2024 CFB polls/rankings - Texas #3/ #4 /#4 (CFP/AP/Coaches)

[The Dog 44771]

43 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

There is a zero percent chance of Bama getting snubbed for an 11-2 SMU. Zero. You guys batting this notion around haven’t been paying attention.  Time and again, the committees have gone out of their ways to fuck over any and all contenders for a SEC helmet team, particularly Bama. 

SMU brings nothing to the table over big brands with large audiences. They also do not deserve any form of benefit or the doubt. Beat Clemson or go get fucked. 

FWIW Finebaum thinks the SEC only gets 3 teams - Texas, UGA, and Tennessee.

[Surly Bevo 25655]

There is a zero percent chance of Bama getting snubbed for an 11-2 SMU. Zero. You guys batting this notion around haven’t been paying attention.  Time and again, the committees have gone out of their ways to fuck over any and all contenders for a SEC helmet team, particularly Bama. 
SMU brings nothing to the table over big brands with large audiences. They also do not deserve any form of benefit or the doubt. Beat Clemson or go get fucked. 

Pretty much this. The committee can simply point to last year and say “yea you hated on us putting them in 4th last year and then they were down on the goalline one play away from knocking out the eventual champion in an enormously entertaining and highly watched semifinal”

Should that be the thought process is debatable but to CTJs point the committee have a history that’s backed up by results.

[Lou_Sassle 2990]

Hasn't the committee already come out and said that teams wouldn't be punished for what happens on championship weekend? If so, I would take that to mean that SMU is in, win or lose, over bammer.

[Huckleberry 34407]

Just now, Lou_Sassle said:

Hasn't the committee already come out and said that teams wouldn't be punished for what happens on championship weekend? If so, I would take that to mean that SMU is in, win or lose, over bammer.

I think that was mostly Sankey and subservient talking heads saying that, IIRC.

[WBT 20884]

20 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

I'm very curious to see how the committee treats CCG losses when seeding. Like would Texas or PSU drop below ND who doesn't have to play one? Seems dumb if so, but I bet they would.

If so, making the CCG and losing is 100% worse than not making it at all. Not only for seeding but also because you get one fewer week off to rest up and heal. 

Should probably win it then

[closetojumping 65246]

12 minutes ago, The Dog said:

FWIW Finebaum thinks the SEC only gets 3 teams - Texas, UGA, and Tennessee.

I feel like he’s always poor-mouthing though. 

I will say, I would be highly entertained by seeing the SEC get snubbed a 4th team. The hue and cry from these idiot-laced fanbases would be glorious. 

[Codaxx 6214]

18 minutes ago, Lou_Sassle said:

Hasn't the committee already come out and said that teams wouldn't be punished for what happens on championship weekend? If so, I would take that to mean that SMU is in, win or lose, over bammer.

I tend to think of these rankings as pure entertainment, until the final rankings. The committee has been known to throw curve balls in the last rankings. I can’t imagine the ACC getting 2 teams in, especially a 2 loss private school. Though I would laugh my ass off if SMU got in before A&M

Edited December 2 by Codaxx

[Js1 86939]

Just now, Codaxx said:

I tend to think of these rankings as pure entertainment, until the final rankings. The committee has been known to throw curve balls in the last rankings. I can’t imagine the ACC getting 2 teams in 

I think the CCG loser can play their way out if they get blown out badly. But I think most will be fine in the end. The CCG should be your opportunity to earn a bye, not miss out (assuming you’re not a 9-4 or 8-5 type team after the CCG loss)

[Huckleberry 34407]

Agreed that only the final rankings mean anything but the committee will almost certainly want to set things up now. If Alabama is going to go instead of Miami, for example, they have to be ahead of them this week. One team that doesn't play jumping another team that doesn't play will be a huge controversy. Sure they could try to say "well now Alabama's win is over the SEC champions" but it would be a lot easier just to avoid that controversy altogether and decide now who will be ahead out of those two teams.

[Left Coast 879]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

 

Fuck it.

UT wins the SEC

Oregon wins the B1G

Arizona St wins the Big XII

SMU wins the ACC

 

Welcome to realignment bitches!

[Dnaguy 12572]

10 minutes ago, Left Coast said:

Fuck it.

UT wins the SEC

Oregon wins the B1G

Arizona St wins the Big XII

SMU wins the ACC

 

Welcome to realignment bitches!

Is UNLV in if they knock off Boise?

[The_Great_Hornsby 3586]

1 minute ago, Dnaguy said:

Is UNLV in if they knock off Boise?

Yes, as the 12 seed

[The Dog 44771]

58 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I feel like he’s always poor-mouthing though. 

I will say, I would be highly entertained by seeing the SEC get snubbed a 4th team. The hue and cry from these idiot-laced fanbases would be glorious. 

For context - this was on Barrie’s show discussing the three current three-loss SEC teams (Bama, USCe, and Ole Miss.)

All three have their warts, so Pawl thinks the committee just excludes all three just to avoid any debate should it come down to those and one other non-SEC team such as SMU (were they to lose to Clemson.)

