Game Week Thread Week 4, 2024; ULM at Texas

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

Just now, BurntEyes said:

I think Ewers should focus on classes for the next two weeks to make sure he makes honor roll and keep his starting job. NFL scouts really look closely at grades and Sark has openly said A students start ahead of B students.

That’s an option. 

Also, “Here’s all the tape we have on OU and Georgia. Watch the hell out of this for a month or so while you rehab and Arch and Trey go in dry on ULM and MSU. We’ll hand you back the keys in Dallas.”

[ousux 5586]

I remember paying $29.99 to watch the shit games when I was living in Wisconsin.  

That's only $20.04 more than excellent recruiting insights, hot takes and speculation. Sounds like a bargain to me.

[Hagbard Celine 10734]

1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

Which is exactly why I changed my prediction from a 3rd quarter pic six to a punt return for TD. Also why I think we'll score less than 60. I anticipate a pretty humdrum game with Texas working Arch in passing early and converting to quick dumps, screens and runs late 3rd and 4th. Maybe test some trickeration plays to give future DCs more to digest.

opposite camp

it's time to go vanilla as possible to keep film exposure to absolute minimum for venables and smart

klan aggy should prove more of a test than ulm but i hope sark uses both to lay down some looks out of which he runs something never before seen in 3 and 4 weeks time

[BurntEyes 5808]

36 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

opposite camp

it's time to go vanilla as possible to keep film exposure to absolute minimum for venables and smart

klan aggy should prove more of a test than ulm but i hope sark uses both to lay down some looks out of which he runs something never before seen in 3 and 4 weeks time

This is a bad take. It's a FUMB plan. Why the FUCK wouldn't we want our back up getting meanful snaps? If this is sarcasm and I missed it, well, my bad. If it's serious, holy shit, go pull for the Tarheals.

Edited September 18 by BurntEyes

[Jive Turkey 12562]

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preach.

as someone who works from home, i have ESPN+ on a lot in the background.  i'll watch the most random Tuesday afternoon men's and women's college soccer games, volleyball matches, baseball/softball, you name it.  hell, i had the Harvard/Yale regatta on one weekend earlier this year bc there wasn't shit else on.  but ESPN+ will have something.  and you have access to the 30 for 30 library, all the docs, PGA tour event early round coverage, US Open tennis matches from all the courts.   just so much sports.  i would have OD'd on this shit if it was around when i was 13 years old.

and like others say, with the Disney+ and Hulu bundle, it's worth every penny.

[Hagbard Celine 10734]

18 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

This is a bad take. It's a FUMB plan. Why the FUCK wouldn't we want our back up getting meanful snaps? If this is sarcasm and I missed it, well, my bad. If it's serious, holy shit, go pull for the Tarheals.

agree to disagree

how many "real looks" do we need to give arch to prove he's a jedi that can wield the power of the force?

he's a fucking jedi

we have 2 jedis in the qb room

we already know this

we need to get arch a comfortable lead, and that could take until the 4th quarter, who knows

but if there is any "free time" for real looks with the result settled, then the guy who needs all of the real looks is owens (see: mceachern, randy, fair park, 1977)

and what is the emergency plan behind owens god forbid (NO VOODOO LEGBA BE GONE)

/parcells

[kevwun 15595]

Arch has a ways to go to get where Quinn is.  He needs experience running the offense.

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

5 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

agree to disagree

how many "real looks" do we need to give arch to prove he's a jedi that can wield the power of the force?

he's a fucking jedi

we have 2 jedis in the qb room

we already know this

we need to get arch a comfortable lead, and that could take until the 4th quarter, who knows

but if there is any "free time" for real looks with the result settled, then the guy who needs all of the real looks is owens (see: mceachern, randy, fair park, 1977)

and what is the emergency plan behind owens god forbid (NO VOODOO LEGBA BE GONE)

/parcells

Enough that he gets the ball out more quickly, doesn’t throw a screen that could be a pick six, and doesn’t get plowed by rushers. It’s all well and good when it’s UTSA. Not so well and good if it’s a team with better athletes. 

[Sock Monkey 718]

Y’all seen this shit?

 

[Post Oak 20182]

It don't make a shit

[Hermanator 6916]

He's right though. They aren't preparing for this like they do Michigan, OU, GA, and other SEC teams. Doesn't mean they won't prepare at all and it shouldn't make a difference because they'll be properly prepared for a ULM level team like they were for UTSA and CSU. 

[South Austin 52037]

1 minute ago, Hermanator said:

They aren't preparing for this like they do Michigan, OU, GA, and other SEC teams. 

