2024 CFB polls/rankings - Texas #3/ #4 /#4 (CFP/AP/Coaches)

[Fug 604]

Iowa St. can’t stop the run, so Boise would probably run all over them. I haven’t watched a single ASU game so I can’t comment on that matchup.

Edited December 5 by Fug
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[Ghost of LL 15648]

I gotta tell you--I'm real concerned that Alabama is going to get stuck going to Columbus or South Bend and is going to get absolutely boat raced.  Alabama is a good team, don't get me wrong.  But they are very suspect on the road (their three losses are at Vanderbilt, at Tennessee, and at Oklahoma, with road wins coming at Wisconsin and at LSU).  And I really hate to be all "SEC, SEC, SEC," but the fact is that Alabama being a controversial entrant to the CFP and then getting absolutely drubbed in the first round on the road would be a bad look for the conference and could harm Texas and other SEC teams in the Committee's eyes in the future.

[utee94 16037]

5 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I gotta tell you--I'm real concerned that Alabama is going to get stuck going to Columbus or South Bend and is going to get absolutely boat raced.  Alabama is a good team, don't get me wrong.  But they are very suspect on the road (their three losses are at Vanderbilt, at Tennessee, and at Oklahoma, with road wins coming at Wisconsin and at LSU).  And I really hate to be all "SEC, SEC, SEC," but the fact is that Alabama being a controversial entrant to the CFP and then getting absolutely drubbed in the first round on the road would be a bad look for the conference and could harm Texas and other SEC teams in the Committee's eyes in the future.

Agree that wouldn't be good.  It'd actually be better if they were omitted completely this year, rather than making it in as a lower seed and having to travel to play against a good team on the road.  I don't really think Notre Dame is much of a threat, but Ohio State certainly is.

Edited December 5 by utee94

[nnm 37476]

14 hours ago, Hermanator said:

Someone needs to tell Brett he's g5 now. 

The whining is funny. No team outside the Big 10 and SEC has the depth of legit talent to make a run like will be required to win this thing. It's going to be a war, and if you can't have the best tackle in college football go out in the first quarter then replace him with a red shirt freshman who proceeds to dominate as well? You don't have what it takes. Attrition will take all these other teams down. 

Just stop with the G5 stuff. That’s extremely Aggie. Never go full Aggie. 

The top B12 and ACC teams are heads and shoulders above the G5. Other than ND and Miami, no non-SECX3 or B1G team has a top 20 class, and none will be able to do that year after year going forward.  But they’re getting their share of talent. None of those programs will individually be consistently be top-10 teams, but there will be teams from those conferences in the top-10 every year, and they will be able to make runs. They’ll do so on the backs of developed seniors and decent transfers, similar to TCU 2022. They won’t be able to individually sustain that year after year, but they will be good. 
 

There’s a pretty steep drop off from B12 and ACC to G5. Being so ridiculously dismissive of the B12 and ACC is so very Aggie.  Be better. 

[Hank Kingsley 21488]

16 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I gotta tell you--I'm real concerned that Alabama is going to get stuck going to Columbus or South Bend and is going to get absolutely boat raced.  Alabama is a good team, don't get me wrong.  But they are very suspect on the road (their three losses are at Vanderbilt, at Tennessee, and at Oklahoma, with road wins coming at Wisconsin and at LSU).  And I really hate to be all "SEC, SEC, SEC," but the fact is that Alabama being a controversial entrant to the CFP and then getting absolutely drubbed in the first round on the road would be a bad look for the conference and could harm Texas and other SEC teams in the Committee's eyes in the future.

 

 

[Red Five 41445]

29 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I gotta tell you--I'm real concerned that Alabama is going to get stuck going to Columbus or South Bend and is going to get absolutely boat raced.  Alabama is a good team, don't get me wrong.  But they are very suspect on the road (their three losses are at Vanderbilt, at Tennessee, and at Oklahoma, with road wins coming at Wisconsin and at LSU).  And I really hate to be all "SEC, SEC, SEC," but the fact is that Alabama being a controversial entrant to the CFP and then getting absolutely drubbed in the first round on the road would be a bad look for the conference and could harm Texas and other SEC teams in the Committee's eyes in the future.

