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2024 CFB polls/rankings - Texas #3/ #4 /#4 (CFP/AP/Coaches)


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13 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

You have to look at the CFP rankings and not just feel your way through this.  Assume we beat UK.  (The whole argument is for all intents and purposes moot if we don't.)  We're likely at #3.  Assume all four P4 champs remain in the top 12.  Assume we lose to A&M.  Boise (or whoever) will take one remaining spot, meaning we need to drop no lower than #11.  Do you really think the CFP committee would drop us from #3 to #12 or lower after one loss?  I don't see it.

I don't have to do shit. 

It'll play out.

What i know is win and in. The rest is just so much mind game stuff. 

I don't mean to be dismissive but I've zero control over whatever the fuck happens. All I do know is win the next 2 and we're in. The rest of the possibilities will be what they are and I'm not interested in hashing it out for days. Shit will come out in the wash. Beat Kentucky and Aggie and we're in the SEC Champ game. Win that and we're in the CFP don't shit happens.

The rest.. it'll be sorted out in the wash. 

I know these debates and hand wringing are the cornerstone of college football history. 

I just stopped giving a shit. 

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2 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I don't have to do shit. 

It'll play out.

What i know is win and in. The rest is just so much mind game stuff. 

I don't mean to be dismissive but I've zero control over whatever the fuck happens. All I do know is win the next 2 and we're in. The rest of the possibilities will be what they are and I'm not interested in hashing it out for days. Shit will come out in the wash. Beat Kentucky and Aggie and we're in the SEC Champ game. Win that and we're in the CFP don't shit happens.

The rest.. it'll be sorted out in the wash. 

I know these debates and hand wringing are the cornerstone of college football history. 

I just stopped giving a shit. 

That's a really impressive monologue, but the rest of us are having a discussion about less than optimal results.  You might want to sit this out.

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6 hours ago, ztejas said:

Russillo got pretty spicy yesterday. Did y'all realize Indiana has played 0 games against the top 7 in the B10?

Can't say I disagree with much he had to say. 

 

 

2 hours ago, ztejas said:

I can't imagine anyone with a functioning fucking brain thinking that Indiana, Notre Dame and Penn State are all better than BOTH Bama and Georgia. (fixed)

We need divisions or pods or something in the P4. Especially if this is how lazy the committee is going to be with W/L records. 

This is so fucking stupid and is exactly the nonsense that I was talking about upthread when I said that for some people the lack of a clear cut top tier in the sec equate to everyone being awesome. @TrashMaster G

This equates to nothing more than “I think uga and bama are awesome so their losses don’t mean anything.” And not only does uga losing twice not mean anything, but ole miss and tenn must also be awesome since they beat uga and bama. And we’re again supposed to just ignore losses to Vanderbilt, Kentucky, and Arkansas. He went so far as to call out LSU as a good win. LSU fucking sucks. Southern cal beat LSU week 1 and absolutely no one will try to claim them as a quality win for psu or nd. 

Do I think Indiana would be favored against bama? No, but they’ve smoked everyone they’ve played, didnt play Mercer in November, and they also didn’t lose two games including fucking Vanderbilt. 

The bad losses have to mean something but to the sec slobbers it either gets flat out ignored or “actually Vanderbilt, arky, and uk are all really good teams despite what their records say.” 

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10 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

That's a really impressive monologue, but the rest of us are having a discussion about less than optimal results.  You might want to sit this out.

I have for the most part. 

God forbid I provide a bit of level headed sanity to this super productive and super logical pointless teeth grinding. Please, don't let me interrupt. Continue. I'm sure you'll discover the cure for cancer and solve for world piece. 

If my aunt had testicle, she'd be my uncle.

 

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The only plus that a 10-2 Texas has is they will have wins over the teams that took down Tenn, Ole Miss and Bama.

It may not be enough due to lack of top 25 wins unless Florida/Vanderbilt get some late season upsets, but we didn’t lose to Arky, Kentucky or Vandy

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45 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Because none of the people saying Texas shouldn't be in after a loss to aggy have fuck all to do with who makes the CFP.

To be clear, I don't necessarily think they are wrong absent multiple other upsets in that scenario.   Like I said, just win and it doesn't fucking matter.  10 games in and still control our own destiny to land a bye.  Pretty good spot to be.

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I may have missed it earlier but appears Sankey said loser of SEC champ game should not be punished.  13th data point should be a positive even if you lose.  too damn funny.

obviously concerned about aggy or Texas beating Bama and giving them 3rd loss.

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23 minutes ago, heso said:

Do I think Indiana would be favored against bama? No, but they’ve smoked everyone they’ve played, didnt play Mercer in November, and they also didn’t lose two games including fucking Vanderbilt. 