[Fud 9697]

Something to watch for Tuesday is whether or not Duke is ranked. If they are, then it's something that they could potentially point to with SMU 

[Js1 86939]

2 minutes ago, Fud said:

Something to watch for Tuesday is whether or not Duke is ranked. If they are, then it's something that they could potentially point to with SMU 

Duke ranked and aggy not would be glorious 

[dcar00 14902]

whoever the 5 seed is I think I'd like for them to destroy both the 12 and the "4" so we can potentially get to just ranking 1-12.

[chainsaw 10244]

SMU should have lost to Duke. They're not as good as their record would suggest. If they lose to Clemson I don't want them in the playoff.

[The_Great_Hornsby 3586]

3 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

whoever the 5 seed is I think I'd like for them to destroy both the 12 and the "4" so we can potentially get to just ranking 1-12.

If the 5 is Notre Dame, which it very well may be. They will probably lose to the 12 outright. 

[chainsaw 10244]

3 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

If the 5 is Notre Dame, which it very well may be. They will probably lose to the 12 outright. 

But what if the fans are really polite, "loud," and do a bunch of weird swaying and cheers they practiced the night before?

[dcar00 14902]

17 minutes ago, The Dog said:

For context - this was on Barrie’s show discussing the three current three-loss SEC teams (Bama, USCe, and Ole Miss.)

All three have their warts, so Pawl thinks the committee just excludes all three just to avoid any debate should it come down to those and one other non-SEC team such as SMU (were they to lose to Clemson.)

It is possible.  would be great if Clemson wins and it is all 0,1,2 loss teams with Clemson, UNLV.  and Miami at 10-2, 3 loss SEC teams out.  the howling will be at 11. 

[dcar00 14902]

14 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

SMU should have lost to Duke. They're not as good as their record would suggest. If they lose to Clemson I don't want them in the playoff.

I want SMU to keep Miami out.

[chainsaw 10244]

Just now, dcar00 said:

I want SMU to keep Miami out.

I think Miami kept Miami out no matter who wins

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 3542]

Y’all are crazy if you think Bama is getting left out of the 1st 12 team playoff. They’re in as the 11 seed.

[WBT 20884]

Bama should obviously be out but that was true last year too so y'all are probably right that they're in

[mdmost 43850]

Has this been discussed yet? I almost feel they should definitely snub Ole Miss now. I agree with Finnebaum, only Texas, Georgia, and Tennessee should get in. Hence why I also feel 12 is too many teams. Bama losing to OU and only getting a FG should be disqualifying enough. 

 

[Pato del Muerto 53331]

2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

I feel like he’s always poor-mouthing though. 

I will say, I would be highly entertained by seeing the SEC get snubbed a 4th team. The hue and cry from these idiot-laced fanbases would be glorious. 

Would probably push them into adding two more programs to further stretch the schedule to big10 levels, so there can be a bunch of 1 loss sec teams every year. 

[Zeus 6753]

Texas

Georgia

Tennessee

South Carolina

——

Oregon

Ohio State

Indiana

maybe pedo state if they keep it close with Oregon

——

Notre Dame
SMU

Boise St

Arizona State I guess

 

 

but they will probably fuck over a deserving South Carolina team in favor of Alabama 

[Zeus 6753]

8 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Has this been discussed yet? I almost feel they should definitely snub Ole Miss now. I agree with Finnebaum, only Texas, Georgia, and Tennessee should get in. Hence why I also feel 12 is too many teams. Bama losing to OU and only getting a FG should be disqualifying enough. 

 

No mention of Florida or Vandy

convenient

 neither of these teams deserve it

 lane Kiffin was openly ducking the sec championship game like a complete bitch

[6th Street 6655]

2 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Texas

Georgia

Tennessee

South Carolina

——

Oregon

Ohio State

Indiana

maybe pedo state if they keep it close with Oregon

——

Notre Dame
SMU

Boise St

Arizona State I guess

 

 

but they will probably fuck over a deserving South Carolina team in favor of Alabama 

Alabama won head to head vs SC and has a win over UGA. 

[nnm 37737]

3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

There is a zero percent chance of Bama getting snubbed for an 11-2 SMU. Zero. You guys batting this notion around haven’t been paying attention.  Time and again, the committees have gone out of their ways to fuck over any and all contenders for a SEC helmet team, particularly Bama. 

[WBT 20884]

2 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Alabama won head to head vs SC and has a win over UGA. 

So does Ole Miss on both accounts.  S Car has somehow become a media and message board darling and I don't get it.

[Mr. Drummond 2241]

as much as I think scar is playing better than Bama, and how much I want Bama not to make the playoffs,  head to head has to matter.   Actual games have to matter.  

[Valmy77 13567]

Tennessee, Georgia, and Texas should be the only SEC schools in the playoff.

But that assumes there are nine other teams worth a shit. So maybe a three loss regular season SEC school makes it in, but that seems stupid to me. 

[dcar00 14902]

5 minutes ago, WBT said:

So does Ole Miss on both accounts.  S Car has somehow become a media and message board darling and I don't get it.

they beat the mighty undefeated in the SEC(at the time) fightum texum aggys by 24 points in a massacre.

