Game Week Thread Game week thread, Week 6, Red River Shootout

[South Austin 52204]

3 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I dunno about that. That pass was a simple screen to a WR, who then blew past two Sooners who played it about as poorly as they could have. I still have PTSD from Greg Davis starting out the game with three of those that blew up directly in his face.

Sure, a simple screen, but that was a WR who turned out to be a badass for Texas, and with Mack at the helm he would've sat on the bench that game.  This is the point, dude.

[South Austin 52204]

4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Remember how good Cedric Benson was as a freshman? He'd probably be starting on this 2024 team right now. 0 carries in a game in which we scored 3 points. 

Not giving Benson a snap in that 2001 game really ranks up there as one of the all time Mack Brown crimes.  

[Mitch Cumsteen 18526]

2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Sure, a simple screen, but that was a WR who turned out to be a badass for Texas, and with Mack at the helm he would've sat on the bench that game.  This is the point, dude.

Gotcha. I thought you were talking about aggressive play calling vs. starting a freshman. Point well taken.

Regardless, we can all agree that Mack Brown was a huge gaping vagina every second Saturday in October.

[Tex Pete 20246]

8 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I dunno about that. That pass was a simple screen to a WR, who then blew past two Sooners who played it about as poorly as they could have. I still have PTSD from Greg Davis starting out the game with three of those that blew up directly in his face.

Seemed like we always went 3 and out on our first possession. It would be 4th and 12 from our own 17 after GD's dumbass playcalls. And as mentioned above, it would be 21-0 before we even got going at all.

[Red Five 40703]

6 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Not giving Benson a snap in that 2001 game really ranks up there as one of the all time Mack Brown crimes.  

Offense was dead all day. Just nothing. Not even as a potential spark to get something going in the second half. "Quiet down Cedric, I'm trying to think of any way possible to generate some offense...."

[South Austin 52204]

1 minute ago, Red Five said:

Offense was dead all day. Just nothing. Not even as a potential spark to get something going in the second half. "Quiet down Cedric, I'm trying to think of any way possible to generate some offense...."

Even more impressive that Benson chose to play all four years for that pussy.

[Jkwellborn 6670]

Does anything think Texas wins if true freshman Cedric starts and plays the whole game?

[Hookem10 657]

1 minute ago, South Austin said:

Even more impressive that Benson chose to play all four years for that pussy.

The nil generation has shown that players might not be to attached to the coaches as much as money opportunities. But back then with no transfer portal you pretty much needed to somewhat like your coaches in the recruiting process. 100 dollar handshakes always worked also. I’m sure Ced somewhat liked his head coach may he RIP. 

[Skipper 6107]

1 hour ago, Valmy77 said:

Offensive line played shitty. But the defense got five turnovers. So we won.

Yeah, that game kind of started our long national nightmare of shit OL play that lasted until the Sark era.  We just didn't quite know it yet as Colt was able to mask it that season outside of that game and the Neb Big 12 Championship game where Suh just toyed with our interior line.

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

13 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

The nil generation has shown that players might not be to attached to the coaches as much as money opportunities. But back then with no transfer portal you pretty much needed to somewhat like your coaches in the recruiting process. 100 dollar handshakes always worked also. I’m sure Ced somewhat liked his head coach may he RIP. 

Depends on how you determine your targets and offers, it seems to me. I’m not going to claim NIL isn’t a big factor, but if your goal is the NFL and you’re not fairly interested in playing for Sarkisian and and in his offense, well, best of luck in your NIL pursuits elsewhere, I suppose. 

[Tex Long 4356]

1 hour ago, Dewey said:

... Mack wanted everyone to get along and have fun. ...

Mack wants everyone, and especially his Mom and Dad, to love him - but his brother Watson got it all. Watson even QB'ed Vandy to a win over 'Bama. 

[6th Street 6357]

OU knew all of our plays in the Mack era. Every time the ball was snapped it was like in Tecmo Super Bowl where you called the right play on defense. 

 

 

[South Austin 52204]

40 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

Does anything think Texas wins if true freshman Cedric starts and plays the whole game?

Who knows, but I'm pretty sure Texas rushes for more than 27 yards in that game.

[closetojumping 62287]

20 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

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Oklahoma is fresh off its first off week of the season, and now it's time for the biggest game to date.

That's right. It's Red River Rivalry week, as Oklahoma (4-1, 1-1 SEC) and Texas (5-0, 1-0) are set to square off in the Cotton Bowl for their annual rivalry game. Both teams are coming off a bye week, so the Sooners and Longhorns will both have had an extra week to recover, regroup and plan for Saturday's showdown in Dallas, which is set for a 2:30 p.m. start on ABC.

