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Do they play at Denver the first week? 

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Future HOF Zach Edey fouls out in 14 minutes.

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Oh no, not Houston’s honor. Anything but that.

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It requires teamwork, effort and creativity to generate an uncontested layup or a wide-open J from the elbow.

Threes are easy by comparison. They are also more efficient (as long as you're converting them at a high-enough percentage). Plus, they generate long rebounds and force opponents to start defending at the logo, which opens up more of the floor.

It was inevitable the moment the 3-point shot became official. What's really shocking is that it took 45 years for the league to get to this point.

1 hour ago, Pam Cummings said:

This is why I'm saying that limiting the amount 3pt attempts each team can have in a game is the only way to "fix" this and get the game back to something more resembling real basketball and not a 3 point chucking contest.

Another idea: teams are allotted so many 3s per quarter. After that, they just count for 2.

From a spectator's perspective, basketball is best when there's movement, passing and teamwork. Hero/iso ball and endless 3-point chucking represent the antithesis of that.

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5 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

 

Another idea: teams are allotted so many 3s per quarter. After that, they just count for 2.

From a spectator's perspective, basketball is best when there's movement, passing and teamwork. Hero/iso ball and endless 3-point chucking represent the antithesis of that.

This could also work. I'm for anything that makes teams have to actually be strategic about who is shooting 3s and when they shoot them. I don't like everyone having the green light to do it.

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1 hour ago, Braff Zacklin said:

It requires teamwork, effort and creativity to generate an uncontested layup or a wide-open J from the elbow.

Threes are easy by comparison. They are also more efficient (as long as you're converting them at a high-enough percentage). Plus, they generate long rebounds and force opponents to start defending at the logo, which opens up more of the floor.

It was inevitable the moment the 3-point shot became official. What's really shocking is that it took 45 years for the league to get to this point.

Another idea: teams are allotted so many 3s per quarter. After that, they just count for 2.

From a spectator's perspective, basketball is best when there's movement, passing and teamwork. Hero/iso ball and endless 3-point chucking represent the antithesis of that.

I blame the shot clock. Most teams cross half court with 16-18 seconds left on the clock. There is little time to run an offense, breeds the chuck.  Drive and dish, P&R or dribble three. 

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Everyone tends to blame Steph/Golden State for the explosion, but they still move the ball (30+ assists per game), and their smart non-shooters use the shooters' gravity to cut teams to death. And, other than Steph's off-dribble attempts, most of their 3's you'd consider "good shots" league-wide. 

I blame the Houston D'Antoni/Harden experiment. Realizing that you don't even really need particularly good shooters or even great quality shots...eventually the quantity math wins out (until you miss 27 straight in Game 7 of the Western Conference Finals). So what's the point of motion and passing?

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15-0 Cavs @ the 11-3 Celtics tonight on TNT at 6pm CST. It's gonna be a big test for the Cavs, and it will likely determine who comes out of that division in the dumb Play-In Tournament. I don't know who made the play-in tournament brackets, but I think it's really dumb that they didn't keep it as the Divisions. 

 

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15-0 Cavs @ the 11-3 Celtics tonight on TNT at 6pm CST. It's gonna be a big test for the Cavs, and it will likely determine who comes out of that division in the dumb Play-In Tournament. I don't know who made the play-in tournament brackets, but I think it's really dumb that they didn't keep it as the Divisions. 
 

I think nba divisions are borderline pointless at this point outside of teams guaranteed 4 games with division opponents. OKC got a northwest division champion banner last year and I didn’t know they still gave them out lol
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4 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

15-0 Cavs @ the 11-3 Celtics tonight on TNT at 6pm CST. It's gonna be a big test for the Cavs, and it will likely determine who comes out of that division in the dumb Play-In Tournament. I don't know who made the play-in tournament brackets, but I think it's really dumb that they didn't keep it as the Divisions. 

 

Cavs are nervous and playing tight.

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9 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:


I think nba divisions are borderline pointless at this point outside of teams guaranteed 4 games with division opponents. OKC got a northwest division champion banner last year and I didn’t know they still gave them out lol

This is like the one single instance of NBA competition where using divisions would actually make sense, and they dropped the ball. I suspect it was a way for the NBA to create some "Group of Death" situations. 

7 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

Cavs are nervous and playing tight.

Celtics are shooting 50% from 3, while the Cavs are 0-6. It will even out soon. 

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1 minute ago, Message Board User said:

Not too discouraged - road game, Celtics shoot 54% from 3, no Levert/Okoro/Wade, Garland was awful...and the Celtics won by just 3.

Hopefully both are full strength in the playoffs. Add KP for Boston too.

Could be an epic ECF series 

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1 hour ago, Message Board User said:

Not too discouraged - road game, Celtics shoot 54% from 3, no Levert/Okoro/Wade, Garland was awful...and the Celtics won by just 3.

Exactly, it's just one of those games where they were abnormally hitting 3s at the highest clip possible for that volume. A couple more defenders for the Cavs and they probably disrupt things enough to swing it in their favor. A 7 game series between these two will be something to watch, but no shame in that loss. Boston played great and the Cavs kept it close in the 4th. Point differential loss of only 3, so if they win the next 2 NIST games by a bunch, they can get in as the 4th seed. 

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4 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

Dalton Knecht just had himself a game. Might come back on the floor, but he put up 37 on 9-11 from deep in a little over three quarters. Looks like the Lakers might finally have a consistent third scoring option.

Steal of the draft so far? 

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8 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

Dalton Knecht just had himself a game. Might come back on the floor, but he put up 37 on 9-11 from deep in a little over three quarters. Looks like the Lakers might finally have a consistent third scoring option.

Yeah, he's gonna be awesome as the centerpiece of the future Paul George trade!

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9 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

  Dalton Knecht just had himself a game. Might come back on the floor, but he put up 37 on 9-11 from deep in a little over three quarters. Looks like the Lakers might finally have a consistent third scoring option.

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2 hours ago, Kermit said:

I’m loving the Philly dumpster fire. They’re only four games back of the sixth seed. 

Philly Phailure might even eclipse aggy ineptitude in my schadenfreude rankings. 
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5 hours ago, Underdog said:

Steal of the draft so far? 

I'm a broken record at this point, but I really, really wish the Spurs had picked up him at No.8. They did well to snag Castle at No.4, and Knecht would've been the icing on the cake. He also would've filled a big need as a sniper. Instead, they took Dillingham and immediately traded him to the TWolves for picks.

Still can't believe Knecht fell all the way to No.17. I imagine many other teams are going to wish they'd picked him, too.

2 hours ago, Kermit said:

I’m loving the Philly dumpster fire. They’re only four games back of the sixth seed. 

Trust the process, bruh.

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29 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

 

I'm a broken record at this point, but I really, really wish the Spurs had picked up him at No.8. They did well to snag Castle at No.4, and Knecht would've been the icing on the cake. He also would've filled a big need as a sniper. Instead, they took Dillingham and immediately traded him to the TWolves for picks.

Still can't believe Knecht fell all the way to No.17. I imagine many other teams are going to wish they'd picked him, too.

Trust the process, bruh.

Same for the Rockets and Reed. He would be everything Jabari Smith is not. 

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10 hours ago, Underdog said:

Steal of the draft so far? 

So far the indications would point in that direction. It’s only 14 games in and just his fourth game since he was made a starter, but yes he looks like a guy that can give consistent point production. The only thing holding him back is himself. AD said they still have to convince him that he needs to shoot more often. 
 

Thanks to the Pelicans front office for the gift of letting us retain this pick.

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