Texas vs ou - 2:30pm on ABC

[TexasEd 8066]

On 10/14/2024 at 2:18 AM, achooloco said:

Not complaining but saw the yahoo article on him claiming rent free. I mean, fuck that guy but why exactly were they shooting and stabbing his jersey? Was there some anniversary or tradition I’m not aware of ridiculing a former player? 

The Cowboys shoot something Oklahoma branded every year.  Sometimes just a #1 jersey, a flag, sometimes a spirit towel, this year Baker Mayfield.  Don't over think it.

 

 

23 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

Yes they're hoping the LBs are keying on the guard and/or tackle and overstep to the pulling direction. It's a pretty stupid play design, though, it's basically admitting you can't compete and hoping to get lucky. 

 

23 hours ago, crash_davis said:

The problem is they went back to this at least twice and it never worked. Texas D is sound. After the first time I'd be like, OK these fuckers aren't falling for it, throw that play away. But no....

Later in the game, they ran it on another 3rd down play which failed miserably and Herbstreit went into detail about the dumbassery of the design. 

Even Shawn Watson would laugh at that play design.

 

23 hours ago, crash_davis said:

It think it's by design. They ran it a 2nd time for a short 2 yard gain. This is the 3rd time they ran a similar type play. This is where Herbstreit questions what the fuck the play was supposed to do. This time, there is no lead block. It's the back against 3 defenders. 

The amazing this is that they had to have practiced this play in the 2 weeks leading up to this game. Did the OU defense fall for this shit? BV thought, damn you fooled my D, it's a great 3rd down play?

 

 

Maybe the running back just doesn't know right from left.  Needs to hold his hands up to see which one makes an "L" shape.

 

23 hours ago, HuttNuts said:

 

 

To be charitable I just want to point out the Bijan made 6 sooners fall down.  They all got shook out of their jockstraps.

[kevwun 15698]

Tatum fucked up.  He was supposed to go left on that play.  Ikard went in to it in detail in their review of the game.  He said Tatum makes more mental mistakes than any player he can remember.

Edited October 15 by kevwun

[TexasEd 8066]

20 hours ago, Wally Pryor said:

Meh. You're forgetting that it was an epidemic across the country. 

The root cause of the bad tackling epidemic?  Social Media

and Frank Stallone.

[TexasEd 8066]

8 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Tatum fucked up.  He was supposed to go left on that play.  Ikard went in to it in detail in their review of the game.  He said Tatum makes more mental mistakes than any player he can remember.

Like I said...

15 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

Maybe the running back just doesn't know right from left.  Needs to hold his hands up to see which one makes an "L" shape.

 

[TreatyOak 16217]

Been listening to Sooner YouTubers. They are more upset about this year's loss than the 49-0 loss, which they blame on the QB injury. This year, they are perplexed about why the offense is so hopeless. To their credit, they don't give themselves a break for the WR injuries and they even cite Texas injuries. They rightly claim that the offense has no identity, and nothing builds on what they just did, and wonder why it seems very unimaginative, and needlessly complex. They also seem to greatly admire Sark's play calling. 

Another theme is that BV better make changes to his staff or it's gonna be bye-bye.  

[sunset87 240]

It certainly isn't a given that OU can win another game in the SEC this season.  If they lose the rest of their conference games this year, Venables might be gone.  This is his 3rd year and his offense is hot garbage.  He has completely fucked up their QB situation, and their offense. He is at least is partly responsible for how that has been handled. He might get another year by replacing his OC, but I wouldn't count on it.

I can't see their decision makers being very patient with him.  Good DC but in over his head as HC, imo.

On the other hand, maybe they are dumb enough to let him stay a while.  They're due a down cycle.

[Magabro 171]

It certainly isn't a given that OU can win another game in the SEC this season.  If they lose the rest of their conference games this year, Venables might be gone.  This is his 3rd year and his offense is hot garbage.  He has completely fucked up their QB situation, and their offense. He is at least is partly responsible for how that has been handled. He might get another year by replacing his OC, but I wouldn't count on it.
I can't see their decision makers being very patient with him.  Good DC but in over his head as HC, imo.
On the other hand, maybe they are dumb enough to let him stay a while.  They're due a down cycle.