Oklahoma heads into the game with its best defense in years but an offense that ranks toward the bottom of the SEC and in the bottom tier of FBS teams in several statistical categories. The Sooners hope the offense can start trending in the right direction coming out of the bye, as Michael Hawkins Jr. settles in as the team's starting quarterback after a promising first start at Auburn a week ago and a tenacious second-half showing against Tennessee's defense in the SEC opener.

 

The Sooners will need to get their offense up to par heading into the teeth of their SEC slate, which begins with Saturday's matchup against the Longhorns. In this week's edition of Statistically Speaking, we check in on how Oklahoma stacks up in the SEC and nationally in various statistical categories coming off the bye week…

 
STATISTICALLY SPEAKING

RUSHING OFFENSE (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 219.4 yards per game (1st in Big 12, 10th)

2023: 182.2 (7th in Big 12, 34th)

After Temple: 220.0 (5th, 38th)

After Houston: 147.5 (12th, 79th)

After Tulane: 159.0 (11th, 67th)

After Tennessee: 128.3 (15th, 101st)

After Auburn: 128.6 (16th, 103rd)

After 1st bye: 128.6 (16th, 100th)

PASSING OFFENSE (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 254.6 yards per game (5th in Big 12, 41st)

2023: 324.8 (1st in Big 12, 6th)

After Temple: 158.0 (13th, 106th)

After Houston: 166.0 (12th, 109th)

After Tulane: 166.3 (13th, 114th)

After Tennessee: 171.3 (14th, 111th)

After Auburn: 169.2 (15th, 114th)

After 1st bye: 169.2 (16th, 118th)

PASSING EFFICIENCY OFFENSE (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 147.95 (3rd in Big 12, 30th)

2023: 167.53 (1st in Big 12, 6th)

After Temple: 156.8 (11th, 58th)

After Houston: 137.19 (12th, 72nd)

After Tulane: 129.69 (13th, 90th)

After Tennessee: 122.35 (15th, 103rd)

After Auburn: 126.05 (15th, 96th)

After 1st bye: 126.05 (15th, 100th)
 

TOTAL OFFENSE (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 474.0 yards per game (1st in Big 12, 13th)

2023: 507.0 (1st in Big 12, 3rd)

After Temple: 378.0 (11th, 82nd)

After Houston: 313.5 (14th, 108th)

After Tulane: 325.3 (14th, 108th)

After Tennessee: 299.5 (16th, 119th)

After Auburn: 297.8 (16th, 122nd)

After 1st bye: 297.8 (16th, 121st)

SCORING OFFENSE (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 32.8 points per game (5th in Big 12, 31st)

2023: 41.7 (1st in Big 12, 4th)

After Temple: 51.0 (8th, 22nd)

After Houston: 33.5 (11th, 57th)

After Tulane: 33.7 (9th, 49th)

After Tennessee: 29.0 (15th, 103rd)

After Auburn: 28.6 (14th, 73rd)

After 1st bye: 28.6 (13th, 69th)

SACKS ALLOWED (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 31; 2.38 per game (9th in Big 12, 80th)

2023: 20; 1.54 per game (6th in Big 12, 35th)

After Temple: 3; 3.00 per game (14th, 103rd)

After Houston: 6; 3.00 per game (15th, 109th)

After Tulane: 9; 3.00 per game (14th, 114th)

After Tennessee: 12; 3.00 per game (14th, 116th)

After Auburn: 14; 2.80 per game (13th, 112th)

After 1st bye: 14; 2.80 per game (13th, 110th)
 

THIRD-DOWN CONVERSIONS (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 40.5% (4th in Big 12, 49th)

2023: 49.2% (2nd in Big 12, 7th)

After Temple: 8.3% (16th, 132nd)

After Houston: 19.2% (16th, 131st)

After Tulane: 31.0% (14th, 109th)

After Tennessee: 28.1% (16th, 124th)

After Auburn: 26.9% (16th, 127th)

After 1st bye: 26.9% (16th, 129th)

RED-ZONE OFFENSE (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 84.0% (7th in Big 12, 66th)

2023: 89.6% (2nd in Big 12, 26th)

After Temple: 100% (1st, 1st)

After Houston: 100% (1st, 1st)

After Tulane: 100% (1st, 1st)

After Tennessee: 94.1% (5th, 26th)

After Auburn: 94.7% (2nd, 14th)

After 1st bye: 94.7% (5th, 20th)

RUSHING DEFENSE (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 187.5 yards per game (9th in Big 12, 105th)

2023: 138.6 (3rd in Big 12, 42nd)

After Temple: 69.0 (8th, 37th)

