2024 CFB polls/rankings - Texas #3/ #4 /#4 (CFP/AP/Coaches)

[notre dame joe 201]

30 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

prepare yourself.  They are going to get he 5 seed and be in the semi's because they will play the #12 at home and #11(or #14) at a neutral site

If only. Not only are we ineligible for a bye but it looks like the number five boobie prize is reserved for the loser of the Big ten championship game.  It remains to be seen whether this is The New normal or an aberration with so many one loss teams near the top of one conference.

[closetohumping 17704]

4 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

If only. Not only are we ineligible for a bye but it looks like the number five boobie prize is reserved for the loser of the Big ten championship game.  It remains to be seen whether this is The New normal or an aberration with so many one loss teams near the top of one conference.

It’ll usually be an fcs team

[Tex Long 4557]

33 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

prepare yourself.  They are going to get he 5 seed and be in the semi's because they will play the #12 at home and #11(or #14) at a neutral site

I thought the second round would maintain standard seeding matchups? In round 1, #5 plays #12, #6 vs #11, #7 vs #10, #8 vs #9.

Winner of #5 vs #12 plays #4 in second round, and so on.

[The_Great_Hornsby 3585]

38 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

prepare yourself.  They are going to get he 5 seed and be in the semi's because they will play the #12 at home and #11(or #14) at a neutral site

Oregon will get the 5 seed imo

[Pimphand 6231]

Playoff predictor: https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/cfbplayoffpredictor2024/

Scenario 1: Beat A&M & Georgia
Result: Rematch with Georgia then take out Miami & Alabama

Scenario 2: Beat A&M lose to Georgia
Result: Open with Bama in Austin lose to Bama but lulz at them having Notre Dame win

Scenario 3: Lose to A&M
Result: We go to Autzen and win then upset Miami before losing to Tennessee (lulz)


Observations:
They seem confident that Tulane is the 12 seed (all 3 times) same with Boise State at the 4 seed.
They have 4 SEC teams in all 3 scenarios with Alabama (wut?), Georgia, & Texas in all and with S Car in 1, Tenneessee in 2.

Edited November 25 by Pimphand

[dcar00 14867]

30 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

I thought the second round would maintain standard seeding matchups? In round 1, #5 plays #12, #6 vs #11, #7 vs #10, #8 vs #9.

Winner of #5 vs #12 plays #4 in second round, and so on.

yes but the 4 seed is the worst conf champ.  they would be ranked #11 or #12 in a 1 thur 12 scenario

[jimmyjazz 46755]

10 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

yes but the 4 seed is the worst conf champ.  

The 4 seed is the second worst conference champ, right?

[The_Great_Hornsby 3585]

32 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

Playoff predictor: https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/cfbplayoffpredictor2024/

Scenario 1: Beat A&M & Georgia
Result: Rematch with Georgia then take out Miami & Alabama

Scenario 2: Beat A&M lose to Georgia
Result: Open with Bama in Austin lose to Bama but lulz at them having Notre Dame win

Scenario 3: Lose to A&M
Result: We go to Autzen and win then upset Miami before losing to Tennessee (lulz)


Observations:
They seem confident that Tulane is the 12 seed (all 3 times) same with Boise State at the 4 seed.
They have 4 SEC teams in all 3 scenarios with Alabama (wut?), Georgia, & Texas in all and with S Car in 1, Tenneessee in 2.

Wait, are they suggesting that the Big 12 could get NOBODY in? Lolz

6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The 4 seed is the second worst conference champ, right?

It is the 4th highest ranked conference champion. 12 seed is the 5th. 

[Pimphand 6231]

2 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Wait, are they suggesting that the Big 12 could get NOBODY in? Lolz

It is the 4th highest ranked conference champion. 12 seed is the 5th. 

Yes & correct

[jimmyjazz 46755]

2 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

It is the 4th highest ranked conference champion. 12 seed is the 5th. 

So, what I said.  I believe the lowest conf champ (of 5) gets their seed, so if the CFP has them ranked (say) 10, they are the 10th seed.

[The_Great_Hornsby 3585]

9 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

So, what I said.  I believe the lowest conf champ (of 5) gets their seed, so if the CFP has them ranked (say) 10, they are the 10th seed.