Didn't Indiana also cancel an OOC game against Louisville to stack wins (in their defense, probably hoping for a bowl and not the playoff when the AD made the call).  Indiana's schedule is group of 5 worthy outside of this one game Saturday.  Period.  If they get smoked by 3 TD's, they should take the same nosedive BYU did and frankly behind BYU if BYU wins Saturday.  Because BYU would have 3 or 4 better wins than Indiana.

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17 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I have for the most part. 

God forbid I provide a bit of level headed sanity to this super productive and super logical pointless teeth grinding. Please, don't let me interrupt. Continue. I'm sure you'll discover the cure for cancer and solve for world piece. 

If my aunt had testicle, she'd be my uncle.

 

jeez man. It is the internet, nothing about it is productive since probably 2001.  If you want to end the thread by saying WE DON"T CONTROL ANYTHING ON SURLY, JUS LET IT PLAY OUT!! then maybe the internet isn't for you.

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6 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

jeez man. It is the internet, nothing about it is productive since probably 2001.  If you want to end the thread by saying WE DON"T CONTROL ANYTHING ON SURLY, JUS LET IT PLAY OUT!! then maybe the internet isn't for you.

Yeah, thanks for the tip. You're right. God bless you and your infinite wisdom. 

I will endeavor in the future to fully embrace all aspects of internet dumb fuckery, particularly on Surly and stay in my lane as is it pertains to any and all thought that aren't in line with other.

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20 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The only plus that a 10-2 Texas has is they will have wins over the teams that took down Tenn, Ole Miss and Bama.

It may not be enough due to lack of top 25 wins unless Florida/Vanderbilt get some late season upsets, but we didn’t lose to Arky, Kentucky or Vandy

You jest but I Personally feel like this is legit point. 

We beat all the teams that took down top teams and only lost to some top teams.

Meanwhile most of the top teams each lost to trash. We didn't lose to trash. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Skipper said:

Didn't Indiana also cancel an OOC game against Louisville to stack wins (in their defense, probably hoping for a bowl and not the playoff when the AD made the call).  Indiana's schedule is group of 5 worthy outside of this one game Saturday.  Period.  If they get smoked by 3 TD's, they should take the same nosedive BYU did and frankly behind BYU if BYU wins Saturday.  Because BYU would have 3 or 4 better wins than Indiana.

If Indiana gets blasted by osu on Saturday they should absolutely, and likely will, drop like a stone and unless there are some upsets. A bad loss probably puts them just outside needing an upset or two to get in. They’d need Texas to beat aggy and then another sec team to get a 3rd loss. 

The should also be punished for that non conference schedule, just like ole miss should be for theirs. But at least ole miss played wake. With a loss to osu, they’d probably find themselves wishing they hadn’t can the game with Louisville looking for something to call a quality win. 

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27 minutes ago, heso said:

 

This is so fucking stupid and is exactly the nonsense that I was talking about upthread when I said that for some people the lack of a clear cut top tier in the sec equate to everyone being awesome. @TrashMaster G

This equates to nothing more than “I think uga and bama are awesome so their losses don’t mean anything.” And not only does uga losing twice not mean anything, but ole miss and tenn must also be awesome since they beat uga and bama. And we’re again supposed to just ignore losses to Vanderbilt, Kentucky, and Arkansas. He went so far as to call out LSU as a good win. LSU fucking sucks. Southern cal beat LSU week 1 and absolutely no one will try to claim them as a quality win for psu or nd. 

Do I think Indiana would be favored against bama? No, but they’ve smoked everyone they’ve played, didnt play Mercer in November, and they also didn’t lose two games including fucking Vanderbilt. 

The bad losses have to mean something but to the sec slobbers it either gets flat out ignored or “actually Vanderbilt, arky, and uk are all really good teams despite what their records say.” 

I agree, losses should matter.

I think it’s ridiculous that committee has Bama and Ole Miss ahead of Georgia.

Georgia has two quality wins (Texas and Tennessee) and no bad losses only two quality losses (Bama/Ole Miss)

Bama has one quality win (UGA) and one bad loss (Vandy) and one quality loss (Tenn)

Ole Miss has one quality win (UGA) and two bad losses (LSU/Kentucky)

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29 minutes ago, heso said:

 

This is so fucking stupid and is exactly the nonsense that I was talking about upthread when I said that for some people the lack of a clear cut top tier in the sec equate to everyone being awesome. @TrashMaster G

This equates to nothing more than “I think uga and bama are awesome so their losses don’t mean anything.” And not only does uga losing twice not mean anything, but ole miss and tenn must also be awesome since they beat uga and bama. And we’re again supposed to just ignore losses to Vanderbilt, Kentucky, and Arkansas. He went so far as to call out LSU as a good win. LSU fucking sucks. Southern cal beat LSU week 1 and absolutely no one will try to claim them as a quality win for psu or nd. 

