2024 CFB polls/rankings - Texas #3/ #4 /#4 (CFP/AP/Coaches)

[ztejas 44,093]

3 minutes ago, markstanco said:

Who cares about this week. Alignment happens next week.

1 Oregon
2 Texas
3 SMU
4 Arizona state
5 notre dame

Then the ratings fun begin. Bama at 12 will magically move up and Boise state will fall to 12. Can’t have bama and ND play in the first round, that will eliminate a lot of fans.

Also, if Texas does lose, they will bump ND for the 5th spot because conference game.

3 loss B12 patsy doesn't deserve to jump BSU imo. They've played good ball all season. 

[t_eight 156]

Even if you are hosting a first round game coming off a conf championship game, you still get a bye, if you will.

First round starts Dec 20/21st

If you get a 1st round bye, you don't play until Dec 31st/Jan 1.

 

[Drew 2,825]

1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

I know it probably won’t happen but current bracket shows that we could play Georgia 3 times this season. 
 

They will definitely adjust this to prevent rematches early. 

1 hour ago, DaysOff said:

An immediate 3rd Texas Georgia game is regarded. I hope the committee just reseeds this shit Sunday. They can make up any excuse to justify it.

Yeah that’s gonna change. They won’t want rematches or same conferences playing till the semis at least. 

1 hour ago, taybo20 said:

Texas/Uga 3 would be something 

Not unless it’s in the title game. 

7 minutes ago, markstanco said:

Who cares about this week. Alignment happens next week.

1 Oregon
2 Texas
3 SMU
4 Arizona state
5 notre dame

Then the ratings fun begin. Bama at 12 will magically move up and Boise state will fall to 12. Can’t have bama and ND play in the first round, that will eliminate a lot of fans.

Also, if Texas does lose, they will bump ND for the 5th spot because conference game.

Agreed. Feel only Oregon or Texas losing gets 5 over ND. Anyone else losing will be 6 or lower. 

[The Ace of Aces 5,353]

James Franklin is 1-9 vs top 5 teams and 3-17 vs top 10 teams. They aren’t beating Oregon. 

[Drew 2,825]

12 minutes ago, t_eight said:

Even if you are hosting a first round game coming off a conf championship game, you still get a bye, if you will.

First round starts Dec 20/21st

If you get a 1st round bye, you don't play until Dec 31st/Jan 1.

 

That’s a long fucking time off. Even if the health improves you chance being rusty as shit against a good team that just won a playoff game. 

Edited December 4 by Drew

[JBJ 3,759]

30 minutes ago, immamac said:

Its funny how much some of you care. Texas is a lock, who gives a fuck about the rest of these shitty teams. Texas will beat everyone. 

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality.

[Huckleberry 34,167]

Boise State will get hammered by 20+ by the #5 team. Unless it's Notre Dame. Then only 14.

[statsman 5,615]

26 minutes ago, BurgleBro said:

Do we know what round 2 game/bowl we will be in if we win this Saturday??  Is it certain? 

I'd like to ensure I have the next morning off from work..

Last playoff going to work was a very tough time.  Struggle bus city.

With a win, Texas’ first game would be the quarterfinal. CFP says they will try to match the conference champs with their traditional bowl- so Texas would go to the Sugar Bowl as SEC champ. 
 
After the quarterfinals, the top remaining seed picks its preferred site for a semifinal game

from the two choices: Cotton and Orange. I assume that if Texas gets the choice, it will be the Cotton Bowl game (Arlington). If Texas’ opponent chooses, it will be the Orange Bowl. 

Edited December 4 by statsman

[DaysOff 8,104]

Except unlv is beating them.

[satyanash 15,222]

So in other words, Alabama is just 3-2 against teams below .500 while Miami is 6-0. Warde Manuel is a complete idiot.

 

[Paul Wesley 3,313]

Yes, Bama is getting way too much love.  

That said (and sorry if already discussed) it is arguably that very same love for Bama that propelled Texas all the way to #3 last year. 

[Topper13 3,583]

1 minute ago, DaysOff said:

Except unlv is beating them.

Would that eliminate the G5 bid?

