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13 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

Ward is getting a lot of kudos for last night.

For what? He killed his team with three turnovers and Miami needed an insane amount of officiating bias to win. 

On 9/8/2024 at 8:36 PM, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Ashton Jeanty is an absolute freak. Imagine if he were on a blue blood team. Holy shit. 

 

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It would be cool to see Hunter or Jeanty win but it will likely require a Milroe injury or for him to stink it up down the stretch and lose a couple games. 

I think if BSU had beaten Oregon Jeanty would be more like 5 to 1.

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On 9/29/2024 at 8:41 AM, Kwix said:

When does the voting happen, after conference championships? 

Voters can submit the week before those conference title games up to a couple days after those games.

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Yuck... terrible opinions on rankings with Ewers only in Tier #4

B/R's 2024 Heisman Trophy Rankings: Jeanty, Hunter and a Year of the Outliers

David Kenyon        October 1, 2024

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For decades, two inarguable trends have dominated the Heisman Trophy race. The winner is almost exclusively a power-conference player, and it's usually a quarterback.

Might we see an outlier in 2024?

With every passing week, that possibility becomes a little more probable. There are still a few players who match the typical criteria—Alabama's Jalen Milroe and Miami's Cam Ward right now, most notably—but Boise State running back Ashton Jeanty and Colorado two-way talent Travis Hunter are both demanding our attention.

Jeanty's production is simply too great to ignore, and Hunter continues to excel on a CU squad that just keeps winning.

The tiers are a personal view but consider a player's production, team success and more historical Heisman trends.

Tier 4: Worth Monitoring

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Shedeur Sanders, QB, Colorado: On the heels of CU's best performance, Sanders merits a mention. He threw for 290 yards and three touchdowns as the Buffs steamrolled UCF 48-21 on the road. Colorado is idle in Week 6 before a key matchup at home against Kansas State.

Brady Cook, QB, Missouri: Cook returns to the field this weekend in a pivotal game for Mizzou. If the Tigers win at Texas A&M, they'll have navigated what seems like the second-toughest tilt on the schedule. Beyond it being impactful for Mizzou's hopes of making the College Football Playoff, it's a resume-building chance for Cook.

Quinn Ewers, QB, Texas: The most important part is Ewers will likely return when the Horns play rival Oklahoma in two weeks. However, it'll be difficult for Ewers to regain his footing in the award race. The last time an eventual Heisman winner missed a regular-season game was in 1993, and Ewers has missed two.

Tier 3: On the Radar

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Cade Klubnik, QB, Clemson: In three September games, Klubnik passed for 842 yards and 12 touchdowns while scampering for 123 yards and four scores. He's on a blazing hot streak. Clemson is aiming for a third straight ACC win when it travels to Florida State this weekend.

Carson Beck, QB, Georgia: The good news is Beck threw for 439 yards and three scores against Alabama, propelling a remarkable comeback from a 28-0 deficit to taking a late fourth-quarter lead. The bad news is two interceptions helped Bama build that margin, and Beck tossed a game-sealing third pick in the end zone during the final minute. Auburn comes to town in Week 6.

Garrett Nussmeier, QB, LSU: As the Tigers cruised past South Alabama, Nussmeier posted a career-high 409 yards while totaling four touchdowns and tossing a pair of interceptions. LSU is idle before a massive game at home against Ole Miss in Week 7.

Drew Allar, QB, Penn State: The main concern with Allar's candidacy popped up Saturday: Against the best defenses, the Nittany Lions simply aren't dangerous through the air. Allar said he didn't get bored being efficient in the 21-7 win over Illinois. Hey, the result matters most! Whatever it takes. When we look through the Heisman lens, though, throwing for 135 yards is not going to attract much attention.

 

 

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Tier 2: Top Contenders

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Ashton Jeanty, RB, Boise State: I'm still not vaulting him into "front-runner" status because of the historical trend. If we voted today, he'd deserve to be a finalist. But we do not vote today. Nevertheless, plenty of coaches would be content if their top running back had 864 scrimmage yards and 13 touchdown in a season. Jeanty did that in September. Boise State hosts Utah State this weekend.

