2024 CFB polls/rankings - Texas #3/ #4 /#4 (CFP/AP/Coaches)

[Hookem10 851]

8 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

That's not at all what I heard in the SEC round up at the end of last night and they all had Texas in the top 5 one of them, iirc, above Georgia. 

Fuck sake this place is going full Texags with media conspiracy theories and "Trust in Sark" and zero critical thinking. God damn.

Texas wins out, Texas is in the playoffs. Find me one, single, talking head that disagrees. Post a video. Enlighten me.

The scenario I’m talking about is if we lose one more and don’t make sec championship. Perception will matter when 8 big 10 and sec teams are vying for 4 spots. And yes if we win out we’re sec champs and in 

[ztejas 44114]

SMU gets some respect finally.

Sorry Pitt.

[satyanash 15355]

Playoffs based on this week's AP Poll (how the hell do we keep ending up against Kalen DeBoer in the postseason?)

Edited November 3 by satyanash

[BurntEyes 6199]

37 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

The scenario I’m talking about is if we lose one more and don’t make sec championship. Perception will matter when 8 big 10 and sec teams are vying for 4 spots. And yes if we win out we’re sec champs and in 

[RandomIdoit 739]

2 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

pending results for the next month, a top-4 seed could go to a P4 champion ranked 5 or lower by the committee

I know, which is why they should have BYU as the 4th seed because that would be their actual playoff seed as of today.

[Gen. Applewhite 227]

3 hours ago, Hookem10 said:

If Alabama […] beat vandy the same way

Ohh the irony

[ztejas 44114]

1 hour ago, Hookem10 said:

The scenario I’m talking about is if we lose one more and don’t make sec championship. Perception will matter when 8 big 10 and sec teams are vying for 4 spots. And yes if we win out we’re sec champs and in 

There are not going to be 6 teams from each league that go 10-2 or better. There's no fucking way. 

There will either be 8 B10/SEC, 1 G5, 3 B12+ACC or 7 B10/SEC, 1 G5, 4 B12+ACC

Edited November 3 by ztejas

[TrashMaster G 18030]

1 hour ago, immamac said:

Georgia being 2 is horseshit. It should be Oregon Miami indiana Georgia Ohio State Texas.

Indiana isn't in some G5 shitter conference and they are blowing everyone out not scraping by.  

Miami at #2? With those three asterisks?

Fuck that.

Edited November 3 by TrashMaster G

[immamac 44199]

12 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

Miami at #2? With those three asterisks?

Fuck that.

Undefeated is undefeated. FSU was different because they lost their Can Ward. 

2024 Miami and 2023 FSU have lots of parallels. 

[ztejas 44114]

Just now, immamac said:

2024 Miami and 2023 FSU have lots of parallels. 

NC State ain't walking through that door in Charlotte.

[TrashMaster G 18030]

9 minutes ago, immamac said:

Undefeated is undefeated. FSU was different because they lost their Can Ward. 

2024 Miami and 2023 FSU have lots of parallels. 

Undefeated is a lot easier to achieve with a command center in Charlotte on your side. 

[BurntOrange&White 41649]

17 minutes ago, immamac said:

Undefeated is undefeated. FSU was different because they lost their Can Ward. 

2024 Miami and 2023 FSU have lots of parallels. 

Miami should have at least 2 losses. Officials saved them twice. 

[BurntEyes 6199]

13 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Miami should have at least 2 losses. Officials saved them twice. 

I don't know if he agrees or not, but paper tiger and ref gifts aside an undefeated Miami this deep in the season is going to be top 5-10 every year. The talking heads, and moreso media folks have an odd passion for them. It's not ND strong but it's there and has been a long time. Cam Ward going off consistently, despite a terrible D, is just going to get voter love. That's the way that shit goes, always has. 

Edited November 3 by BurntEyes

[TrashMaster G 18030]

37 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Miami should have at least 2 losses. Officials saved them thrice. 

Fify

[ztejas 44114]

[troph 25089]

There are two one loss teams ahead of them I’m not sure an undefeated Miami is getting the love many think they are. They are still undefeated and at this point in the season that’s a noteworthy fact. I still think many teams can beat them but it hasn’t happened yet.

[ztejas 44114]

1 minute ago, troph said:

There are two one loss teams ahead of them I’m not sure an undefeated Miami is getting the love many think they are. They are still undefeated and at this point in the season that’s a noteworthy fact. I still think many teams can beat them but it hasn’t happened yet.