After Houston: 63.5 (6th, 13th)

After Tulane: 77.7 (6th, 22nd)

After Tennessee: 96.0 (7th, 27th)

After Auburn: 105.6 (7th, 30th)

After 1st bye: 105.6 (4th, 27th)
 

PASSING DEFENSE (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 273.5 yards per game (10th in Big 12, 117th)

2023: 250.8 (10th in Big 12, 109th)

After Temple: 125.0 (6th, 40th)

After Houston: 194.0 (11th, 67th)

After Tulane: 187.0 (10th, 58th)

After Tennessee: 188.8 (8th, 51st)

After Auburn: 218.6 (12th, 78th)

After 1st bye: 218.6 (12th, 75th)

PASS EFFICIENCY DEFENSE (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 128.20 (5th in Big 12, 58th)

2023: 118.62 (1st in Big 12, 17th)

After Temple: 75.0 (4th, 12th)

After Houston: 124.32 (13th, 77th)

After Tulane: 116.31 (10th, 54th)

After Tennessee: 123.94 (12th, 61st)

After Auburn: 136.63 (13th, 91st)

After 1st bye: 136.63 (12th, 91st)

TOTAL DEFENSE (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 461.0 yards per game (9th in Big 12, 121st)

2023: 389.4 (6th in Big 12, 77th)

After Temple: 197.0 (8th, 25th)

After Houston: 257.5 (10th, 35th)

After Tulane: 264.7 (8th, 27th)

After Tennessee: 284.8 (9th, 28th)

After Auburn: 324.2 (10th, 48th)

After 1st bye: 324.2 (10th, 42nd)
 

SCORING DEFENSE (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 30.0 points per game (8th in Big 12, 98th)

2023: 23.5 (4th in Big 12, 46th)

After Temple: 3.0 (7th, 14th)

After Houston: 7.5 (6th, 15th)

After Tulane: 11.3 (7th, 23rd)

After Tennessee: 14.8 (8th, 26th)

After Auburn: 16.0 (8th, 26th)

After 1st bye: 16.0 (6th, 19th)

SACKS (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 28; 2.15 per game (3rd in Big 12, 63rd)

2023: 24; 1.85 per game (10th in Big 12, 86th)

After Temple: 6; 6.00 per game (1st, 6th)

After Houston: 8; 4.00 per game (2nd, 8th)

After Tulane: 11; 3.67 per game (2nd, 10th)

After Tennessee: 14; 3.50 per game (1st, 7th)

After Auburn: 18; 3.60 per game (1st, 3rd)

After 1st bye: 18; 3.60 per game (2nd, 5th)

THIRD-DOWN DEFENSE (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 40.9% (7th in Big 12, 87th)

2023: 31.1% (3rd in Big 12, 14th)

After Temple: 30.8% (8th, 51st)

After Houston: 28.6% (7th, 36th)

After Tulane: 30.2% (7th, 36th)

After Tennessee: 30.6% (7th, 27th)

After Auburn: 30.3% (8th, 22nd)

After 1st bye: 30.3% (6th, 17th)
 

RED-ZONE DEFENSE (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 86.2% (7th in Big 12, 88th)

2023: 81.0% (5th in Big 12, 43rd)

After Temple: 100% (14th, 76th)

After Houston: 100% (15th, 86th)

After Tulane: 100% (14th, 101st)

After Tennessee: 100% (16th, 110th)

After Auburn: 80% (9th, 50th)

After 1st bye: 80% (6th, 45th)

NET PUNTING (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 43.08 net yards per punt (1st in Big 12, 5th)

2023: 39.60 (7th in Big 12, 44th)

After Temple: 43.80 (7th, 34th)

After Houston: 43.15 (10th, 25th)

After Tulane: 41.61 (9th, 35th)

After Tennessee: 43.72 (6th, 13th)

After Auburn: 43.97 (6th, 12th)

After 1st bye: 43.97 (6th, 11th)

KICK RETURNS (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 19.79 yards per return (6th in Big 12, 71st)

2023: 21.05 (7th in Big 12, 50th)

After Temple: 0.00 (N.A, N/A)

After Houston: 10.00 (12th, 119th)

After Tulane: 15.50 (13th, 106th)

After Tennessee: 15.50 (14th, 108th)

After Auburn: 17.33 (15th, 101st)

After 1st bye: 17.33 (15th, 103rd)
 

KICK RETURN DEFENSE (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 24.94 yards allowed per return (10th in Big 12, 122nd)

2023: 18.00 (2nd in Big 12, 37th)

After Temple: 18.33 (10th, 72nd)

After Houston: 18.50 (11th, 71st)