[Hank Kingsley 21,486]

37 minutes ago, ZB'Tejas said:

Bama is 9-3 and to be fair they have earned that respect to be considered with the last 13 years of their play. If this were 2008 or 2009 Texas would be in the same conversation. And hopefully Texas keeps things rolling so we are getting that same nod over the next few years.

Disagree. Saban isn't there anymore, they got handled for 4 quarters by Vandy, and more importantly, lost late in the season to a shitty OU team by 3 scores. That last loss should have ended their chances. 

If 3 loss teams are getting in, they need to reward teams that get hot and make a run to end the season (like South Carolina). 

 

[The_Great_Hornsby 3,585]

2 minutes ago, Topper13 said:

Would that eliminate the G5 bid?

No

[ztejas 44,093]

2 minutes ago, Topper13 said:

Would that eliminate the G5 bid?

No. B12 would slide into the 4 spot. UNLV would be 12. 

[closetohumping 17,702]

2 loss Texas would not be above 1 loss Notre dame.  

[F250 29,121]

6 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Disagree. Saban isn't there anymore, they got handled for 4 quarters by Vandy, and more importantly, lost late in the season to a shitty OU team by 3 scores. That last loss should have ended their chances. 

If 3 loss teams are getting in, they need to reward teams that get hot and make a run to end the season (like South Carolina). 

 

A 3 loss Alabama that includes that thumping they took from a very shitty ou team should disqualify them from the top 20, probably shouldn't even be ranked.

[4th&Five 41,851]

The ou loss should have dropped Bama to 16 or 17. That’s when it was obvious they wanted them in regardless. 

[markstanco 12,745]

Do we know what round 2 game/bowl we will be in if we win this Saturday??  Is it certain? 
I'd like to ensure I have the next morning off from work..
Last playoff going to work was a very tough time.  Struggle bus city.

No, there are actually more games to play before the brackets are set.

[Skipper 6,403]

For everyone bitching about Bama, who in the fuck should be ranked ahead of them?  I'm sorry - they are MUCH more deserving than fucking Miami.  It was pretty straight forward from my perspective. 

The real test is what they do if Clemson beats SMU.

[markstanco 12,745]

What the fuck else are we going to do, talk about hockey?

Stars beat Utah last night and March had a ridiculous goal that is YT search worthy.

[Skipper 6,403]

13 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

2 loss Texas would not be above 1 loss Notre dame.  

Strong disagree absent a blowout loss.  I hope we don't have to find out but I'm pretty confident they aren't going to overly penalize teams that are actually playing an extra game.

[satyanash 15,222]

2 minutes ago, Skipper said:

For everyone bitching about Bama, who in the fuck should be ranked ahead of them?  I'm sorry - they are MUCH more deserving than fucking Miami.  It was pretty straight forward from my perspective.

Either Miami or Ole Miss, depending on whether you reward good wins or punish bad losses more. There is no contortion of logic that allows BOTH of them to be behind Alabama.

 

[Skipper 6,403]

1 minute ago, satyanash said:

Either Miami or Ole Miss, depending on whether you reward good wins or punish bad losses more. There is no contortion of logic that allows BOTH of them to be behind Alabama.

 

Huh?  Ole Miss has the "worst" loss of those 3.  

[markstanco 12,745]

Strong disagree absent a blowout loss.  I hope we don't have to find out but I'm pretty confident they aren't going to overly penalize teams that are actually playing an extra game.

This. Texas is either 1,2, or 5.

[Hank_Hill 19,485]

45 minutes ago, B00M said:

Umm… if you put a gun to my head I’m picking Georgia, Oregon, Ohio State and considering Notre Dame. We will have a chance against anyone, but our offense is a problem. 

Bang ur dead

[Skipper 6,403]

Just now, markstanco said:

This. Texas is either 1,2, or 5.

If both Texas and Oregon lose then I think 6, but yes, one of those 4.   To be clear, considering the potential for movement behind it's impossible to know whether 6 is really better than 7, for example, from a matchup standpoint but it will be one of those.  They are going to maneuver spots 5/12 in all sorts of ways to avoid rematches and, if possible, intra-conference round 1 games, just like we see in basketball.  I'll be shocked if the final bracket isn't extremely appealing from a TV matchup standpoint.  At the end of the day that is really their (unspoken) job. 

