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3 minutes ago, Treefidy said:

swapping 2 loss Aggies with 2 loss Bama.

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Agree that on paper Texas/Tenn schedules aren't much different, but Tenn will get more credit for a Bama win than we do for a win over aggy.  Bama has a really good win (along with just being Bama) while aggy has no cache and no quality wins.  Obviously none of it matters unless we drop a game, but we better at least look like a playoff team down the stretch if we drop the CCG.  Just don't want to get into the 2 loss debate with a bunch of teams who all have head to head comps against each other.  

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15 minutes ago, TheYoungHorn said:

Are you a moron?

our ooc is leaps and bounds better than Tenn.

a push?

they aren’t even in the same league, literally.

they played fcs and one of the 5 worst teams in FBS.

UTEP is one of the 15 worst.

its literally the equivalent of three FCS games, literal throw aways on the schedule.

UM was on the road against a top 25, power five defense.

CSU,A team who might very well play the top ranked G5 team in a CCG game and two other respectable, competitive G5 schools.

 

Literally?

Literally?

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People are dumb.

Sure if we’re only counting current CFP top 25 wins we’d be fucked, lucky for us other things are factored into it.

No one respects aggy, especially now that their big wins have up and vanished like a fart in the wind. Look at where they are ranked. If they beat us they aren’t jumping into the top 8. Then they lose to Bama/UGA or whoever they’ll fall right out again.

If they win out…

UGA is in. Big wins against Texas, Tennessee, Clemson, and no shitty loses.

Alabama is also likely in. Big win against UGA only one shitty loss to Vandy.

After that the committee will do whatever it wants and justify it after the fact like they always have.

Ole Miss is a smaller brand with one big win and two shitty loses and a worse SOS than Texas. I’d feel pretty confident going into a CFP beauty pageant against them, even with an aggy loss.

Not as sure about Tennessee but I doubt it matters.

Texas has no big wins but took care of business against Arkansas, Vandy and presumably Kentucky who all pulled upsets over Tennessee, Alabama, and Ole Miss respectively. That count for something.

As always, “just win” is the best advice. Win and it don’t make a shit what the talking heads say.

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4 hours ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

Fucking shit piles.  I never knew vaginitis was so contagious.  Fuck the media.  Fuck the polls.  Fuck the goddamn CFP Committee.  We’re going to trample UK.  Then we’re going to ass fuck aggy with a rusty pitchfork until they pray for the ghost of Justin Tucker to kick them out of their misery.  Finally, we’re going to kick the shit out of whatever unfortunate sack of shit is forced to face us in the SEC Championship Game.  Then the media, pollsters, commentators, and the other dipshit hillbillies in this shitty ass conference can line up to lick Sark’s taint.

 

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The Georgia Bulldogs have had issues with the College Football Playoff selection committee rankings. In particular, with how this year’s selection committee has evaluated strength of schedule.

At times, Georgia’s frustrations have extended to Texas, a fellow member of the SEC. It’s rare that one conference member may be critical of another, but as Paul Finebaum explained on The Matt Barrie Show, the Bulldogs have expressed that frustration, and that talk does hold merit.

“For the Georgia people, and I’ve talked to Josh Brooks the athletic director who took a wild haymaker at the committee on Friday on our program and Kirby and all of the things that we’ve talked about,” Finebaum said. “They just looked at not only the schedule, and there was a little bit of talk about the Texas schedule from the Georgia people as well. I know that verboten in the SEC to talk about one of your brothers but I heard plenty of people say that Texas has had the easiest SEC schedule since Tulane was a member in the ’60s and I think you could back that up.”

This is Texas’ first season in the SEC. That expansion has ended divisions and has, seemingly, led to some uneven schedules in terms of difficulty. Georgia, for instance, has to play five games against currently ranked teams, including a non-conference game against Clemson. To this point, Texas’ only ranked opponent is Georgia, a game the Bulldogs won. The Longhorns will also play Texas A&M.

“But it was about that Clemson game,” Finebaum said. “They really are proud that they wrap their arms around playing schools like Oregon and Notre Dame and schools like that, even though last year, if you remember, they had the easiest schedule in the country. But I feel like they have been righted.”

With Georgia’s win over Tennessee, the Bulldogs are, likely, in a comfortable position to make it to the Playoff. Now, the question is about being prepared for that deep run.