They haven't played a tough schedule and have had some fucky results. If you look at common opponents between them and SMU it's basically a wash. 

[JBJ 3780]

Is there a coherent argument to have Miami over Indiana, though?  They aren't even ranked very closely.

[markstanco 12773]

Undefeated is undefeated.

With that logic throw byu and army above Texas.

Of the top 5 teams, every Texas fan would love to get Miami over all the rest with supposedly neutral refs.

[Hookem10 851]

1 hour ago, Gen. Applewhite said:

Ohh the irony

They’re not even mentioning the vandy win over Alabama. The new perception is they almost beat us so we must be bad. We survived is the word they used. Like they didn’t even watch game 

[markstanco 12773]

They’re not even mentioning the vandy win over Alabama. The new perception is they almost beat us so we must be bad. We survived is the word they used. Like they didn’t even watch game 

Honestly, nobody outside of Texas or vandy fans really watched. They all just saw the score.

[Gen. Applewhite 227]

37 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

They’re not even mentioning the vandy win over Alabama. The new perception is they almost beat us so we must be bad. We survived is the word they used. Like they didn’t even watch game 

I think all this goes away as soon as we blow someone out, and if we win out with a bunch of close ones, it all becomes moot. And if we lose, they can look and point and tell us how soft we are.

[ztejas 44114]

Texas fans are fucking special. We wander the desert for 15 seasons and then - in back to back fucking seasons - I have to listen to the same stupid bullshit bitching about us being 5+x - 1 and ranked in the top 5 or top 10 and how we aren't good enough or over-ranked or whatever the fuck. 

Newsflash - we went 12-2 last season and almost played for a national title and have a BETTER team this season. 

Just fuckin win and move on, man. It's amazing how many fans didn't want to understand or accept this last season. It's like we've been so far removed from the limelight for so long that we don't understand what college football is about. 

You PLAY to WIN the GAME.

[Gucci_Suit 2809]

2 hours ago, ztejas said:

NC State ain't walking through that door in Charlotte.

It would be so lovely to see SMU make playoffs before aggy. I’m a big fan of this. 

[Huckleberry 34407]

3 hours ago, satyanash said:

Playoffs based on this week's AP Poll (how the hell do we keep ending up against Kalen DeBoer in the postseason?)

 

Have to believe they'll avoid conference matchups in the first round if it's easy. Switch Alabama with either Notre Dame or Boise State and you do that with this ranking set.

[ztejas 44114]

11 minutes ago, Gucci_Suit said:

It would be so lovely to see SMU make playoffs before aggy. I’m a big fan of this. 

We'll take all the bandwagon support we can get. Took a lot just to get the undergrad to 7k.

[dcar00 14902]

42 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Have to believe they'll avoid conference matchups in the first round if it's easy. Switch Alabama with either Notre Dame or Boise State and you do that with this ranking set.

there's going to have to be an agreement to rotate the 5 seed  between SEC and B1G yearly.

[Rex Kramer 1522]

6 hours ago, Hookem10 said:

Agree wholeheartedly- problem is the perception that we’re a paper tiger in the media might keep us out of playoffs from another paper tiger that got in because their conference fluffers did their job and pushed a narrative. If Alabama or Georgia beat vandy the same way, they’d be talking vandy up as a quality win. Just win em all 

No, it’s not a problem at all. Who gives a fuck about perception. This isn’t even on my radar. Because we have much bigger goals than 10-2 finish and at-large invite (which we would get). Some of you need to grab your fucking balls. 

[ztejas 44114]

1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

No, it’s not a problem at all. Who gives a fuck about perception. This isn’t even on my radar. Because we have much bigger goals than 10-2 finish and at-large invite (which we would get). Some of you need to grab your fucking balls. 

preach

[Hookem10 851]

1 hour ago, markstanco said:

Honestly, nobody outside of Texas or vandy fans really watched. They all just saw the score.

Was talking about the ppl paid by espn to talk about just the sec games at night to recap. Those guys opinions that become perceptions. 

[ztejas 44114]

5 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

Was talking about the ppl paid by espn to talk about just the sec games at night to recap. Those guys opinions that become perceptions. 

When Texas is right Texas is right. 

At our A game - historically - no one handles our shit. 