[dcar00 14,867]

2 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Strong disagree absent a blowout loss.  I hope we don't have to find out but I'm pretty confident they aren't going to overly penalize teams that are actually playing an extra game.

ND's SOS sucks and their loss is to a MAC team who is 7-5 at Home and their biggest win is aggy.   we would have 2 losses to the SEC champ.  by every available metric other than loss column we should be #5 but Notre Dame will get it because...reasons and get a walk to the semis

[JBJ 3,759]

7 minutes ago, Skipper said:

For everyone bitching about Bama, who in the fuck should be ranked ahead of them?  I'm sorry - they are MUCH more deserving than fucking Miami.  It was pretty straight forward from my perspective. 

The real test is what they do if Clemson beats SMU.

I said upthread that Bama would be my choice.  It's not clear cut by any means, but I don't think it's favoritism this year either.

[markstanco 12,745]

2 loss Texas would not be above 1 loss Notre dame.  

Wrong. Texas would be 5.

[satyanash 15,222]

2 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Huh?  Ole Miss has the "worst" loss of those 3.  

Ole Miss lost to Kentucky by 3 in September in a game that went down to the wire. Alabama just lost to blOU by 21 and failed to score a single TD.

Alabama's loss is far worse. 4-8 vs. 6-6 does not compensate for such a big difference in how the games looked.

[Skipper 6,403]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

ND's SOS sucks and their loss is to a MAC team who is 7-5 at Home and their biggest win is aggy.   we would have 2 losses to the SEC champ.  by every available metric other than loss column we should be #5 but Notre Dame will get it because...reasons and get a walk to the semis

Like I said, strong disagreement for numerous reasons (not to mention that Notre Dame doesn't really bring more eyeballs than Texas if that is what you are insinuating) but hope we don't find out.

[Rex Kramer 1,513]

54 minutes ago, immamac said:

I'm rooting for the 11 worst other teams to get in. 

Yeah I really don’t understand the massive injustice done here. People love to bitch. 

[Drew 2,825]

25 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

2 loss Texas would not be above 1 loss Notre dame.  

Big disagree barring a big loss by Texas. They’be been Basically top 5 all year and had to play an extra game. They’re not going to punish them that harsh. 

11 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Strong disagree absent a blowout loss.  I hope we don't have to find out but I'm pretty confident they aren't going to overly penalize teams that are actually playing an extra game.

Agreed.  Only way they don’t end up 5 is if Oregon also loses. 

8 minutes ago, markstanco said:

This. Texas is either 1,2, or 5.

Pretty much 

[F250 29,121]

2 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Yeah I really don’t understand the massive injustice done here. People love to bitch. 

D1 FBS college football is founded on drama and bitching about rankings.

[mdmost 43,716]

AD FIGHT!!!!!

 

[Skipper 6,403]

Just now, satyanash said:

Ole Miss lost to Kentucky by 3 in September in a game that went down to the wire. Alabama just lost to blOU by 21 and failed to score a single TD.

Alabama's loss is far worse. 4-8 vs. 6-6 does not compensate for such a big difference in how the games looked.

Home loss to 4-8 Kentucky is worse than a road loss to 6-6 OU in my book.  To be clear, I think Ole Miss has a better case than Miami.  As does South Carolina for that matter.  Miami is a clear #4 out of that group if I was voting.

[John Coctostan 637]

10 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

ND's SOS sucks and their loss is to a MAC team who is 7-5 at Home and their biggest win is aggy.   we would have 2 losses to the SEC champ.  by every available metric other than loss column we should be #5 but Notre Dame will get it because...reasons and get a walk to the semis

I'm not sure a team that lost at home to Northern Illinois has a walk against anyone. 

[ztejas 44,093]

23 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

The ou loss should have dropped Bama to 16 or 17. That’s when it was obvious they wanted them in regardless. 

But they beat Georgia! Who (checks notes) almost lost to Kentucky and Georgia Tech.

[WBT 20,832]

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

3 loss B12 patsy doesn't deserve to jump BSU imo. They've played good ball all season. 

Iowa State and Arizona State have 2 losses.