I can't imagine Alabama losing in the first round as an 11 seed would have any effect at all on Texas in the future. 

[satyanash 15222]

2 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

People in this thread love to use "who would be favored" against the Big 12 when talking about top SEC teams. Why are none of you discussing the fact that Iowa State and Arizona State would both be favored over Boise State? Yormark is correct that the MWC winner should not be seeded higher than the B12 winner even if his reasoning is inaccurate. Boise State is overranked.

Yeah, BYU is also massively underranked if you go by the same metrics the CFP committee is using to vault Alabama up to #11 (SoR and SoS).

[closetojumping 64755]

44 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I gotta tell you--I'm real concerned that Alabama is going to get stuck going to Columbus or South Bend and is going to get absolutely boat raced.  Alabama is a good team, don't get me wrong.  But they are very suspect on the road (their three losses are at Vanderbilt, at Tennessee, and at Oklahoma, with road wins coming at Wisconsin and at LSU).  And I really hate to be all "SEC, SEC, SEC," but the fact is that Alabama being a controversial entrant to the CFP and then getting absolutely drubbed in the first round on the road would be a bad look for the conference and could harm Texas and other SEC teams in the Committee's eyes in the future.

Get a fucking grip. 

[po elvis 2137]

All of the bubble teams can make as much of a case as the other teams using their own metrics that are biased towards their own teams. If SMU loses a close game, the committee can take the easy way out and go with SMU, since they have declared teams won't be punished by playing in a CCG. Any other choice comes with a ton of criticism. Choosing SMU would come with some, but it would be the easiest to justify, being a 1-loss (at the time) team in a power 4 conference who played in a CCG.

Edited December 5 by po elvis

[Mitch Cumsteen 18880]

41 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I gotta tell you--I'm real concerned that Alabama is going to get stuck going to Columbus or South Bend and is going to get absolutely boat raced.  Alabama is a good team, don't get me wrong.  But they are very suspect on the road (their three losses are at Vanderbilt, at Tennessee, and at Oklahoma, with road wins coming at Wisconsin and at LSU).  And I really hate to be all "SEC, SEC, SEC," but the fact is that Alabama being a controversial entrant to the CFP and then getting absolutely drubbed in the first round on the road would be a bad look for the conference and could harm Texas and other SEC teams in the Committee's eyes in the future.

I hear ya, but it don't make a shit. The committee has to cater to the SEC and Big 10. If they don't, the two conferences will take their ball and go home, and have their own playoff without the rest of college football. We're probably headed that way regardless, but they don't want to do anything to expedite that process.

[mannewers 563]

18 hours ago, ztejas said:

Total defense is a useless stat. Miami is nowhere near a top 25 defense. They are 60 in scoring defense. ESPN defensive efficiency has them 63 and the 11th best defense in the ACC. SP+ is a bit kinder to them at 39. 

I was thinking the same thing. When I read his comments, my first thought was "there is no way". Lol, talk about find the most useless metric to make your case. The only reason they are not worse is because their offense is able to keep them off the field at times...

[Pig Bellmont 8822]

48 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I gotta tell you--I'm real concerned that Alabama is going to get stuck going to Columbus or South Bend and is going to get absolutely boat raced.  Alabama is a good team, don't get me wrong.  But they are very suspect on the road (their three losses are at Vanderbilt, at Tennessee, and at Oklahoma, with road wins coming at Wisconsin and at LSU).  And I really hate to be all "SEC, SEC, SEC," but the fact is that Alabama being a controversial entrant to the CFP and then getting absolutely drubbed in the first round on the road would be a bad look for the conference and could harm Texas and other SEC teams in the Committee's eyes in the future.

 

Fuck em

[nnm 37476]

8 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I hear ya, but it don't make a shit. The committee has to cater to the SEC and Big 10. If they don't, the two conferences will take their ball and go home, and have their own playoff without the rest of college football. We're probably headed that way regardless, but they don't want to do anything to expedite that process.

