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9 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

I see like 10 guys WD, is that because they didn't want to come back today only to miss the cut?

 

probably a combination of that and the fact that the Genesis Invitational will be at Torrey Pines in 3 weeks. they'll get another shot at Torrey Pines under presumably better conditions.

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genesis is also a signature event so more money and points that week.

scottie and jordan both playing at pebble next week.

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On 1/24/2025 at 1:39 PM, 4th&Five said:

genesis is also a signature event so more money and points that week.

scottie and jordan both playing at pebble next week.

Would love to see Jordan get off the snide at Pebble. Has he fired McCormack yet, Should of done so years ago if he hasn't.

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Everything I’ve read on Spieth is that surgery was successful. I have not seen anything about him firing McCormack’s ass. 

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"Pace of Play" rules need major overhaul

Dottie Pepper explains pace of play complaint: 'Been gnawing at me'

ESPN News Services

Jan 28, 2025, 10:45 AM ET

Dottie Pepper said the slow pace of play in golf has "been gnawing at me for a while," and added that she hopes her on-air complaint last weekend serves as a springboard for serious change.

Pace of play once again became a hot topic last Saturday during the final round of the Farmers Insurance Open at Torrey Pines, where Pepper was CBS Sports' on-course analyst walking with the final group.

Pepper told The Associated Press that she was notified via text message by CBS Sports colleague Frank Nobilo that the final group made the turn in nearly three hours, prompting her message that has since gone viral.

"You know, Frank," Pepper said during the broadcast. "I think we're starting to need a new word to talk about this pace-of-play issue, and it's 'respect' -- for your fellow competitors, for the fans, for broadcasts, for all of it. It's just got to get better."

Dottie Pepper says golf "has a little bigger profile than it did before," and stressed that pace of play needs to quicken, adding"let's not mess it up." Matthew Maxey/Icon Sportswire

Pepper clarified her remarks Sunday during an interview with the AP, saying that she was not directing her comments specifically at the final group.

"It's been gnawing at me and a lot of people for a while," Pepper said. "It was not a comment targeted at the final group of a PGA Tour event that CBS was carrying. It was at the general state of the game, down to club play -- private or municipal -- junior golf, amateur golf, collegiate golf.

"It's taking away from the opportunity we have for this game. It's on fire post-COVID, and it's our darn fault if we don't do better."

Saturday's final group included tournament winner Harris English, Aldrich Potgieter and Andrew Novak, who gave the viewing public a good look at his no-nonsense pace.

But the final round at Torrey Pines took 5 hours, 29 minutes, which was a 10-minute improvement from the previous week at the American Express.

The USGA has a recommendation -- not a rule -- on how long it should take to play a shot: 40 seconds, with an extra 10 seconds if a player is first to hit that shot. It's a policy on the PGA Tour, which has plans for a working group of players to study pace of play.

The text from Nobilo apparently struck a chord with Pepper, whose role in golf goes beyond her 17 LPGA victories and two majors, her Solheim Cup legacy and her two decades in broadcasting. She also spent three years on the PGA of America board of directors.

"I love the game too much," she said. "Let's take advantage of the heat we have. People are more engaged than they've been in a long time. We have TGL. We have influencers. Golf has a little bigger profile than it did before. Let's not mess it up."

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49 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

"Pace of Play" rules need major overhaul

Dottie Pepper explains pace of play complaint: 'Been gnawing at me'

ESPN News Services

Jan 28, 2025, 10:45 AM ET

Dottie Pepper said the slow pace of play in golf has "been gnawing at me for a while," and added that she hopes her on-air complaint last weekend serves as a springboard for serious change.

Pace of play once again became a hot topic last Saturday during the final round of the Farmers Insurance Open at Torrey Pines, where Pepper was CBS Sports' on-course analyst walking with the final group.

Pepper told The Associated Press that she was notified via text message by CBS Sports colleague Frank Nobilo that the final group made the turn in nearly three hours, prompting her message that has since gone viral.

"You know, Frank," Pepper said during the broadcast. "I think we're starting to need a new word to talk about this pace-of-play issue, and it's 'respect' -- for your fellow competitors, for the fans, for broadcasts, for all of it. It's just got to get better."

Dottie Pepper says golf "has a little bigger profile than it did before," and stressed that pace of play needs to quicken, adding"let's not mess it up." Matthew Maxey/Icon Sportswire

Pepper clarified her remarks Sunday during an interview with the AP, saying that she was not directing her comments specifically at the final group.

"It's been gnawing at me and a lot of people for a while," Pepper said. "It was not a comment targeted at the final group of a PGA Tour event that CBS was carrying. It was at the general state of the game, down to club play -- private or municipal -- junior golf, amateur golf, collegiate golf.

"It's taking away from the opportunity we have for this game. It's on fire post-COVID, and it's our darn fault if we don't do better."

