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31 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I'd love, at some point, if non-FCS wins were removed from consideration completely for wins and SOS. However, to really drive the point home make losses count against their win loss record and SOS.

I think you meant non-FBS wins.  FCS is teams like Alabama A&M.  They should include them for SOS and make the team something like 300 because you are basically playing a practice game.

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I'd rather stay behind Georgia until they come to Austin.  Same way I felt about being behind SC in 05.  I'd rather have something to prove than something to defend.

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You say a lot of stupid shit and you do it at a rapid, voluminous rate. You’re like a shit howitzer, just fucking blasting the board with constant bullshit. 

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I don't care about the auto bids, give SOME kind of reward for winning conferences...but NOT automatic Seeds.

The reason Miami is ranked so highly is only because they don't want to look absolutely silly placing the 9th/10th ranked team as the 3 seed when they're already placing the 12th team as the 4th seed and maybe the 14th or so Big 12 champ as the 12th seed.

give them the 10-12 and fill out the bracket by rankings...with the obvious change to make sure you don't have rematches in the first round, and 2nd if you can avoid it.

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1 minute ago, Drew said:

The reason Miami is ranked so highly is only because they don't want to look absolutely silly placing the 9th/10th ranked team as the 3 seed when they're already placing the 12th team as the 4th seed and maybe the 14th or so Big 12 champ as the 12th seed.

Which is fucking stupid because Miami won't be giving more than a FG against SMU.

Granted then they can be like "well SMU is legit, I mean they just best the 6th ranked team in the country!"

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2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Which is fucking stupid because Miami won't be giving more than a FG against SMU.

Granted then they can be like "well SMU is legit, I mean they just best the 6th ranked team in the country!"

Which is kind what's been happening in the SEC for all these years...confirmation bias.

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11 minutes ago, Drew said:

Which is kind what's been happening in the SEC for all these years...confirmation bias.

Yeah. I think SMU and My Amy deserve to be in the top 10 but I'd have one after the other and both behind Tenn and UGA. 

I don't even want to know what crackpot logic they are using to know that Miami is better than every team in the SEC but Texas but SMU clearly isn't. 

Miami may be getting bumped on some of these metrics because of how good Florida has been lately - but FLA wasn't even close to this good when they played.

Oh well. Most of this shit will sort itself out. I hope we beat their ass in the Coke vs. Coke bowl.

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Because Miami was good from 84-2003ish and smu was busy rebuilding their program from zero at that time while getting relegated when some realignment initially stratified two levels of FBS conferences. 
 

And guess who has votes in these things and when they started watching college football. 

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6 hours ago, immamac said:

So if Ohio State loses to Michigan Saturday and to Oregon again they still make the playoffs? That's lame as fuck tbh.

This 12 team playoff actually seems way shittier than just expanding it to 8. We will see how it plays out though it could be cool to have a 9-12 ranked team make a deep run, although I don't think there will ever be a case where one of the top 4 doesn't win. 

 

4 hours ago, kevwun said:

Texas and Georgia would both be getting top 6 seeds if they win out.  Instead one of them is going to get dinged because they lost the conference championship game.  The same thing will happen to Oregon and Ohio St.  That's not the in the best interest of the conferences.

Well, those of us who did not want to become NFL-lite were a distinct minority.  It is not breaking new as meaningless and/or conference-harming CCGs were happening in the BCS and the 4 team playoff.  It's only a matter of time before someone notices that teams half-ass the rivalry week for the playoff.

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Any team on the bubble didn't do what they had to do to get in the playoff. That includes those that will get in and who won't. We have insured that anybody that might have gotten screwed in a 4 team playoff aren't getting screwed. That is all I care about. The bar is so low right now to get in, just play well over the whole season and have 1 or 2 screw ups. I wouldn't mind the last couple spots come down to pulling names out of a hat.

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2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

You have a better chance of bedding Melania Trump and Kamala Harris in a threesome tonight than Purdue does of beating Indiana. Purdue is the worst P4 team in the country. Mississippi State, Florida State and Okie State would each beat Purdue by 3 touchdowns. 

For sure but the upset to watch is Miami at Syracuse.

I think Syracuse has a chance to win that. If so, Miami should be out. 

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2 hours ago, dcar00 said:

I think you meant non-FBS wins.  FCS is teams like Alabama A&M.  They should include them for SOS and make the team something like 300 because you are basically playing a practice game.

210-220 whatever it takes. And yes agree. 

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At the risk of incurring the boundless wrath of fellow surlers and suffering an onslaught of their verbal slings and arrows if this has already been answered, I have a question. 

Is there an established method for determining the time slot of the first round games or the site assignments for the later rounds? E.g. do the higher seeded teams get to choose? Or is it all decided by the TV powers? 

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3 hours ago, Horndog said:

At the risk of incurring the boundless wrath of fellow surlers and suffering an onslaught of their verbal slings and arrows if this has already been answered, I have a question. 

Is there an established method for determining the time slot of the first round games or the site assignments for the later rounds? E.g. do the higher seeded teams get to choose? Or is it all decided by the TV powers? 

