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I dont know what it is about OKC.  im  not  sure if Imfeeling it. Obviously theyre missing Chet and a juggernaut regular season team. Theyre not going to lose to bottom feeder very often if ever.. And Shai is really good. JW is a great running mate to Shai. I just cant get over how many guys for them that are 6'6 and shorter playing forward/ power forwards, all to me share mostly the same skillset.  Watch Shai or JW create and shoot 3s.

 

once the bigger teams turn up defensive intensity for the playoffs are those smaller wings like Joe, Caruso, Wiggins, Wallace, Dort etc going to be able to hit their 3s every game to make up for their shortcomings? 

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also is anyone paying attention to this Charlotte Hornets story? they did some Christmas giveaway bit during a TV timeout the other night. The bit was to give a kid a PS5 and then life goes on. They took they PS5 away(not sure if it was in the box or whatever) and handed him a jersey instead and went on their way LOL

 

Some dude on X called them out saying his buddy & his nephew were the ones apart of this and all they got was some crappy jersey. well they got busted and are righting their wrong. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/hornets-apologize-after-pretending-to-give-child-ps5-and-taking-it-away-off-camera-230954440.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVkZGl0LmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHSCJJEprzsggDiJePSDR5AWSJDzU9bSICWsyaz0-XucF7Y2lNG26WXi8_4eMlNhwkbMXfvRDEybWfchn38N09CExBd8OfDDfEfiIVCbpElNiqzFt_KffSjbGM9vhvtdMydW4uEstH-1HnSe9X81OMYCWvRpE6JU6zUjt1dbaL-9

 

theyre only sorry they got caught tho.

 

heres the tweet 

https://x.com/StanUsmnt/status/1868854508102803654

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8 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

I dont know what it is about OKC.  im  not  sure if Imfeeling it. Obviously theyre missing Chet and a juggernaut regular season team. Theyre not going to lose to bottom feeder very often if ever.. And Shai is really good. JW is a great running mate to Shai. I just cant get over how many guys for them that are 6'6 and shorter playing forward/ power forwards, all to me share mostly the same skillset.  Watch Shai or JW create and shoot 3s.

 

once the bigger teams turn up defensive intensity for the playoffs are those smaller wings like Joe, Caruso, Wiggins, Wallace, Dort etc going to be able to hit their 3s every game to make up for their shortcomings? 

Yeah, I’m not seeing it.  They are also without Jaylin Williams, their other big. They will be better and bigger when both he and Holmgren get back. In general though they haven’t been shooting it from three as well as they did last year. And are still 20-5. I think they’re going to be okay. They are also still very young. That team is a motherfucker that is only going to get better. 

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1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Yeah, I’m not seeing it.  They are also without Jaylin Williams, their other big. They will be better and bigger when both he and Holmgren get back. In general though they haven’t been shooting it from three as well as they did last year. And are still 20-5. I think they’re going to be okay. They are also still very young. That team is a motherfucker that is only going to get better. 

 

10 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

I dont know what it is about OKC.  im  not  sure if Imfeeling it. Obviously theyre missing Chet and a juggernaut regular season team. Theyre not going to lose to bottom feeder very often if ever.. And Shai is really good. JW is a great running mate to Shai. I just cant get over how many guys for them that are 6'6 and shorter playing forward/ power forwards, all to me share mostly the same skillset.  Watch Shai or JW create and shoot 3s.

 

once the bigger teams turn up defensive intensity for the playoffs are those smaller wings like Joe, Caruso, Wiggins, Wallace, Dort etc going to be able to hit their 3s every game to make up for their shortcomings? 

To Mitch's point, they're without the other Jaylin Williams and Chet.  That's a solid three man big rotation when healthy.  Adding Hartenstein was a huge score for them but he just got back.  They played the Mavericks (a legitimately big team) earlier this season with no one in the lineup over 6'6".  They almost pulled it off when Luka wasn't playing so there's that.

Still, they're not a great shooting team to your point.  Shai isn't even a great shooter.  Great scorer, yes.  The only top level shooters on that roster are maybe Chet and Joe.  The interchangeable wings works well on defense, though.  They're all long and athletic and can switch off on most everyone.  Might be low on rebounding but they create a lot of turnovers.

Last night they just couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat.  I've never seen them shoot that bad.  Maybe it was a big stage getting to them.   

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10 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

I dont know what it is about OKC.  im  not  sure if Imfeeling it. Obviously theyre missing Chet and a juggernaut regular season team. Theyre not going to lose to bottom feeder very often if ever.. And Shai is really good. JW is a great running mate to Shai. I just cant get over how many guys for them that are 6'6 and shorter playing forward/ power forwards, all to me share mostly the same skillset.  Watch Shai or JW create and shoot 3s.

