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Listening to the Cuban interview with WFAA just brought up the same question I had when it happened. For simple math, this is a $5B company. And the majority owners just sold their most valuable asset for pennies on the dollar. On what planet would it make sense to be able to do that without even consulting an "investor" (all he is at this point) that owns 20% (more) of the company? He has over a BILLION dollars in the company and doesn't have one bit of say in anything. 
I only took b-law because I had to, but someone make that make sense. If I had that much money in anything and people were pissing it away I'd have problems. Makes you wonder...

Not sure if true but would explain part of that at least.

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24 minutes ago, GenXer said:

Shit, man. You best not piss off those medieval times dudes. They got body armor, horses, and a jousting lance. They’ll pike your ass.

Back in Dallas a good friend of mine in high school always said he was going to be a Hollywood stuntman. Had zero other ideas and no interest at all in going to a four year college. In school he was always doing pratfalls down stairs and whatnot. He was a bit of a goofball, but had a great attitude and when people laughed at him, he would laugh along. 
After high school he took a few classes at Richland college to make his mom happy  but went to work at Medieval Times as a squire- literally shoveling horse shit part time. 
In a couple of years, he worked his way up to knight, and about a year after that he got a job at Six Flags in the Batman stunt show. He did so well there that they sent him to an overseas park in the offseason, and after moving through that system for a while he goes out to California. Fast forward twenty five years to the present and he’s in his third decade as one of the top stuntmen in Hollywood.
He’s the only guy I know who became exactly who they always wanted to be. 
Medieval Times, man. 

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3 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Back in Dallas a good friend of mine in high school always said he was going to be a Hollywood stuntman. Had zero other ideas and no interest at all in going to a four year college. In school he was always doing pratfalls down stairs and whatnot. He was a bit of a goofball, but had a great attitude and when people laughed at him, he would laugh along. 
After high school he took a few classes at Richland college to make his mom happy  but went to work at Medieval Times as a squire- literally shoveling horse shit part time. 
In a couple of years, he worked his way up to knight, and about a year after that he got a job at Six Flags in the Batman stunt show. He did so well there that they sent him to an Asian park in the offseason, and after moving through that system for a while he goes out to California. Fast forward twenty five years to the present and he’s in his third decade as one of the top stuntmen in Hollywood.
He’s the only guy I know who became exactly who they always wanted to be. 
Medieval Times, man. 

That’s a great story. Seriously.

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10 minutes ago, GenXer said:

That’s a great story. Seriously.

It’s great, right? Let me put it this way- I also knew a prominent member of the Pay Pal mafia growing up and I think the stuntman is more of a success story. 

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3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Back in Dallas a good friend of mine in high school always said he was going to be a Hollywood stuntman. Had zero other ideas and no interest at all in going to a four year college. In school he was always doing pratfalls down stairs and whatnot. He was a bit of a goofball, but had a great attitude and when people laughed at him, he would laugh along. 
After high school he took a few classes at Richland college to make his mom happy  but went to work at Medieval Times as a squire- literally shoveling horse shit part time. 
In a couple of years, he worked his way up to knight, and about a year after that he got a job at Six Flags in the Batman stunt show. He did so well there that they sent him to an overseas park in the offseason, and after moving through that system for a while he goes out to California. Fast forward twenty five years to the present and he’s in his third decade as one of the top stuntmen in Hollywood.
He’s the only guy I know who became exactly who they always wanted to be. 
Medieval Times, man. 

great story.  huge Lee Majors fan? or maybe Heather Thomas?

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These fucking pieces of shit are actually doing "smart" pr finally. Not sure if y'all heard AD speak over the weekend, but it would make any idiot swoon.

Reset: I hope something bad happens to the people that own the Mavs.

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Heard on the radio this morning that average restaurant revenues right around the AAC are down 20+% on Mavs game nights since the trade.  Not only did they rip the fans' hearts out, they're literally hurting people's livelihood.  

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On 3/7/2025 at 2:27 PM, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Listened to a Chris manning podcast.  Per Rachel Nichols:

*AD came back too early but it was his choice.  He took this personal and wanted to make Nico look good

*Kyrie injury was predictable.  Oft injured player leading league in minutes at 32?

 

These were avoidable

 

2025: dead

2026: Kyrie is back after the ASB playing himself into shape

2027: Mavs make a run with 34 year old AD and 35 year old Kyrie (if you resign him)

 

yea Nico you pulled a fast one on Pelinka.  Outsmarted the room there

Well you forgot that one solitary first rounder they got back that I'm sure will be mid 20's ish...

