SEC Refs Suck

[Victorious1 181]

Did you see the difference is Sark's face between the ist half and 2nd half?

1st half is anger at all the shitty calls going against his team and lack of calls on the UGA. 

2nd half is realization and acceptance that the officials are fucking Texas and there's nothing he can do about it.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,762]

14 hours ago, BigHorn'13 said:

I really would like someone with the skills to make an edit (like the '15 okie lite screw job) of the fuckery that occurred last night. Without it, just as someone else upthread stated, we're just going to be labeled as homers.

It can't be said enough-- fuck this redneck conference. 

I'd love to see it too, the okie lite game was next level and I don't think this was close to that. Outside the roughing call which I could see how it got called at least (wrongly, but at least there was something) I couldn't disagress with any of the other calls that were made. It was more of were the calls going both ways. Sark obviously felt holding wasn't. I didn't see any that really stood out, but we don't get all the replays/angles when the refs don't call them.

[Zeus 6,753]

13 minutes ago, Victorious1 said:

Did you see the difference is Sark's face between the ist half and 2nd half?

1st half is anger at all the shitty calls going against his team and lack of calls on the UGA. 

2nd half is realization and acceptance that the officials are fucking Texas and there's nothing he can do about it.

Yep the script was written.

Then go into overtime and we get Manning-mode and instead of actually doing that just have Quinn toss up a few prayers and kick the FG and get out of there.

[Catdaddyhorn 3,462]

As long as we don't have SEC refs against Clemson I expect our run game to come back alive.  

[Zeus 6,753]

12 minutes ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

As long as we don't have SEC refs against Clemson I expect our run game to come back alive.  

Honestly I think the SEC refs will give us a fair shot the rest of the way.

They just wanted to fuck us against Georgia for the water bottle thing and so we wouldn't come in and win our first year in the SEC. It was a done deal.

We are a better first week home game $$$ for the CFP too so they wanted that. 

I figured we would get Alabama in the first round I bet that was their idea too.

[DaysOff 8,157]

They need to revamp the replay system, including allowing one coach's challenge each game for penalties, either called or uncalled.

Doesn't the CFL do it this way?

[BabaYaga 15,532]

25 minutes ago, Victorious1 said:

Did you see the difference is Sark's face between the ist half and 2nd half?

1st half is anger at all the shitty calls going against his team and lack of calls on the UGA. 

2nd half is realization and acceptance that the officials are fucking Texas and there's nothing he can do about it.

The first thing to do when you are fucked, is to unfuck yourself.  He's not helpless.  Earn your GD money. 

[someguy 1,539]

44 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

I'd love to see it too, the okie lite game was next level and I don't think this was close to that. Outside the roughing call which I could see how it got called at least (wrongly, but at least there was something) I couldn't disagress with any of the other calls that were made. It was more of were the calls going both ways. Sark obviously felt holding wasn't. I didn't see any that really stood out, but we don't get all the replays/angles when the refs don't call them.

I was there in the lower bowl.  Georgia was getting away with a lot of holding on their edge runs (holds on Moore and Lole stand out particularly in my mind).  I don't know if they showed it on TV, but there was one run Georgia had that gained maybe 10-12 yards where Moore was grabbed onto and prevented from closing the gap that was used.  Sark was going absolutely nuts on the sideline.  There was another later in the game where Sark went all the way down to the 10 yard line talking to the ref, who promptly shooed him back inside the box.

Bottom line - I agree that the bigger issue was less the calls against Texas, but the different standards between what constituted a penalty against Texas and what constituted a penalty against Georgia.  Wanna call Muhammed for PI for a tug on the shoulder?  Fine, but call it both ways.  Wanna call Hill for roughing on an ordinary football play?  Fine, but call it against Georgia too.  

My dad, who lives on the East Coast, told me that on Sunday an Oregon fan approached him and said he couldn't believe how much the officials had it in for Texas.  That is just a single anecdote, but I do think the double standard was blatant and obvious to most neutral observers.

[utee94 16,066]

15 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

The first thing to do when you are fucked, is to unfuck yourself.  He's not helpless.  Earn your GD money. 

Meh, there was no unfucking what the officials were deliberately doing to Texas on Saturday.

The good news is we won't have an SEC officiating crew for any more games this year.

The bad news is, we might get a Rig 12 crew...

[Jkwellborn 7,006]

We had a punt formation that did an entire or almost entire team shift, and the Georgia players jumped well offsides. They called a false start. Announcers said something about how the right guard was the one player who couldn’t move, and he moved.  It didn’t explain wh that might be true, nor I believe showed a replay.  I was lost on why a false start was called. 

That blew my mind too. Why the fuck couldn’t the right guard move? He wasn’t the deep snapper.