Uh, this week we are preparing for OU and Georgia.

[closetojumping 62132]

35 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Uh, this week we are preparing for OU and Georgia.

This has been mentioned some but it's pretty fucking cool that Texas is getting to work on future game installs while OU and Georgia can go get fucked. OU's typical bullshit of playing no one and then showing up with new and well-trained shit against Texas is not a thing this season. 

[Fondren & Main 6658]

3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

This has been mentioned some but it's pretty fucking cool that Texas is getting to work on future game installs while OU and Georgia can go get fucked. OU's typical bullshit of playing no one and then showing up with new and well-trained shit against Texas is not a thing this season. 

I'm not impressed with that QB at all.  He's pure asshole once Littrell's script is used up.  We need to keep him from running on us and force the cocksucker to throw it to their slow shitty receivers.  They looked like pure ass against Tulane.

[elfenix 34168]

On 9/16/2024 at 11:47 AM, Js1 said:

Correct.  SECN+ is an extension of your SEC Network access from your cable or streaming subscription.  ESPN+ is wholly separate from your ESPN access from your cable or streaming subscription.  

This game is accessible via either your SEC Network cable subscription or your extra ESPN+ subscription. 

This is an exercise in terrible branding.

[Hagbard Celine 10734]

18 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

This has been mentioned some but it's pretty fucking cool that Texas is getting to work on future game installs while OU and Georgia can go get fucked. OU's typical bullshit of playing no one and then showing up with new and well-trained shit against Texas is not a thing this season. 

i can't remember what year it was but during the aughts bag of dicks had this "statue of liberty handoff" play that he went to over and over and over for 20 yards on the ground every time and of course mack didn't call time out or adjust to it at all at halftime, they had saved it for us, not shown it all, and just fucking gouged us with it

Edited September 18 by Hagbard Celine
derp

[immamac 42492]

1 hour ago, Sock Monkey said:

Y’all seen this shit?

 

I just watched his entire presser and he didn't say that. This is AI generated or something. He actually said the opposite, that they are telling the kids if you want to see what it's like to play in a national championship game this is it. That Texas is extremely dangerous and well coached etc. 

[immamac 42492]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

I just watched his entire presser and he didn't say that. This is AI generated or something. He actually said the opposite, that they are telling the kids if you want to see what it's like to play in a national championship game this is it. That Texas is extremely dangerous and well coached etc. 

wow I'm a moron, at the very end he says this. IDK if he's kidding LMAO 

[ClubWhatever 12085]

3 minutes ago, immamac said:

wow I'm a moron, at the very end he says this. IDK if he's kidding LMAO 

Change thread to "I can't process info, come shit on me"

[Red Five 40593]

5 minutes ago, immamac said:

wow I'm a moron, at the very end he says this. IDK if he's kidding LMAO 

He's right though. I'm not seeing the issue. 

[immamac 42492]

it's crazy cuz the presser starts off the exact opposite. Then he talks about ULM guys could play at Texas they just didn't get promo from their coaches or go to camps. shit is wild.

[immamac 42492]

1 minute ago, Red Five said:

He's right though. I'm not seeing the issue. 

I would say that was true even a little bit last year. This year this is not true. These guys are on a different level of locked in. 

[Red Five 40593]

2 minutes ago, immamac said:

I would say that was true even a little bit last year. This year this is not true. These guys are on a different level of locked in. 

I don't think he was suggesting that we aren't. Just that we won't prepare for them like we would for most other teams on our schedule.

[immamac 42492]

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[Doc Daneeka 6769]

Their head coach was spot on in what I saw from him. Big opportunity. Big stage. They need to prepare and step up and see where they are as a program. He made it about his team, while acknowledging the challenge. Good stuff, imo. 

[BERT 4345]

44 minutes ago, immamac said:

I just watched his entire presser and he didn't say that. This is AI generated or something. He actually said the opposite, that they are telling the kids if you want to see what it's like to play in a national championship game this is it. That Texas is extremely dangerous and well coached etc. 

 

43 minutes ago, immamac said:

wow I'm a moron, at the very end he says this. IDK if he's kidding LMAO 

[The Dog 43771]

2 hours ago, Sock Monkey said:

Y’all seen this shit?

 

[texifornia 56434]

 

[South Austin 52037]

9 minutes ago, texifornia said:

 

[BERT 4345]

17 minutes ago, texifornia said:

 

Oh so they want a number 6 worked up on them. Fun

[Cairn Horn88 8148]

6 hours ago, kevwun said:

Arch has a ways to go to get where Quinn is.  He needs experience running the offense.