After Tulane: 18.50 (11th, 71st)

After Tennessee: 14.80 (4th, 21st)

After Auburn: 16.83 (8th, 37th)

After 1st bye: 16.83 (7th, 34th)

PUNT RETURNS (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 14.08 yards per return (1st in Big 12, 12th)

2023: 6.52 (10th in Big 12, 95th)

After Temple: 13.00 (7th, 30th)

After Houston: 8.75 (10th, 57th)

After Tulane: 11.80 (5th, 39th)

After Tennessee: 8.90 (11th, 67th)

After Auburn: 8.09 (11th, 74th)

After 1st bye: 8.09 (11th, 73rd)

PUNT RETURN DEFENSE (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 2.83 yards allowed per return (3rd in Big 12, 10th)

2023: 4.69 (5th in Big 12, 25th)

After Temple: minus-5.00 (1st, 2nd)

After Houston: minus-3.75 (1st, 4th)

After Tulane: minus-3.00 (1st, 3rd)

After Tennessee: minus-0.43 (2nd, 6th)

After Auburn: 1.00 (6th, 13th)

After 1st bye: 1.00 (5th, 11th)
 

TURNOVER MARGIN (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: plus-6; 0.46 per game (2nd in Big 12, 24th)

2023: plus-6; 0.46 per game (3rd in Big 12, 23rd)

After Temple: plus-6; 6.0 per game (1st, 1st)

After Houston: plus-7; 3.5 per game (1st, 1st)

After Tulane: plus-8; 2.67 per game (1st, 2nd)

After Tennessee: plus-7; 1.75 per game (1st, 3rd)

After Auburn: plus-8; 1.60 per game (1st, 6th)

After 1st bye: plus-8; 1.60 per game (1st, 3rd)

PENALTY YARDS PER GAME (SEC rank, FBS rank)

2022: 50.15 (9th in Big 12, 53rd)

2023: 58.46 (14th in Big 12, 97th)

After Temple: 62.00 (13th, 93rd)

After Houston: 64.50 (12th, 95th)

After Tulane: 58.00 (7th, 77th)

After Tennessee: 51.50 (4th, 60th)

After Auburn: 56.80 (6th, 76th)

After 1st bye: 56.80 (7th, 75th)

 

 

This is why I said concerns about formatting should be kept to yourself. This is an irritating and unnecessary post that is also unintentionally ironic. You're admonishing my posting approach while calling me "holier-than-thou" in a condescending manner simply because my post wasn't to your liking. Ridiculous. 

I know how to post in plain text. I often also incorporate bold formatting for key sections when I post. Sometimes, I don't have the time or inclination, and I really don't care if that impacts dozens of luddites or corner cases affected by such matters. 

In short, when I throw a dog a bone, I don't need to hear how it tastes. I'm not getting paid to post, much less for taking the time to copy paid subscriber content from elsewhere and post it here for others to consume.

[South Austin 52204]

Complete lack of fucking focus.

[joeycovers 389]

1 hour ago, Skipper said:

Maybe 2009 (Colt's senior year). Don't recall spread but we were a much better team on paper that year I think and barely won.

Spread was 3. If you remember Bradford was starting QB and got reInjured that game. 
 

I know the spread  because It pushed and was pissed because Colt threw a terrible int late in that game. UT should have covered and won easily but Colt played like ass. 

[Red Five 40703]

13 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Who knows, but I'm pretty sure Texas rushes for more than 27 yards in that game.

Generally, playing your best players probably gives you the best chance of winning. Or we could just give Ivan Williams, Victor Ike, and Brett Robin every carry while our freshman phenom collects dust. 

[Js1 85162]

2 minutes ago, joeycovers said:

Spread was 3. If you remember Bradford was starting QB and got reInjured that game. 
 

I know the spread  because It pushed and was pissed because Colt threw a terrible int late in that game. UT should have covered and won easily but Colt played like ass. 

He had 2 fumbles and an INT, right after we got an INT deep in OU territory.

[South Austin 52204]

Just now, Red Five said:

Or we could just give Ivan Williams, Victor Ike, and Brett Robin every carry while our freshman phenom collects dust. 

Mack was saving Cedric for Oklahoma State.

[Royale with cheese 1462]

15 hours ago, Getafix said:

 

 

 

If that many kids happen, he ain't going in through the back, that's for sure ... 😏  😏  😏 

 

 

From the old Groucho Marx's You Bet Your Life TV show (circa 1958):

Groucho: Well, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, are there any little Smiths running around out there?

Smith: We have 13 children, Groucho.

Groucho: Thirteen children?

Smith: I love my wife very much.