Saturday's final group included tournament winner Harris English, Aldrich Potgieter and Andrew Novak, who gave the viewing public a good look at his no-nonsense pace.

But the final round at Torrey Pines took 5 hours, 29 minutes, which was a 10-minute improvement from the previous week at the American Express.

The USGA has a recommendation -- not a rule -- on how long it should take to play a shot: 40 seconds, with an extra 10 seconds if a player is first to hit that shot. It's a policy on the PGA Tour, which has plans for a working group of players to study pace of play.

The text from Nobilo apparently struck a chord with Pepper, whose role in golf goes beyond her 17 LPGA victories and two majors, her Solheim Cup legacy and her two decades in broadcasting. She also spent three years on the PGA of America board of directors.

"I love the game too much," she said. "Let's take advantage of the heat we have. People are more engaged than they've been in a long time. We have TGL. We have influencers. Golf has a little bigger profile than it did before. Let's not mess it up."

Only time I ever enjoyed watching women's golf was back when Dottie would scream and holler at her caddy who I believe was her husband. 

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From what I saw, the final group was often waiting on the group in front of them. Not sure who it was ahead of them causing the slow play. I think the final group waited on the tee for 14 minutes or so on 16 or 17 (can’t remember which).

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It’s a pretty easy fix. Put the offending player/group on the clock, and then if they fuck it up again, penalize them a stroke. If they actually start docking these dudes strokes, I bet pace of play magically improves. 

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Looks like the 2025 PGA Tour is going to be exciting with some changes and fresh faces. The new format could shake things up, especially with how the majors are being handled.

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18 hours ago, Steel Shank said:

From what I saw, the final group was often waiting on the group in front of them. Not sure who it was ahead of them causing the slow play. I think the final group waited on the tee for 14 minutes or so on 16 or 17 (can’t remember which).

they definitely waited forever on #3, the short par 3. the group in front was all over the fucking place on that hole (Dahmen was in that group).

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4 hours ago, charlesfoote said:

Looks like the 2025 PGA Tour is going to be exciting with some changes and fresh faces. The new format could shake things up, especially with how the majors are being handled.

What are they doing to the majors?  I saw a discussion about a bracket for the Tour Championship but I missed changes to the majors.

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2 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

I wouldn't expect pace if play to improve this week with ams out there. It's always slow.

Ams only play in round 1 & 2, weekend could play faster (except Cantley is in the field)

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On 1/30/2025 at 12:36 AM, orange dream said:

What are they doing to the majors?  I saw a discussion about a bracket for the Tour Championship but I missed changes to the majors.

From what I’ve gathered, there’s been a lot of talk about restructuring the way players qualify for the events and tweaking the overall format. It seems like the biggest shift will be towards making the majors a bit more exclusive and elevating their prestige.

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For any who are considering a trip to watch/play golf , an off beat suggestion is the 2025 Walker Cup. It will take place September 6,7 and will be played at Cypress Point. 

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4 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Can this Rory show up in a major, please?

He does that plenty for the first 63 holes.

 

Aaaaand Lowry just killed a guy. 

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Big Day fan but that bullshit shouldn't be allowed. 

And I'll give an update as he climbs - 27 gets Rory into solo 21st. 

17 guys have 30.

9 guys have 40. 

I think he gets to 40. He takes care of himself, that's just 2 wins a year for 7 more years. Very doable. 

The big question is if he can complete the career slam and/or win more majors. 

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Waste Management is up and running on ESPN+.  Jordan just teed off on 10 to start his round.  the course looks pristine with that early morning dew and the sun reflecting off the greens.

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11 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

Tom Kim needs to be put on the clock the second he hits his opening tee-shot.  dude was slow as molasses at Pebble.  he caught a lot shit during the broadcast and on social media.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tom-kim-slow-play-flamed-twitter-broadcast-golf-channel

 

what annoys me is the networks know who the slowest assholes are out there so don't show them live.  we don't need to see 2 minutes of a guy lining up a shot.

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what annoys me is the networks know who the slowest assholes are out there so don't show them live.  we don't need to see 2 minutes of a guy lining up a shot.

It got annoying watching Kim stand over a ball for 45 seconds on every shot. I don’t know how he does it, I’d totally fuck up my shot if I did what he does. It was interesting to watch once or twice
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Sitting here at the office at the house today. Have Phoenix going on one screen. Decided to put LIV on the TV. It’s on FS2. I’ve never watched a second of LIV since it’s inception. It is… interesting. They’re in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. And they’re playing live right now, at night there. Course is completely lit up. Odd to hear music from somewhere playing on the course while they’re playing. And the crowd is, well, let’s just say it’s sparse. Good golf being played though. 

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1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

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Had to have lost a bet. I had that belt that came in a set with slacks and a shirt from jc penny in 1988

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