Correct

9 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

Yes & correct

I think there is almost no way that could happen, right? Tulane would never get in over Colorado. 

[Pimphand 6231]

1 minute ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Correct

I think there is almost no way that could happen, right? Tulane would never get in over Colorado. 

I didn't say they would just saying that's what the playoff predictor picked 100% of the time I fucked with it.

[dcar00 14867]

25 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The 4 seed is the second worst conference champ, right?

I meant the worst conf champ from the 4 that are left after 12 seed is decided.

[dcar00 14867]

OK my assumption was they would never leave out the Big 12 conf champ but I guess who knows.

['stache 22084]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

OK my assumption was they would never leave out the Big 12 conf champ but I guess who knows.

If the Big XII conference champ has 4 losses, which is one of the crazy possiblities as it stands right now, I think they could very easily get left out for a 1 loss Army or even 2 loss Tulane. 

I think the rule is written pretty well currently. There's no need to reserve spots for specific conferences. SEC and BIG will never be in that position, but Big XII and ACC very well could, including this year since the Big XII has gone full chaos these last few weeks.

[Magus Ossis 2984]

3 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

OK my assumption was they would never leave out the Big 12 conf champ but I guess who knows.

There may be some hesitation to leave out a P4 champ, and I think the assumption was that they would certainly all be in the top 5. The rules allow them to be excluded, however, and it would be hilarious.

[field 242]

8 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

OK my assumption was they would never leave out the Big 12 conf champ but I guess who knows.

nevermind

Edited November 25 by field

[jimmyjazz 46755]

3 minutes ago, field said:

The Big 12 conference champion is guaranteed a spot in the playoffs, as are the ACC, Big 10 and SEC conference champions.  The highest ranked G5 conference champion is also guaranteed a spot in the playoffs. 

No.  The 4 highest-ranked conference champions are guaranteed spots 1-4 in order of CFP ranking.  The 5th highest rank champion also gets a spot, seeded at their rank (or #12 at a minimum).

[field 242]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

No.  The 4 highest-ranked conference champions are guaranteed spots 1-4 in order of CFP ranking.  The 5th highest rank champion also gets a spot, seeded at their rank (or #12 at a minimum).

Correct.

Who qualifies for the college football playoff?

The five highest-ranked conference champions and the next seven highest-ranked teams will earn a spot in the 12-team bracket. There is no limit to how many teams from one conference can qualify. The rules also don't guarantee spots for certain conferences. The champions of the Big 12, SEC, ACC and Big Ten will almost certainly routinely qualify, though, along with the highest-ranked champion from the Mountain West, American Athletic Conference, Sun Belt, Mid-American Conference or Conference USA.

There is no minimum ranking requirement for the five highest-ranked conference champions. There could be a conference champion ranked No. 23, for example, that's the fifth highest-ranked league winner and earns a spot in the playoff -- at the expense of the committee's No. 12 team.

[Stilicho 1422]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

No.  The 4 highest-ranked conference champions are guaranteed spots 1-4 in order of CFP ranking.  The 5th highest rank champion also gets a spot, seeded at their rank (or #12 at a minimum).

Yeah. I think if Tulane and Boise are ranked higher than the Big 12, then the they’re out.

[notre dame joe 201]

1 minute ago, Stilicho said:

Yeah. I think if Tulane and Boise are ranked higher than the Big 12, then the they’re out.

They would likely find another non-champ Big12 team.   They would not leave that faction out altogether. 

[Js1 86387]

I don’t think the Big 12 will get left out barring super chaos this weekend and the Big 12 champ ends up anyone other than CU, BYU, ASU or ISU

Edited November 25 by Js1

[dcar00 14867]

6 minutes ago, field said:

Correct.

Who qualifies for the college football playoff?

The five highest-ranked conference champions and the next seven highest-ranked teams will earn a spot in the 12-team bracket. There is no limit to how many teams from one conference can qualify. The rules also don't guarantee spots for certain conferences. The champions of the Big 12, SEC, ACC and Big Ten will almost certainly routinely qualify, though, along with the highest-ranked champion from the Mountain West, American Athletic Conference, Sun Belt, Mid-American Conference or Conference USA.