Just think…if Quinn’s first game back is ou, he’s gonna be a little rusty, plus this will be the best defense he’s probably seen so far this year….so, you can bet that ou defense will try to lay the wood on him….don’t think he can take to much abuse at this stage.

[texifornia 56434]

Just now, Cairn Horn88 said:

Just think…if Quinn’s first game back is ou, he’s gonna be a little rusty, plus this will be the best defense he’s probably seen so far this year….so, you can bet that ou defense will try to lay the wood on him….don’t think he can take to much abuse at this stage.

...so what is your point here?

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

I'm not sure OU's defense is better than Michigan's defense either. 

[Mittens 8147]

1 hour ago, texifornia said:

 

 

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

1 hour ago, BERT said:

Oh so they want a number 6 worked up on them. Fun

Now that is a joke. 

[Getafix 28392]

 

 

 

[The Dog 43771]

 

[Hookem2147 20910]

OL deep dig from UTSA (via Dunlap on OB)

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Skill Player Snap Counts and Game-by-Game Percentages of Offensive Snaps (Through Week 3)



***please note that exact snap-count numbers may differ from other sources at times, as the Deep Dig does not count plays as offensive player snaps that are blown dead due to penalty, punts, extra points, field goals, spiked balls, victory formations, kneel-downs, etc.***

Personnel-Grouping Frequency Overall and by Game (Through Week 3)



Tight End Total Snap Counts and Alignment Data (Through Week 3)



Team Target Share By Week (Through Week 3)




Deep Dig OL Grading Scale (each snap by each player is graded as its own independent event)


OL Grades (UTSA)

LT Kelvin Banks - 52 snaps
No disruption allowed
1 knockdown
DEEP DIG GRADE: 82.86

LG/C Hayden Conner - 36 snaps
1 pressure allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 79.16

C Jake Majors - 53 snaps
No disruption allowed
2 knockdowns
DEEP DIG GRADE: 79.77

RG DJ Campbell - 46 snaps
1 QB hit allowed
1 false start penalty
DEEP DIG GRADE: 79.13

RG/LG Cole Hutson - 36 snaps
1 QB hit allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 75.56

RT Cam Williams - 53 snaps
1 false start penalty
3 knockdowns
DEEP DIG GRADE: 80.77

Reserves

LT Trevor Goosby - 14 snaps
1 pressure allowed
1 false start penalty
DEEP DIG GRADE: N/A

RG Jaydon Chatman - 4 snaps
No disruption allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: N/A

C Conner Robertson - 13 snaps
No disruption allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: N/A

RG Neto Umeozulu - 13 snaps
1 run-stuff, 1 TFL allowed
1 unnecessary roughness penalty
DEEP DIG GRADE: N/A

RT Brandon Baker - 9 snaps
1 run-stuff, 1 TFL allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: N/A

RT Andre Cojoe - 4 snaps
No disruption allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: N/A


OL Grades by Week (Through Week 3)



OL Snaps-per-Disruption Allowed (Through Week 3)



OL Snaps-per-Disruption Allowed BY WEEK - CUMULATIVE Through Season (Through Week 3)



2024 OL Snaps-per-Disruption Allowed Versus Historical Precedent (Through Week 3)





QUICK FINAL THOUGHTS

- What an awesome play here by Juan Davis, helping in opening up a hole on the power/counter concept with a two-bagger block. You have to love his pad level and explosion to the target here. As good as JT Sanders was, this sort of presence as a blocker was never really in his tool bag like it is for Helm and Davis.

- For the first time this season, Cole Hutson came into the game as a rotational player at LG for Hayden Conner as opposed to at RG for DJ Campbell. After two series at LG, Hutson moved over to RG to sub in for Campbell for two series to end the half. In the second series of the second half, Hutson again entered the starting lineup at LG. Just something to note that it's not just Campbell that he's subbing in for through games anymore. Cole Hutson is by far the team's most important depth piece at the guard positions (and, really, center as well) because ...

- It's a good thing that we can trust in the development abilities of Kyle Flood (and we all certainly should by now), because as well as the Texas offensive line has played this year with its starters, we saw versus UTSA that there is a major downgrade to that group when the second unit is called upon. The twos only really played about 14 snaps (outside of Cole Hutson, who as mentioned, played at many points throughout the game).