This is exactly where it is headed. It’s just a matter of when. 

[satyanash 15222]

(Stewart Mandel) The critics are correct: The College Football Playoff committee is not rewarding strength of schedule

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Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark attended a College Football Playoff management committee meeting in Chicago in September, where conference commissioners were briefed on the metrics used by the Playoff selection committee. “Strength of schedule was reiterated more than once as a key metric,” he said Wednesday. “I haven’t seen that come into play as much as it should be.”

Yormark is miffed that the Mountain West’s Boise State, ranked No. 10, stands to earn a first-round bye instead of the Big 12’s champion — either No. 15 Arizona State or No. 16 Iowa State. (In the expanded 12-team field, the five highest-ranked conference champions are automatically in, and the four highest-ranked of that group earn the bye.) He’s not alone in that observation.

There have been signs throughout the last five weeks’ rankings that this year’s committee is placing less emphasis on strength of schedule than in seasons past. Either that, or we’re just noticing it for the first time now that 12 teams qualify instead of four.

No. 2 Texas (11-1, 7-1 SEC), with zero Top 25 wins, has been consistently ranked above Georgia (10-2, 6-2 SEC), which has three of them, including at Texas. No. 3 Penn State (11-1, 8-1 Big Ten) has one Top 25 win and is three spots above Ohio State (10-2, 7-2), which has two top-10 wins, including at Penn State. Heck, go all the way to the bottom of the rankings and you’ll find No. 20 UNLV (10-2, 6-1 MWC), with zero Top 25 wins, two spots ahead of Syracuse (9-3, 5-3 ACC), which has two Top 25 wins — including at UNLV.

In all three cases, the higher-ranked team has the lower strength of schedule evaluation on the major published ratings (Sagarin, FPI, etc.), but are still ordered by number of losses. Much like how No. 10 Boise State, 11-1, has the 89th-ranked schedule on Jeff Sagarin’s ratings but is five spots above 10-2 Arizona State (38th) and Iowa State (42nd).

The Sun Devils and Cyclones will meet Saturday in a Playoff play-in game, but the winner could be seeded eight spots below Boise State and play a first-round road game while the Broncos get a bye.

“I’m uncomfortable that you’re saying the winner of the Big 12 can’t catch Boise State unless Boise State loses,” said Iowa State athletic director Jamie Pollard. “Strength of schedule, all the metrics … the only thing they have that we don’t is they’re 11-1 and we’re 10-2. If that’s the case, then play the easiest schedule. If you’re 11-1 or 12-0, you’re golden. You’re in. Because (the committee) just showed what they’re going to do with you.”

Lest you think this is all a wild conspiracy theory peddled by some Big 12 shills, Playoff committee chairman Warde Manuel all but affirmed this stance during a media teleconference following the Nov. 26 rankings show. He was asked how the committee “weighs (teams’) wins versus maybe lack of opportunity for good wins.”

“Teams can only play the schedule that’s in front of them,” said Manuel. “So we take the stance that we’re going to really look at these games, we’re going to look at the stats, we’re going to look at the strength of schedule, but we’re also going to look at how teams are performing against the competition that they have. From our perspective, if it was just about strength of schedule, we wouldn’t be needed. You could just take at the end of the season the top 12 teams with the highest strength of schedule and put them against each other.”

Manuel’s comments raised eyebrows with people familiar with the origins of the Playoff. When the commissioners designed the first four-team Playoff more than a decade ago, they opted for an NCAA basketball-style committee to select the teams because they believed traditional Top 25 polls did not do enough to reward tough schedules. Thus, why strength of schedule is literally listed as the very first item on the CFP’s own published “Selection Committee Protocol.”

Pollard, who spent five years serving on the NCAA men’s basketball committee, is struck by how much more subjective the football process seems to be compared with basketball’s. Discussion in the weeks and months leading up to March Madness revolves primarily around a team’s performance against opponents ranked in “Quad 1” and “Quad 2” of the NET computer rankings (which are published). He said Dan Gavitt, the NCAA’s vice president for basketball, specifically stresses to the committee that “the eye test is not something we say or use.”

