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38 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Yeah, lots of media narratives that Texas is overrated and better beat Kentucky & aggy.

Galloway being a bitch about Texas @30:30

ESPN College Football Final | Reaction CFB Week 12: Georgia take down Tennessee; Colorado crush Utah

He’s not wrong though 

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I'd rather stay behind Georgia until they come to Austin.  Same way I felt about being behind SC in 05.  I'd rather have something to prove than something to defend.

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14 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

I don't think anyone expects an 11-2 Texas to not make it. Its the 10-2 Texas that whiffs on the playoffs.

Well, on this page alone it was questioned whether we would absolutely have a spot should we lose big in the CCG.  I don't see that happening (getting left out, not getting blown out).

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1 hour ago, EuroHorn said:

Let’s not forget about Kentucky. They could beat us next Saturday.  It’s not a slam dunk win 

Agree.  The Kentucky win will more likely be a lay up win, but performed with really good technique like we all learned in middle school.

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6 hours ago, heso said:

Is the sense that ole miss and bama would both get in over Texas with a loss to A&M based solely on their wins over uga? Because I just don’t see Texas’s resume being the worst of those 3. 

It’s the sense I have. Texas’ resume is worse than Bama and Ole Miss for sure. 

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Fucking shit piles.  I never knew vaginitis was so contagious.  Fuck the media.  Fuck the polls.  Fuck the goddamn CFP Committee.  We’re going to trample UK.  Then we’re going to ass fuck aggy with a rusty pitchfork until they pray for the ghost of Justin Tucker to kick them out of their misery.  Finally, we’re going to kick the shit out of whatever unfortunate sack of shit is forced to face us in the SEC Championship Game.  Then the media, pollsters, commentators, and the other dipshit hillbillies in this shitty ass conference can line up to lick Sark’s taint.

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2 hours ago, blutow said:

Most likely, but I don't think it's guaranteed.  If we got blown out by Bama in the CCG, it would certainly be a discussion between us and Tenn.  Recency bias (and eye test) has always played a big role with people making the decisions.  If it's 4+ payoff spots for SEC, I think we're in even with a bad loss in CCG.  3 SEC spots and I think there is risk.  If we lose close in CCG, we're probably in regardless of spots available. 

And we obviously need to win the next 2, hopefully passing the eye test while we're doing it.  If we end up in CCG and losing, eye test in last few games (for all 2 loss teams) will probably be bigger factor than SOS and other "measurables".      

SEC will have 4 minimum. I don’t know where the thought comes from that we’ll have 3, because it’s literally impossible or a 0.0000001% chance of occurring. I doubt they get 5. 

2 hours ago, hornbri said:

I don’t think it is because of brand. I think it is because a combination of other upsets are still going to happen. 

One of those teams you listed is going to have a 3rd loss in the CCG, i think it is safe to assume that loss is going to hurt you. 

A&M is only  -2.5 @ auburn this weekend

Bama and ole miss both have 2 conference games left in the mighty SEC we know what can happen.

I think we are in even if we lose to A&M because we will end up dropping ~5 spots for losing to a ranked opponent on the road in an intense rivalry game plus a combination of TBD upsets. 

 

Incredibly hard to fathom we’re in with a loss at A&M. We’ll drop considerably and after CCG day, we’d be 13 or worse.  I give it a 0% chance. 

1 hour ago, D3zii said:

He’s not wrong though 

No he’s not at all. He’s 100% correct. 

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

The same Ole Miss team that lost at home to Kentucky and on the road at LSU?  Quality of loss matters, too.

13 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Ole Miss lost to two teams that are currently unranked.

Absolutely Ole Miss would jump us. They just smoked UGA. If we’re in a 10-2 dick measuring contest, we’re behind UGA, Ole Miss, and Bama. All have far superior SOS and all have much better wins. This shouldn’t be an argument. 

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4 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

That missed field goal against LSU is going to haunt South Carolina fan for decades. Best team they’ve had since Spurrier, and they’d win a couple CFP games against Big Ten/ACC/Big 12 schools. Life isn’t fair. 

Meh, they were lucky to beat a fraud mizzou last night.  And if they were so great, it wouldn't have been a fg game against lsu.

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1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

Absolutely Ole Miss would jump us. They just smoked UGA. If we’re in a 10-2 dick measuring contest, we’re behind UGA, Ole Miss, and Bama. All have far superior SOS and all have much better wins. This shouldn’t be an argument. 

