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  On 11/27/2024 at 4:48 AM, Skipper said:

I would be pretty shocked if the committee jumped PSU over Texas after taking a loss in the SEC championship game while PSU sat on their ass at home. If we win Saturday I think either 2 or 6 slot depending on outcome of SEC championship is all but set in stone.

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Exactly. 2 and 7 lineup in those Bowl quarterfinals. Im sure Sugar Bowl committee would be psyched to get Georgia trying to 99 Jaguars us. But if only 3 SEC teams are in they'll slot at 2, 6 and 9 to have a shot at 3 teams in the Semis

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  On 11/27/2024 at 4:26 AM, BurntOrange&White said:

These people actually just copy me it’s insane

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Championship game on the 20th of January. What a time to be alive.

The first 12 Superbowls were wraped up between the 9th and 18th of January prior to adding wild card weekend. SB13 through SB35 were still all in January.

College was done on Jan 1 except for all star games at one time back in the 80s.

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  On 11/27/2024 at 1:24 PM, Jiggy-Z said:

Championship game on the 20th of January. What a time to be alive.

The first 12 Superbowls were wraped up between the 9th and 18th of January prior to adding wild card weekend. SB13 through SB35 were still all in January.

College was done on Jan 1 except for all star games at one time back in the 80s.

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It is pretty wild but I'll never be upset at the offseasons being shorter!

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  On 11/27/2024 at 2:09 AM, closetohumping said:

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So if Ohio State loses to Michigan Saturday and to Oregon again they still make the playoffs? That's lame as fuck tbh.

This 12 team playoff actually seems way shittier than just expanding it to 8. We will see how it plays out though it could be cool to have a 9-12 ranked team make a deep run, although I don't think there will ever be a case where one of the top 4 doesn't win. 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 1:42 PM, immamac said:

So if Ohio State loses to Michigan Saturday and to Oregon again they still make the playoffs? That's lame as fuck tbh.

This 12 team playoff actually seems way shittier than just expanding it to 8. We will see how it plays out though it could be cool to have a 9-12 ranked team make a deep run, although I don't think there will ever be a case where one of the top 4 doesn't win. 

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Thinking it’s based on the sec/big second place team is guaranteed a seat at the table 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 1:42 PM, immamac said:

So if Ohio State loses to Michigan Saturday and to Oregon again they still make the playoffs? That's lame as fuck tbh.

This 12 team playoff actually seems way shittier than just expanding it to 8. We will see how it plays out though it could be cool to have a 9-12 ranked team make a deep run, although I don't think there will ever be a case where one of the top 4 doesn't win. 

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IMO the byes is what makes it seem so shitty. Expand the bitch to 16 with no byes. Far better....top 8 seeds host 1st round. The byes make it to where seeding is all fucked and stupid.

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  On 11/27/2024 at 1:42 PM, immamac said:

So if Ohio State loses to Michigan Saturday and to Oregon again they still make the playoffs? That's lame as fuck tbh.

This 12 team playoff actually seems way shittier than just expanding it to 8. We will see how it plays out though it could be cool to have a 9-12 ranked team make a deep run, although I don't think there will ever be a case where one of the top 4 doesn't win. 

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They would lose to Michigan and Pedo State or Indiana would go face the Ducks not the Suckeyes.

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  On 11/27/2024 at 1:45 PM, BurntOrange&White said:

IMO the byes is what makes it seem so shitty. Expand the bitch to 16 with no byes. Far better....top 8 seeds host 1st round. The byes make it to where seeding is all fucked and stupid.

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The byes are the only thing keeping the conference championship games alive and no doubt you will get continued commentary around cancelling those regardless.  I'm coming around to the idea of an expanded 16 team playoff and pod system in SEC/BIG where last 2 weeks of regular season effectively become conference playoff.  4 pod winners advance (other 2 seeds play 2 seeds, etc) and mini 4 team SEC/BIG playoff for seeding where all 4 teams that win their pod are guaranteed a spot.  Then your 2 seeds still playing for potential at large spots.  Lots of details/logistics to work out with that model but it seems to have potential.   As the current conference championship game with unbalanced schedules and crazy tiebreakers (with coaches already publicly questioning whether it's worth it) may not last much longer.