There is no minimum ranking requirement for the five highest-ranked conference champions. There could be a conference champion ranked No. 23, for example, that's the fifth highest-ranked league winner and earns a spot in the playoff -- at the expense of the committee's No. 12 team.

so it truly only guarantees a spot for the highest G5 conf champion.  yes I know there would never be a case where 2 of the P4 are left out but I guess 1 being left out is possible.

Let's make it happen this year boys!

[jimmyjazz 46755]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

so it truly only guarantees a spot for the highest G5 conf champion. 

Interesting way to put it, and 100% correct.  Not that it really illuminates things, but still correct.

[dcar00 14867]

THe Big 12 champ winner is going to get a bump.  I will be like NCAA basketball where if you win the conf tourney it helps but losing in the final or even in semi's/quarters doesn't really hurt.

speaking of the conf tournaments in basketball, those are going to be nuts this year.

[WBT 20832]

50 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

OK my assumption was they would never leave out the Big 12 conf champ but I guess who knows.

Not only will they not leave them out, but I believe they'll be no lower than the #4 seed. 

Do y'all really believe that the committee will set the precedent of jumping a P4 champ with a non-undefeated G5 team that has no P4 wins and three 1-score conference  wins in the first year of this format?

[Js1 86387]

1 minute ago, WBT said:

Not only will they not leave them out, but I believe they'll be no lower than the #4 seed. 

Do y'all really believe that the committee will set the precedent of jumping a P4 champ with a non-undefeated G5 team that has no P4 wins and three 1-score conference  wins in the first year of this format?

Nope. There’s no incentive for the Big 12 or ACC to even play this game if their champ gets left out 

[The Dog 44630]

???????

[MrBig 5573]

If Aggy beat us, went to the SEC Championship and beat Georgia, I can see the CFP not giving a 3 loss SEC Champ one of the top four auto bids. 

[kevwun 16094]

We win out and somehow Miami jumps us in the seeding?  Seems well thought out.  I assume Danny has CTE.

Edited November 25 by kevwun

['stache 22084]

21 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

THe Big 12 champ winner is going to get a bump.  I will be like NCAA basketball where if you win the conf tourney it helps but losing in the final or even in semi's/quarters doesn't really hurt.

speaking of the conf tournaments in basketball, those are going to be nuts this year.

As discussed in the other thread, there is a scenario where Baylor can win the Big XII CCG and finish with 4 losses. It's a very unlikely scenario but still possible. I'm not sure there would be any valid argument to rank them above 1 loss Boise and 1 loss Army assuming both win out including their CCGs. The odds however strongly favor either BYU, ASU, or ISU being a 2 loss champ in which case they almost certainly get the 4th bye. A three loss CU would be a closer call. 

Edited November 25 by 'stache

[The Original Greaser Bob 2867]

Please, please let SMU beat Georgia.

[The_Great_Hornsby 3585]

12 minutes ago, The Dog said:

???????

I can't evert conjure up a scenario where this is possible. Even if Miami wins 100-0 against smu

[The_Great_Hornsby 3585]

6 minutes ago, 'stache said:

As discussed in the other thread, there is a scenario where Baylor can win the Big XII CCG and finish with 4 losses. It's a very unlikely scenario but still possible. I'm not sure there would be any valid argument to rank them above 1 loss Boise and 1 loss Army assuming both win out including their CCGs. The odds however strongly favor either BYU, ASU, or ISU being a 2 loss champ in which case they almost certainly get the 4th bye. A three loss CU would be a closer call. 

There is no planet where a big 12 champ Colorado gets left out of the playoffs. None, zero, zilch.

['stache 22084]

1 minute ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

There is no planet where a big 12 champ Colorado gets left out of the playoffs. None, zero, zilch.

If they end up a conference champs with 3 losses I think they are in the playoff but could lose out on the first round bye. Unlikely, but possible. My comment was about the bye.

Edited November 25 by 'stache

[Tex Long 4557]

2 hours ago, dcar00 said:

yes but the 4 seed is the worst conf champ.  they would be ranked #11 or #12 in a 1 thur 12 scenario

The Committee will decide that, thank you very much.

The point being that #4 will play the winner of #5 and #12.

[dcar00 14867]

3 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

The Committee will decide that, thank you very much.