The CFP equivalent to Gavitt is executive director Rich Clark, who succeeded the retired Bill Hancock this summer. Clark, a retired military officer, was previously superintendent for the U.S. Air Force Academy. Manuel is in his first season as committee chairman and six of the 13 members are new this season.  That’s a lot of change, all occurring in the same year that the bracket is expanding from four teams to 12.

“The basketball committee has years of experience trying to decide who’s 32 and 33 — and it’s hard,” said Pollard. “For the first time, the CFP committee is having to do that. So I’m trying to give them some grace.”

Ironically, when the committee made its most important decision of the season Tuesday, ranking 9-3 Alabama ahead of 10-2 Miami for what could become the last at-large berth in the field — finally, numbers mattered. Manuel laid out several hard facts in the case for the Crimson Tide: a better Top 25 record (3-1 vs. 0-1) and a better record against winning opponents (5-1 vs. 4-2). And yes, Alabama’s schedule strength is superior to Miami’s per every major outlet.

“I just want consistency,” said Pollard, who got into a social media feud on X with SMU counterpart Rick Hart shortly after Tuesday’s rankings show. “What appears to me is strength of schedule wasn’t the determining factor for SMU, Indiana and Boise State; it was (being) 11-1. I don’t have to like that, but if that’s the case, then OK, be consistent. And if that’s the case, how do you justify Miami?”

Manuel had a much kinder assessment of Miami back on Nov. 5, when the ‘Canes were still 9-0. Asked why they were five spots ahead of 8-0 BYU at the time, Manuel said Pollard’s least favorite words: “Eye test.”

Eye test may be the biggest factor lifting Boise State, which boasts potential Heisman winner Ashton Jeanty and gave No. 1 Oregon one of its toughest games of the season back in Week 2. Most college football followers have respect for the Broncos. But as Yormark notes, the Ducks were also Boise’s only Power 4 opponent all season — and the Broncos lost. “In no way,” he said, “should a Group of 5 champion be ranked above our champion.”

 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10689]

So schedule easier opponents OOC got it... Old Dominion Monarchs (only beat 23-19), Arkon Zips, Wofford Terriers will get a reprieve.  So are they going to schedule community college teams moving forward??

[statsman 5616]

4 minutes ago, satyanash said:

(Stewart Mandel) The critics are correct: The College Football Playoff committee is not rewarding strength of schedule

 

Mandel is such a shithead. Texas’ SOS is fine, and nothing to be ashamed of. Yes, no wins against teams ranked currently in the top 25. However, Texas has four wins against teams in Sagarin’s top 30.

[Red Five 41445]

It's so crazy to get shit on for our schedule in the year we joined the SEC and played the defending national champions on the road. I'm really sorry Michigan, OU, Florida, and Arkansas were all down this year and Texas should try harder in the future to prevent that from happening. 

Also aggy would be borderline top 10 right now had they beaten us, at home. 

[dcar00 14867]

1 hour ago, utee94 said:

Agree that wouldn't be good.  It'd actually be better if they were omitted completely this year, rather than making it in as a lower seed and having to travel to play against a good team on the road.  I don't really think Notre Dame is much of a threat, but Ohio State certainly is.

I'm not sure why anyone would care.  The 11 seed getting beat on the road by the 6 seed is supposed to happen and who cares if it Bama that gets beat.  we just have to fewer than 3 losses every year and we get in because SECSECSEC.  it doesn't matter if Bama is good or not.

[Sawbonz 27969]

15 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Michigan, OU, Florida, and Arkansas were all down this year

But all had quality wins

Michigan beat Ohio State, OU beat Alabama, Florida beat ole miss, and Arkansas beat Tennessee 

 

[Red Five 41445]

4 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

But all had quality wins

Michigan beat Ohio State, OU beat Alabama, Florida beat ole miss, and Arkansas beat Tennessee 

 

Yes. We are being penalized (not that it will matter) for what we have heard about and preached to for decades. Kind of infuriating. 