Worry about the Horns my guy. We keep posting Ws fucking no one wants to see us in any round of the playoffs. 

We are 4th by a landslide here and fairly close to #1.

Edited November 4 by ztejas

[Hookem10 851]

BTW, I’m in the camp that we’ll be playing for a sec championship so all the perception shit is moot. Just bitching in the bye week for me about our new conference media. 

[ztejas 44114]

2 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

BTW, I’m in the camp that we’ll be playing for a sec championship so all the perception shit is moot. Just bitching in the bye week for me about our new conference media. 

I feel you - I'm just telling you the media shit is just that. Media ain't playing come game day. 

College football is wild and in a 12 team playoff world it's wilder than ever. Just keep winning games and see what happens. 

I am fairly fucking confident that we have the best D in the nation. That tends to get you places. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 13121]

I still believe Indiana will upset fOSU and Michigan. They're legit. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 13121]

4 hours ago, satyanash said:

Playoffs based on this week's AP Poll (how the hell do we keep ending up against Kalen DeBoer in the postseason?)

We'll beat Bama and Miami only because Deboer hasn't installed an actual system, and Milroe is meh this year. All his targets are to Ryan Williams, and our secondary is ballin out with future Thorpe finalist Barron back there. 

[Hookem10 851]

I think ou is gonna make a run at Indiana coach for some weird reason. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 13121]

3 hours ago, immamac said:

Undefeated is undefeated. FSU was different because they lost their Can Ward. 

2024 Miami and 2023 FSU have lots of parallels. 

Yep. Once Cam Ward is gone (who's much, much worse than Jordan Travis) theyll regress to their mean next season as a 5-6 win team. Ward is a turnover machine. 

[Bevo Num1 1061]

22 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

I think ou is gonna make a run at Indiana coach for some weird reason. 

Lane Kiffen

[TrashMaster G 18030]

1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

Have to believe they'll avoid conference matchups in the first round if it's easy. Switch Alabama with either Notre Dame or Boise State and you do that with this ranking set.

Yup.

[cmontexas 3331]

Notre Dame-Indiana is the money matchup I hope they rig for. Last meeting 1991 before that was 1958. Indiana hasnt beaten the Irish since 1950

[Crockett 517]

BYU should be ahead of the other undefeateds Indiana and Miami (not Oregon). We have better wins so far, including the win vs SMU, which is looking better and better. Other than the Louisville win what has Miami done? Florida and Florida State are trash bags this year, so those wins are not compelling for Miami. 

 

[LTtxfan 49909]

11 hours ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

 

Week 11 Coaches Poll

1.  Oregon (53)

2.  Georgia (1)

3.  Ohio State

4.  Miami

5.  Texas

6.  Tennessee

7.   Penn State

8.  Notre Dame

9.  BYU

10. Indiana

11.  Alabama

12. Ole Miss

13.  LSU

14.  Boise State

15.   SMU

16.  Texas A&M

17.   Clemson

18.   Iowa State

19.   Army

20.   Washington State

21.    Kansas State

22.   Missouri

23.   Pitt

24.   Colorado

25.   Vanderbilt

 

Dropped out: No. 24 Illinois, No. 25 Memphis

Also receiving votes: Tulane 38; Louisville 38; South Carolina 33; Louisiana 27; Syracuse 24; UNLV 17; Arizona State 17; Minnesota 14; Iowa 13; Memphis 5; Illinois 3; Texas Tech 1; James Madison 1

[BurntEyes 6199]

8 hours ago, Crockett said:

BYU should be ahead of the other undefeateds Indiana and Miami (not Oregon). We have better wins so far, including the win vs SMU, which is looking better and better. Other than the Louisville win what has Miami done? Florida and Florida State are trash bags this year, so those wins are not compelling for Miami. 

 

If you go back 1 page, the common opponent results dictate that Indiana should, in fact, be ahead of Oregon. Both should be ahead of BYU. BYU beat SMU 18-15, won against KSU and beat a terrible Baylor squad. Those are the sum total of their Ws verse teams with winning records. 3 total, wanna argue Miami, make your case. 

BYU Opponents record:

SIU: 2-7

SMU: 8-1 (BYU 18 - SMU 15)

Wyoming: 2-7

KSU: 7-2 

Baylor: 5-4

Arizona: 3-6

OkieState: 3-6

UCF: 4-5

(Edit - forgot last weekend moved Baylor into the winning record category. That makes Baylor, amusingly, BYU's 3rd best W on the season. Oh, btw, KSU lost to Houston which tarnished that W for them.) 