“Kirby also talked about planning for the Playoff,” Finebaum said. “I mean, this is in the off-season. He essentially said we knew were going to lose a game or two. We just didn’t know to what degree. He was planning for a 16, 17, 18 game schedule, not the predictable 12 game schedule.”

For the time being, Texas remains the top-ranked team in the SEC. That is unlikely to change without the Longhorns suffering a second loss. However, the next rankings will be revealed on Tuesday night, adding some clarity on how the selection committee views these teams.

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1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

 

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The Georgia Bulldogs have had issues with the College Football Playoff selection committee rankings. In particular, with how this year’s selection committee has evaluated strength of schedule.

At times, Georgia’s frustrations have extended to Texas, a fellow member of the SEC. It’s rare that one conference member may be critical of another, but as Paul Finebaum explained on The Matt Barrie Show, the Bulldogs have expressed that frustration, and that talk does hold merit.

“For the Georgia people, and I’ve talked to Josh Brooks the athletic director who took a wild haymaker at the committee on Friday on our program and Kirby and all of the things that we’ve talked about,” Finebaum said. “They just looked at not only the schedule, and there was a little bit of talk about the Texas schedule from the Georgia people as well. I know that verboten in the SEC to talk about one of your brothers but I heard plenty of people say that Texas has had the easiest SEC schedule since Tulane was a member in the ’60s and I think you could back that up.”

This is Texas’ first season in the SEC. That expansion has ended divisions and has, seemingly, led to some uneven schedules in terms of difficulty. Georgia, for instance, has to play five games against currently ranked teams, including a non-conference game against Clemson. To this point, Texas’ only ranked opponent is Georgia, a game the Bulldogs won. The Longhorns will also play Texas A&M.

“But it was about that Clemson game,” Finebaum said. “They really are proud that they wrap their arms around playing schools like Oregon and Notre Dame and schools like that, even though last year, if you remember, they had the easiest schedule in the country. But I feel like they have been righted.”

With Georgia’s win over Tennessee, the Bulldogs are, likely, in a comfortable position to make it to the Playoff. Now, the question is about being prepared for that deep run.

“Kirby also talked about planning for the Playoff,” Finebaum said. “I mean, this is in the off-season. He essentially said we knew were going to lose a game or two. We just didn’t know to what degree. He was planning for a 16, 17, 18 game schedule, not the predictable 12 game schedule.”

For the time being, Texas remains the top-ranked team in the SEC. That is unlikely to change without the Longhorns suffering a second loss. However, the next rankings will be revealed on Tuesday night, adding some clarity on how the selection committee views these teams.

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1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

Predicts aggy beats Texas.  Then aggy loses to Bama -- both aggy and Texas miss out on the CFP playoffs.

College Football Playoff BRACKETOLOGY, Week 13 | CFP after BYU, Tennessee fall in BIG 12, SEC play

 

So by their measure the only thing that matters is your best win and bad losses mean nothing. Even number of losses means nothing. Ole Miss and Tenn just getting shuffled right into the 7 & 10 spot without any discussion of their warts. Ole Miss has the win over uga, but they have 2 bad losses. And they have to be punished for that ooc schedule. Tenn has the win over bama, but got blasted by uga, lost to arky, got taken to OT by UF, was in a 1 score game late in the 4th with UK. 

Of all the bubble teams, the worst losses are ole miss to uk, bama to vandy, and tenn to ark. Plus they all have a second loss. But those guys don’t have any of them on the bubble, say that IU and psu both need to worry more than any of those teams with only 1 loss, that’s a “better” loss than any of those teams with 2 losses. UT is out despite not having a bad loss. Just because those 3 teams beat uga, who has looked really flawed at times. 

I just can’t see how Texas drops from 3 to 13 with a second loss, behind all of those other 2 loss teams, unless it’s a really ugly loss. 

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Those guys are morons. They’re talking about who you’d kick out to let army in if they win out beating notre dame and they conclude that you can’t kick out any of those teams for army.

You’d kick out fucking notre dame because they’d have two losses to army and northern Illinois. 

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Are they bitching about Tennessee's SEC schedule?  Let's compare:

Texas          Tennessee

v. MSU        v. MSU

v. KT            v. KT

v. FLA          v. FLA

v. OU           @ OU

v. UGA         @ UGA

@ Arky        @ Arky

@ Vandy     @ Vandy

@ A&M       v. Bama

Hmmm.........