Do I think Indiana would be favored against bama? No, but they’ve smoked everyone they’ve played, didnt play Mercer in November, and they also didn’t lose two games including fucking Vanderbilt. 

The bad losses have to mean something but to the sec slobbers it either gets flat out ignored or “actually Vanderbilt, arky, and uk are all really good teams despite what their records say.” 

You're putting a lot of words in people's mouths and I'm not sure you've done much of a deep dive on some of the scheduling stuff. In fact, you're pretty much awarding Indiana a high ranking BECAUSE they're schedule is dogshit.

What do you think IU is sitting at if they had already played Clemson, Bama, Texas, Tenn, Ole Miss, Kentucky and Florida? 

Penn State has lost to the one good team they've played. Ohio State is 1-1 against quality opponents. Indiana hasn't played ANYBODY. 

Some of the B10 scheduling is a joke this year with those teams. Sure - so is the SEC Nov FCS shit - but outside of Texas all of the 2 loss SEC teams have had a much tougher slate than any B10 team in the top 10. Let alone fucking Miami who the CFP has 8.

Are you going to sit here and with a straight face tell us that Indiana is still better than all of the 2 loss SEC teams if they lose to Ohio State? 

I'm not sobbing over the SEC. I'm looking at this objectively - like an adult - and seeing where a lot of these teams sit in the most predictive metrics and concluding that this set of rankings sucks.

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Jesus Christ on crutches, we aren't losing to those sheep fucking weirdo aggys. Good lord. 

They have, again, a shit QB, no offensive identity, no RB, no WRs worth a shit, no TE, and an average defense. 

Quinn with a puss, er I mean abdominal strain could beat them. We are literally better in every aspect. I don't give a shit if it's at night in that bat shit covered stadium, we aren't losing. None of those morons on that team know what it's like to play us. It's just another game for us to beat them in. They can hype themselves up all they want, but remember, they barely put up 38 points against NMSU, and it was 7-3 in the 3rd qrt. 

Man, y'all gotta stop worrying. You're starting to sound like Bobby and Gerry against Michigan, ou, Vandy, and Arky. Just trembling that an upset can happen. No shit it could. Will it? Fucking mo. 

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13 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Jesus Christ on crutches, we aren't losing to those sheep fucking weirdo aggys. Good lord. 

They have, again, a shit QB, no offensive identity, no RB, no WRs worth a shit, no TE, and an average defense. 

Quinn with a puss, er I mean abdominal strain could beat them. We are literally better in every aspect. I don't give a shit if it's at night in that bat shit covered stadium, we aren't losing. None of those morons on that team know what it's like to play us. It's just another game for us to beat them in. They can hype themselves up all they want, but remember, they barely put up 38 points against NMSU, and it was 7-3 in the 3rd qrt. 

Man, y'all gotta stop worrying. You're starting to sound like Bobby and Gerry against Michigan, ou, Vandy, and Arky. Just trembling that an upset can happen. No shit it could. Will it? Fucking mo. 

I can't wait to see the line on that game.

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13 minutes ago, ztejas said:

You're putting a lot of words in people's mouths and I'm not sure you've done much of a deep dive on some of the scheduling stuff. In fact, you're pretty much awarding Indiana a high ranking BECAUSE they're schedule is dogshit.

What do you think IU is sitting at if they had already played Clemson, Bama, Texas, Tenn, Ole Miss, Kentucky and Florida? 

Penn State has lost to the one good team they've played. Ohio State is 1-1 against quality opponents. Indiana hasn't played ANYBODY. 

Some of the B10 scheduling is a joke this year with those teams. Sure - so is the SEC Nov FCS shit - but outside of Texas all of the 2 loss SEC teams have had a much tougher slate than any B10 team in the top 10. Let alone fucking Miami who the CFP has 8.

Are you going to sit here and with a straight face tell us that Indiana is still better than all of the 2 loss SEC teams if they lose to Ohio State? 

I'm not sobbing over the SEC. I'm looking at this objectively - like an adult - and seeing where a lot of these teams sit in the most predictive metrics and concluding that this set of rankings sucks.

Neither you, nor that asshat in the video that you said you couldn’t disagree with was talking about Indiana after a loss to Ohio state. This set of rankings is looking at where Indiana is right now. And where a bunch of 2 loss sec teams with bad losses are right now. And they are rightfully below Indiana. 

Indiana’s schedule is all in front of them. If they beat osu on Saturday they’ll be playing Oregon for the 1 seed. If they lose close to osu they’ll probably have to go play a 1st round game in Athens or Tuscaloosa. If they lose bad, they probably need an upset to get in at all. 