[Pig Bellmont 8822]

Just now, Red Five said:

We are being penalized

Are we? I mean talking heads are running their mouths but we’re #2 above all other 1 loss teams.  I’ve got nothing to complain about unless we do get matched up with Georgia again in our first playoff game. Surely the CFP committee won’t allow that to happen 

[Js1 86391]

31 minutes ago, Red Five said:

It's so crazy to get shit on for our schedule in the year we joined the SEC and played the defending national champions on the road. I'm really sorry Michigan, OU, Florida, and Arkansas were all down this year and Texas should try harder in the future to prevent that from happening. 

Also aggy would be borderline top 10 right now had they beaten us, at home. 

aggy would probably still be ranked if they had beaten Auburn

But alas, they aggy'd that one up 

[closetojumping 64755]

I find the SOS argument against Texas to be disingenuous, or ignorant. Guys like Mandel doing it aren't ignorant, they just like bitching about Texas for clicks and personal bias. Old school SEC talking heads are really struggling to frame up the reality of Texas showing up and not giving a fuck about deference or waiting turns or whatever other ethereal nonsense they have in their heads that they think actually matters.

Texas scheduled the most difficult OOC game in the country on paper. It's the same next year, too. They played two other eventual bowl teams in the OOC and the dreg on the OOC, La Monroe, wasn't an FCS team and almost went bowling. No one looked at that OOC in the preseason and gave it anything but praise. That should stand now compared to damned near any other program.

Regarding the SEC portion, cry me a fucking river. Be better. Stop talking shit about conference difficulty. Tennessee played the same schedule but traded Bama at home for ATM at Kyle Field. They played a decent, on paper, NCSU team, an FCS team, the worst team in FBS in Kent State, and fucking UTEP in their non-con. They couldn't even beat Arkansas. WTF aren't they getting the same level of whining and scrutiny? Teams like Ole Miss and Indiana should be ashamed of their OOC behaviors. Ohio State as well. All pussified nonsense.

I'm hoping Texas never does anything but scoff and mock when asked about it. 

[Huckleberry 34174]

Exactly. Texas's response should be that we scheduled Michigan and played an SEC schedule. Not much more we can do. 

If that ended up being only one ranked team maybe the media should stop fluffing the SEC so much. 

[statsman 5616]

Our schedule included three arch rivals. Yes, we played 6-6 Arkansas. We didn’t get the Hogs that lost to OSU; we got the version that beat Tennessee. 
Similarly, we got the 6-6 Sooners that beat Auburn, not the ones slapped around at home by the Gamecocks. 
And, of course, we got to play the 8-4 Ags team that beat LSU, not the slapdicks that lost to Auburn and s. Carolina. 

Edited December 5 by statsman

[Dbeasy 15464]

48 minutes ago, statsman said:

Mandel is such a shithead. Texas’ SOS is fine, and nothing to be ashamed of. Yes, no wins against teams ranked currently in the top 25. However, Texas has four wins against teams in Sagarin’s top 30.

 

39 minutes ago, Red Five said:

It's so crazy to get shit on for our schedule in the year we joined the SEC and played the defending national champions on the road. I'm really sorry Michigan, OU, Florida, and Arkansas were all down this year and Texas should try harder in the future to prevent that from happening. 

Also aggy would be borderline top 10 right now had they beaten us, at home. 

Texas hasn’t beaten anyone…except all the teams that have beaten the playoff teams.  

[Horn of Gabriel 1873]

13 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Fuck Bruce and Stew. They granted  a bullshit, softball, lobbying interview to Cristobal today. 
 

They actually attempted made the case that Miami should be in over a 2 loss Texas. It was a master class of Texas hate that even Looch would admire. 
 