I think they need to give him a big fat extension this offseason. He’s done so much for our program.

[Burt Macklin 19000]

2 hours ago, sunset87 said:

It certainly isn't a given that OU can win another game in the SEC this season.  If they lose the rest of their conference games this year, Venables might be gone.  This is his 3rd year and his offense is hot garbage.  He has completely fucked up their QB situation, and their offense. He is at least is partly responsible for how that has been handled. He might get another year by replacing his OC, but I wouldn't count on it.

I can't see their decision makers being very patient with him.  Good DC but in over his head as HC, imo.

On the other hand, maybe they are dumb enough to let him stay a while.  They're due a down cycle.

OU just gave him a 6 yr, $50 mil extension this summer and OU’s boosters are being hit up hard for NIL funding. I don’t see him getting fired even if they go 5-7 this year. Likely an OC firing and he’ll get at least one more year.  

[kevwun 15698]

I think you're right unless things get even worse and they they lose all of their remaining conference games.  That bad of a finish may be enough to do him in this year.

Edited October 15 by kevwun

[Hank Kingsley 20810]

OU reacted emotionally to being left at the altar by Lincoln Riley. Their HC search was quick and they wanted to find a "real" Sooner to heal their wounded pride. The in-house promotion of Litrell to OC was also short sighted heading into the SEC. 

The mistakes start at the very top. It's gonna take a lot of donor money to fix their mess. Fuck'em.

 

[kevwun 15698]

There seems to be a lot of hinting that Venables is meddling quite a bit with the offense. 

[HtownHorn 14590]

I would like to see how bad it is once they get a couple of their outside threats back. I personally don't think Hawkins is a QB, other than toughness, he has no elite characterisitcs needed to play the position. Shit, I was most shocked about how he struggled to get the edge against our LBs as I was told he was an elite athlete.

The problem was always going to be hiring Littrell and forcing him to coordinate someone else's offensive scheme. Venables probably thinks the Air Raid and Veer and Shoot are similar but they really aren't. Since they already hired Lebby, they should have hired Kendal Briles away from TCU instead.

Edited October 15 by HtownHorn

[honolulu horn 6157]

Straight from the horse's mouth

 

 

[Deej 76643]

On 10/14/2024 at 1:34 PM, 6th Street said:

That shitty tackling looks like something we used to see in the RRS from the Mack Brown era. 

[Longboard Horn 40199]

 

[markstanco 12546]

If we get B+ Quinn we drop 50 easily. So many missed throws. Another ass kicking of the highest order. During the replay last night I got to thinking about how little we hear our corners names getting called out. That’s a good thing. They are locking shit down. 

That’s more on the d line than the secondary.

[Bobby Layne 268]

On 10/13/2024 at 8:49 AM, Frank Drebin said:

Buddy of mine who went to the game sent me this.  Had a family wedding this weekend and couldn’t go.  So watched on TV.  
 

 

 

Where the hell was Stutsman going? Which lineman was he gonna tackle? He ran himself completely out of the play. 

[TOR 5518]

1 hour ago, Bobby Layne said:

Where the hell was Stutsman going? Which lineman was he gonna tackle? He ran himself completely out of the play. 

That might explain the 'run play with the linemen pulling the other way' play.  Worked in practice every time!

[Fondren & Main 6679]

11 hours ago, markstanco said:

That’s more on the d line than the secondary.

Exactly.  There was a well designed play by Littrell where they had a guy streaking down the sidelines wide open but Hawkins didn’t have time to process it.  I love that they are killing Littrell when they should be barbecuing Venables for letting the QB situation be this dire again for the second time in 3 years!  I mean holy shit this is Charlie Strong levels of incompetence and even he never got fucking whipped by OU.

[lilMAC25 3780]

Not sure if anyone has discussed this, but on Texas 2nd drive, 3rd and 3 about 10:35 in 1st period,Texas takes a deep shot to Bond.

 

Announcers (and me) thought QE made a bad throw. On rewatch, Bond slipped on the midfield logo coming out of his cut. 
 

If that doesn’t happen, Bond gets his hands on the ball (he barely missed it anyways), and possibly catches it on the run. Big change in early momentum and QE’s confidence if that happens.