 

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Whether we beat aggy depends on which Quinn Ewers shows up. That 4th quarter drive in Fayetteville impressed me, and helped me feel less concern in the moment. The best thing would be for Texas to jump out to a huge lead, take the crowd out of it, and the horns coast to a comfortable 20+ win with Arch getting in a few reps. We have the defense to make that happen, but the offense can't be counted on to play up to its potential.

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8 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

How many times have we seen a big lead in the first half this season vs starting slow?

Big leads in the first half this year?

Texas 35, Florida 0

Texas 21, Oklahoma 3

Texas 28, UL Monroe 3

Texas 28, UTSA 7

Texas 24, Michigan 3

Texas 31, Colorado State 0

 

So, what--six of our nine wins?  

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12 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

 

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The Georgia Bulldogs have had issues with the College Football Playoff selection committee rankings. In particular, with how this year’s selection committee has evaluated strength of schedule.

At times, Georgia’s frustrations have extended to Texas, a fellow member of the SEC. It’s rare that one conference member may be critical of another, but as Paul Finebaum explained on The Matt Barrie Show, the Bulldogs have expressed that frustration, and that talk does hold merit.

“For the Georgia people, and I’ve talked to Josh Brooks the athletic director who took a wild haymaker at the committee on Friday on our program and Kirby and all of the things that we’ve talked about,” Finebaum said. “They just looked at not only the schedule, and there was a little bit of talk about the Texas schedule from the Georgia people as well. I know that verboten in the SEC to talk about one of your brothers but I heard plenty of people say that Texas has had the easiest SEC schedule since Tulane was a member in the ’60s and I think you could back that up.”

This is Texas’ first season in the SEC. That expansion has ended divisions and has, seemingly, led to some uneven schedules in terms of difficulty. Georgia, for instance, has to play five games against currently ranked teams, including a non-conference game against Clemson. To this point, Texas’ only ranked opponent is Georgia, a game the Bulldogs won. The Longhorns will also play Texas A&M.

“But it was about that Clemson game,” Finebaum said. “They really are proud that they wrap their arms around playing schools like Oregon and Notre Dame and schools like that, even though last year, if you remember, they had the easiest schedule in the country. But I feel like they have been righted.”

With Georgia’s win over Tennessee, the Bulldogs are, likely, in a comfortable position to make it to the Playoff. Now, the question is about being prepared for that deep run.

“Kirby also talked about planning for the Playoff,” Finebaum said. “I mean, this is in the off-season. He essentially said we knew were going to lose a game or two. We just didn’t know to what degree. He was planning for a 16, 17, 18 game schedule, not the predictable 12 game schedule.”

For the time being, Texas remains the top-ranked team in the SEC. That is unlikely to change without the Longhorns suffering a second loss. However, the next rankings will be revealed on Tuesday night, adding some clarity on how the selection committee views these teams.

of course when the schedule was made everyone thought Georgia would be beating everyone 50-0 and play name the score with Texas, Florida would be tough, Kentucky/Stoops was gonna be really good, and 3 "Rivalry" games(2 away and 1 neutral).

Pawl is a dickmunch.

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1 minute ago, Ghost of LL said:

Big leads in the first half this year?

Texas 35, Florida 0

Texas 21, Oklahoma 3

Texas 28, UL Monroe 3

Texas 28, UTSA 7

Texas 24, Michigan 3

Texas 31, Colorado State 0

 

So, what--six of our nine wins?  

Not enough.

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1 minute ago, Ghost of LL said:

Big leads in the first half this year?

Texas 35, Florida 0

Texas 21, Oklahoma 3

Texas 28, UL Monroe 3

Texas 28, UTSA 7

Texas 24, Michigan 3

Texas 31, Colorado State 0

 

So, what--six of our nine wins?  

And the other wins: 

Miss St - 14-6
Vandy - 21-10
Arky - 10-0

We've held a double digit halftime lead in 8 of 9 wins. 

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4 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

of course when the schedule was made everyone thought Georgia would be beating everyone 50-0 and play name the score with Texas, Florida would be tough, Kentucky/Stoops was gonna be really good, and 3 "Rivalry" games(2 away and 1 neutral).

Pawl is a dickmunch.

Nobody thought Florida was going to be tough or Kentucky/Stoops were going to be really good though we all did expect them to be better than 1-6 in conference play. 

And Pawl's issue is he left Tennessee out of the equation when they deserve the same complaints we get.  I guess losing to Arkansas took them out of the discussion but still you can't pine and whine about Texas without at least pointing out we share 7/8 common opponents with Tennessee.