[Nueces River Rat 5,739]

Meh, there was no unfucking what the officials were deliberately doing to Texas on Saturday.
The good news is we won't have an SEC officiating crew for any more games this year.
The bad news is, we might get a Rig 12 crew...

In this new format, I wonder if coaches get to voice disapproval for Refs. We shouldn’t want Rig 12 Refs anywhere near DKR next Saturday because the following week is the Rig 12 Rep awaiting the winner. Clemson would be an easier path for ASU for sure.

[thunderlounge 8,318]

I'm just wondering if the non-sec ref crews will let ol Kirby get away with his bullshit. My guess is probably so, unfortunately. But maybe he fucks around and finds out.

[Nueces River Rat 5,739]

I'd love to see it too, the okie lite game was next level and I don't think this was close to that. Outside the roughing call which I could see how it got called at least (wrongly, but at least there was something) I couldn't disagress with any of the other calls that were made. It was more of were the calls going both ways. Sark obviously felt holding wasn't. I didn't see any that really stood out, but we don't get all the replays/angles when the refs don't call them.

To my recollection, I have yet to hear Sark call out Refs during or post game like he did the other night. He’s nowhere close to Kirby Cry baby in that regard. That alone should tell us it was obvious and not being called.

Even during some the obvious Rig jobs in the Rig 12 like the Kevin Mar crew calling zero penalties against Okie State a few years ago , Sark showed no anger much less a mention in passing.

[Nueces River Rat 5,739]

I'm just wondering if the non-sec ref crews will let ol Kirby get away with his bullshit. My guess is probably so, unfortunately. But maybe he fucks around and finds out.

ACC crews have every incentive to fuck him up based on the fuckery the SEC crews did to Georgia Tech. They likely won’t get an ACC crew if they play Norte Dame because of the scheduling agreement with the ACC for football and the rest of the sports being ACC. Indiana? Maybe.

[Nivek 17,330]

11 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said:

ACC crews have every incentive to fuck him up based on the fuckery the SEC crews did to Georgia Tech. They likely won’t get an ACC crew if they play Norte Dame because of the scheduling agreement with the ACC for football and the rest of the sports being ACC. Indiana? Maybe.

You would hope, but they won't. 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,762]

4 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

We had a punt formation that did an entire or almost entire team shift, and the Georgia players jumped well offsides. They called a false start. Announcers said something about how the right guard was the one player who couldn’t move, and he moved.  It didn’t explain wh that might be true, nor I believe showed a replay.  I was lost on why a false start was called. 

Yeah, I think announcers just phrased things wrong.  The problem was right guard had his outside leg back and when he shifted he went left-right-forward in a motion that was too quick and not controlled shift. Was just awkward

 

[Nueces River Rat 5,739]

[Zeus 6,753]

big10 officials fucked us vs. Washington last year

But I donno as long as they call it somewhat even we should be just fine against SMU and fucking Arizona St.

It's going to get real interesting against Oregon and ND 🙂

[thunderlounge 8,318]

That really is the biggest thing. 
 

Call it tight, call it loose, it don’t make a shit.

But call it the same both ways. Period. 

[NorthLoop 14,421]

Us against Clemson would've only either been Big 10 or Rig 12 officials, so I'm glad we got the former. 

[Nueces River Rat 5,739]

big10 officials fucked us vs. Washington last year
But I donno as long as they call it somewhat even we should be just fine against SMU and fucking Arizona St.
It's going to get real interesting against Oregon and ND

Big 10 Refs had no business calling our game last year since Washington was headed to the Big 10 this year.

But thank goodness no chance of Rig 12 crew especially led by Marr or Alvarez . At least until the third round.

[JBJ 3,780]

4 hours ago, Zeus said:

Honestly I think the SEC refs will give us a fair shot the rest of the way.

They just wanted to fuck us against Georgia for the water bottle thing and so we wouldn't come in and win our first year in the SEC. It was a done deal.

We are a better first week home game $$$ for the CFP too so they wanted that. 

I figured we would get Alabama in the first round I bet that was their idea too.

The idea was to get Tennessee a home game and Bama into the playoff because both beat UGA.  It didn't work.

[Beau Vine 55,824]

40 minutes ago, Zeus said:

big10 officials fucked us vs. Washington last year

[dcar00 14,902]

48 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said:

 

I wonder who the Big 10 officials will want Oregon to play?  Should be ACC officials for that game.

[TrashMaster G 18,030]

54 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

Us against Clemson would've only either been Big 10 or Rig 12 officials, so I'm glad we got the former. 

Why not Mountain West or MAC?