Let's look at a common opponent

Arizona State 48 Wyoming 7

Boise 17 Wyoming 13

Edited December 4 by WBT

[WBT 20,832]

46 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

Except unlv is beating them.

That too

[closetohumping 17,702]

14 minutes ago, mdmost said:

AD FIGHT!!!!!

 

Isu ad is a regard.  Boise played Oregon.   Indiana is in a better conference.  Sorry not sorry

[B00M 6,694]

27 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Bang ur dead

Elaborate? Georgia is the best offense we’ve played this year isn’t it? 

[ztejas 44,093]

6 minutes ago, WBT said:

Iowa State and Arizona State have 2 losses.

Let's look at a common opponent

Arizona State 48 Wyoming 7

Boise 17 Wyoming 13

My bad. 

That's a disingenuous comparison even if ASU played them a lot better. ASU got them at home in August - Boise went on the road to Laramie in November. 

BSU has played a slightly worse schedule than ASU and ISU and has 1 loss instead of 2. Another win over UNLV wouldn't be a bad data point. 

There is zero reason the B12 winner should jump BSU if they finish 12-1. 

I don't really care either way, just think it would make 0 sense last minute to make that change. I don't really rate BSU or Indiana but I don't rate the B12 either. Just give me the team with the best record in scenarios like that. 

[markstanco 12,745]

Elaborate? Georgia is the best offense we’ve played this year isn’t it? 

Arkansas actually has a good offense. No idea if better.

[F250 29,121]

5 minutes ago, B00M said:

Elaborate? Georgia is the best offense we’ve played this year isn’t it? 

Were they? One of the frustrating things from that game was that their offense was weak as shit. The Texas offense 3 and outs combined with extremely shitty punting was Georgia's key to success.

[Huckleberry 34,167]

Boise State has won their games but the Mountain West is worse than the Sun Belt. For discussion's sake here are my conference rankings this season. Reminder since I haven't run them in a couple of seasons, my conference ratings use my ratings and are just a ranking of expected winning percentage for each conference if FBS football played a complete round robin.

1. SEC, 1468-420, 0.778
2. Big Ten, 1391-697, 0.666
3. Big 12, 1227-661, 0.650
4. ACC, 1243-746, 0.625
5. Independent, 194-199, 0.494
6. Pac-12, 106-158, 0.400
7. Sun Belt, 637-1043, 0.379
8. MWC, 513-951, 0.350
9. American, 571-1109, 0.340
10. MAC, 396-1068, 0.270
11. C-USA, 274-966, 0.221

 

[Zeus 6,717]

 

these are the schools that matter

 the committee are just stooges that have to argue why these specific teams always seem to get the benefit of doubt and leap others

 

 my two favorite schools are in so I’m all for it lol fuck the other schools

 

 South Carolina deserved it over Alabama but it’s not worth bitching about

 

 tech coach bitching like a bitch saying big 12 team playing for the sec title blah blah blah shut the fuck up

[yoladu 4,177]

I get the whole who have you played argument and conference competition (or lack of) point, but I didn't fathom a 3 loss team even sniffing a 12 team playoff, unless they earned it by winning their conference championship.

fuck Alabama

 

 

 

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Edited December 4 by yoladu

[Zeus 6,717]

22 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Boise State has won their games but the Mountain West is worse than the Sun Belt. For discussion's sake here are my conference rankings this season. Reminder since I haven't run them in a couple of seasons, my conference ratings use my ratings and are just a ranking of expected winning percentage for each conference if FBS football played a complete round robin.

1. SEC, 1468-420, 0.778
2. Big Ten, 1391-697, 0.666
3. Big 12, 1227-661, 0.650
4. ACC, 1243-746, 0.625
5. Independent, 194-199, 0.494
6. Pac-12, 106-158, 0.400
7. Sun Belt, 637-1043, 0.379
8. MWC, 513-951, 0.350
9. American, 571-1109, 0.340
10. MAC, 396-1068, 0.270
11. C-USA, 274-966, 0.221

 

The numbers suggest a power 4 exists but I still don’t see it. 
 

Actually the big 10 has so many dog shit bottom feeders it actually brings them closer to shitty but competitive conferences like big 12 and ACC so that does actually make sense. 
 

What happens if you only run it with the top 4 conferences?