Counterpoint:  Sagarin has Ole Miss' SOS behind ours (#38 vs #44).  UGA and 'bama are well ahead (#1 and #9).

I don't care what you think of Sagarin.

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4 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

SEC will have 4 minimum. I don’t know where the thought comes from that we’ll have 3, because it’s literally impossible or a 0.0000001% chance of occurring. I doubt they get 5. 

Incredibly hard to fathom we’re in with a loss at A&M. We’ll drop considerably and after CCG day, we’d be 13 or worse.  I give it a 0% chance. 

No he’s not at all. He’s 100% correct. 

Absolutely Ole Miss would jump us. They just smoked UGA. If we’re in a 10-2 dick measuring contest, we’re behind UGA, Ole Miss, and Bama. All have far superior SOS and all have much better wins. This shouldn’t be an argument. 

Ole Miss has a lower full season strength of schedule than Texas.

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19 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Ole Miss lost to two teams that are currently unranked.

They did. But at least right now, a major talking point in CFB media is resume stacking and big wins. I’ve listened to two separate podcasts from today where they went down the list of SEC contenders and repeatedly mention Texas having no big wins or even ranked wins on its resume, and talk about the A&M/Texas loser being out of the CFP.

Number of losses and quality wins are the dominant factors, at least as far as media discussion. Who you lost to is not the top consideration. I’ll also add that our laying an egg against Georgia is also brought up a lot. Had that game appeared more competitive (even though I think it WAS more competitive than it seemed), I don’t think we’d be catching as much skepticism.

Fortunately the media does not determine the rankings, the committee does, and they’ve ranked us favorably so far. But being a beauty contest with Ole Miss and Tennessee for the final at-large spot could be problematic for us.

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11 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

SEC will have 4 minimum. I don’t know where the thought comes from that we’ll have 3, because it’s literally impossible or a 0.0000001% chance of occurring. I doubt they get 5. 

Incredibly hard to fathom we’re in with a loss at A&M. We’ll drop considerably and after CCG day, we’d be 13 or worse.  I give it a 0% chance. 

No he’s not at all. He’s 100% correct. 

Absolutely Ole Miss would jump us. They just smoked UGA. If we’re in a 10-2 dick measuring contest, we’re behind UGA, Ole Miss, and Bama. All have far superior SOS and all have much better wins. This shouldn’t be an argument. 

Sec will get 5 if noter dame loses. 
SEC could get 5 if it breaks the right way and Indiana loses by 50 to OSU

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9 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

They did. But at least right now, a major talking point in CFB media is resume stacking and big wins. I’ve listened to two separate podcasts from today where they went down the list of SEC contenders and repeatedly mention Texas having no big wins or even ranked wins on its resume, and talk about the A&M/Texas loser being out of the CFP.

Number of losses and quality wins are the dominant factors, at least as far as media discussion. Who you lost to is not the top consideration. I’ll also add that our laying an egg against Georgia is also brought up a lot. Had that game appeared more competitive (even though I think it WAS more competitive than it seemed), I don’t think we’d be catching as much skepticism.

Fortunately the media does not determine the rankings, the committee does, and they’ve ranked us favorably so far. But being a beauty contest with Ole Miss and Tennessee for the final at-large spot could be problematic for us.

The annoying thing to me is that the media seems to just bray no top 25 wins and neglect how we've looked in most of our wins.  Our offense didn't show up against Georgia and should have handled Vandy and Arkansas more easily but the way we've blown out everyone else on the schedule deserves consideration.  But we're still #3 in both polls, so I guess the naysayers aren't gaining too much traction yet.

And if you take anything beyond a cursory look at our defense, we obviously belong.  I think we get to 11-1 though and this is mostly moot.

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32 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Ole Miss lost to two teams that are currently unranked.

This is an overlooked point in all the talk about quality wins. Maybe we are deficient on that measure, but we sure as hell have ZERO shitty losses.

No, I'm not touting a "quality loss", but I'm saying that there should be some penalization for shitty losses, especially if you have more than one.

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13 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Counterpoint:  Sagarin has Ole Miss' SOS behind ours (#38 vs #44).  UGA and 'bama are well ahead (#1 and #9).

I don't care what you think of Sagarin.

 

12 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Ole Miss has a lower full season strength of schedule than Texas.

