2024 CFB polls/rankings - Texas #3/ #4 /#4 (CFP/AP/Coaches)

[WBT 20832]

29 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Boise State is in the 4th seed if they win out over the big12 champ, and depending on how it plays out the big12 will be lucky to get a 11 or 12 seed. 

I guess we'll see.

Sagarin currently has Boise behind 8 XII teams for what it's worth.

[WBT 20832]

The XII is also currently the 2nd rated conference

[Huckleberry 34170]

Yep, lots of shit talking about the Big 12 on this board for obvious reasons but it's still a very good and underrated conference, same as it ever was. 

Edited November 26 by Huckleberry

[Js1 86384]

B1G is super top heavy and then all crap 

[heso 2848]

That playoff predictor is shit. It just gave me this scenario:



The SEC gets 4 teams in and Texas isn’t one of them. SC and Bama both get in.

And Tulane, from the 12 seed beats Oregon, BSU, Tenn, and PSU to win the national championship.

[The_Great_Hornsby 3585]

11 minutes ago, heso said:

That playoff predictor is shit. It just gave me this scenario:



The SEC gets 4 teams in and Texas isn’t one of them. SC and Bama both get in.

And Tulane, from the 12 seed beats Oregon, BSU, Tenn, and PSU to win the national championship.

[Tex Long 4557]

2 hours ago, Tex Long said:

You know, like, maybe, Northern Illinois?

But if it were the SEC champ, maybe Wofford, or Furman?

 

[cmontexas 3318]

Fuck Tech but it would be hilarious for both of us to make the playoff while Aggy and BYU have a weirdoff in the Holiday Bowl

[BurntOrange&White 41352]

[Js1 86384]

Hard pass on conferences matchups in round 1

 

[Yesh 936]

4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

So Texas vs Ohio St in the championship game.

[Bevo Num1 1061]

4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Hard pass on conferences matchups in round 1

 

On the surface I'd agree with you, but you're also less likely to end up with a conference dominating the semifinals. 

[heso 2848]

I’ve looked at like 8-10 bracket predictions for this week and uga-Tenn was the most common first round matchup and I’m just not seeing a scenario where they make that a 1st round game. 

I think far more likely would be:

smu @ psu

tenn @ nd

iu @ uga

[JOSEYWALES66 1850]

9 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

SMU going to ND would be such a gift to ND that it will probably happen.

Hopefully USC beats them. 

[heso 2848]

I think psu is locked into the 6 seed unless uga beats Texas in the championship game. The I could see Texas getting the 6 and psu dropping to 7, nd to 8

Indy @ ut 

smu @ psu

tenn @ nd

 

The other central could move psu out of the 6 seed is Michigan beating osu, which would put psu in the b1g championship game and osu in the mix for the 7-10 range. 

['stache 22084]

12 minutes ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

SMU going to ND would be such a gift to ND that it will probably happen.

Hopefully USC beats them. 

 Not sure how getting your ass beat at home by SMU is a gift. Seriously, ND is gonna lose their playoff game and it would be delicious if it’s to SMU.

Edited November 26 by 'stache

[cmontexas 3318]

Will be hilarious when Boise gets the 4 seed and the bye and then Jeanty doesnt even play vs Ohio State or whoever

['stache 22084]

Why would he sit out? Players only do that for meaningless bowl games. It would be the biggest game in Boise State history.

[Billy Pilgrim 2051]

If Big12 champ gets left out, you’ll see a whole lot more questionable officiating protecting the higher ranked teams next season.

[The_Great_Hornsby 3585]

11 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

Will be hilarious when Boise gets the 4 seed and the bye and then Jeanty doesnt even play vs Ohio State or whoever

[notre dame joe 201]

3 hours ago, 'stache said:

 Not sure how getting your ass beat at home by SMU is a gift. Seriously, ND is gonna lose their playoff game and it would be delicious if it’s to SMU.

I don't think the PC wants the first round chalk full of paired off conference rivals

[52-80 19362]

4 hours ago, 'stache said:

Why would he sit out? Players only do that for meaningless bowl games. It would be the biggest game in Boise State history.

 

 

 

[Bama Llama 1505]

Curt Cignetti just wants Indiana to get in.  Shea Whigham has already signed on to play him in “I win. Google me!” coming soon from Universal.

[Longboard Horn 41265]

 

[WBT 20832]

*will

[BurntEyes 6185]

6 hours ago, notre dame joe said:

I don't think the PC wants the first round chalk full of paired off conference rivals

Honestly it's bad for "business" that being business being ratings.

