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Bill Lumbergh
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I'd rather stay behind Georgia until they come to Austin.  Same way I felt about being behind SC in 05.  I'd rather have something to prove than something to defend.

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You say a lot of stupid shit and you do it at a rapid, voluminous rate. You’re like a shit howitzer, just fucking blasting the board with constant bullshit. 

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47 minutes ago, Crockett said:

Yeah, that they both played UCLA & MSU and Indiana beat them by a little more is a data point, but I'm not putting Indiana ahead of Oregon until they beat Ohio State, too. And Oregon also beat Boise State, so even if Indiana beats Ohio State Indiana would still not have the better resume. 

I hope SMU plays Miami for the ACC championship. Only then will we getter a better idea if Miami is really all that. Their strength of schedule has been trash. 

BYU has more to prove, but it's quite possible it will have beat the ACC champ and run through the Big 12. If so, it will deserve at least the 3 seed in the CFP, depending on what happens in the SEC and B10. 

 

 

 

First you say Oregon should be ahead of BYU but not IU. I point out the common opponents and the fact the IU beat them by double digits, each one and held them to the exact same offensive output. Then you say they beat them by a little more and bring up Boise State. Then you move the goal post again by mentioning they need to beat OSU, and won't admit they should be ahead of BYU.

I point out BYU has beat 2 good teams, in total. 

BYU has played a shit schedule. IU has out performed Oregon in common opponents by double digits. Yet, IU belongs behind BYU but Oregon doesn't.

You're fulla shit! 

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2 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

First you say Oregon should be ahead of BYU but not IU. I point out the common opponents and the fact the IU beat them by double digits, each one and held them to the exact same offensive output. Then you say they beat them by a little more and bring up Boise State. Then you move the goal post again by mentioning they need to beat OSU, and won't admit they should be ahead of BYU.

I point out BYU has beat 2 good teams, in total. 

BYU has played a shit schedule. IU has out performed Oregon in common opponents by double digits. Yet, IU belongs behind BYU but Oregon doesn't.

You're fulla shit! 

I think you misunderstood my point. No, I said BYU should be ahead of Miami and IU. I don't think BYU should be ahead of Oregon. Also, Oregon should be ahead of IU. Oregon beating Ohio State + UCLA + MSU + Boise State + the rest > IU beating UCLA + MSU + the rest. You put way to much weight on the common opponent scores. I'm not saying it's meaningless metric, but both beat UCLA and MSU handily and it's not the most important metric. If IU remains unbeaten and beats Ohio State, then I have no problem with IU being ahead of BYU. 

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8 hours ago, Crockett said:

I think you misunderstood my point. No, I said BYU should be ahead of Miami and IU. I don't think BYU should be ahead of Oregon. Also, Oregon should be ahead of IU. Oregon beating Ohio State + UCLA + MSU + Boise State + the rest > IU beating UCLA + MSU + the rest. You put way to much weight on the common opponent scores. I'm not saying it's meaningless metric, but both beat UCLA and MSU handily and it's not the most important metric. If IU remains unbeaten and beats Ohio State, then I have no problem with IU being ahead of BYU. 

I understood your point exactly. You're vastly over weighing a win over Boise State and OSU and completely ignoring the only direct comparable mid season, common opponent results. Results that indicate IU has an equivalent level of defense and superior offense to Oregon. 

You're also completely ignoring the fact that IU is beating conference and Non-con opponents dramatically. Every game.

IU offense average points: 46.56 IU opponent average points: 13.67

The closest, Washington 31-17 or... 2 touch downs in favor of IU. 

Find me another undeated team who's smallest margin of victory this year is 14 points. Hint, it ain't Oregon who beat the power house Idaho 24-14 in the first game of the season. It ain't BYU who beat SMU, Okie State and UCF by 3 points. (2 of which teams have a losing record)

Not only should IU be ranked ahead of BYU(who has beaten exactly 2 good teams), but by measurable metrics they should also be ahead of Oregon.

Edit - for clarity I firmly believe IU should be ranked, at worst, #1 or #2 ahead of Miami, Texas, OSU, Georgia and certainly BYU. A case could be argued for BYU ahead of Miami, but it's a weak one. When a team plays a schedule and there are 3 opponents with a winning record, like BYU has done, and there are a lot of close games, well, it doesn't scream top 5 to me.

Notice a modicum of objectivity in that I'm not leaning a huge bias towards my team, Texas. In fact, I have zero allegiance for IU or B1G.

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  1. Oregon
  2. Ohio State
  3. Georgia
  4. Miami
  5. Texas
  6. Penn State
  7. Tennessee
  8. Indiana
  9. Brigham Young
  10. Notre Dame
  11. Alabama
  12. Boise State
  13. Southern Methodist
  14. Texas A&M
  15. Louisiana State
  16. Mississippi
  17. Iowa State
  18. Pittsburgh
  19. Kansas State
  20. Colorado
  21. Washington State
  22. Louisville
  23. Clemson
  24. Missouri
  25. Army
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21 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

SIAP...

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some early talk that Tulane head coach is a rising star that will move up to a Power 4 job soon. 

 

Yup. Coach Sumrall had Troy ranked, winning 10 games, and won back to back Sun Belt titles before he bolted for Tulane. Before Sumrall went to Tulane, the early talk on the Kentucky boards was that Sumrall was going to be their first and only call to replace Stoops when it looked like he was heading to A&M (Sumrall was an assistant under Stoops at UK before he landed the Troy job)

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16 hours ago, Hookem10 said:

missing show right now.  what is galloway saying that makes him a hater. does he sound like a surlyte 

In one comment they give Mizzou credit for beating Vandy then in the next breath say Texas hasn't beaten anyone. Mizzou barely beat Vandy at home (needed OT) and we beat them on the road.

16 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

What am I missing with Georgia being behind Ohio State? Their resume blows Ohio State’s out of the water. 

Agreed. UGA is a Ryan Williams TD catch from being undefeated and the unanimous #1 team. I'm fine with them being behind Oregon for now.

I also didn't understand the pearl-clutching over Army's ranking. They have played no one and have yet to play a team with a winning record. 

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10 minutes ago, Pokoloco said:

Indiana should be 2 or 3. This is non-blueblood bias.

Their strength of schedule is #84. Their nonconference slate was FIU, Charlotte and Western Illinois. The best team they have played in their conference so far is 5-4 Washington, who sits in 9th place in the Big 10. They avoid Oregon and Penn State altogether. I'd say it's more about schedule bias. If they take care of business against Michigan and Ohio State, then they should get more love. But they have played an absolute patsy of a schedule so far.

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Something to consider as we get closer to the end of the season - the CFP will probably want to avoid rematches if at all possible (at least in the first two rounds).

They will definitely consider that in the seedings/rankings especially if the Big Ten and SEC have so many teams qualify. 

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7 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

Quinn just has to continue using his great mobility to make his typical deep ball accuracy against our B12 opponents

Basically reproduce the season he played at Ohio State. I think that guarantees us a win in the Big XII title game.

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5 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

no matter how you look at it, our SOS took a massive fucking hit today.

Every single P4 school we have played so far this year lost today.  and only Colo St and UTSA won this week. 

Just win baby.

and/or keep the #1 defense.

a 2 loss Texas team in the SEC with the #1 D in college football will be tough to keep out of a 12 team playoff.

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