[Zeus 6,753]

49 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I wonder who the Big 10 officials will want Oregon to play?  Should be ACC officials for that game.

Or just get unbiased NCAA officials that have no conference affiliation. 

[Beau Vine 55,824]

I mentioned yesterday that this was the worst non-call I saw Saturday:

Well, I finally found a clip of what was probably a more ridiculous no-call:

I guess the umpire missed the obvious holds by the Center and Left Tackle because he was too focused on trying to decide whether or not the Left Guard was holding. 

Edited December 9 by Beau Vine

[HenryJames 67,116]

Running backs matter, but not as much if you can hold the linebacker.

[Pescado_Rojo 19,558]

15 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

I mentioned yesterday that this was the worst non-call I saw Saturday:

Well, I finally found a clip of what was probably a more ridiculous no-call:

I guess the umpire missed the obvious holds by the Center and Left Tackle because he was too focused on trying to decide whether or not the Left Guard was holding. 

Their center held all night. 

[Nueces River Rat 5,739]

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[Nivek 17,330]

haha, you can see another UGA guy running down the sideline in the white after the officials.   No call, no warning.  In 2 screen caps, we now have 6 penalties for being where they weren't allowed.   

 

Fuck Kirby is flapping his arms into the field of play and the ref is staring right at it.  How is this not rigged?

Edited December 9 by Nivek

[Zeus 6,753]

2 hours ago, Nivek said:

haha, you can see another UGA guy running down the sideline in the white after the officials.   No call, no warning.  In 2 screen caps, we now have 6 penalties for being where they weren't allowed.   

 

Fuck Kirby is flapping his arms into the field of play and the ref is staring right at it.  How is this not rigged?

It’s all good bros football Gods made it right

carson beck is out and they are gonna get beat by fucking Notre Dame lmao

[CurlyDumps 4,618]

4 minutes ago, Zeus said:

It’s all good bros football Gods made it right

carson beck is out and they are gonna get beat by fucking Notre Dame lmao

You sure we didn't do them a favor?

[Zeus 6,753]

16 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

You sure we didn't do them a favor?

Hell nah Carson Beck can get in a groove and play pretty well. 
 

That backup gave their team a spark but once the cracks started to show he was cooked. 
 

They wont make it past Notre Dame. That QB may not make it past halftime. 

 

 

 

Edited December 10 by Zeus

[Catdaddyhorn 3,462]

How the fuck did he hold onto that ball?

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 3,543]

34 minutes ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

How the fuck did he hold onto that ball?

Pure luck. Although you know if he fumbled/we recovered, there’s not a chance in holy hell they pick up that targeting flag.

[A’Dam Psycho 1,490]

14 hours ago, someguy said:

I was there in the lower bowl.  Georgia was getting away with a lot of holding on their edge runs (holds on Moore and Lole stand out particularly in my mind).  I don't know if they showed it on TV, but there was one run Georgia had that gained maybe 10-12 yards where Moore was grabbed onto and prevented from closing the gap that was used.  Sark was going absolutely nuts on the sideline.  There was another later in the game where Sark went all the way down to the 10 yard line talking to the ref, who promptly shooed him back inside the box.

Bottom line - I agree that the bigger issue was less the calls against Texas, but the different standards between what constituted a penalty against Texas and what constituted a penalty against Georgia.  Wanna call Muhammed for PI for a tug on the shoulder?  Fine, but call it both ways.  Wanna call Hill for roughing on an ordinary football play?  Fine, but call it against Georgia too.  

My dad, who lives on the East Coast, told me that on Sunday an Oregon fan approached him and said he couldn't believe how much the officials had it in for Texas.  That is just a single anecdote, but I do think the double standard was blatant and obvious to most neutral observers.

They definitely showed

I swore Lole was getting held on every run play. I mean everyone 

[dec3169 545]

14 hours ago, utee94 said:

Meh, there was no unfucking what the officials were deliberately doing to Texas on Saturday.

The good news is we won't have an SEC officiating crew for any more games this year.

The bad news is, we might get a Rig 12 crew...

If that happens, maybe we can get the punter to kick the ball at Mar like most of the guys do on GameDay - shank it hard left or right.  I'm surprised there haven't been any broken noses or glasses...  Let the punter decide where to aim.

On second thought, the punter would probably miss or not kick it that far.

[Zeus 6,753]

2 hours ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

Pure luck. Although you know if he fumbled/we recovered, there’s not a chance in holy hell they pick up that targeting flag.

Bingo

[Jkwellborn 7,006]

How the fuck did he hold onto that ball?

It got crushed into him. Plus, it was probably some instinctual reaction cause he may have got knocked the fuck out.