I mean look at PSU.  They get another cakewalk this week then get to rest of for a guaranteed home playoff game.

 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 2:21 PM, Skipper said:

The byes are the only thing keeping the conference championship games alive and no doubt you will get continued commentary around cancelling those regardless.  I'm coming around to the idea of an expanded 16 team playoff and pod system in SEC/BIG where last 2 weeks of regular season effectively become conference playoff.  4 pod winners advance (other 2 seeds play 2 seeds, etc) and mini 4 team SEC/BIG playoff for seeding where all 4 teams that win their pod are guaranteed a spot.  Then your 2 seeds still playing for potential at large spots.  Lots of details/logistics to work out with that model but it seems to have potential.   As the current conference championship game with unbalanced schedules and crazy tiebreakers (with coaches already publicly questioning whether it's worth it) may not last much longer.

I mean look at PSU.  They get another cakewalk this week then get to rest of for a guaranteed home playoff game.

 

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Networks are whats keeping the CCGs alive IMO. They want that extra game because they generally bring big ratings. 

In the 16 team format it would be auto bids to the CCG participants to ensure the CCG still means something.  BIG/SEC are pushing for 4 autos moving forward. 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 2:22 PM, BurntOrange&White said:

Networks are whats keeping the CCGs alive IMO. They want that extra game because they generally bring big ratings. 

In the 16 team format it would be auto bids to the CCG participants to ensure the CCG still means something.  BIG/SEC are pushing for 4 autos moving forward. 

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Championship games are 100% money grabs.  That is obvious.  But if you take away the potential for a bye they are done.  An auto bid (without a bye) would mean absolutely nothing in the BIG/SEC as the conference champ is already getting a playoff bid.  

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  On 11/27/2024 at 2:22 PM, BurntOrange&White said:

Networks are whats keeping the CCGs alive IMO. They want that extra game because they generally bring big ratings. 

In the 16 team format it would be auto bids to the CCG participants to ensure the CCG still means something.  BIG/SEC are pushing for 4 autos moving forward. 

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They're "pushing" rope, right now. The SEC may not even get 4 teams in this cycle if merit matters and chalks win out. The 4 autobid thing makes a lot more sense with 16 teams. 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 2:42 AM, ztejas said:

Committe loves them some fucking Miami for whatever reason. 

I guess it benefits SMU for them to be as high as possible. 

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Yeah it's pretty crazy, they won a lot of games by a cunt hair at the very end. 

They are going to get smacked in the mouth by SMU. 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 1:42 PM, immamac said:

So if Ohio State loses to Michigan Saturday and to Oregon again they still make the playoffs? That's lame as fuck tbh.

This 12 team playoff actually seems way shittier than just expanding it to 8. We will see how it plays out though it could be cool to have a 9-12 ranked team make a deep run, although I don't think there will ever be a case where one of the top 4 doesn't win. 

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Actually what is more bullshit is Indiana. 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 2:26 PM, closetojumping said:

They're "pushing" rope, right now. The SEC may not even get 4 teams in this cycle if merit matters and chalks win out. The 4 autobid thing makes a lot more sense with 16 teams. 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 2:26 PM, Skipper said:

Championship games are 100% money grabs.  That is obvious.  But if you take away the potential for a bye they are done.  An auto bid (without a bye) would mean absolutely nothing in the BIG/SEC as the conference champ is already getting a playoff bid.  

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Hosting an opening round playoff game is easy. This is the simplest 16 model that would be best for everyone:

P4 CCG participants get Autobids

A potential 16 team format using guesses on CCG participants + current CFP rankings

 

 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 1:42 PM, immamac said:

So if Ohio State loses to Michigan Saturday and to Oregon again they still make the playoffs? That's lame as fuck tbh.

This 12 team playoff actually seems way shittier than just expanding it to 8. We will see how it plays out though it could be cool to have a 9-12 ranked team make a deep run, although I don't think there will ever be a case where one of the top 4 doesn't win. 

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I read this as there is a 2% chance that OSU loses to Michigan bad enough AND enough other teams don't lose for it to matter 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 2:33 PM, Zeus said:

Yeah it's pretty crazy, they won a lot of games by a cunt hair at the very end. 

They are going to get smacked in the mouth by SMU. 