[lilMAC25 3780]

On 10/14/2024 at 10:48 PM, MirrOlure said:

Just turned off the rewatch at halftime.

Playing against Brent will be fun while it lasts….another, maybe 2 (but doubtful) years.

It’s almost like, it’s not really fun beating up on a cripple?

 

the fuck it isn’t.

[Red Five 40704]

Not sure if anyone has discussed this, but on Texas 2nd drive, 3rd and 3 about 10:35 in 1st period,Texas takes a deep shot to Bond.
 
Announcers (and me) thought QE made a bad throw. On rewatch, Bond slipped on the midfield logo coming out of his cut. 
 
If that doesn’t happen, Bond gets his hands on the ball (he barely missed it anyways), and possibly catches it on the run. Big change in early momentum and QE’s confidence if that happens.

Need to rewatch again but I think it was still under thrown.

[kevwun 15698]

Yeah, Bond may have caught it because he did slip, but it was low.  It wasn't hitting him in stride.

[Covri 6231]

On 10/13/2024 at 11:27 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

Need an air Gunnar silhouette from the last one as the burnt ends logo. 

[lilMAC25 3780]

27 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Need to rewatch again but I think it was still under thrown.

It wasn’t a perfect throw (definitely one of Quinn’s bad mechanics/looked scared of the rush throws), but Bond slipped and then had to dive to try to make the adjustment. It certainly changed the outcome of the play.

Edited October 16 by lilMAC25

[Burt Macklin 19000]

32 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

Not sure if anyone has discussed this, but on Texas 2nd drive, 3rd and 3 about 10:35 in 1st period,Texas takes a deep shot to Bond.

 

Announcers (and me) thought QE made a bad throw. On rewatch, Bond slipped on the midfield logo coming out of his cut. 
 

If that doesn’t happen, Bond gets his hands on the ball (he barely missed it anyways), and possibly catches it on the run. Big change in early momentum and QE’s confidence if that happens.

It was a really bad throw. Quinn should have thrown it about 10 yards further and more vertical ahead of Bond. Bond slipped because he was trying to adjust and come back to the poorly thrown ball. If Quinn threw it anywhere close to where it should have been, it was an easy touchdown. Quinn had some pressure in his face, but he absolutely should have been able to make that throw. His throwing motion was weird on that one, so I'm going to optimistically chalk that up to the injury/rust. 

Edited October 16 by Burt Macklin

[lilMAC25 3780]

2 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

It was a really bad throw. Quinn should have thrown it about 10 yards further and more vertical ahead of Bond. Bond slipped because he was trying to adjust and come back to the poorly thrown ball. If Quinn threw it anywhere close to where it should have been, it was an easy touchdown. Quinn had some pressure in his face, but he absolutely should have been able to make that throw. His throwing motion was weird on that one, so I'm going to optimistically chalk that up to the injury/rust. 

I’m not saying it was a perfect throw by any means, I’m saying Bond likely makes the catch if he doesn’t slip.

Edited October 16 by lilMAC25

[Burt Macklin 19000]

1 minute ago, lilMAC25 said:

I’m not saying it was a perfect throw by any means, I’m saying Bond likely makes the catch if he doesn’t slip.

I don't think so. He was always goin to have trouble coming back to that since he was on a vertical route and had to change course entirely. At best it would have been a diving catch. I don't see any way he was going to be able to catch and run on that.

 

 

[lilMAC25 3780]

Don’t know if it will link to the proper moment of video (approximately 10:35 on the clock, 19:13 on video clock).

 

 

[Post Oak 20191]

The Mini Movie is out

 

[Not a cat 5623]

36 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

I’m not saying it was a perfect throw by any means, I’m saying Bond likely makes the catch if he doesn’t slip.

It looks to me like he slipped because he was trying to adjust to a poorly thrown ball.  

[TrashMaster G 17455]

7 minutes ago, Not a cat said:

It looks to me like he slipped because he was trying to adjust to a poorly thrown ball.  

This.

[Danimal 338]

Does OU have a mini movie out? or are the two notable plays they made too mini for a mini movie? Not even a highlight reel amount of material, right?