[Nivek 17,330]

6 hours ago, dec3169 said:

If that happens, maybe we can get the punter to kick the ball at Mar like most of the guys do on GameDay - shank it hard left or right.  I'm surprised there haven't been any broken noses or glasses...  Let the punter decide where to aim.

On second thought, the punter would probably miss or not kick it that far.

Just send him a check.   One to fuck UGA over B12 style and one more to fuck our opponents over, B12 Style.

[locodos 5,583]

13 hours ago, Nivek said:

haha, you can see another UGA guy running down the sideline in the white after the officials.   No call, no warning.  In 2 screen caps, we now have 6 penalties for being where they weren't allowed.   

 

Fuck Kirby is flapping his arms into the field of play and the ref is staring right at it.  How is this not rigged?

I'm not out here defending sec refs or georgia, far from it.  But if you think Kirby acting like an entitled snowflake who's doing keybumps on the sidelines proves the game is rigged, then I've got news for you, he does it every fucking game.  Yes it should be flagged, but it never is.

Also I feel you're pain, the Gata, in our heyday, was ALWAYS the most flagged team in the secsec by a long shot.

[Catdaddyhorn 3,462]

Listening to the SEC network on XM and the purported broadcasters/journalist were (Alyssa Lang and Chris Doering) talking about how they were rooting for Georgia during the game.  There's no question in my mind that those refs were right there with them.  

[ClubWhatever 12,277]

Most of the SEC is pure human garbage.

[Nivek 17,330]

51 minutes ago, locodos said:

I'm not out here defending sec refs or georgia, far from it.  But if you think Kirby acting like an entitled snowflake who's doing keybumps on the sidelines proves the game is rigged, then I've got news for you, he does it every fucking game.  Yes it should be flagged, but it never is.

Also I feel you're pain, the Gata, in our heyday, was ALWAYS the most flagged team in the secsec by a long shot.

It is not a singular thing, it is the entirety of the officiating that makes it rigged.  Multiple times we have shown clear obvious fouls that are not even questionable, the same crew that could see a smidge of grass on that UGA player marking him inbounds, suddenly is blind when it comes to their coaching staff running all over the place.  The two different applications of holding when it is happening right in front of the officials, the two different applications of roughing, the two different applications of PI were a significant game changer.   Texas lost nearly 80 out of 250 yards in the first half due to penalties, so the game would be closer.   With proper officiating the game would have been a blowout win for Texas.   But since WRs for Texas were not allowed to block, it modifies how the game can be played.   Texas simply wasn't prepared to play a rigged game.   The Georgia offense couldn't do shit without ref-assisted or ref-ignored fuckery.

 

A quick search has one ref fired from the NFL after screwing up and eliminating a team from the playoffs, and another has been suspended for screw ups in the SEC.    Two more are Alabama Alum.  One is a SCAR alum.  Interpret that how you want.   

[Felix 613]

A classic example is the hands to the face call.  They couldn't see the holding next to it, but they saw that.  Ironically if you look at one of the ones where they called holding on us, in the frame is a Georgia guy with his hand up under, I think, Goolsby's facemask just like that.  Somehow they didn't see that one.

[Skipper 6,406]

I haven't read the entire thread but seeing how many pages it grew, I'm glad to know it was as bad on TV as it looked from the stands.   Doesn't excuse our failure to make winning plays (or fucking kicks) but there was no doubt in my mind that crew was doing everything they could to keep UGA in the game in the first half.

[locodos 5,583]

3 hours ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

Listening to the SEC network on XM and the purported broadcasters/journalist were (Alyssa Lang and Chris Doering) talking about how they were rooting for Georgia during the game.  There's no question in my mind that those refs were right there with them.  

Bullshit

This is like Vince Young rooting for OU.  I could see him understanding he needs to play it straight, but rooting for the dawgs?  I don't believe it.

[sidis 9,990]

4 minutes ago, locodos said:

Bullshit

This is like Vince Young rooting for OU.  I could see him understanding he needs to play it straight, but rooting for the dawgs?  I don't believe it.

wrong. he said it straight up dude. he said it before the game on the sec network. he's been bagging on texas all year and said that at the end of the day, he had to root for uga because a first year sec team should have to take their lumps.

[locodos 5,583]

11 minutes ago, sidis said:

wrong. he said it straight up dude. he said it before the game on the sec network. he's been bagging on texas all year and said that at the end of the day, he had to root for uga because a first year sec team should have to take their lumps.

Disappointing.  I haven't watched espn/SEC network pregame stuff in years.   That said, I just went and looked at all the clips ESPN has of Georgia/Texas and Doering is just saying UT's OL has to protect better than it did in the first meeting and both teams should run the ball more. True? I think so.  If you have a clip or a link, I'd love to see it.