Edited November 4 by BurntEyes

[Rex Kramer 1522]

18 hours ago, Hookem10 said:

Every show I watch including sec homer shows act shocked when they see our percentage to make playoff. Then they go on about how Georgia whooped our ass and we don’t belong in the sec cause we can’t handle it.

These people don’t exist. At least on TV. 

[nnm 37737]

14 hours ago, Gucci_Suit said:

It would be so lovely to see SMU make playoffs before aggy. I’m a big fan of this. 

Former SWC teams to make the playoffs before TAMU (all in the 4-team playoff format):

OUsux

UT

TCU

That's it.  That's the list.  

This first year of the expanded playoffs, UT and SMU have a chance.  

Notable that TCU is the only one to win a CFP game.  

TAMU is going to lose at least one more game before the end of the regular season.  Another year wandering in the wilderness.  

[ztejas 44114]

17 hours ago, Crockett said:

BYU should be ahead of the other undefeateds Indiana and Miami (not Oregon). We have better wins so far, including the win vs SMU, which is looking better and better. Other than the Louisville win what has Miami done? Florida and Florida State are trash bags this year, so those wins are not compelling for Miami. 

 

Y'all are a good team and deserved that W but we were also still splitting reps at QB that game. Stone was horrendous in the series that he got. SMU is a much better team at this point in the season - granted I think BYU has also improved since their first few games. 

7 hours ago, nnm said:

Former SWC teams to make the playoffs before TAMU (all in the 4-team playoff format):

OUsux

UT

TCU

That's it.  That's the list.  

This first year of the expanded playoffs, UT and SMU have a chance.  

Notable that TCU is the only one to win a CFP game.  

TAMU is going to lose at least one more game before the end of the regular season.  Another year wandering in the wilderness.  

OU was not in the SWC.

[Magus Ossis 2997]

11 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Y'all are a good team and deserved that W but we were also still splitting reps at QB that game. Stone was horrendous in the series that he got. SMU is a much better team at this point in the season - granted I think BYU has also improved since their first few games. 

OU was not in the SWC.

Except 1915-1919

[ztejas 44114]

2 minutes ago, Magus Ossis said:

Except 1915-1919

TIL.

[Crockett 517]

13 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

If you go back 1 page, the common opponent results dictate that Indiana should, in fact, be ahead of Oregon. Both should be ahead of BYU. BYU beat SMU 18-15, won against KSU and beat a terrible Baylor squad. Those are the sum total of their Ws verse teams with winning records. 3 total, wanna argue Miami, make your case. 

BYU Opponents record:

SIU: 2-7

SMU: 8-1 (BYU 18 - SMU 15)

Wyoming: 2-7

KSU: 7-2 

Baylor: 5-4

Arizona: 3-6

OkieState: 3-6

UCF: 4-5

(Edit - forgot last weekend moved Baylor into the winning record category. That makes Baylor, amusingly, BYU's 3rd best W on the season. Oh, btw, KSU lost to Houston which tarnished that W for them.) 

Yeah, that they both played UCLA & MSU and Indiana beat them by a little more is a data point, but I'm not putting Indiana ahead of Oregon until they beat Ohio State, too. And Oregon also beat Boise State, so even if Indiana beats Ohio State Indiana would still not have the better resume. 

I hope SMU plays Miami for the ACC championship. Only then will we getter a better idea if Miami is really all that. Their strength of schedule has been trash. 

BYU has more to prove, but it's quite possible it will have beat the ACC champ and run through the Big 12. If so, it will deserve at least the 3 seed in the CFP, depending on what happens in the SEC and B10. 

 

 

 

[Crockett 517]

3 hours ago, ztejas said:

Y'all are a good team and deserved that W but we were also still splitting reps at QB that game. Stone was horrendous in the series that he got. SMU is a much better team at this point in the season - granted I think BYU has also improved since their first few games. 

OU was not in the SWC.

Were your QBs expected to split reps in that game? It looked like we had so thoroughly shut down Stone that your coach went to Jennings for a spark, but we kept Jennings in check, too, so he went back and forth, ultimately sticking with Jennings at the end. 

I feel like we've improved a lot as the season has progressed, too, especially our QB. I hope y'all win out, but I don't want to meet you again.