First round time slots will be determined for maximum ratings. The two early games on Saturday the 21st (broadcast on TNT, and going up against NFL games) will surely be the least attractive matchups.

Quarter-final sites have conference tie-ins: B1G champ to Rose Bowl, SEC to Sugar, and presumably Big 12 to Fiesta and ACC to Peach but I suppose there is some wiggle room if Boise is top four or whatever.

Haven’t read officially how the sites for the semi-finals would be determined. I’m assuming it will be set based on proximity to the higher seeds and decided on selection day rather than waiting to see quarter-final winners.

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28 minutes ago, WBT said:

tldw; the 1

I watched and how the bracket breaks now, I’d most certainly take the 5 seed.  However, we know how it breaks now is meaningless and ratings driven and will look completely different in 2 weeks.

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3 hours ago, LonghornSean said:

 

Haven’t read officially how the sites for the semi-finals would be determined. I’m assuming it will be set based on proximity to the higher seeds and decided on selection day rather than waiting to see quarter-final winners.

Yeah all I’ve seen for the semis is vague, I’m sure intentionally:

”The highest seed will receive preferential placement for the Playoff Semifinal bowl assignment.”

So that would seem to mean Oregon (current #1) would get their choice to play in Arlington or Miami. But do they have to declare within a few days of the bracket being announced? Do they get to wait and see the other quarterfinal winners (they wouldn’t pick Orange if Miami is the 4 seed… or cotton if Texas is a 5 and wins the quarter)…

If they have to declare within a few days of the bracket is announced does it lock the bracket in even if they lose in the quarters? Does the “preferential placement” fall to the highest remaining seed after the quarters?

 

my guess would be they have to declare shortly after the bracket is announced and if they are out, the bracket still follows (akin to March madness and the top overall seed usually getting placed in the regional that provides them the best home court advantage if they advance to the later rounds).

I assume they’ll want it locked in so fans can have as much advance notice to make travel arrangements (about a month with bracket announced Dec 8 and semis on Jan 8/9). 

but I wouldn’t put it past the committee/TV saying “noting is official until after the quarters…in the event Oregon loses we get to decide who goes where…with only ~8 days notice”’(which would be a recipe for disaster for actually having a stadium full …especially of fans actually cheering for the teams on the field in the semis)

 

 

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5 hours ago, HeHateMe said:

I watched and how the bracket breaks now, I’d most certainly take the 5 seed.  However, we know how it breaks now is meaningless and ratings driven and will look completely different in 2 weeks.

 

6 hours ago, WBT said:

tldw; the 1

Video should start right as he’s talking about it.  Should take less than five minutes. 

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Gentlemen, all I have to say is, welcome to being at the table of elites. We will be regulars in the playoffs, and at some point Sark will finally pull through amd hoist up that trophy....next year with Arch. And the year after with Arch. And again with Arch in his 3 seasons. Then the hunger games begin between Owens/Lacey/Bell. May the best win, and bring forth another trophy. 

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2 hours ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Gentlemen, all I have to say is, welcome to being at the table of elites. We will be regulars in the playoffs, and at some point Sark will finally pull through amd hoist up that trophy....next year with Arch. And the year after with Arch. And again with Arch in his 3 seasons. Then the hunger games begin between Owens/Lacey/Bell. May the best win, and bring forth another trophy. 

Next YEAR is 2025, so let's go ahead and win the bitch this SEASON.

Next season, too.

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It's kinda weird that Georgia has only been to the playoffs 3 times, and I know they have 2 NC's, but people out here acting like they're regulars like Bama. 2017, 2021, 2022. That's it. And I guess this year. So Sark is only behind by 2, but he can win a NC, and defense can carry us to, and win a NC. We're elite-elite in that category. And we have just enough offense to help us. 

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6 hours ago, bluto said:

Well yea. The conf champ would get in, that’s a central point of selection.  

There's only 5 auto bids. Did you miss the entire discussion about if the AAC and MWC were both ranked ahead of the B12 champion?

It's not happening now since Tulane lost but that was why I made that comment. 

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7 hours ago, bluto said:

Well yea. The conf champ would get in, that’s a central point of selection.  

No.  No conferences get an auto bid.  The CFP committee ranks the teams, and the top 5 conference champions get auto bids.  There is nothing in the rules carving out a place for (say) the SEC champion.  They must be among the 5 highest ranked D1 conference champions.

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I'm obviously biased - do y'all think SMU should get in regardless of Miami result at 11-1?

Loss - BYU

P4 OOC win against TCU by 3 scores

Would be 8-0 in ACC play.

Not sure our resume is any worse than Indiana's.

Feel like the way GT played last night should help the ACC 2 bid argument as well.

I guess we'll see what Miami does today.

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20 minutes ago, WBT said:

TeXAs HaSN't bEaT AnyOnE!

Teams we've beat now have wins over Tennessee, Ole Miss (x2), Bama (x2), and Ohio State.

Yep, as the tweet said, Texas hasn't beaten anyone except all these teams that keep beating other CFP contenders. 

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