Groucho: I love my cigar too, but I take it out every once in a while.

(Pretty racy for 1958 network TV.)

 

[Josef Pwag 1735]

1 hour ago, South Austin said:

Not giving Benson a snap in that 2001 game really ranks up there as one of the all time Mack Brown crimes.  

Mack was stuck in that pattern. Our issues would be glaringly obvious to the rest of the world, but they were never obvious to Mack until AFTER we lost to OU. Then, and only then, would necessary changes be made. 

[HtownHorn 14581]

Michigan is a better version of OU and beat the shit out of them.

[Hagbard Celine 10797]

mack's unquestioned loyalty to davis was infuriating

[LTtxfan 49061]

1 minute ago, HtownHorn said:

Michigan is a better version of OU and beat the shit out of them.

Nah, Michigan is terrible...  gooners are better than the wolverines

[GreenspointTexas 9568]

Jesus chris this game cant get here soon enough, if for this thread, at the very least

[RockyMountainHighHorn 890]

As much as I would love to come out and just stomp them, that rarely happens in this game. It also opens up for the early celebration and comebacks to happen. Be up by 7-10 at half and then crush them in the second half. Their running qb will give us problems like always-praying hill is ready to spy and hunt like a mfer all game. 

[Park Gothic 5005]

2 minutes ago, RockyMountainHighHorn said:

As much as I would love to come out and just stomp them, that rarely happens in this game. It also opens up for the early celebration and comebacks to happen. Be up by 7-10 at half and then crush them in the second half. Their running qb will give us problems like always-praying hill is ready to spy and hunt like a mfer all game. 

Nah. I've given this game a pretty deep think and we're going to stomp the shit out of them wire-to-wire. 

They literally won't be able to do anything on offense. If they favor the run (which they will, because their entire WR corps is injured) we won't stay in dime like we did against MSU. We will adjust our gameplan to match what they're doing. Our defense is better overall than it was last year and their offense is much, much worse. Our DBs in particular have improved, and although the DTs have gotten a bit worse, the fall off is not that bad. Plus we're better at the edges. Almost all CFB games come down to which team has the better QB? They've got a true freshman at QB who, although talented, is not nearly on Ewers' level. Our safeties are going to pick up the slack that we've seen in the run game (mostly from our LBs) and that will be that for them on offense. I'll be shocked if they score more than 10 points. 

On the other side of the ball - our offense is in an entirely different league than theirs. We have one of the nastiest o-lines in CFB, we have a veteran QB who can comfortably distribute the ball against pretty much any defense, we have an insane stable WR who are among the best in the country. Our RB room is thin and one of our RBs is prone to turning the ball over. And turnovers are the one thing that might kill us. But I'm not overly preoccupied about that for a few reasons:

(1) If Blue can't get his shit together, bench him. Problem solved. But what if we need Blue's pass blocking? What if we're worried about depth and don't want him to quit on the season? 

(2) Just lean on the passing game. Yes, I would rather the offense be balanced and I would rather be "run first," but our passing game is B-A-N-A-N-A-S. It's fucking nuclear. We can bomb it all over the field and I don't see how they'll stop us. Quinn is not perfect, but he's not at all prone to throwing picks. And if they overcommit to stop the pass then that makes the running game that much easier, regardless of Blue's deficiencies. But, more importantly....

(3) I think Blue will clean it up and have a great game. Tashard Choice is still his coach. Dude is still in his contract year. He's had two weeks to think about this and work on things. Blue knows he needs to hit some home runs on the big stage to make an impression on the NFL. He can't afford to have a bad game and I think he will do everything possible to see that he doesn't. And if he still does, despite his best effort, see points (1) and (2).

Their defense is good, but it's not much better than Michigan's, if at all. And Sark STILL hasn't gotten deep in his bag this year. We immediately went vanilla against Michigan when he saw the game over. If we need it - and I don't think we will - Sark can pull out the stops and show OU some shit they haven't prepared for. I'd rather save that for UGA if we can, but we don't have to. There are just too many ways for our offense to beat the best defenses in the country, and OU is not one of those. 

We're not sleep walking into this game like we did last year. We are better and they are worse. We are absolutely going to ruin their Saturday and I don't think it will be close. 

[Hookem10 657]

12 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

Nah. I've given this game a pretty deep think and we're going to stomp the shit out of them wire-to-wire. 