Even your guy in the video says how he normally has the stance of losses matter but… and then goes on to say that because he thinks the 2 loss sec teams are good and Indiana and Penn state aren’t, that the losses don’t matter. And that’s just fucking stupid. 

I hope Indiana makes it in. I’d love to see them somehow end up hosting one of the 2 loss sec teams. Bama, ole miss, and tenn have all shown that they are capable of losing to teams that are worse than Washington or Michigan. And while IU doesn’t have a win like any of those teams, they don’t have a loss, let alone 2 losses. 

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48 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Jesus Christ on crutches, we aren't losing to those sheep fucking weirdo aggys. Good lord. 

They have, again, a shit QB, no offensive identity, no RB, no WRs worth a shit, no TE, and an average defense. 

Quinn with a puss, er I mean abdominal strain could beat them. We are literally better in every aspect. I don't give a shit if it's at night in that bat shit covered stadium, we aren't losing. None of those morons on that team know what it's like to play us. It's just another game for us to beat them in. They can hype themselves up all they want, but remember, they barely put up 38 points against NMSU, and it was 7-3 in the 3rd qrt. 

Man, y'all gotta stop worrying. You're starting to sound like Bobby and Gerry against Michigan, ou, Vandy, and Arky. Just trembling that an upset can happen. No shit it could. Will it? Fucking mo. 

7-3 in the 3rd qtr Aggies vs NM St?

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1 hour ago, TornACL said:

We all saw what happened when everybody was sucking our dick.

 

Wait. Was there a sign up? Did I need to stand in line somewhere?  Because this was not happening in my household, and even if it was I’m not sure why it would have caused the football team to lose. 

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These people are so fucking scared that we are going to ruin college football and I am here for it.  We are going to ruin it cocksuckers so get ready.  Maybe it will be this year and maybe it won’t, but fear not we are here to stomp it out of existence.  Those that doubt us SUCK COCK BY CHOICE!

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4 hours ago, Js1 said:

It is not our fault we played an easier SEC schedule - blame the conference schedule makers. Michigan was a marquee matchup before Harbaugh left. Texas is beating teams they should and only dropped a game against a top 5 UGA. We do not have losses to unranked SEC teams (like Bama and Tenn and Ole Miss) or 2 losses (like Georgia, one of which was an 18 point loss and the other, they were down 30-7)

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6 hours ago, heso said:

Neither you, nor that asshat in the video that you said you couldn’t disagree with was talking about Indiana after a loss to Ohio state. This set of rankings is looking at where Indiana is right now. And where a bunch of 2 loss sec teams with bad losses are right now. And they are rightfully below Indiana. 

Indiana’s schedule is all in front of them. If they beat osu on Saturday they’ll be playing Oregon for the 1 seed. If they lose close to osu they’ll probably have to go play a 1st round game in Athens or Tuscaloosa. If they lose bad, they probably need an upset to get in at all. 

Even your guy in the video says how he normally has the stance of losses matter but… and then goes on to say that because he thinks the 2 loss sec teams are good and Indiana and Penn state aren’t, that the losses don’t matter. And that’s just fucking stupid. 

I hope Indiana makes it in. I’d love to see them somehow end up hosting one of the 2 loss sec teams. Bama, ole miss, and tenn have all shown that they are capable of losing to teams that are worse than Washington or Michigan. And while IU doesn’t have a win like any of those teams, they don’t have a loss, let alone 2 losses. 

You seem overly defensive about this. Ryen Russillo is not an "asshat". You can agree with him or not but he's a multimillionaire and - in my opinion - one of the best voices on cfb and the NBA that there is going today. 

I'm happy to revisit this with you after the playoffs where I'm assuming that the SEC will dominate.

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7 hours ago, heso said:

Even your guy in the video says how he normally has the stance of losses matter but… and then goes on to say that because he thinks the 2 loss sec teams are good and Indiana and Penn state aren’t, that the losses don’t matter. And that’s just fucking stupid. 


When there’s that big of a difference in schedule, you can’t punish the team that actually played reasonable opponents. When Indiana loses competitively, say by 7-10 points, to Ohio State, they will have absolutely no argument that they deserve a playoff spot over a team like Tennessee or Bama or Georgia or ole Miss. If Indiana gets rolled, you might as well be arguing that mizzou is a playoff team.

If Texas loses the SEC championship game, I hope we get to play a 1 loss Indiana or Boise State. Theyre the weakest teams in the conversation 

 

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Per Klatt: the argument that hurts Texas is that a playoff contender’s ceiling is demonstrated by their best win. So far, Texas’ best wins are Michigan or Vandy. That’s our problem. If the Horns win out, Texas’ best win will be TAMU. 

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