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What are we playing for against GA?  Win and earn a bye?  Lose and no bye?  If we lose do we lose a shot at a home playoff game?  I assume we are in regardless of next outcome.  

Also what is the easiest path?  bye, win in semis and win finals?

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Just now, JGrayDBU said:

What are we playing for against GA?  Win and earn a bye?  Lose and no bye?  If we lose do we lose a shot at a home playoff game?  I assume we are in regardless of next outcome.  

Also what is the easiest path?  bye, win in semis and win finals?

We are in

We will get a home playoff game as either the 5, 6 or 7, at worst 

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it is gonna be funny watching them rig the 5 seed and the matchup in the semis knowing the FUCKING 5 Seed has a walk.  the 1 and 2 seed is supposed to have the walk. 

This is the dumbest playoff scenario I have ever seen. rank them 1-12 and 1-4 have byes.

 

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34 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

2 losses to UGA, one of them in an extra game they dont have to play, vs a loss to Norther Illinois at home? With a much tougher schedule. No chance they put ND ahead of us. 

I hope we win so it doesn't matter but just watch.

that NIU loss didn't happen, if you haven't been paying attention. it has been memory holed by the committee.

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2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I hope we win so it doesn't matter but just watch.

that NIU loss didn't happen, if you haven't been paying attention. it has been memory holed by the committee.

I cant see Texas being behind them. Maybe theyll do it but it would be fucking insane if they did. Their loss is horrifically bad. I guess 5 or 6 seed would be our likely landing place. Hopefully we beat UGA, get the rest, and get the 2 seed. 

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2 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

If you're Dan Lanning, looks like your options are

A. Iowa State/Arizona State then Boise 

B. Bye then winner of Tennessee/Ohio State

How hard do you gameplan for the Big 10 CCG?

It is so fucking stupid that the system is putting teams in positions to have losing be incentivized. 

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5 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

It is so fucking stupid that the system is putting teams in positions to have losing be incentivized. 

They could maybe put ND at 5 and drop Oregon to 6 to punish them and send a message. At least with 1 loss ND has some plausible that everyone knows is BS but they could do it anyway.

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Just now, cmontexas said:

They could maybe put ND at 5 and drop Oregon to 6 to punish them and send a message. At least with 1 loss ND has some plausible that everyone knows is BS but they could do it anyway.

0 chance ND is ahead of Oregon if they lose. 0.0%

3 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I think we're pretty clearly the best fucking team in America. 

Let's see how next week goes. 

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3 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

They could maybe put ND at 5 and drop Oregon to 6 to punish them and send a message. At least with 1 loss ND has some plausible that everyone knows is BS but they could do it anyway.

if Oregon loses they are auto 5 seed.  Lanning is a guy who probably would throw the game knowing his odds are better going through one team he has already played and the Big 12 champ.

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2 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

0 chance ND is ahead of Oregon if they lose. 0.0%

Well 0% chance imo that Oregon goes out and obviously tanks next week. 99% of football coaches will take the bye and needing 1 win over needing 2 wins. Lanning is a loophole guy though, we saw him with the 12 men earlier this year

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7 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I think we're pretty clearly the best fucking team in America. 

We could be. We need better playcalling, better QB play, and better WR play from people not named Golden.

But then again every team has some pretty big issues. 

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Just now, cmontexas said:

Well 0% chance imo that Oregon goes out and obviously tanks next week. 99% of football coaches will take the bye and needing 1 win over needing 2 wins. Lanning is a loophole guy though, we saw him with the 12 men earlier this year

That was bullshit in the press conference. He did not do that on purpose.

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7 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

We could be. We need better playcalling, better QB play, and better WR play from people not named Golden.

But then again every team has some pretty big issues. 

I don't trust anyone against this D.

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It’s beyond regarded to think you’d rather be the 5 than the 1 or 2 at this point. 

Look around at the parity in college football this year and imagine being so stupid that you’d rather play 2 elimination games instead of 1. 