I listened to that last night in the car and was laughing my ass off.  Christo was talking about his "top 25" defense...ok bud.  Miami is trash.  Bruce and Stew HAAAAAATE Texas.  Not sure if it's their PAC12/B1G bias or just Texas hate in general but they were going out of their way to shit all over Texas specifically.  #StayMad

[ClubWhatever 12232]

We can shut all that talk up Saturday at 6:30p

[JBJ 3761]

3 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

We can shut all that talk up Saturday at 6:30p

There's a thread for that.

[Had Enough 2096]

14 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Are we? I mean talking heads are running their mouths but we’re #2 above all other 1 loss teams.  I’ve got nothing to complain about unless we do get matched up with Georgia again in our first playoff game. Surely the CFP committee won’t allow that to happen 

We’re not being penalized.  Talking bs some about us?  Yeah.  We scheduled well what we control.  And thing is we dominated damn near everyone.  What two teams ever had possession in the 4th either leading or with the ability to take the lead (I think Vandy would have had to covert the 2 to do that)?  That’s pretty uncommon.

But in the end, the schedule wasn’t that great.  We got UF without a Qb.  OU had the backup in.  We’re winning those two anyway but maybe they were closer.  I’m not sure where the cut line would be from Tier 1 to Tier 2, but we’re a definite top tier team.

The terrible matchup for us like you said is Georgia.  Because two games is enough.

 

[Texasborn91 1062]

Haven’t we beaten like 8 or 9 bowl teams?

[BurntOrange&White 41354]

7 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

Haven’t we beaten like 8 or 9 bowl teams?

9

[Hermanator 7519]

2 hours ago, nnm said:

Just stop with the G5 stuff. That’s extremely Aggie. Never go full Aggie. 

The top B12 and ACC teams are heads and shoulders above the G5. Other than ND and Miami, no non-SECX3 or B1G team has a top 20 class, and none will be able to do that year after year going forward.  But they’re getting their share of talent. None of those programs will individually be consistently be top-10 teams, but there will be teams from those conferences in the top-10 every year, and they will be able to make runs. They’ll do so on the backs of developed seniors and decent transfers, similar to TCU 2022. They won’t be able to individually sustain that year after year, but they will be good. 
 

There’s a pretty steep drop off from B12 and ACC to G5. Being so ridiculously dismissive of the B12 and ACC is so very Aggie.  Be better. 

I don't think so at all. But we'll get a chance to see as the G5 Champ and the big 12 champ will take the field in the playoffs. Hopefully they get matched with SEC or Big 10 teams in the first round and we'll see what they do. 

[Js1 86391]

5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

9

ULM was pretty darn close

Not our fault the SEC gave us the 2 dog shit teams in UK and MSST

[Hermanator 7519]

7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

9

And only CSU and UTSA were non SEC or Big 10. We did work this year, and it appears our OL/RB/Defense are all playing at their highest level of the year now. 

[Beau Vine 55625]

3 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

I gotta tell you--I'm real concerned that Alabama is going to get stuck going to Columbus or South Bend and is going to get absolutely boat raced.  Alabama is a good team, don't get me wrong.  But they are very suspect on the road (their three losses are at Vanderbilt, at Tennessee, and at Oklahoma, with road wins coming at Wisconsin and at LSU).  And I really hate to be all "SEC, SEC, SEC," but the fact is that Alabama being a controversial entrant to the CFP and then getting absolutely drubbed in the first round on the road would be a bad look for the conference and could harm Texas and other SEC teams in the Committee's eyes in the future.

Point of clarification: Are you serious?  Or is this a texags bit?

[Zeus 6717]

look at this professional on college football live

who gave this goober airtime lol

[Pam Cummings 9805]

1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

Exactly. Texas's response should be that we scheduled Michigan and played an SEC schedule. Not much more we can do. 

If that ended up being only one ranked team maybe the media should stop fluffing the SEC so much. 

Nothing pisses me off more than listening to SEC people forgive Alabama's OU loss with "hurr durr tough conference" while not giving Texas ANY credit for beating who the fuck they were supposed to beat.

[kevwun 16095]

Vandy was a feisty team, so I can forgive that one.  OU is terrible though.  That loss should disqualify them.

