24/25 Astros Offseason thread

[David Dennison 19571]

Wait. Do Astros fans think Gerrit Cole was ever going to stay?

[Scraps 13813]

Walker wearing #13

Bust out those Tyler White jerseys

Plz do not play like him.

[Dnaguy 12724]

Can you get a Verdugo @ $5-6M or so and is it worth it for the Astros?

That puts us barely at the luxury xry tax line no?

Edited Monday at 09:56 PM by Dnaguy

[LCHorn 2751]

10 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Can you get a Verdugo @ $5-6M or so and is it worth it for the Astros?

That puts us barely at the luxury xry tax line no?

I don’t think I want Verdugo at the major league minimum.  Pretty much every teammate he’s played with has leaked to the press that he’s lazy and bad in the clubhouse.  

[tx 3 putt 78789]

 

[WBT 21001]

1 hour ago, Scraps said:

Walker wearing #13

Bust out those Tyler White jerseys

Plz do not play like him.

That's Great White to you

[Scraps 13813]

Can you get a Verdugo @ $5-6M or so and is it worth it for the Astros?
That puts us barely at the luxury xry tax line no?

I would rather see if Chas can pull his head out of his ass the first couple months than sign Verdugo

[Snake Diggity 4722]

5 hours ago, LCHorn said:

I don’t think I want Verdugo at the major league minimum.  Pretty much every teammate he’s played with has leaked to the press that he’s lazy and bad in the clubhouse.  

Interesting that both decent LHH OF left on the free agent market have attitude problems (Verdugo and Winker).

Heyward wouldn’t be a terrible add, especially if Houston thinks Dezenzo and/or Melton will be ready early in the season.

Ideal semi-realistic add right now is Brandon Lowe or Wilyer Abreu.  Seth Brown would be somebody nobody is talking about who Houston might target.

Edited Tuesday at 03:19 AM by Snake Diggity

[Dutchrudder 11249]

4 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

Really? I thought Singleton would be gone first, since Grae is a good defensive guy. He's great for relieving Altuve, whose defense is slowly degrading. I hope it's much further down the timeline, but at some point we may have an issue of needing the DH spot for Altuve and Yordan at the same time. 

[Snake Diggity 4722]

24 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Really? I thought Singleton would be gone first, since Grae is a good defensive guy. He's great for relieving Altuve, whose defense is slowly degrading. I hope it's much further down the timeline, but at some point we may have an issue of needing the DH spot for Altuve and Yordan at the same time. 

I was really surprised they kept Cooper Hummel over Kessinger.

[Dutchrudder 11249]

24 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

I was really surprised they kept Cooper Hummel over Kessinger.

I mean, I thought Singleton wouldn't make the 40 because you now have Walker/Caratini/Diaz for depth there. They don't really need him, and I'm not even sure how they get all their best bats in the lineup right now. What's the best batting order now? Something like this? This would be 7 guys with over a .700 OPS in the lineup. If they can get another OF worth a shit at the plate, it would be close to Death Star Lineup levels. 

1. Altuve 2b
2. Paredes 3b
3. Yordan LF/DH
4. Walker 1b
5. Diaz C
6. Pena SS
7. Caratini DH
8. Chas RF
9. Meyers CF

Dubon to fill in. 

[David Dennison 19571]

We have to get another OF.

[WBT 21001]

23 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

If they can get another OF worth a shit at the plate, it would be close to Death Star Lineup levels. 

Say what now?

[tx 3 putt 78789]

1 hour ago, Dutchrudder said:

it would be close to Death Star Lineup levels. 

[runthebone 8380]

Singleton must be a key component of some huge upcoming trade.

[Dnaguy 12724]

4 hours ago, runthebone said:

Singleton must be a key component of some huge upcoming trade.

[WBT 21001]

12 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

Really? I thought Singleton would be gone first

I've become convinced we'll be giving Singleton huge ph ABs in the playoffs until 2035.  

[Dnaguy 12724]

11 hours ago, David Dennison said:

We have to get another OF.

We got Walker from AZ. Why not Grichuk? His best days are behind him… and he’s 33 but maybe see if he’d do a 2 year deal at $6-7M total. 
Doesn’t solve our heavy right handed line up problem, though.

Peralta? Platoon with Chaz in right. 

Dang I wish we weren’t so damn boxed in by that dogshit Abreau contract. Yikes.