 

once the bigger teams turn up defensive intensity for the playoffs are those smaller wings like Joe, Caruso, Wiggins, Wallace, Dort etc going to be able to hit their 3s every game to make up for their shortcomings? 

When they hit the playoffs their offense is going to be generated by their defense.  They're gonna win it all.

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20 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

also is anyone paying attention to this Charlotte Hornets story? they did some Christmas giveaway bit during a TV timeout the other night. The bit was to give a kid a PS5 and then life goes on. They took they PS5 away(not sure if it was in the box or whatever) and handed him a jersey instead and went on their way LOL

 

Some dude on X called them out saying his buddy & his nephew were the ones apart of this and all they got was some crappy jersey. well they got busted and are righting their wrong. 

https://sports.yahoo.com/hornets-apologize-after-pretending-to-give-child-ps5-and-taking-it-away-off-camera-230954440.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVkZGl0LmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHSCJJEprzsggDiJePSDR5AWSJDzU9bSICWsyaz0-XucF7Y2lNG26WXi8_4eMlNhwkbMXfvRDEybWfchn38N09CExBd8OfDDfEfiIVCbpElNiqzFt_KffSjbGM9vhvtdMydW4uEstH-1HnSe9X81OMYCWvRpE6JU6zUjt1dbaL-9

 

theyre only sorry they got caught tho.

 

heres the tweet 

https://x.com/StanUsmnt/status/1868854508102803654

WTF?

Someone has to be fired. 

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I apparently missed the memo on the new Allstar game format, not that I really care about that game, but I do prefer the traditional East/West game like it was when I was a kid.  I predict this mini-tournament is going to be really dumb. 

 

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The NBA All-Star Game's new format has been greeted with skepticism from some of the league's biggest stars -- most notably Kevin Durant. "I hate it; I absolutely hate it," Durant said Tuesday, minutes after the league announced the changes to its midseason showcase.

This season's format is a four-team, three-game, one-night tournament that will feature three teams of eight All-Stars each, with the fourth team being the winner of the Rising Stars challenge for first- and second-year players. The winning team in all games will be the first to score 40 points.

The All-Star Game will take place Feb. 16 at the home of the Golden State Warriors. The Rising Stars event is there Feb. 14, headlining All-Star Friday. "Terrible -- All-Star Game format changing, all the formats -- terrible in my opinion," Durant said. "We should just go back to East-West. Just play a game."

NBA commissioner Adam Silver has wanted a more competitive All-Star event for some time, and this change comes after the teams combined to score a record 397 points -- 211-186 was the final -- in last season's game at Indianapolis. The teams combined to take 289 shots in that game, 94% of those being either inside the paint or beyond the 3-point line. 

"I think we've been trying to bring that flare back somehow with All-Star Weekend, I think we just keep the tradition," Durant said. "We'll see how this one works. You never know, I might be wrong, I'm just another guy with an opinion, but we'll see how it works."

Oklahoma City Thunder guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander offered a more optimistic take Tuesday, acknowledging the "elephant in the room" of player effort during the All-Star Game.

"At the end of the day, it's going to come down to whether the players want to go at it, and I would love to see that," he said. "Love to be a part of that, for sure, and hopefully it happens."

Memphis Grizzlies star Ja Morant, however, seemed to agree with Durant when asked Wednesday about the new format.  "Same thing KD said," Morant said.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/43046474/kevin-durant-rips-new-nba-all-star-game-format-hate-it

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5 hours ago, Hernandez said:

the new format is insanely stupid, and KD has already railed against it publicly. 

It might help the NBA if the biggest stars and commentators weren't constantly shitting all over the product. I can't imagine David Stern ever thinking this is OK. Maybe it will be dumb, we haven't seen it yet, but i do know that the current game sucks. From what i understand this is an idea they lifted from hockey.

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Yeah, I mean this with all due respect, shit the fuck up, KD. You, LeBron, and Steph are as guilty as anyone for why the game became what it is and why wacky experiments are now necessary.

No one expects May defensive intensity, but is semi-pro pickup game in LA in August effort too much to ask?

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15 hours ago, Herpa Derpa said:

Scrap the ASG. Move the NBA Cup final to that point in the season and have a full weekend of festivities with 3 point and dunk contests the prior night.

You can fête the all-stars with a halftime ceremony.

And give the cup winner an additional lottery pick or something.

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8 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

And give the cup winner an additional lottery pick or something.

While it may generate some mild fan interest--mostly from people who already closely follow the NBA--asking players to win so we can potentially draft your replacement is weird.

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1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

While it may generate some mild fan interest--mostly from people who already closely follow the NBA--asking players to win so we can potentially draft your replacement is weird.

Tie it to the luxury tax. Winner not subject to first apron restrictions the next year or something like that.

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4 hours ago, Herpa Derpa said:

Tie it to the luxury tax. Winner not subject to first apron restrictions the next year or something like that.