[Red Five 41445]

8 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Nothing pisses me off more than listening to SEC people forgive Alabama's OU loss with "hurr durr tough conference" while not giving Texas ANY credit for beating who the fuck they were supposed to beat.

"Hurr durr the SEC is a grind each week. You don't get off weeks like in every other conference. You just don't understand."

"Ok well we joined the SEC and finished the regular season ranked first."

"Um well you had an easy schedule." 

[Hank Kingsley 21488]

The Bama-OU result was maybe the most shocking of the season for me. I literally did not see a situation where Bama wouldn't win, and even the Sooners I know felt the same way. If "disqualifying" 3rd losses existed, that was it. And the Sooners getting pasted the following week by a shitty LSU team just re-confirmed it. 

[dcar00 14867]

2 hours ago, Texasborn91 said:

Haven’t we beaten like 8 or 9 bowl teams?

but Georgia.....

[BurntOrange&White 41354]

8 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

The Bama-OU result was maybe the most shocking of the season for me. I literally did not see a situation where Bama wouldn't win, and even the Sooners I know felt the same way. If "disqualifying" 3rd losses existed, that was it. And the Sooners getting pasted the following week by a shitty LSU team just re-confirmed it. 

I would say that but Michigan beating Ohio State takes the cake for me. 

[Hermanator 7519]

27 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Vandy was a feisty team, so I can forgive that one.  OU is terrible though.  That loss should disqualify them.

Problem is everyone in that tier has those. Miami has a terrible defense and lost to Syracuse in a must win game. 

Ole Miss and SC lost to Alabama head to head, and head to head should always break ties between close teams. 

Everyone else played weak competition in conference. 

[kevwun 16095]

At least Michigan and Ohio St was a close game that went down to the wire.  OU blew Alabama out.

Edited December 5 by kevwun

[hornmpa96 2650]

Ole Miss lost to Kentucky. Kentucky only beat 1 Power 5 team all year which is Ole Miss.

[Hermanator 7519]

Realistically, the team that should get in ahead of Alabama is SMU if they lose a close, hard fought game to Clemson. They've done enough outside of that to warrant it. But we know the committee wants that Alabama national attention in the playoff. 

[yoladu 4177]

4 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

I gotta tell you--I'm real concerned that Alabama is going to get stuck going to Columbus or South Bend and is going to get absolutely boat raced.  Alabama is a good team, don't get me wrong.  But they are very suspect on the road (their three losses are at Vanderbilt, at Tennessee, and at Oklahoma, with road wins coming at Wisconsin and at LSU).  And I really hate to be all "SEC, SEC, SEC," but the fact is that Alabama being a controversial entrant to the CFP and then getting absolutely drubbed in the first round on the road would be a bad look for the conference and could harm Texas and other SEC teams in the Committee's eyes in the future.

Well, they are a 12 seed, they are supposed to get boatraced.

[ztejas 44095]

3 hours ago, satyanash said:

(Stewart Mandel) The critics are correct: The College Football Playoff committee is not rewarding strength of schedule

 

What a bunch of horse shit. The first factor is your record. Then we can talk SoS. 

WHY IS TEXAS ABOVE GEORGIA? WHY IS BOISE STATE ABOVE THE B12? WHY IS PSU ABOVE tOSU? Because they haven't lost as many games you chode. You know what's better than top 25 wins (which I'm so sick of seeing as a metric)? Not losing to unranked teams. You know what makes it hard to win a national championship? Losing a playoff game.

Also - there are 2 loss teams ahead of 1 loss teams and a 3 loss team ahead of 1 and 2 loss teams. So they absolutely are taking strength of schedule and record into account. 

This entire thing is like a nationwide IQ test for sports media and so many of these buffoons are outing themselves. It's honestly kind of great. 

[ztejas 44095]

2 hours ago, Had Enough said:

got UF without a Qb.  OU had the backup in.  We’re winning those two anyway but maybe they were closer.

No - OU had their starter in. Arnold got benched. Hawkins closed the Tenn game then played Auburn then played us. We would have fucked Arnold's shit up just the same.