy-ND.

Every SEC school but Texas has an FCS opponent.

The SEC is better than the Big XII by every metric, including more big time non-con matchups. I just have to always push back on the notion that the Big XII schedules nothing but scrimages in the non-con and are somehow unique. The 9 game conference schedule is also a factor as shown above with the conference strength of schedule metric.

Edited 12 minutes ago by 'stache