With so many teams losing, no one has any fucking clue how they’ll value a championship game winner like asu or Boise vs the group of Tenn, Miami, IU, SMU (if Clemson wins the acc), Bama.

It’s perfectly reasonable to think Bama gets in as the 12 seed if asu gets a bump from 16 to 13 this week and then from 13 to somewhere above 12 after getting the championship game win. 

So not knowing how the committee may or may not punish championship losers, it is the height of stupidity to think it would be better to roll the dice on getting into the 5, 6, or 7 seed playing who the fuck knows, instead of preferring to earn the 1 or 2 seed in a bye. 

but hey. At least you’d be in the same page as Kiffin, so that’s something. 

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Final Regular Season In-State Rankings


1. Texas (11-1)
 - The Longhorns go wire-to-wire at #1.

2. SMU (11-1) - The Mustangs rumbled through their inaugural season in the ACC undefeated. They will earn a CFP birth with a win over Clemson in the ACC Championship game. If they fall to the Tigers, can the Ponies still sneak in?

3. Baylor (8-4) - The Bears roll into a possible Rate Bowl bid on a 6-game win streak, the longest of the Dave Aranda era.

4. TCU (8-4) - The Horned Frogs benefitted from a tissue-soft schedule with their 6 conference wins (and 1 loss) coming against the 7 teams in the cellar of the Big XII standings.

5. Texas Tech (8-4) - Seventh place in the Big XII runs through Lubbock.

6. Sam Houston (9-3) - Last season, their first in the FBS, the Bearkats finished just 3-9. This year, they improved by a remarkable 6 games. With their defeat of Liberty, they finish tied for 2nd in CUSA and will just miss the Conference USA championship game on a tie-break.

7. Abilene Christian (9-4) - After dropping an early OT heartbreaker to Texas Tech, ACU rolled through the UAC with a 7-1 conference record. They open the FCS playoffs with a shutout of Northern Arizona.

8. Texas A&M (8-4) - The aggies close the regular season on a three-game losing streak to teams not named New Mexico State and finish in the same position they held in our initial rankings.

9. Texas State (7-5) - If the Bobcats had been able to close out games against Sam Houston or Arizona State, this could have been a special season. They improve over last year's conference record to 5-3 in the Sun Belt. 

10. UTSA (6-6) - Under head coach Jeff Traylor, the Roadrunners have gone 12-2, 11-3, 9-5, and now 6-6 over the past 4 seasons.

11. North Texas (6-6) - With their win over Temple, the Mean Green are bowl-eligible for the third time in five years.

12. Houston (4-8) - After defeating Kansas State on November 3, the Cougars end the season on a three-game skid.

13. Rice (4-8) - The Owls’ winning percentage over the past 11 seasons: 33%. Their winning percentage this season: 33%. 

14. UTEP (3-9) - The Miners showed little life all year with three wins coming against fellow bottom-20 FBS teams FIU, Kennesaw, and New Mexico State.

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Some playoff thoughts after yesterday. 

We want Oregon to win vs Penn st as it guarantees us a 5 seed at worst. ND is not going to jump us for the 5 seed or else the big 10 and sec will explode. 

Teams playing in conference championships don't really get a bye. They have to play an extra game in order for the chance at a bye. I think you will start to see very liberal rotations and resting starters in the big 10 and sec championships during years where both teams playing are getting in regardless of outcome. Injuries later in the year are more common and it gives teams a chance to build depth for the playoff push. 

I think you will see a preference in years to come to be in a position like tenn and Ohio st are in this year.

The way they have the 12 team playoff set up is stupid but it may be the most fair way to do this without invalidating the lesser conferences. ¹

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1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

Maybe this post and others like it are correct, but I can’t be the only guy that reads them and thinks “fuck this shit, Texas needs to beat Georgia and win the conference title”, can I?