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Nico screwed the businesses outside of AAC too.....

https://www.dallasobserver.com/restaurants/restaurants-see-drop-in-business-after-mavericks-trade-luka-doncic-21889033

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As Kyrie Irving hobbled to the free-throw line to take his last two shots of the season on Monday, March 3, the crowd at the American Airlines Center grew quiet. Yes, it was out of respect, but throw in a bit of stunned silence as well. Those two free throws felt like the proverbial nails in the Mavericks' coffin for the season. In the third quarter, the Mavs were outscored 34-16, and fans started heading to the exits like the fire alarm was ringing. 

One person who stayed around, presumably to finish her popcorn, started yelling, "Fi-re! Ni-co!" between stuffing handfuls into her mouth. Others chimed in from around the arena. It's the chant heard across Dallas ever since Luka Doncic became a Laker.

Later that week, the Mavs returned to the AAC on Friday night to face the Memphis Grizzlies. Thirty minutes before tip-off, almost every seat at the bar in Chop Sports Victory Park, located in front of the arena, was vacant. A server said the previous night, when the Stars played, every seat was taken and standing room was shoulder to shoulder.

"Thank God we still have the Stars," they said.

At Billy Can Can, a popular pregame dinner spot and top 100 restaurant, business on Mavs game days is down. The general manager, Herman, said that turnout for the Stars is better.

"We still love them [the Mavericks], and many everyday fans are still here, but business is definitely down 15-20% for the Mavs games," Herman said. 
 

Step-Back Three-Pointers and Good Times

Harwood Arms is a fun English-style pub within walking distance of the AAC, and also a top 100 restaurant. Last year on May 24, we headed that way after a Stars game to watch the end of Game 2 of the Western Conference Finals; the Mavs were in Minnesota. The place was packed. It was cold outside but warm and dim inside. All eyes were on the TVs overhead.

The Mavs were down by two points with 5 seconds left in the game and Luka, wearing an all-black Mavs jersey, sunk a step-back three-pointer to win it. Doncic screamed, taunting Rudy Gobert, who he just sailed his shot over, as the bar went absolutely wild. It was one of the best sports memories we'll ever have. Jumping up and down, shoulder to shoulder with strangers, screaming like ... our franchise player just sunk a step-back three-pointer to win Game 2 of the Western Conference Finals.

Nothing beats winning. Alas, we've digressed.

Back to last Monday's game — before Kyrie's season-ending injury — the difference in the pub was stark and painful. Fans had their pick of seats at Harwood Arms. We're optimists, but it was half-empty an hour before tip-off. There wasn't the usual trail of people walking over to the game or big blobs of fans waiting at the crosswalks. Ironically, the Mavericks announced that day that season ticket prices will rise an average of 8.61% for the 2025-2026 season.

Harwood Arms manager Stephanie Gaska says that she's noticed something interesting since the Doncic trade: more people are showing up to watch Lakers games.

It's hard to say if attendance at games is down because of third-party ticket sellers; all the tickets to every game are sold, but there's no way to track the seats that are occupied, so far as we know.


But outside the arena, the bars and restaurants seem to be hurting. I called HERO, which is on PNC Plaza in front of the AAC, and asked if they've seen a drop in business since the Doncic trade: they hung up on me. Fair enough. Black Tap Craft Burgers and Beer put me on hold and left me there. I get it. We're all trying to deal with this now.

The Lakers play the Denver Nuggets in the Mile High City this Friday, March 14. That'll be a fun game with Nikola Jokic fresh off his no-big-deal, shrugs-it-off 30-20-20, the first in NBA history. He and Doncic will likely put on a show to make all Slavics proud.

The Mavs are out of town, playing Houston that night, so Harwood Arms could be packed. 

 

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He’s the embodiment of failing upwards - What an absolute fucktard.

His 0 years of basketball experience really qualifies him to make/judge players.
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“leadership”

”it’s never easy to make a tough decision”

”destination resorts”

”trust”

”better for the future”

”North Texas”

and this gem from the moderator, who is a genius

”this is good for everybody”

I can’t I don’t even 

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12 hours ago, Fastbreak said:


His 0 years of basketball experience really qualifies him to make/judge players.

He's a fucking moron because even the business decisions that the Mavericks have made have been fucking terrible, but which owners of any sport have legit X's and O's knowledge?

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The sound of silverware on plates while he was spewing that horseshit made me rage.

The people eating had it right… not a thing to pay attention to save the food in front of them.
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And Exum is lost for the year.

They're literally a player not coming back from injury from having to forfeit a game in the near future. They can't add any 2 way players and have no cap/roster space, that I Know of, to add anyone.

The curse of Nico(or the Curse of Luka whatever) is going to haunt us real Mavs fans forever.

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2 hours ago, Drew said:

The curse of Nico(or the Curse of Luka whatever) is going to haunt us real Mavs fans forever.

Not sure what you mean by “real fans” these days.