The point being that #4 will play the winner of #5 and #12.

yes but #4 wouldn't be #4 at all if you ranked them 1 through 12 at the start like the do in the NCAA tournament. 

[Pimphand 6231]

44 minutes ago, kevwun said:

We win out and somehow Miami jumps us in the seeding?  Seems well thought out.  I assume Danny has CTE.

He's without a doubt the worst when it comes to former QBs who are now analysts. McElroy & Klatt absolutely crush him

[notre dame joe 201]

1 hour ago, MrBig said:

If Aggy beat us, went to the SEC Championship and beat Georgia, I can see the CFP not giving a 3 loss SEC Champ one of the top four auto bids. 

Not this year, the SEC champ easily gets a bye.

 

Maybe, hypothetically, if every G5 was 13-0 and the SEC champ had lost to one of them.

[Tex Long 4557]

30 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

yes but #4 wouldn't be #4 at all if you ranked them 1 through 12 at the start like the do in the NCAA tournament. 

The top 4 conference champs get the top 4 seeds. The order is... flexible.

The biggest thing I see is that ACC and XII are not shoo-ins, altough it seems like ACC will be 3rd highest conf champ, but 4th seems like Boise or XII winner, whichever is higher ranked. 

Whoever is seeded #5 plays #12, winner plays #4. Reckon #5 is B1G CCG loser or  tOSU or UO, could be Norte Dome. Since #4 is shitty XII or Boise, likely #5 moves on.

The Committee is prolly gonna try to seed to set up SEC-B1G Grande Finale, so no telling. They have a lot of latitude, and the "rules" mostly aren't hard, but they're great for justufucation.

[Tex Long 4557]

Just now, notre dame joe said:

Not this year, the SEC champ easily gets a bye.

 

Maybe, hypothetically, if every G5 was 13-0 and the SEC champ had lost to one of them.

You know, like, maybe, Northern Illinois?

[WBT 20832]

1 hour ago, dcar00 said:

yes but #4 wouldn't be #4 at all if you ranked them 1 through 12 at the start like the do in the NCAA tournament. 

Ok, cool

[jimmyjazz 46755]

17 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

You know, like, maybe, Northern Illinois?

[David Dennison 19314]

Lulz at 88% if we lose to aggy.

[The_Great_Hornsby 3585]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Lulz at 88% if we lose to aggy.

Yeah, its 100% either way. That prediction machine is worthless. We really need to win the SEC championship. Would be very shitty to end up the 6/7 seed after a second loss to Georgia and have to play on much less rest than everyone else. 

[Zeus 6717]

3 hours ago, Stilicho said:

Yeah. I think if Tulane and Boise are ranked higher than the Big 12, then the they’re out.

Holy shit that would be great

then this retard tries to sue the committee or something

 

then THE ENTIRE BIG12 turns into FSU next year lmao

[Zeus 6717]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

Nope. There’s no incentive for the Big 12 or ACC to even play this game if their champ gets left out 

Why play any games?

[Zeus 6717]

2 hours ago, WBT said:

Not only will they not leave them out, but I believe they'll be no lower than the #4 seed. 

Do y'all really believe that the committee will set the precedent of jumping a P4 champ with a non-undefeated G5 team that has no P4 wins and three 1-score conference  wins in the first year of this format?

There’s no power 4 though…

 

sec

big10

–power gap—

acc

big12

mountain west

aac 

 

[WBT 20832]

1 minute ago, Zeus said:

There’s no power 4 though…

 

there was damn sure a power 4 involved in creating the playoff structure

[Zeus 6717]

5 minutes ago, WBT said:

there was damn sure a power 4 involved in creating the playoff structure

Actually all the conferences and notre dame all met to create the new playoff system. 
 

There used to be a P5 before the Pac12 was dismantled and we left. Notice how the good teams went to the SEC and big10 and the bad teams all went to the ACC and big12. 
 

There isn’t a power 4 it’s the top 4 ranked teams from any conference get put into the top 4 seeds and get a bye (for playing in and winning their conference championship). 
 

Boise State is in the 4th seed if they win out over the big12 champ, and depending on how it plays out the big12 will be lucky to get a 11 or 12 seed. 
 

TLDR: Brett Yormack is a bitch and he’s got the same amount of power as the other 8 conferences below the sec and big10.