They will want ND for example to play another Helmet blue bloods if possible in early or later round match up. Texas, Georgia, Bama for example.

ND vs SEC loser in first round, with them matching up much later vs the SEC winner. 

Then they'll look for big cross regional matchups where they can get them Georgia vs Oregon or a Arizona State vs Penn State in the first round. 

That won't be the primary guide for seeding but will absolutely be a substantial factor. 

[alincoln 2387]

Exactly.  A made for television event is going to be made for television. 

['stache 22084]

4 hours ago, 52-80 said:

 

 

 

I’m talking about going into the game, neither of those was for a national title shot.

[52-80 19362]

2 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I’m talking about going into the game, neither of those was for a national title shot.

But this is just quarterfinals so far, not even semifinals. It's still distant to the final.

In 09 it was undefeated vs undefeated and they were vying to earn the best finish in school history (even if not in the actual ncg.. they ended up at #2 in coaches poll).

[closetojumping 64730]

So it’s completely possible that if Boise State wins out and Tulane wins out, the Big 12 gets shut out from the CFP altogether? 

This shit keeps getting better and better. 

[Js1 86384]

1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

So it’s completely possible that if Boise State wins out and Tulane wins out, the Big 12 gets shut out from the CFP altogether? 

This shit keeps getting better and better. 

Feels unlikely. Tulane has 2 losses to Big 12 teams. 

[BurntEyes 6185]

9 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

So it’s completely possible that if Boise State wins out and Tulane wins out, the Big 12 gets shut out from the CFP altogether? 

This shit keeps getting better and better. 

At this point if they shoved CU in and left out the Big 12 champ, I wouldn't even be surprised.

[Zeus 6717]

1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

Honestly it's bad for "business" that being business being ratings.

They will want ND for example to play another Helmet blue bloods if possible in early or later round match up. Texas, Georgia, Bama for example.

ND vs SEC loser in first round, with them matching up much later vs the SEC winner. 

Then they'll look for big cross regional matchups where they can get them Georgia vs Oregon or a Arizona State vs Penn State in the first round. 

That won't be the primary guide for seeding but will absolutely be a substantial factor. 

Yep. I guess if the big12 team has only 2 losses they will squeak in. But in general I think Boise State is much more marketable than all of the remaining big12 teams besides Colorado.

If the rig12 officials don't push Colorado though they run a real risk of getting left out, depending on who wins and how they play. Arizona State with their best wins being Iowa State and BYU? Losing to Texas Tech and Cincinnati and still make the playoff? 

 

[statsman 5615]

8 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Feels unlikely. Tulane has 2 losses to Big 12 teams. 

Probably. Still, we may not have this talk every year, but it will happen again. It does no good for the Big XII to keep being compared to the Mountain West or AAC, instead of SEC or B1G. 
 
The best thing the B12 has going for it is its media revenue (although worst of the so called P4). The second best thing it has going for it is that its contract is for seven more years. There is a really good chance that the next contract is a big disappointment. 

[closetojumping 64730]

10 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Feels unlikely. Tulane has 2 losses to Big 12 teams. 

Tulane would have beaten a very good Memphis and a good Army to close out their run. I am not saying it’s likely, but it’s closer than people think it is. 

Also, OU is not a Big 12 team any more. 

[Js1 86384]

Just now, closetojumping said:

Tulane would have beaten a very good Memphis and a good Army to close out their run. I am not saying it’s likely, but it’s closer than people think it is. 

Also, OU is not a Big 12 team any more. 

Okay it’s early. And they’ve played like one 

[Chopper 17411]

fwiw

[closetojumping 64730]

I know I’ve said this a few times in the Left Behind thread, but the Big 12 needs to stop scheduling cupcakes in the non-con. They are pussifying their OOCs and adding FCS and G6 opponents almost exclusively.  That’s not going to help their arguments.

A few 10 win teams that beat even middling P4 OOC teams and avoided FCS games would be able to proudly pound their chest that both belong in the CFP irrespective of Big 12 title game results. 

[Pimphand 6231]

I don't see Tulane getting in over a 2 loss B12 champ however if full chaos erupts and 3 of the 4 2 loss teams lose and the 3 loss team wins the CCG you could be in business

[closetojumping 64730]

1 minute ago, Pimphand said:

I don't see Tulane getting in over a 2 loss B12 champ however if full chaos erupts and 3 of the 4 2 loss teams lose and the 3 loss team wins the CCG you could be in business

Yeah, that’s what I meant by “completely possible”. You’d have to have further chaos in the Big 12 before Tulane is a candidate. That’s said, we’re only talking about ASU and ISU each losing another game for it to be a legit thing. 

