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1 hour ago, Tex Long said:

The issue is not so much your State, it currently boils down to buying a gun and failing to disclose drug use when you fill out that fed form. If you tell the truth, you're not getting a gun; if you don't, you've perjured. Ask Hunter Biden, that's one of the get out of jail free cards his daddy just handed him. 

Right, same as it always has been. If you use illegal drugs, you are obligated to report it on a federal form.

No different for someone buying under Rec. But then again, just because someone makes a purchase at a dispensary, medical or rec, also doesn’t mean they purchased  cannabis.

Many dispensaries also carry other related products like terpene enhanced products, cbd/n/g, etc.

And even in places with rec, many people still get cards for the lower taxes, and even prices in some places.

But yes, again, technically that is the issue.

However it isn’t as cut and dry to prove it these days as it used to be even 10 years ago.

And lets be honest here, the feds don’t care about weed any longer. If they did, they would have put the brakes on it when it started. They didn’t, and the cat’s out of the bag now and they know it.

On the TSA website it expressly states, in one of their faq’s about legal states, that they aren’t looking for cannabis. They don’t care. That’s not the ATF, but it shows how little the government cares about it.

Sure, if you’re doing a bunch of other shady shit and the feds need a reason to get you held in the system long enough to finish building their case for whatever else, then they might try it. 
 

For the average person that has their nose clean? While possible, I wouldn’t say probable. If it’s really a concern, don’t fill out the form and buy private and problem solved.

But at least if someone here, who had a card, wanted to take that risk, it would not show up in a background check. So they’ll clear that, provided everything else checks out.

[Mother mopar 3379]

3 hours ago, Tex Long said:

The issue is not so much your State, it currently boils down to buying a gun and failing to disclose drug use when you fill out that fed form. If you tell the truth, you're not getting a gun; if you don't, you've perjured. Ask Hunter Biden, that's one of the get out of jail free cards his daddy just handed him. 

We all need to be aware that government agencies do, in fact, have access to pertinent information. If they can't get it in "legal" ways, it can't be used in court. But be sure they have it. For example, your internet (including phone) use is widely surveilled and available. If something suspicious is encountered, a simple "confidential informant" message is enough pc for a warrant, court order, etc. to see your hipaa info.

Is it routine? No, but it's there. Back to the intial part: you go buy a gun, fill out the fed form and leave off your use of whatever drugs they're asking about these days, you just committed a crime, and if they wantcha, they gotcha. 

 

Just for googgles, I checked on "under what circumstances can law enforcement obtain hipaa records", and here's the top, AI, reply.

Law enforcement can obtain protected health information (PHI) under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) in a number of circumstances, including:

• Legal requirements: When required by law, such as through a court order, subpoena, or administrative request 
   
• Public safety: To prevent or lessen a serious threat to the health or safety of an individual or the public 
   
• Evidence of a crime: When the covered entity believes the PHI is evidence of a crime, such as one that occurred on their premises 
   
• Medical emergencies: When necessary to inform law enforcement about a crime that occurred off-site, such as the location of victims or the perpetrator 
   
• Death: When the covered entity suspects that criminal activity caused the death 
   
• Identifying a suspect: To identify or locate a suspect, fugitive, witness, or missing person 
   
• Public health emergencies: To disclose information to public officials responding to a public health emergency 

Buy guns first then get a card, not that hard. 

[Tex Long 4613]

15 hours ago, Mother mopar said:

Buy guns first then get a card, not that hard. Then don't buy guns again.

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