They literally won't be able to do anything on offense. If they favor the run (which they will, because their entire WR corps is injured) we won't stay in dime like we did against MSU. We will adjust our gameplan to match what they're doing. Our defense is better overall than it was last year and their offense is much, much worse. Our DBs in particular have improved, and although the DTs have gotten a bit worse, the fall off is not that bad. Plus we're better at the edges. Almost all CFB games come down to which team has the better QB? They've got a true freshman at QB who, although talented, is not nearly on Ewers' level. Our safeties are going to pick up the slack that we've seen in the run game (mostly from our LBs) and that will be that for them on offense. I'll be shocked if they score more than 10 points. 

On the other side of the ball - our offense is in an entirely different league than theirs. We have one of the nastiest o-lines in CFB, we have a veteran QB who can comfortably distribute the ball against pretty much any defense, we have an insane stable WR who are among the best in the country. Our RB room is thin and one of our RBs is prone to turning the ball over. And turnovers are the one thing that might kill us. But I'm not overly preoccupied about that for a few reasons:

(1) If Blue can't get his shit together, bench him. Problem solved. But what if we need Blue's pass blocking? What if we're worried about depth and don't want him to quit on the season? 

(2) Just lean on the passing game. Yes, I would rather the offense be balanced and I would rather be "run first," but our passing game is B-A-N-A-N-A-S. It's fucking nuclear. We can bomb it all over the field and I don't see how they'll stop us. Quinn is not perfect, but he's not at all prone to throwing picks. And if they overcommit to stop the pass then that makes the running game that much easier, regardless of Blue's deficiencies. But, more importantly....

(3) I think Blue will clean it up and have a great game. Tashard Choice is still his coach. Dude is still in his contract year. He's had two weeks to think about this and work on things. Blue knows he needs to hit some home runs on the big stage to make an impression on the NFL. He can't afford to have a bad game and I think he will do everything possible to see that he doesn't. And if he still does, despite his best effort, see points (1) and (2).

Their defense is good, but it's not much better than Michigan's, if at all. And Sark STILL hasn't gotten deep in his bag this year. We immediately went vanilla against Michigan when he saw the game over. If we need it - and I don't think we will - Sark can pull out the stops and show OU some shit they haven't prepared for. I'd rather save that for UGA if we can, but we don't have to. There are just too many ways for our offense to beat the best defenses in the country, and OU is not one of those. 

We're not sleep walking into this game like we did last year. We are better and they are worse. We are absolutely going to ruin their Saturday and I don't think it will be close. 

Any brick walls around.  I’m ready coach 

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

6 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

Nah. I've given this game a pretty deep think and we're going to stomp the shit out of them wire-to-wire. 

They literally won't be able to do anything on offense. If they favor the run (which they will, because their entire WR corps is injured) we won't stay in dime like we did against MSU. We will adjust our gameplan to match what they're doing. Our defense is better overall than it was last year and their offense is much, much worse. Our DBs in particular have improved, and although the DTs have gotten a bit worse, the fall off is not that bad. Plus we're better at the edges. Almost all CFB games come down to which team has the better QB? They've got a true freshman at QB who, although talented, is not nearly on Ewers' level. Our safeties are going to pick up the slack that we've seen in the run game (mostly from our LBs) and that will be that for them on offense. I'll be shocked if they score more than 10 points. 

On the other side of the ball - our offense is in an entirely different league than theirs. We have one of the nastiest o-lines in CFB, we have a veteran QB who can comfortably distribute the ball against pretty much any defense, we have an insane stable WR who are among the best in the country. Our RB room is thin and one of our RBs is prone to turning the ball over. And turnovers are the one thing that might kill us. But I'm not overly preoccupied about that for a few reasons:

(1) If Blue can't get his shit together, bench him. Problem solved. But what if we need Blue's pass blocking? What if we're worried about depth and don't want him to quit on the season? 

(2) Just lean on the passing game. Yes, I would rather the offense be balanced and I would rather be "run first," but our passing game is B-A-N-A-N-A-S. It's fucking nuclear. We can bomb it all over the field and I don't see how they'll stop us. Quinn is not perfect, but he's not at all prone to throwing picks. And if they overcommit to stop the pass then that makes the running game that much easier, regardless of Blue's deficiencies. But, more importantly....

(3) I think Blue will clean it up and have a great game. Tashard Choice is still his coach. Dude is still in his contract year. He's had two weeks to think about this and work on things. Blue knows he needs to hit some home runs on the big stage to make an impression on the NFL. He can't afford to have a bad game and I think he will do everything possible to see that he doesn't. And if he still does, despite his best effort, see points (1) and (2).

Their defense is good, but it's not much better than Michigan's, if at all. And Sark STILL hasn't gotten deep in his bag this year. We immediately went vanilla against Michigan when he saw the game over. If we need it - and I don't think we will - Sark can pull out the stops and show OU some shit they haven't prepared for. I'd rather save that for UGA if we can, but we don't have to. There are just too many ways for our offense to beat the best defenses in the country, and OU is not one of those. 