[Dutchrudder 11249]

11 hours ago, WBT said:

Say what now?

It's not the 2019 lineup, but the best 2023 lineup included Abreu when he was hitting like .230 and Meyers who is still there for defense. Aside from still needing a replacement for Tucker, they are pretty close to that when Yordan plays LF. Walker is a clear upgrade at 1b.

Still need to get a decent OF bat to platoon and they will be pretty damn good next year. 90+ wins and another division title is quite possible. If Crane was willing to spend money like Steinbrenner, who is also worth about 3 billion, they would go get Santander on a 3/70 deal and add a couple pitchers to really round out the lineup. 

[Dnaguy 12724]

14 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

It's not the 2019 lineup, but the best 2023 lineup included Abreu when he was hitting like .230 and Meyers who is still there for defense. Aside from still needing a replacement for Tucker, they are pretty close to that when Yordan plays LF. Walker is a clear upgrade at 1b.

Still need to get a decent OF bat to platoon and they will be pretty damn good next year. 90+ wins and another division title is quite possible. If Crane was willing to spend money like Steinbrenner, who is also worth about 3 billion, they would go get Santander on a 3/70 deal and add a couple pitchers to really round out the lineup. 

Ain’t happening.

But would be cool.

We’re going to sign a LH outfielder for 3 millish as a stop gap until next year to stay under the salary cap. 
With close to $33M coming available next year I could see a bigger splash signing.

I hear that Tucker kid on the cubs is pretty good. Maybe we go after him.

 

[Snake Diggity 4722]

18 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

I mean, I thought Singleton wouldn't make the 40 because you now have Walker/Caratini/Diaz for depth there. They don't really need him, and I'm not even sure how they get all their best bats in the lineup right now. What's the best batting order now? Something like this? This would be 7 guys with over a .700 OPS in the lineup. If they can get another OF worth a shit at the plate, it would be close to Death Star Lineup levels. 

1. Altuve 2b
2. Paredes 3b
3. Yordan LF/DH
4. Walker 1b
5. Diaz C
6. Pena SS
7. Caratini DH
8. Chas RF
9. Meyers CF

Dubon to fill in. 

Singleton still has real value as the 13th position player whose primary role is pinch hitting for a player who hits poorly against RHP in key situations (of course he can also backup DH and 1B).  As it stands, Pena and at least one OF project to struggle against RHP; having Singleton available to pinch hit for those guys if they come up against a RHP at a critical point in the game is as good of a use of the 13th spot as any.  13th men usually get <200 pa in a season, whether as a 3rd catcher, 5th OF, 6th IF, pinch runner, or bench bat.

[UTPhil2006 3930]

Singleton is as valuable as one Schrute buck

[Snake Diggity 4722]

If Houston adds one OF who hits RHP well, here’s how their lineups project:

 

Vs RHP:

2B Altuve wRC+ 123

3B Paredes 110

DH Alvarez 167

C Diaz 127 

1B Walker 112

OF TBD 110+

CF McCormick 96

OF Dezenzo/Trammell/etc. TBD

SS Pena 88 

Singleton is a good hitter against RHP and could PH for Dezenzo or Pena if they came up against a righty at a critical moment.  Dezenzo and Melton both have potential to be plus plus against RHP so there’s upside there.
 

Vs LHP:

2B Altuve 149

SS Pena 132

DH Alvarez 166

3B Paredes 136

RF McCormick 142

1B Walker 112

C Diaz 103

CF Meyers 114

LF Dubon 111

That could be the best lineup in the league against LHP.

[HtownHorn 15235]

Would love to try to trade for Mullins and platoon him with Chas in CF, then sign a  couple of cheap vets like Heyward and Laureano to platoon in RF. Then just give the everyday LF job to Denzenzo.

Altuve, Paredes, Alvarez, Walker, Diaz, Mullins, Pena, Heyward, Denzeno.

Altuve, Paredes, Alvarez, Walker, Diaz, McCormick, Pena, Laureano, Denzeno

Bench - Caratini, Dubon, McCormick, Laureano.

[UTPhil2006 3930]

The OF is gonna get us 2 and Q'd again isn't it 

[Dnaguy 12724]

5 hours ago, UTPhil2006 said:

The OF is gonna get us 2 and Q'd again isn't it