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Most people and national sportswriters only saw Texas play once this season and that was the home loss to Georgia.

Then they look at our schedule and see zero current top 25 teams, and they conclude that we've lost to the only decent team we've played and, therefore, shouldn't be ranked very high.

It's lazy, but that's where we are.

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Just now, The Dog said:

Most people and national sportswriters only saw Texas play once this season and that was the home loss to Georgia.

Then they look at our schedule and see zero current top 25 teams, and they conclude that we've lost to the only decent team we've played and, therefore, shouldn't be ranked very high.

It's lazy, but that's where we are.

Compared to our conference mates we have had the easiest schedule so far

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We will however pull ahead of Ole Miss, Mizzou, & Tennessee when the final games are played as a guess.

The bigger story line should be what a fucking dumpster fire the Big Ten is...

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75% of the Big Ten CFP contenders have had worse schedules than us and 100% of them are likely to finish behind us when the dust settles.

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13 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Most people and national sportswriters only saw Texas play once this season and that was the home loss to Georgia.

Then they look at our schedule and see zero current top 25 teams, and they conclude that we've lost to the only decent team we've played and, therefore, shouldn't be ranked very high.

It's lazy, but that's where we are.

And yet we're ranked third by the only organization that matters.

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Georgia complaining about our strength of schedule is fucking rich. Don't get me wrong, their schedule this year is a motherfucker but those dickbags have been riding the second tier SEC east gravy train forever. Last year, Georgia essentially had a one game regular season schedule against Ole Miss (at home) and you could give them credit for a "tough" game against 9-4 Tennessee (who lost to every team they played who had a pulse). Their nonconference schedule was UAB, TN-Martin, Ball State, and Georgia Tech. 

There are always going to be inequities in the conference schedules when you have way more teams than games available. That's life. Unless you want to go to a round robin like the Big 12 had and kick a few teams out, you can't control that. It's a function of luck and circumstance (and by god karma) that OU is terrible. We scheduled Michigan for fuck's sake, not Ball State. As if we planned for them to crater after a national championship.

I suppose all this could be good motivation purposes. It may not be a bad idea to play the "lack of respect" / "we haven't beaten anybody" card with the team.

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6 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

Compared to our conference mates we have had the easiest schedule so far

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We will however pull ahead of Ole Miss, Mizzou, & Tennessee when the final games are played as a guess.

The bigger story line should be what a fucking dumpster fire the Big Ten is...

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75% of the Big Ten CFP contenders have had worse schedules than us and 100% of them are likely to finish behind us when the dust settles.

tOSU got hosed with their conference scheduling. They have to play Oregon (twice probably), Penn St, and Indiana. The other three good teams only had to play tOSU,

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1 minute ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I understand we have not been perfect, but we have played 540 minutes against teams not named Georgia.  For less than 8 of those minutes, the other team has been able to look up at the scoreboard and see a lead... and never in the second half.  

NoT gOoD eNoUgH

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2 hours ago, heso said:

Those guys are morons. They’re talking about who you’d kick out to let army in if they win out beating notre dame and they conclude that you can’t kick out any of those teams for army.

You’d kick out fucking notre dame because they’d have two losses to army and northern Illinois. 

but they have the huge win at aggy on the road...and 1 huge win offsets 2 shitty losses.  just ask Ole Miss.

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26 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

Compared to our conference mates we have had the easiest schedule so far

 

That's true, but something we've done that Alabama, Tennessee, and Ole Miss have not is to take care of business against everyone else. If we beat Kentucky this weekend, we will have beaten a team that beat Ole Miss on the road. None of those teams have any argument to be ranked ahead of us as two loss teams.

If anyone wants to complain about our schedule then be sure you didn't lose to one of the shitty teams on it.

22 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Georgia complaining about our strength of schedule is fucking rich. Don't get me wrong, their schedule this year is a motherfucker but those dickbags have been riding the second tier SEC east gravy train forever.

I don't have a problem with anyone saying Georgia should be ranked ahead of us in the CFP rankings as a two-loss team. They're the only team whose strength of schedule should be considered and they kicked our ass. They should be ranked ahead of Ohio State as well. 

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24 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

Compared to our conference mates we have had the easiest schedule so far

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We will however pull ahead of Ole Miss, Mizzou, & Tennessee when the final games are played as a guess.

The bigger story line should be what a fucking dumpster fire the Big Ten is...