Will Howard, QB, Ohio State: Consider this a tenuous position for Howard, whose candidacy is buoyed by the very historical trends that are an obstacle for Jeanty. The coming weeks will be critical here. Next up for Howard is a clash with Iowa's stout defense, followed by a trip to Oregon.

Jaxson Dart, QB, Ole Miss: Because of the Rebels' upset loss to Kentucky, Dart is no longer a favorite. Still, he leads the nation in passing yards and has totaled 16 touchdowns. Ole Miss travels to South Carolina and LSU over the next two weekends, so Dart has a couple of valuable opportunities to bolster—or, yes, hurt—his resume.

Dillon Gabriel, QB, Oregon: That showdown with Ohio State is peeking over the horizon, but Oregon hosts Michigan State this Friday night. Gabriel totaled 301 yards and three scores with one interception in the Ducks' 34-13 victory at UCLA on Saturday.

Nico Iamaleava, QB, Tennessee: Arkansas will be desperate for an upset when it hosts Tennessee this weekend. Iamaleava, meanwhile, could use an explosive showing to improve his Heisman odds. It's not entirely fair to drop him from Tier 1 following an idle weekend, but the current front-runners have far greater production than Iamaleava.

Miller Moss, QB, USC: Moss put together a nice bounce-back performance after USC's loss at Michigan. Although the Trojans had a rough start, he posted 325 total yards and four touchdowns in a 38-21 win over Wisconsin. USC heads to Minnesota this weekend.

Tier 1: The Favorites

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Jalen Milroe, QB, Alabama: Given that UGA clawed back by quieting Bama's offense in the second half, I wouldn't quite say Milroe has a "Heisman moment" locked in. But you could do a lot worse than throwing for 374, running for 117 and totaling four touchdowns—including a late, winning 75-yard score—against Georgia. He's the deserved favorite right now.

Travis Hunter, WR/CB, Colorado: After an upcoming idle weekend, Colorado plays two massive games. Kansas State, currently ranked 20th, comes to Boulder, and then the Buffs travel to Arizona. If they split or sweep, Hunter figures to stick as a front-runner into November. He's reeled in 46 passes—tied for third nationally—for 561 yards and six scores, made 16 tackles, nabbed two interceptions and forced a game-sealing fumble.

Cam Ward, QB, Miami: It wasn't pretty, and it was controversial. However, the 'Canes edged Virginia Tech 38-34 despite Ward's three turnovers and a Hail Mary review that surprisingly went Miami's way, given the original call on the field. But let's keep perspective: Ward had a subpar game yet totaled 400 yards and five touchdowns in a win. The last part minimizes the impact of his giveaways. Miami plays at Cal in Week 6.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Yuck... terrible opinions on rankings with Ewers only in Tier #4

B/R's 2024 Heisman Trophy Rankings: Jeanty, Hunter and a Year of the Outliers

David Kenyon        October 1, 2024

 

 

 

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The last time an eventual Heisman winner missed a regular-season game was in 1993, and Ewers has missed two.

This is why. Not a terrible opinion. 

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21 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

This is why. Not a terrible opinion. 

That's pretty interesting. I certainly would've guessed some recent Heisman winners had missed at least a game. I still think Ewers would be the favorite if we beat OU, UGA and win the SEC title game against Bama or someone like that, but Quinn obviously can't miss any more time or have any slip ups. I would still say he's Tier 2 though. He is more likely to win the Heisman than either Jaxson Dart or Miller Moss. Those guys aren't good enough individually to win it with 2-3 losses. 

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The challenge for Ewers is that the Heisman is as much about accumulating statistics as it is winning big games and being a Quarterback.

Milroe has played every game, accounted for 18 touchdowns in four games, passed for 964 yards with only 1 interception, ran for 273. And on the biggest stage of the season so far, he passed for 374 and two touchdowns and ran for 117 and two touchdowns to lead his team to the number one ranking. 