[Mitch Cumsteen 18879]

2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I know I’ve said this a few times in the Left Behind thread, but the Big 12 needs to stop scheduling cupcakes in the non-con. They are pussifying their OOCs and adding FCS and G6 opponents almost exclusively.  That’s not going to help their arguments.

A few 10 win teams that beat even middling P4 OOC teams and avoided FCS games would be able to proudly pound their chest that both belong in the CFP irrespective of Big 12 title game results. 

I agree 100% but outside of Colorado, they will never do it. Most of them still have the Bill Snyder/Baylor scheduling philosophy of get to 6 wins no matter what, get that bowl paycheck, and don't get the coach fired. They aren't serious about winning or building their brands. They never were. That's one of the reasons we had to get the fuck out of that conference -- they added no value in the non-conference schedule, took zero risks to build themselves up, and were satisfied with a fatwa win over Texas or OU every now and then and cashing that check. 

[statsman 5615]

10 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I know I’ve said this a few times in the Left Behind thread, but the Big 12 needs to stop scheduling cupcakes in the non-con. They are pussifying their OOCs and adding FCS and G6 opponents almost exclusively.  That’s not going to help their arguments.

A few 10 win teams that beat even middling P4 OOC teams and avoided FCS games would be able to proudly pound their chest that both belong in the CFP irrespective of Big 12 title game results. 

They will have to break form from the Snyder model of program building, that so many B12 schools adopted. 
 
The other part of the problem is getting good P4 programs scheduled. The best programs don’t want to go on the road to play in. 45k seat stadium. 
 
Edited- “Jinx, Mitch”

Edited November 26 by statsman

[Huckleberry 34170]

You keep saying things that have no basis in reality.

ACC: 8 of 17 teams averaging under 45k
Big 12: 6 of 16 teams averaging under 45k

Every time you post something about the Big 12 it just confirms that it's a better conference with better fan interest than the ACC.

[MrX 777]

I have a hard time seeing a 10-3 Big 12 champ getting left out in favor of Tulane. The one legit path for the Big 12 to get shut out involved Army going undefeated and that’s done. 

[WBT 20832]

The Big 12 champ is going to jump Boise and be the 4 seed.

Edited November 26 by WBT

['stache 22084]

JFC, you guys are a broken record with alternative facts. Every Big XII team has at least one P4 non-con on their schedule these days (UH and Tech playing Oregon State being the only realignment related exception). Nobody is doing the Bill Snyder schedule anymore and haven't for more than a decade. Of course, some matchups are way better than others, but they aren't all G6 and FCS. Here's are the Big XII P4 noncon matchups for next year:

KSU @ Arizona (pre-realignment noncon)

ASU @ Miss St.

Auburn @ Baylor

Baylor @ SMU

Stanford @ BYU

Cincy v. Nebraska

GT @ Colorado

UH @ Oregon State (non P4 anymore but still good)

ISU v. Iowa

KU @ Mizzou

TCU @ UNC

SMU @ TCU

OKST @ Oregon (FUCK!)

Tech v. Oregon State (see UH above)

UCF v. UNC

Utah @ UCLA

Pitt @ WVU

Edited November 26 by 'stache

[DaysOff 8104]

Strange year in cfb. I'm having a hard time coming up with 12 worthy teams, but I guess that was the point of an expanded playoff.

[EastTexan 664]

2 hours ago, 'stache said:

I’m talking about going into the game, neither of those was for a national title shot.

Yep. But the first one was funny and made that bowl game rank up near the top of my list.

['stache 22084]

16 minutes ago, EastTexan said:

Yep. But the first one was funny and made that bowl game rank up near the top of my list.

Very true, I was watching with my then brother-in-law, an OU fan who never attended and held some online degree from university of something. It was glorious.

[BigHornedLurker 2088]

42 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

Strange year in cfb. I'm having a hard time coming up with 12 worthy teams, but I guess that was the point of an expanded playoff.

Yup. Gonna be a lot of angry SEC fans .

Another round of chaos this weekend could lead to the playoffs getting totally neutered if some of these bubble teams lose again and school like Tulane and other mids sneak in