Oh wow. Well, they’ve played and beaten UGA and murdered SC on the road. That’s better than anything we’ve done. Recency of UGA game combined with recency of A&M loss for us will move them ahead of us, easily. 

 

7 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Sec will get 5 if noter dame loses. 
SEC could get 5 if it breaks the right way and Indiana loses by 50 to OSU

Yes but those aren’t likely. 3 is an impossibility. 

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13 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

This is an overlooked point in all the talk about quality wins. Maybe we are deficient on that measure, but we sure as hell have ZERO shitty losses.

No, I'm not touting a "quality loss", but I'm saying that there should be some penalization for shitty losses, especially if you have more than one.

This.  what this says is Texas is consistent in beating everyone they are supposed to beat and the only win that was slightly a problem was Vandy because refs and Quinn somewhat kept them in what should have been a 14-20 point win.

what it says about Ole Miss is they could lose to anyone on any day.

We had one bad half of football against a top 10 team.

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32 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Counterpoint:  Sagarin has Ole Miss' SOS behind ours (#38 vs #44).  UGA and 'bama are well ahead (#1 and #9).

I don't care what you think of Sagarin.

Is that sos to this point or total? Bama played Mercer this week and uga plays umass next week. 

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39 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Absolutely Ole Miss would jump us. They just smoked UGA. If we’re in a 10-2 dick measuring contest, we’re behind UGA, Ole Miss, and Bama. All have far superior SOS and all have much better wins. This shouldn’t be an argument. 

I can't figure out why you think any of this matters.

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24 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I'm guessing a 10-2 Texas makes the CFP no matter what because the corporations involved like to make money.

Just a hunch.

There is little to no chance. 

15 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

This.  what this says is Texas is consistent in beating everyone they are supposed to beat and the only win that was slightly a problem was Vandy because refs and Quinn somewhat kept them in what should have been a 14-20 point win.

what it says about Ole Miss is they could lose to anyone on any day.

We had one bad half of football against a top 10 team.

We lacked the opportunities. Not our fault, except shitting the bed against UGA and A&M. I’d take big wins over conference losses to lesser teams all day long. Committee will too. If A&M wins they’d be in CCG. If they win (doubtful), they’re in. That’s worst case scenario. If they lose, they’re out, and we’d be in a 4-horse race against three of Bama, UGA, Ole Miss and Tenn (one of those four will be SEC champ). We do not stack up. 

9 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I can't figure out why you think any of this matters.

See above. 

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The problem we would face in a 6 team tie is the head to heads. We aren't getting in over UGA. UGA isn't getting in over Ole Miss or Bama. Bama isn't getting in over Tenn. Tenn isn't getting in over UGA.

Like rock paper scissors, except we don't beat anyone. Easy solution is don't lose.

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11 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I can't figure out why you respond to that numb-nut jerkoff responding to that numb-nut jerkoff..

I think the most accurate way to describe this situation is a numb-nut circle jerkoff, or N2CJo….

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Buncha fucking betas in this thread. Alabamas loss to vandy didn’t happen anymore. Tenn loss to Arkansas didn’t happen. Ole miss beat by Kentucky but who fkin cares huh. If we don’t make it in it’ll be because sec media are haters and don’t want us in over their traditionals. The narrative should be about our defense cause they are plenty good to win. Btw fuck Georgia, they dominated first half and we dominated second half. We can beat any of those teams fuck em all. 

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18 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Yeah you know I think the CFP’s ratings aren’t going to suffer one bit. 

Texas will absolutely bring more eyeballs than Ole Miss or Tennessee.  and aggy.

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1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

Texas will absolutely bring more eyeballs than Ole Miss or Tennessee.  

I don’t care. These are all hypotheticals. I don’t think we’re making CFP or SECCG with a loss in CS. I don’t think we lose, so I’m not gonna waste time worrying about the hypotheticals. But we won’t make it with a loss at A&M unless we get lucky as shit with hell breaking loose. 

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2 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I don’t care. These are all hypotheticals. I don’t think we’re making CFP or SECCG with a loss in CS. I don’t think we lose, so I’m not gonna waste time worrying about the hypotheticals. But we won’t make it with a loss at A&M unless we get lucky as shit with hell breaking loose. 

You're worrying about a hypothetical.

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I guarantee if we ended up with wins against Ga and aggy and losses to kentucky and oklahoma. it would be all about Texas' losses to unranked team at home and neutral.

the same as last year when all the talking heads were focused on us v. FSU, when it was really about Bama v. FSU. It brings more eyeballs and interest to talk about Texas and if Joey Galloway or Kurt douchebag can do it while bagging on Texas, even better.