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75% of the Big Ten CFP contenders have had worse schedules than us and 100% of them are likely to finish behind us when the dust settles.

The sec has no business talking down on anyone’s strength of schedule until they start playing 9 conference games. Uga and Tenn both play 2-8 ooc games this week where they’re favored by 40+, A&M played NM st last week, 2-8 favored by 40+. Bama played fucking Mercer on Saturday. 

Oregon and Penn state would much rather be playing Mercer or Umass in November instead of Wisconsin & Minnesota. 2 loss sec teams practically getting a week off in November instead of playing Vandy, Arky, Kentucky, or LSU. 

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4 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Predicts aggy beats Texas.  Then aggy loses to Bama -- both aggy and Texas miss out on the CFP playoffs.

College Football Playoff BRACKETOLOGY, Week 13 | CFP after BYU, Tennessee fall in BIG 12, SEC play

 

That's absolutely silly...whoever loses the SEC Title and Big 10 Title game are getting in.  The comitee will NOT punish the loser of those 2 games for having to play a game that no one else did.

 

I hate aggy, obviously...but if they beat us and lose in that game they're most likely in.

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1 hour ago, field said:

Are they bitching about Tennessee's SEC schedule?  Let's compare:

Texas          Tennessee

v. MSU        v. MSU

v. KT            v. KT

v. FLA          v. FLA

v. OU           @ OU

v. UGA         @ UGA

@ Arky        @ Arky

@ Vandy     @ Vandy

@ A&M       v. Bama

Hmmm.........

 

And their Non Con isn't going to be better than Texas either...

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Bitching about this shit is stupid.

Beat Kentucky. Beat aggy. Beat whoever in the CCG. Beat whoever in the playoff. People will stfu.

Don’t do that and, well, diarrhea of the mouth will ensue everywhere.

Bitching has nothing to do with it.

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2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Bama opened at -2 versus OU?? 

Not knowing when that site starts tracking the lines, that was probably one of a handful of games that had lines at the beginning of the season. 

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Scattershooting... 

November fatigue is real for teams with depth problems.  Heard a few analysts talk about Oregon struggles in their night game @Whisky being predictable due to so much travel and no bye game since September.  One commentator thought it was probably helpful for Oregon to be tested in a tight game.

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Also thought the following info from Kirby was interesting:  

“Kirby also talked about planning for the Playoff,” Finebaum said. “I mean, this is in the off-season. He essentially said we knew were going to lose a game or two. We just didn’t know to what degree. He was planning for a 16, 17, 18 game schedule, not the predictable 12 game schedule.”

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An old ballcoach once said that the same team doesn't show up every week in a 12 game season and 1 or 2 challenging regular season games can be helpful before the playoffs.  Also, when you play an opponent during your schedule factors into how well your team might play.

example #1: Texas plays jawja in a physical home game then travels to Vandy the following week and struggles.  

2nd example:  Catching the gators in Austin with their 3rd string QB starting.

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All of the above was to set the table for discussions on how the heck do CFB coaches have to adjust to a 15/16 game season???  I'm glad that Sark has been able to rotate more players during the first 10 games and still currently have only 1 loss.

Matchups in the 12 team playoff bracket may be every bit as critical to winning as having the best team.  Sometimes it can come down to styles that are a tough matchup.  The example I use here is Vandy can beat Bama early in the season because Vandy is not banged up and Bama's defense while decent was not that physical.  By the time Vandy played a very physical S.Carolina team with no bye week since Sept they were toast.  So which teams will Texas matchup better against in the CFP playoffs if we get there???   Obviously jawja's defense seems like our kryptonite.  😬

Finally, just wondering how much having an easier playoff draw will likely factor into winning this new 12 team plays ???

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Possible Seeds

#5 PennSt vs #12 BoiseSt  then   #4 Colorado

#6 Georgia vs #11 Indy    then      #3 Miami

#7 OhioSt vs #10 Bama    then      #2 TEXAS

#8 ND vs #9 OleMiss       then     #1 Oregon

 

 

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8 hours ago, field said:

Are they bitching about Tennessee's SEC schedule?  Let's compare:

Texas          Tennessee

v. MSU        v. MSU

v. KT            v. KT

v. FLA          v. FLA

v. OU           @ OU

v. UGA         @ UGA

@ Arky        @ Arky

@ Vandy     @ Vandy

@ A&M       v. Bama

Hmmm.........

 

Yea, but Tenn had to play UTEP, while we played at Michigan!

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