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That is if Syracuse doesn't beat them this weekend. Syracuse +11 seems like a fucking lock to me given its in New York in damn near December.

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  On 11/27/2024 at 2:26 PM, Skipper said:

Championship games are 100% money grabs.  That is obvious.  But if you take away the potential for a bye they are done.  An auto bid (without a bye) would mean absolutely nothing in the BIG/SEC as the conference champ is already getting a playoff bid.  

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It's really dumb for a conference to shoot one of it's top teams in the dick right before the playoffs.  Knocking that team down in the standings also really hurts your bubble teams.  That's what is going to get the conference championship games done away with.

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  On 11/27/2024 at 3:13 PM, kevwun said:

It's really dumb to shoot one of your top teams in the dick right before the playoffs.  That's what is going to get the conference championship games done away with.

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This is less true now than anytime in the history of football.

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Texas and Georgia would both be getting top 6 seeds if they win out.  Instead one of them is going to get dinged because they lost the conference championship game.  The same thing will happen to Oregon and Ohio St.  That's not the in the best interest of the conferences.

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a) Lot's of people saying OSU and Texas would be in a better playoff position if they lose one of the next two games.

b) In the past, CCGs literally cost teams spots in the playoff or major bowls.  CCGs are less impactful now, not more.

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They still have a negative impact though.  Players will get hurt and losing teams will go down in the standings right before the playoffs.  There is no point in having them when there is a 12 team playoff outside of money.  Everything else is a negative.

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  On 11/27/2024 at 3:13 PM, kevwun said:

It's really dumb for a conference to shoot one of it's top teams in the dick right before the playoffs.  Knocking that team down in the standings also really hurts your bubble teams.  That's what is going to get the conference championship games done away with.

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Exactly.  You shoot your dick early in the season and give it time to heal.  With time, everyone forgets it even happened no matter how embarrassing it was. 
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  On 11/27/2024 at 4:34 AM, BurntOrange&White said:

Not necessarily. If Ohio state beats Oregon it would most likely be this:

 

1 Ohio State

5 Oregon

6 Penn St

7 Texas

 

I Think our max is 2 with SEC championship 

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Unless (unlikely) Michigan beats osu, the osu beats oregon by a a score. Then there is a chance for the #1 seed. 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 3:55 PM, BurntOrange&White said:

Agree...just don't know how committee will view Texas vs Ohio St

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Depends how far Ohio State would drop after losing to 6-5 Michigan.  Would be hard for them to leapfrog #2 Texas, who won 6 in a row and beat top 20 aggy and top 10 Georgia back to back.

Alabama dropped 6 spots after losing to OU, so they could drop down to 7-9 and then have to leapfrog a bunch of teams to get the 1 seed, likely including the SEC and ACC CCG winners who only have 1 loss 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 2:34 PM, Zeus said:

Actually what is more bullshit is Indiana. 

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100%. If they lose to Purdue, I would not even consider them for the playoffs. They would never do it, but I wish they would just put Vegas guys on the committee

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  On 11/27/2024 at 2:42 PM, Pimphand said:

That is if Syracuse doesn't beat them this weekend. Syracuse +11 seems like a fucking lock to me given its in New York in damn near December.

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Syracuse plays in a dome. 

  On 11/27/2024 at 3:55 PM, BurntOrange&White said:

Agree...just don't know how committee will view Texas vs Ohio St

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  On 11/27/2024 at 4:01 PM, Js1 said:

Depends how far Ohio State would drop after losing to 6-5 Michigan.  Would be hard for them to leapfrog #2 Texas, who won 6 in a row and beat top 20 aggy and top 10 Georgia back to back.

Alabama dropped 6 spots after losing to OU, so they could drop down to 7-9 and then have to leapfrog a bunch of teams to get the 1 seed, likely including the SEC and ACC CCG winners who only have 1 loss 

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If Michigan somehow beats Ohio State, they don’t make the Big 10 title game. Indiana and PSU both have one conference loss and one of them goes. 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 5:18 PM, Codaxx said:

100%. If they lose to Purdue, I would not even consider them for the playoffs. Wish they would just put Vegas guys on the committee

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You have a better chance of bedding Melania Trump and Kamala Harris in a threesome tonight than Purdue does of beating Indiana. Purdue is the worst P4 team in the country. Mississippi State, Florida State and Okie State would each beat Purdue by 3 touchdowns. 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 5:18 PM, Codaxx said:

100%. If they lose to Purdue, I would not even consider them for the playoffs. They would never do it, but I wish they would just put Vegas guys on the committee

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Vegas has Indiana -1.5 over PSU in a hypothetical.  Indiana is a good team.