[TOR 5518]

1 minute ago, Danimal said:

Does OU have a mini movie out? or are the two notable plays they made too mini for a mini movie? Not even a highlight reel amount of material, right?

Well there's bigmouth getting trucked by Wisner, the other big mouth running the wrong way on a touchdown, the play where 2 linemen pull and the RB has no blocking, and a field goal.  Plenty of highlights.

[deft 6808]

The play where they started the bus to drive home

[Js1 85162]

16 minutes ago, TOR said:

Well there's bigmouth getting trucked by Wisner, the other big mouth running the wrong way on a touchdown, the play where 2 linemen pull and the RB has no blocking, and a field goal.  Plenty of highlights.

Just the one Ewers INT on repeat over and over and over.  Maybe a poorly edited version of Wisner fumble without the ending of that play.

[RabidM 2664]

6 hours ago, Bobby Layne said:

Where the hell was Stutsman going? Which lineman was he gonna tackle? He ran himself completely out of the play. 

It looks like he thought Gibson was going to run a sweep off the left tackle and jumped it.  There was no discipline to read the RPO or wait to see if the RB cut back inside.  He just started running to the sideline trying to beat the OL to the spot.  Bad discipline made him looks stupid. 

[pearlandhorn 3269]

2 hours ago, Post Oak said:

The Mini Movie is out

 

Our media team should be the highest paid media team in CFB.

[Vertigo 20274]

2 hours ago, Danimal said:

Does OU have a mini movie out? or are the two notable plays they made too mini for a mini movie? Not even a highlight reel amount of material, right?

BlowU, the gif. 

[WBT 20488]

4 hours ago, lilMAC25 said:

Not sure if anyone has discussed this, but on Texas 2nd drive, 3rd and 3 about 10:35 in 1st period,Texas takes a deep shot to Bond.

 

Announcers (and me) thought QE made a bad throw. On rewatch, Bond slipped on the midfield logo coming out of his cut. 
 

If that doesn’t happen, Bond gets his hands on the ball (he barely missed it anyways), and possibly catches it on the run. Big change in early momentum and QE’s confidence if that happens.

Yeah I saw him slip down from the stands.  I watched the broadcast and agree with Herbstreit that Quinn probably could have put more air under it and led him more upfield but I think it's still a completion without the slip.

[WBT 20488]

3 hours ago, Danimal said:

Does OU have a mini movie out? or are the two notable plays they made too mini for a mini movie? Not even a highlight reel amount of material, right?

Anyone remember the poster a few years ago that would refer to any gif that got posted as a tiny movie?  Came off like an old guy that had just discovered the internet.

[TotallyLegit 3050]

Rewatching the game, I like how (according to Holly Rowe, who I have massive massive respect for), Brent Venables did the Mack Brown "our D is sorry they didn't score enough points to win" meme on the sideline.

[Jkwellborn 6670]

Does OU have a mini movie out? or are the two notable plays they made too mini for a mini movie? Not even a highlight reel amount of material, right?

Probably on Vine somewhere.

[hornian 5207]

2 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:

Probably on Vine somewhere.

[thunderlounge 7779]

7 hours ago, lilMAC25 said:

Not sure if anyone has discussed this, but on Texas 2nd drive, 3rd and 3 about 10:35 in 1st period,Texas takes a deep shot to Bond.

 

 

[Pimphand 5657]

7 hours ago, lilMAC25 said:

Don’t know if it will link to the proper moment of video (approximately 10:35 on the clock, 19:13 on video clock).

 

It will  See above FIFY

[NYBevo 1699]

[MirrOlure 14702]

Maybe it’s been discussed….and being at the game, I’ve only just now watched it all the way through….

…but was that the most extraordinarily excellent visually awesome production of a college football game, maybe ever?

[Pato del Muerto 52397]

5 hours ago, Vertigo said:

BlowU, the gif. 

Found it

 

Spoiler

 

[BurntOrangeBlooded15 1564]

9 hours ago, Post Oak said:

The Mini Movie is out

 

Watch the first time for enjoyment.  Watch the second time for the amount of times Billy Bowman misses a tackle or ends up on the ground (Hint: It’s a lot)