During that short time, the difference couldn't have been more clear. Trevor Goosby had a penalty and allowed a QB pressure. Neto Umeozulu and Brandon Baker had a bad miscommunication that led to a run-stuff. On top of this, Umeozulu allowed another run stuff and committed a penalty of his own while Brandon Baker tacked on another allowed TFL. We know these guys are still developing, and in watching them, there are some things to like. And it's clearly not a worry for now because we're in the middle of a season where the offensive line looks like a legitimate Joe Moore Award favorite.

The problem with that kind of success and having guys play that well -- well, we saw it last year with Byron Murphy and T'Vondre Sweat. They leave a big void when they go and when they're playing well, it's a lot of attention on them and a lot of things pulling them in the direction to go pro, as will likely be the case with DJ Campbell and Cam Williams. We'd guess as of right now that fans are going to have to sweat an announcement about whether each one of them is staying or going immediately after the season. It would really be quite the luxury to get both of those players back next season -- heck, even one of them. But that's the weird paradigm of having the best OL play we've seen at Texas this season. If they keep playing this well, you might not have everyone for as long as you'd like. It's just the cost of doing business.

- Everyone is going to remember Arch Manning's big run in his second series for the rest of their lives but no one will remember Matthew Golden's blocking on the perimeter. He holds the corner a little bit, but he was smart in keeping his hands inside his chest because those sorts of holds rarely get called.

 

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 2855]

ULM coaches should probably just stfu before they get beat 77-0 instead of 52-10

Edited September 19 by Wilcox Cummingtonite

[Longboard Horn 40069]

This game should be fun(for everyone except General Booty and ULM lol). Arch is gonna ball out again and Trey Owens should put up some numbers. I like when we schedule the Warhawks because I used to live in Monroe and I have plenty of family there so ULM has some sentimental value to me. 

Still wish they used this logo instead 

However, they used to be called the Indians so the newer logo they've been using for a few years now is throwback and tribute 

[Longboard Horn 40069]

On 9/17/2024 at 4:35 AM, Leanderman said:

Who ever would have thought that our coaches would be telling players to "Chase Booty", all this week?

[texifornia 56434]

1 hour ago, Longboard Horn said:

This game should be fun(for everyone except General Booty and ULM lol). Arch is gonna ball out again and Trey Owens should put up some numbers. I like when we schedule the Warhawks because I used to live in Monroe and I have plenty of family there so ULM has some sentimental value to me. 

Still wish they used this logo instead 

However, they used to be called the Indians so the newer logo they've been using for a few years now is throwback and tribute 

I like their new retro logo, I think it's clean and unique. The top one looks like every other bland early 2000s logo, especially given that 95% of the "Indians" teams replaced their mascot with a bird so they'd still be able to use feather motifs.

I think everyone agrees that ULM's new P-40 inspired helmets are awesome.

[Longboard Horn 40069]

Those helmets are wild and I'm all for them!

[Frank Drebin 5625]

22 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Which is exactly why I changed my prediction from a 3rd quarter pic six to a punt return for TD. Also why I think we'll score less than 60. I anticipate a pretty humdrum game with Texas working Arch in passing early and converting to quick dumps, screens and runs late 3rd and 4th. Maybe test some trickeration plays to give future DCs more to digest.

I don't think we cover without special teams/defensive scores or short fields.  ULM is going to hand the ball off and bleed clock.

[Fondren & Main 6658]

Hard to bleed clock going 3 and out every drive.

[closetojumping 62132]

56 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

I don't think we cover without special teams/defensive scores or short fields.  ULM is going to hand the ball off and bleed clock.

I’ve felt like the spread was too much against CSU and UTSA. Whoops. How interested do we think Sarkisian is in covering? He’s not an idiot, but 45 points is just a lot. 

I agree with @Fondren & Main in that the clock can only be drained so much if Texas is forcing a bunch of 3 and outs. 

[Red Five 40593]

Pretty wild that 52-10 doesn't cover. I was confident in the UTSA line but I wouldn't touch this one.

[Fondren & Main 6658]

16 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I’ve felt like the spread was too much against CSU and UTSA. Whoops. How interested do we think Sarkisian is in covering? He’s not an idiot, but 45 points is just a lot. 

I agree with @Fondren & Main in that the clock can only be drained so much if Texas is forcing a bunch of 3 and outs. 

I got the sense that he wanted to be more cordial with the UTSA game and probably not grind their dicks in the dirt.  That went out the window after one of the roadrunners started talking shit.  He surely punished them and rained hellfire down on them immediately after that.

[Hagbard Celine 10734]

it's business

at a minimum, sark has to run the offense with 1s & 2s until/if we get a 4 score (33 point) lead in the 4th quarter

[nbmishoid 930]

21 hours ago, immamac said:

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