[StassneyHorn 6755]

Looking at tickets online and the Georgia side tickets are noticeably less than Texas side.

[The Dog 44771]

Bama’s loss to OU and Ole Miss’ loss to Kentucky (at home) are major problems even with scoreboard on USCe.

[WBT 20884]

Along with Miami, the Big 12 CG loser and BYU should be getting consideration to go ahead of the 3 loss SEC teams also.  I don't get the lack of respect of the committee for the Big 12 vis a vis the ACC and Boise.  The power rankings have the Big 12 as the 2nd best conference.

[Horn Dogg 4277]

No aggy on the list?  LOL

[statsman 5675]

Do we know which side of the bracket the Cotton Bowl is the semifinal for (which seeds feed it) and which side the Orange Bowl is the semifinal for?

[markstanco 12773]

Y’all are crazy if you think Bama is getting left out of the 1st 12 team playoff. They’re in as the 11 seed.

I think bama will be the first team out, and Carolina will be right behind them or maybe 15. Which is too bad, nobody wants any part of South Carolina and their QB.

[dcar00 14902]

1 hour ago, StassneyHorn said:

Looking at tickets online and the Georgia side tickets are noticeably less than Texas side.

it will be interesting since both teams are in the playoff regardless people may budget for playoff rounds vs. champ game.  

you would think Georgia would be more though since a lot of them are within driving distance.  That said probably a good number of  horns within driving distance and SEC championship is "new" for us.

[dcar00 14902]

1 hour ago, WBT said:

Along with Miami, the Big 12 CG loser and BYU should be getting consideration to go ahead of the 3 loss SEC teams also.  I don't get the lack of respect of the committee for the Big 12 vis a vis the ACC and Boise.  The power rankings have the Big 12 as the 2nd best conference.

the cachet of the Big 12 is zero.  there are 3 total national championships from the 16 teams in the conference.  There is also the west coast game times component to this.

that said, the Big 10 is the biggest fraud this year in my opinion but we will find out since because of scheduling they will get 4 in.

will be interesting if conferences start to try to "game" the scheduling

[dcar00 14902]

46 minutes ago, statsman said:

Do we know which side of the bracket the Cotton Bowl is the semifinal for (which seeds feed it) and which side the Orange Bowl is the semifinal for?

no seeds yet, that I have seen, only day/time and which bowl goes on that day/time. 

[Hermanator 7570]

So we want an Oregon win, right? 

That way a win Saturday gets us the 2 seed and a loss still should get us the covered 5 seed. I would imagine, but with a committee who knows

[El Squared 1838]

23 hours ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

It is so fucking stupid that the system is putting teams in positions to have losing be incentivized. 

Yes, the CCG games need to go away, If conference leaders have identical records, make them co-champions or whatever, and the highest ranked team to get the autobid. It’s not a great game now given the expanded playoff, just lets players get injured w/o adavancing interest, except to networks and advertisers.

[The_Great_Hornsby 3586]

5 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

So we want an Oregon win, right? 

That way a win Saturday gets us the 2 seed and a loss still should get us the covered 5 seed. I would imagine, but with a committee who knows

0% chance Oregon loses to Pedo St. They are the definition of Charlie Brown kicking a football. 

[Crockett 517]

8 hours ago, ztejas said:

The format needs tweaking because if SMU wins we are the 3 seed - if we lose we potentially fall past 12. That doesn't make a ton of sense.

If Clemson wins and BSU wins then BSU is the 3, the B12 winner likely gets the 4 seed and Clemson is maybe on the road to start their playoff?

I guess it's just one season - maybe it will be a bit more clear cut going forward. The SEC and B12 eating themselves alive has made a lot of it weird. 

And if SMU loses, then BYU would also only have two losses, but beat SMU H2H, so BYU would have an argument over SMU at that point. 

[Js1 86939]

42 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

it will be interesting since both teams are in the playoff regardless people may budget for playoff rounds vs. champ game.  

you would think Georgia would be more though since a lot of them are within driving distance.  That said probably a good number of  horns within driving distance and SEC championship is "new" for us.

I’m guessing, as you said, the SEC CCG is new for us and Georgia has sort of been there, done that 

[dcar00 14902]

8 hours ago, ztejas said:

The format needs tweaking because if SMU wins we are the 3 seed - if we lose we potentially fall past 12. That doesn't make a ton of sense.

If Clemson wins and BSU wins then BSU is the 3, the B12 winner likely gets the 4 seed and Clemson is maybe on the road to start their playoff?

I guess it's just one season - maybe it will be a bit more clear cut going forward. The SEC and B12 eating themselves alive has made a lot of it weird. 

I realize you would be the 3 seed in this format but what is your seed before you play the ACC champ game if you just rank 1-12.  This isn't a knock on SMU, it could be any conf champ.

Seeds 1-4 are artificially generated via conf champ bye.  the only way to fix it is rank 1-12.

[statsman 5675]

6 hours ago, Crockett said:

And if SMU loses, then BYU would also only have two losses, but beat SMU H2H, so BYU would have an argument over SMU at that point. 

Why would BYU get in ahead of Alabama?