We're not sleep walking into this game like we did last year. We are better and they are worse. We are absolutely going to ruin their Saturday and I don't think it will be close. 

Yeah, this. 

Who do you favor with Texas’ offense versus OU’s defense? I take Texas’ offense. There’s 30+ points to had there by protecting the ball. 

Who do you favor with Texas’ defense versus OU’s offense? I take Texas’ defense. How many non-garbage points are we talking here? 13? 17? Twenty-one feels like a stretch. 

Protect the ball. No short fields. No pick sixes. Spy Hawkins if that feels like a thing. Make the plays you’re capable of making. 41-13 doesn’t feel outrageous to me. 

[runthebone 7951]

I’ve been thinking about this game for a while.  My conclusion is:  fuck 'em.

[Hagbard Celine 10797]

we just passed the solar meridian for the middle day of hate week and 0u still sucks

[6th Street 6357]

Mack was scared of OU like the Coach in The Waterboy. All that bullshit about "survive the surge" had the team wound up so tight we would get blasted right after kickoff.  It was a dark time.

Quinn played like shit last year with 3 critical TOs. You gotta think he wants to put a stamp on his legacy on Sat and go out with a big W.

[Park Gothic 5005]

27 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

Yeah, this. 

Who do you favor with Texas’ offense versus OU’s defense? I take Texas’ offense. There’s 30+ points to had there by protecting the ball. 

Who do you favor with Texas’ defense versus OU’s offense? I take Texas’ defense. How many non-garbage points are we talking here? 13? 17? Twenty-one feels like a stretch. 

Protect the ball. No short fields. No pick sixes. Spy Hawkins if that feels like a thing. Make the plays you’re capable of making. 41-13 doesn’t feel outrageous to me. 

Yes - the score depends entirely on what we do rather than what they do. If we're up by 30 in the 4th, I can see us salting the game away and letting them eat clock with small chunk plays. I could see us allowing a late TD because the game is already over. But something in the range of 35-6 / 41-13 feels about right. 

[Hookem10 657]

[HtownHorn 14581]

1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

Nah, Michigan is terrible...  gooners are better than the wolverines

Not sure about that. OU has a shit offense just like Michigan. Michigan has a better defense with 3 likely 1st round picks and other draftable talent at each level. 

Michigan 15 with 2 losses - OFEI .11 - 41st, DFEI .54 - 8th, SFEI .10 - 8th

OU at 18 with 1 loss - .08 47th, .50 - 10th, .11 - 3rd

This is going to be a name your score game for Sarkisian, especially if we take care of the football like we did against Michigan.

[HtownHorn 14581]

Payton Thorne carved them up to the tune of 338 yards and 3 TDs with a AY/A of 11, without the pick six Auburn wins that game.

Edited October 9 by HtownHorn

[Hagbard Celine 10797]

it's fair park so i would never put money down on this insane line

the thing that gives me the most hope that counters anything that could possibly go wrong is the film 0u laid down against creamsicle tu

0u could not do a fucking thing

heupel gifted us incredible film on how to mudhole this thief offense

[Mitch Cumsteen 18526]

It's an obvious mismatch on paper. There's a reason for the two touchdown point spread. They are an injury riddled disaster on offense being helmed by a true freshman QB behind a patchwork offensive line. They are beat up in the secondary but have an otherwise pretty formidable defense. We are fucking loaded with the best offensive line we've had in a generation, have a 4th year first round draft pick at QB, and weapons galore at the skill positions. The defense looks as solid as it has been in years. We should mudhole these mouth breathers into bolivian.

But that means fuck all in this game. 8 out of the last 9 of these have been one score games, and we've trotted out some of the worst Texas teams in history over that timespan. Trying to apply logic to something that is so inherently illogical as TX/OU is a fool's errand.

[Hookem10 657]

3 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

It's an obvious mismatch on paper. There's a reason for the two touchdown point spread. They are an injury riddled disaster on offense being helmed by a true freshman QB behind a patchwork offensive line. They are beat up in the secondary but have an otherwise pretty formidable defense. We are fucking loaded with the best offensive line we've had in a generation, have a 4th year first round draft pick at QB, and weapons galore at the skill positions. The defense looks as solid as it has been in years. We should mudhole these mouth breathers into bolivian.

But that means fuck all in this game. 8 out of the last 9 of these have been one score games, and we've trotted out some of the worst Texas teams in history over that timespan. Trying to apply logic to something that is so inherently illogical as TX/OU is a fool's errand.