Lee Corso is the only guy who has stood by us.  Everyone else loves try to push us out(McElroy last year was at least evenhanded).

Time to make the chimichangas against stoops and aggy.

4 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I don’t care. These are all hypotheticals. I don’t think we’re making CFP or SECCG with a loss in CS. I don’t think we lose, so I’m not gonna waste time worrying about the hypotheticals. But we won’t make it with a loss at A&M unless we get lucky as shit with hell breaking loose. 

well OK, then maybe this thread is not for you

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Oh wow. Well, they’ve played and beaten UGA and murdered SC on the road. That’s better than anything we’ve done. Recency of UGA game combined with recency of A&M loss for us will move them ahead of us, easily. 

 

Yes but those aren’t likely. 3 is an impossibility. 

USC could easily beat UND. At USC. UND lost to northern Illinois man. 

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1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

There is little to no chance. 

We lacked the opportunities. Not our fault, except shitting the bed against UGA and A&M. I’d take big wins over conference losses to lesser teams all day long. Committee will too. If A&M wins they’d be in CCG. If they win (doubtful), they’re in. That’s worst case scenario. If they lose, they’re out, and we’d be in a 4-horse race against three of Bama, UGA, Ole Miss and Tenn (one of those four will be SEC champ). We do not stack up. 

See above. 

Also we don’t need all hell to break loose.  We need like 1 thing to happen out of 15 possible options. It’s probably likely at this point man. 

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5 hours ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

People thinking a 2-loss Texas because "brand" is a shoe-in need to step back.  In the 2-loss scenario where we lose to aggy, these are our comparables in the SEC:

10-2 aggy,  who would own H2H vs. Texas AND stronger SOS AND is a big brand in terms of TV viewership (not as big as Texas but not so big to make a difference when they own H2H)

10-2 UGA, who would own H2H vs. Texas AND stronger SOS AND top 25 wins vs. (16) Clemson, (11) Tennessee, AND is a 5* brand just like Texas

10-2 Tenn, whose SOS > Texas SOS AND has top 25 win vs. (7) Bama AND is a big brand

10-2 Bama, whose SOS > Texas SOS AND has top 25 win vs. (8) UGA AND is a big brand

10-2 Ole Miss, whose SOS > Texas SOS AND has top 25 win vs. (8) UGA

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10-2 Texas, who has the lowest SOS of the group and zero top 25 wins and in this scenario has taken the latest regular-season loss (and if that loss is to aggy won't have the chance to redeem it in the SECCG).  We are a big brand though.

...SEC isn't getting 6 into the CFP.  Probably not five.  Who are the 2 you're leaving out of the list to put in Texas, if we lose to aggy?  In that scenario aggy and probably Bama play the SECCG so they're probably in.  2 more spots.  UGA gets one with the next-best resume.  1 spot left for Texas, Tenn, Ole Miss.  I guess we could squeak over Ole Miss, barely?

Just bringing up Tennessee SOS, they have the exact same schedule as we do in conference, swapping 2 loss Aggies with 2 loss Bama. Their OOC is Chattanooga FCS, NC state 5-5, Kent state 0-10, and UTEP 2-8.  Is that OOC any better than CSU 7-3, ULM 5-5, UTSA 5-5, and UM 5-5?  
 

Seems like a push at best, possibly our SOS might be a little higher 

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36 minutes ago, Treefidy said:

Just bringing up Tennessee SOS, they have the exact same schedule as we do in conference, swapping 2 loss Aggies with 2 loss Bama. Their OOC is Chattanooga FCS, NC state 5-5, Kent state 0-10, and UTEP 2-8.  Is that OOC any better than CSU 7-3, ULM 5-5, UTSA 5-5, and UM 5-5?  
 

Seems like a push at best, possibly our SOS might be a little higher 

Are you a moron?

our ooc is leaps and bounds better than Tenn.

a push?

they aren’t even in the same league, literally.

they played fcs and one of the 5 worst teams in FBS.

UTEP is one of the 15 worst.

its literally the equivalent of three FCS games, literal throw aways on the schedule.

UM was on the road against a top 25, power five defense.

CSU,A team who might very well play the top ranked G5 team in a CCG game and two other respectable, competitive G5 schools.

 

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