Even better get rid of aprons, get rid of trade restrictions, make a solid hard cap number. Allow trades that don't match salary at all,like Giannis for Wemby. Let teams determine the value of players rather than their contract terms. The league would be a lot better off, as teams could build or  reset faster.

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1 hour ago, PittsburghTiger said:

That’s pretty fucking ridiculous. The ref should be sent to the G-League for a couple weeks. The league should be able to, in real time, reverse that technical.

They will rescind it but the league should fine that ref. For being a huge baby 

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I feel like we haven't made fun of the Pelicans enough.

At the time of the AD trade, what they got was unprecedented and here's what they got:

  • Brandon Ingram (FA in 2025 and has missed 20-40 games each year in NOLA)
  • Lonzo Ball (shipped to Chicago for spare parts)
  • Josh Hart (shipped to Portland along with a 2022 protected first for CJ and Nance Jr)
  • Three firsts (they used those picks or assets from those picks on Jaxson Hayes, NAW, Herb Jones, and Dyson Daniels - Daniels is the best of those players and they shipped him and other assets to ATL for Dejounte Murray)
  • Lakers 2025 first (they chose NOT to use the Lakers pick in 2024, electing to move to 2025, and the Lakers selected Dalton Knecht - oops)

So we're about the end of all this and the Pelicans are currently 5-25 and are just about bereft of any young talent.

Oh yeah and then there's this guy.

 

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41 minutes ago, d2o said:

Embiid's bitch ass hurt himself in warmups shooting a 30 ft fadeaway and stepping on the foot of a security guard that was on the side of the court. LOL

SAS: I worry about this brotha walking to the restroom 

season 3 GIF

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On 12/23/2024 at 4:48 PM, Message Board User said:

I feel like we haven't made fun of the Pelicans enough.

At the time of the AD trade, what they got was unprecedented and here's what they got:

  • Brandon Ingram (FA in 2025 and has missed 20-40 games each year in NOLA)
  • Lonzo Ball (shipped to Chicago for spare parts)
  • Josh Hart (shipped to Portland along with a 2022 protected first for CJ and Nance Jr)
  • Three firsts (they used those picks or assets from those picks on Jaxson Hayes, NAW, Herb Jones, and Dyson Daniels - Daniels is the best of those players and they shipped him and other assets to ATL for Dejounte Murray)
  • Lakers 2025 first (they chose NOT to use the Lakers pick in 2024, electing to move to 2025, and the Lakers selected Dalton Knecht - oops)

So we're about the end of all this and the Pelicans are currently 5-25 and are just about bereft of any young talent.

Oh yeah and then there's this guy.

 

I didn't realize they had fallen so far off a  cliff but wow.  You're right, though.  They had Zion (sometimes) and Brandon Ingram and a bunch of draft picks.  They were long and athletic and a good on defense.  They were in the playoffs just last year.  Dort basically ruined BI's trade value there, too.  They obviously need to move off Zion but good luck finding a taker.  Hard to believe he's only 24.  

 

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Another 10% of the season has gone by (After ~30 games things are becoming a bit clearer).

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The Thunder go to #1 (yeah, yeah - they lost in the NBA Cup final, but they have basically won every other game this period).  They are currently on a 9 game streak and now #1 in the NBA in defense. The Celtics lose the top spot with a very chaotic period.  They can't seem to get their lineups straight and have a few players slumping (including 6th man candidate Payton Pritchard).

The Bucks rise up the charts, partially because of their showing in the NBA Cup, but they have been really consistent over the past 15 or so games.  The Mavs fall a bit, playing .500 ball in their last 6 and now having no Luka for the next ~month.  I said the Lakers were probably out of the rankings for good, but they pop back in, despite a -2.5 points per game average.  I gave them the nod over mids like the Spurs, Suns, Clips, Wolves because of their 14-7 record against the West, which is the 2nd best in the conference.

On the player side...

Jokic retains the top spot (big surprise), but Giannis is charging.  Giannis took over the top spot in PER while carrying the Bucks to the NBA Cup title.  Towns is steadily climbing the list, moving to #6 on the strength of consistent scoring, efficient shooting and leading the league in rebounding. He is also in the top 5 of Win Shares.  

Wemby really showed out on Christmas, but he has been playing great over the last 20 games.  His VORP and PER ratings have been on the steady increase into the top 10. AD has been mostly "there", 12th in scoring, 7th in rebounding but no longer playing at MVP level over the past 20 games like he did in the first 10.

I really want to move Edwards out the top 10 as he is falling across every statistical measure, but he is still the focus of the Wolves offense and he was kind of screwed by the KAT trade.  The next guy up is Sengun, with Curry also lurking.

Luka will unfortunately fall out of the next ranking. Hopefully he can return by the trade deadline.

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