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  On 11/27/2024 at 5:26 PM, JBJ said:

Vegas has Indiana -1.5 over PSU in a hypothetical.  Indiana is a good team.

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I am not a fan of either to be honest, but no way they leave PSU out. Name is too big. Sagarin has PSU SOS about 30 slots higher. Committee would never bring in Vegas guys. Would be interesting to see Vegas's top 12 though

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  On 11/27/2024 at 5:22 PM, closetojumping said:

You have a better chance of bedding Melania Trump and Kamala Harris in a threesome tonight than Purdue does of beating Indiana. Purdue is the worst P4 team in the country. Mississippi State, Florida State and Okie State would each beat Purdue by 3 touchdowns. 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 2:21 PM, Skipper said:

The byes are the only thing keeping the conference championship games alive and no doubt you will get continued commentary around cancelling those regardless.  I'm coming around to the idea of an expanded 16 team playoff and pod system in SEC/BIG where last 2 weeks of regular season effectively become conference playoff.  4 pod winners advance (other 2 seeds play 2 seeds, etc) and mini 4 team SEC/BIG playoff for seeding where all 4 teams that win their pod are guaranteed a spot.  Then your 2 seeds still playing for potential at large spots.  Lots of details/logistics to work out with that model but it seems to have potential.   As the current conference championship game with unbalanced schedules and crazy tiebreakers (with coaches already publicly questioning whether it's worth it) may not last much longer.

I mean look at PSU.  They get another cakewalk this week then get to rest of for a guaranteed home playoff game.

 

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the conf champ game is a complete custerfuck now.  lots of teams have big rivalry games end of year, then a week later conf game against an almost assured top 10 team.  and it could be a rematch with even another rematch potentially in the playoffs.

the only other reason besides the bye to keep the conf champ game is that it makes teams feel better about scheduling a decent OOC.

 

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  On 11/27/2024 at 2:21 PM, Skipper said:

The byes are the only thing keeping the conference championship games alive and no doubt you will get continued commentary around cancelling those regardless.  I'm coming around to the idea of an expanded 16 team playoff and pod system in SEC/BIG where last 2 weeks of regular season effectively become conference playoff.  4 pod winners advance (other 2 seeds play 2 seeds, etc) and mini 4 team SEC/BIG playoff for seeding where all 4 teams that win their pod are guaranteed a spot.  Then your 2 seeds still playing for potential at large spots.  Lots of details/logistics to work out with that model but it seems to have potential.   As the current conference championship game with unbalanced schedules and crazy tiebreakers (with coaches already publicly questioning whether it's worth it) may not last much longer.

I mean look at PSU.  They get another cakewalk this week then get to rest of for a guaranteed home playoff game.

 

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This is what I predicted years ago, and IMO make way more sense.

I THOUGHT they'd go from 4-8. In the 4-8 transition the CCG winners get home field first round. Then second round championships use the big bowls.

Essentially I thought that model would then morph into 16 and your model.

I was wrong on the process but still believe ultimately it's where we end up.

  On 11/27/2024 at 5:22 PM, closetojumping said:

You have a better chance of bedding Melania Trump and Kamala Harris in a threesome tonight than Purdue does of beating Indiana. Purdue is the worst P4 team in the country. Mississippi State, Florida State and Okie State would each beat Purdue by 3 touchdowns. 

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So you're saying there's a chance. Man, I really hope they let me take video if it comes to pass.

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  On 11/27/2024 at 5:40 PM, dcar00 said:

the conf champ game is a complete custerfuck now.  lots of teams have big rivalry games end of year, then a week later conf game against an almost assured top 10 team.  and it could be a rematch with even another rematch potentially in the playoffs.

the only other reason besides the bye to keep the conf champ game is that it makes teams feel better about scheduling a decent OOC.

 

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I'd love, at some point, if non-FCS wins were removed from consideration completely for wins and SOS. However, to really drive the point home make losses count against their win loss record and SOS.

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