I want the trophy 

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3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Maybe this post and others like it are correct, but I can’t be the only guy that reads them and thinks “fuck this shit, Texas needs to beat Georgia and win the conference title”, can I?

It is very important that we win the game against UGA now. And the team is going to be motivated to get revenge. 

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32 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Maybe this post and others like it are correct, but I can’t be the only guy that reads them and thinks “fuck this shit, Texas needs to beat Georgia and win the conference title”, can I?

Entertainment is the Committee's true goal. The most entertaining outcome for the playoffs will sell the most advertising. From an admittedly Texas-centric perspective, it looks like the greatest entertainment  value is for Texas to knock off Georgia in the SECSECSEC CCG to "even" the season, and then for the two to meet in the Grand Finale for the rubber match, preceded and accompanied by relentless advertising selling all sorts of electric vehicles, alcoholic beverages, insurance, and oddly-named drugs with side effects including hair loss, blindness, erectile dysfunction, cardiac issues, and sudden death. 

Texas wins the CCG.

 

 

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Maybe this post and others like it are correct, but I can’t be the only guy that reads them and thinks “fuck this shit, Texas needs to beat Georgia and win the conference title”, can I?

The amount of value derived from Texas winning the SEC the first year is through the roof. I want this game, bad.

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Definitely want to win the SEC this week, not the least of reasons because I’m going to the game and don’t want a bunch of UGA fans barking in my face. Also want to repeat our trick from 1995-1996 of winning a conference on our way out and our way in. 
 

More long term, however, if we’re going to an NFL-style playoff system in CFB, then we should probably get away from these conference championship games altogether and just determine the regular season conference champion by records+tiebreakers like we used to do it prior to 1992. Nobody is upset that we don’t have an NFC East Championship Game in January every year. 

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2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Maybe this post and others like it are correct, but I can’t be the only guy that reads them and thinks “fuck this shit, Texas needs to beat Georgia and win the conference title”, can I?

no you aren't.  You have to play to win because you can't be assured of the 5. Notre Dame is there.  Oregon could lose also.  so yes we need to fuckstomp UGA so we can rest players at the end of the game and get a bye.  Other than the QB you can't really  "protect" players. 

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Coaches Poll

  1.     Oregon (53)
  2.     Texas
  3.     Penn State
  4.     Notre Dame
  5.     Georgia
  6.     Tennessee
  7.     SMU
  8.     Ohio State
  9.     Indiana
  10.     Boise State
  11.     Alabama
  12.     South Carolina
  13.     Arizona State
  14.     Miami FL
  15.     Ole Miss
  16.     Iowa State
  17.     Clemson
  18.     BYU
  19.     UNLV
  20.     Missouri
  21.     Illinois
  22.     Colorado
  23.     Army
  24.     Memphis
  25.     Syracuse
  • Schools Dropped Out: Tulane; Texas A&M;
  • Others Receiving Votes: Texas A&M; Duke; Tulane; Louisville; Kansas State; Louisiana; Michigan; Georgia Tech; Miami (OH); Iowa;

 

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14 hours ago, JGrayDBU said:

What are we playing for against GA?  Win and earn a bye?  Lose and no bye?  If we lose do we lose a shot at a home playoff game?  I assume we are in regardless of next outcome.  

Also what is the easiest path?  bye, win in semis and win finals?

Bye week

 knock them out of the playoff

 pride in being the sec champ

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14 hours ago, JGrayDBU said:

Also what is the easiest path?  bye, win in semis and win finals?

If we win the SECCG it would go by/quarters/semis/final.

With there being to clear ‘you have to miss this team’ opponent for us this season, seems to me playing 4 more games is better than playing 5…

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the whole thing is kind of fucked up.  you would be all in for a conf championship if you were going to get a bye and a home game but for all your work you get a bye and a then neutral site game against a tougher opponent than the 5 seed is going to get.

If the 5 seed had to play the "4" on the road it would be less of an advantage.

they need to get rid of the bowls and have neutral site for semi and final only.

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