That’s where I’m at but come Saturday at 230 I’m ready for us to kill these motherfuckers and will believe it. 

[thunderlounge 7778]

6 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

out of the last 9 of these have been one score games

Let’s just go ahead and make it 8/10, shall we?

[sith_horn 2370]

1 minute ago, HtownHorn said:

Not sure about that. OU has a shit offense just like Michigan. Michigan has a better defense with 3 likely 1st round picks and other draftable talent at each level. 

Michigan 15 with 2 losses - OFEI .11 - 41st, DFEI .54 - 8th, SFEI .10 - 8th

OU at 18 with 1 loss - .08 47th, .50 - 10th, .11 - 3rd

This is going to be a name your score game for Sarkisian, especially if we take care of the football like we did against Michigan.

Michigan has better talent on defense, but I don't think their defensive coordinator is as good as Venables. Definitely need to take care of the football. 3rd year Ewers should be able to do that better than last season, and likewise, not need the better part of a half to get into his groove. I'll go ballistic if Blue or any other back is cavalierly one-handing the ball in heavy traffic and when contact is imminent. OU will be looking to strip at every opportunity. That really goes for the WRs too.

[TexasGolf 4888]

10 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

It's an obvious mismatch on paper. There's a reason for the two touchdown point spread. They are an injury riddled disaster on offense being helmed by a true freshman QB behind a patchwork offensive line. They are beat up in the secondary but have an otherwise pretty formidable defense. We are fucking loaded with the best offensive line we've had in a generation, have a 4th year first round draft pick at QB, and weapons galore at the skill positions. The defense looks as solid as it has been in years. We should mudhole these mouth breathers into bolivian.

 

 

[Pancho 44591]

Game watching in Houston? What bars?

[jdhorn92 1544]

2 hours ago, joeycovers said:

Spread was 3. If you remember Bradford was starting QB and got reInjured that game. 
 

I know the spread  because It pushed and was pissed because Colt threw a terrible int late in that game. UT should have covered and won easily but Colt played like ass. 

that pick deep in OU territory was really close to a pick 6 and would have likely lost the game for us.  Dont recall who made the tackle but it was one of those tackles where it didnt seem like it was that important, but the dude had the entire sideline open

[WinningIsHard 4018]

I was going to catch up on this thread but I decided that repeatedly closing my office door on my balls would be better than revisiting mack brown's atrocious fuck ups. 

[South Austin 52204]

3 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

I was going to catch up on this thread but I decided that repeatedly closing my office door on my balls would be better than revisiting mack brown's atrocious fuck ups. 

Hey, remember when he tried to change Texas to a power running team after the championship loss to Alabama?

[Frank Drebin 5636]

3 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:

Does anything think Texas wins if true freshman Cedric starts and plays the whole game?

I don't think it made a difference.  OU stuffed our running game for years with Benson and without.  And Ivan Williams pre-blown ACL and weight gain, which he was in 2001, was a very effective running back.  He had just run for 150+ yards and two touchdowns at almost 6 per carry the week before against Tech, whereas Ced had 21 yards rushing at 3.5 per carry against Tech. Williams averaged 5.1 per carry that season.  Ced was at 4.7.  No I am not saying Ivan Williams was better than Benson.  But I am not sure there was that much difference that would have changed the result.

Ivan averaged 2.5 per carry against OU in 2001.  Cedric averaged 2.5 per carry in 2002 against OU.  And 1.8 in 2003.  

[South Austin 52204]

1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

I don't think it made a difference.  OU stuffed our running game for years with Benson and without.  And Ivan Williams pre-blown ACL and weight gain, which he was in 2001, was a very effective running back.  He had just run for 150+ yards and two touchdowns at almost 6 per carry the week before against Tech, whereas Ced had 21 yards rushing at 3.5 per carry against Tech. Williams averaged 5.1 per carry that season.  Ced was at 4.7.  No I am not saying Ivan Williams was better than Benson.  But I am not sure there was that much difference that would have changed the result.

Ivan averaged 2.5 per carry against OU in 2001.  Cedric averaged 2.5 per carry in 2002 against OU.  And 1.8 in 2003.  

Stop ruining our jerk off fantasy that we would have beat OU in 2001 with Cedric.

[Frank Drebin 5636]

11 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Game watching in Houston? What bars?

Pinkertons is where I watch if I am at a bar.

[Native Horn 3495]

36 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

it's fair park so i would never put money down on this insane line

the thing that gives me the most hope that counters anything that could possibly go wrong is the film 0u laid down against creamsicle tu

0u could not do a fucking thing

heupel gifted us incredible film on how to mudhole this thief offense

Pos rep for creamsicle tu