Another thing hurting Quinn is that when he went down, his backup QB statistically outperformed him. So some voters may ask "Is Quinn good, or is it Sark and the system?"

He'll have an opportunity to get back in the race if he shines against OU, Georgia, and in the SEC Championship game. 

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Before his injury against UTSA, Quinn Ewers was one of the favorites to receive the Heisman Trophy at the end of the season.

While dealing with a strained abdomen for the past two game weeks, Ewers was out of play time. Still, the Texas quarterback is still in the watch-list top-10 ahead of a bye week and a Red River Rivalry game against Oklahoma on Oct. 12.

According to FanDuel, Ewers ranks No. 7 in the most recent predictions following Week 5 with odds of +2000, tied with Ole Miss quarterback Jaxson Dart. Before the injury, Ewers had thrown for 692 yards and eight touchdowns to two interceptions in the first three games.

Here is who Ewers is up against in the fight for the prestigious award:

+220 - QB Jalen Monroe, Alabama

+350 - Wide receiver Travis Hunter, Colorado

+500 - QB Cam Ward, Miami

+900 - Running back Ashton Jeanty, Boise State

+1500 - QB Nico Iamaleava, Tennessee

+1800 - QB Dillon Gabriel, Oregon

+2000 - QB Quinn Ewers, Texas

+2000 - QB Jaxson Dart, Mississippi

+2500 - QB Carson Beck, Georgia

+2500 - QB Cade Klubnik, Clemson

 

Seven of the last eight Heisman winners have been quarterbacks, including last year's winner LSU quarterback Jayden Daniels, but Hunter and Jeanty have a real shot in breaking that streak.

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Heisman, Schmeisman.  The Horns ain’t losing in the regular season and barring further dings, Ewers will be steering the rest of the way other than mopup time for Arch.  Unless he lays a huge Ostrich 🥚 in the SECCG, it’s his for the taking.  And I’m a Bama fan who thanks God Milroe didn’t go to the 40 Acres.  Maybe I’m nuts but that’s how I see it.  Texas will lay a fifty burger on Georgia.  Put decent pressure on Beck and he gets the yips.  Game ovah.  Aggy has no prayer.  UK will be a better game than aggy.

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3 minutes ago, Bama Llama said:

Heisman, Schmeisman.  The Horns ain’t losing in the regular season and barring further dings, Ewers will be steering the rest of the way other than mopup time for Arch.  Unless he lays a huge Ostrich 🥚 in the SECCG, it’s his for the taking.  And I’m a Bama fan who thanks God Milroe didn’t go to the 40 Acres.  Maybe I’m nuts but that’s how I see it.  Texas will lay a fifty burger on Georgia.  Put decent pressure on Beck and he gets the yips.  Game ovah.  Aggy has no prayer.  UK will be a better game than aggy.

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6 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

Lots of meaningless things are used for marketing.  It's not like he called it useless.

If it can be used for marketing, it has meaning. 

How are you distinguishing “useless” from “meaningless” here?

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1 minute ago, Hook1997 said:

He would need to put up crazy numbers the rest of the year for even a chance to win.  I think he gets invited but probably finishes in back of the pack.  

Probably so, but I think Texas could try to frame it around big performances in big wins, rather than kicking poor teams when they’re down. 

Putting up numbers against Michigan, OU, UGA, A&M, and in the SEC championship game says more than continuing to pummel CSU or UTSA. Still, an uphill battle. 

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And Taylor and Corum were running behind monster OLs.

BSU probably needs to win out and make the dance and he will need some other shit to fall his way but he could very realistically get invited. 

As far as Quinn goes - there isn't really precedent for a guy missing 2 games winning it - but we play enough marquee games and if we get a crack at Bama and Milroe in the SECCG and beat them and Quinn plays well it will be hard to not give him votes.

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1 hour ago, Hank_Hill said:

I don’t give a fuck who he’s playing for/against.

I mean he had 192 against Oregon and 267 against Wazzu.

It's not like he's padding his totals against MAC teams and FCS cupcakes.

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