I was there at the beginning. I stayed with the Mavs when Kiki refused to come.  I stayed in when Derek Harper dribbled out the clock. I stayed in when Tarpley relapsed. I stayed in when Donaldson got hurt. I stayed in when Randy White didn’t pan out. I stayed in for the whole of the 90’s. I stayed in for every bad beat and trade that didn’t work and lost free agent and defection and every tough break, and there were lots. I’ve been through everything for 45 years and never wavered, but all that is changed. It’s all different now. 

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Not sure what you mean by “real fans” these days.
I was there at the beginning. I stayed with the Mavs when Kiki refused to come.  I stayed in when Derek Harper dribbled out the clock. I stayed in when Tarpley relapsed. I stayed in when Donaldson got hurt. I stayed in when Randy White didn’t pan out. I stayed in for the whole of the 90’s. I stayed in for every bad beat and trade that didn’t work and lost free agent and defection and every tough break, and there were lots. I’ve been through everything for 45 years and never wavered, but all that is changed. It’s all different now. 

Exactly. Fuck this ownership. I'll never support anything they do. I mean, even new ownership wouldn't make a difference. I hope the Lakers win it all very soon.
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On 3/14/2025 at 7:25 AM, Bozo_Casanova said:



“leadership”

”it’s never easy to make a tough decision”

 

I've got a saying for this imbecile.  "it's never easy to make stupid decisions, unless you are an idiot. Then they are remarkably easy."

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On 3/15/2025 at 3:07 PM, Bozo_Casanova said:

Not sure what you mean by “real fans” these days.

I was there at the beginning. I stayed with the Mavs when Kiki refused to come.  I stayed in when Derek Harper dribbled out the clock. I stayed in when Tarpley relapsed. I stayed in when Donaldson got hurt. I stayed in when Randy White didn’t pan out. I stayed in for the whole of the 90’s. I stayed in for every bad beat and trade that didn’t work and lost free agent and defection and every tough break, and there were lots. I’ve been through everything for 45 years and never wavered, but all that is changed. It’s all different now. 

It wasn’t a shot at any fans. Should have said the ones that are still here. My bad. 
 

if I haven’t left the cowboys or rangers after all their years I won’t be leaving Dallas. Even if I have the entire front office and ownership now. 
 

I support the players.  Not the people above them. 

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15 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:


meanwhile, Luka is cooking the Suns

There are few things more fun about NBA basketball than Luka’s continued domination of the Suns. I think he just delights in making Booker look silly every single time they play. His mic’d up comments during the game were impressive. The never been so open comment was hilarious.

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13 hours ago, Drew said:

It wasn’t a shot at any fans. Should have said the ones that are still here. My bad. 
 

if I haven’t left the cowboys or rangers after all their years I won’t be leaving Dallas. Even if I have the entire front office and ownership now. 

No, I get what you’re saying and it’s fair. I support the players too. I feel terrible for all of them. But this is beyond the Cowboys and Rangers. 
I’ve been plenty frustrated with the ownership and front office of the rangers  and cowboys, who have been cheap, stupid, selfish, greedy, myopic and everything else at times. But both of them have always understood the value of their asset came from the fans and the city. That’s why owners talk about stewardship all the time. Because if they don’t, they lose a lot of money.

The Adelson Dumont regime either doesn’t understand that or doesn’t care, but either way, the Mavericks are just a chess piece for them, and they behave accordingly. The value the team has lost (estimated to be on the order of $500-$700mm is a rounding error for them within the scope of Las Vegas Sands, inc.
So effectively, they aren’t the Dallas Mavericks anymore. It doesn’t feel like our team. 

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Would anyone really be mad if the Adelsons moved the team? I would be way more behind a shitty expansion team at this point. I just can't root for a team owned by this bunch. Maybe if they came out and actually apologized for making the worst trade in league history and also fired Nico, I could start to get back on board. 

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No, I get what you’re saying and it’s fair. I support the players too. I feel terrible for all of them. But this is beyond the Cowboys and Rangers. 
I’ve been plenty frustrated with the ownership and front office of the rangers  and cowboys, who have been cheap, stupid, selfish, greedy, myopic and everything else at times. But both of them have always understood the value of their asset came from the fans and the city. That’s why owners talk about stewardship all the time. Because if they don’t, they lose a lot of money.
The Adelson Dumont regime either doesn’t understand that or doesn’t care, but either way, the Mavericks are just a chess piece for them, and they behave accordingly. The value the team has lost (estimated to be on the order of $500-$700mm is a rounding error for them within the scope of Las Vegas Sands, inc.
So effectively, they aren’t the Dallas Mavericks anymore. It doesn’t feel like our team. 
The players will continue to get paid and life will go on for them. Same for anyone else employed in the organization. The fans are the ones it sucks for the most. They are the ones devoting their resources, time and money, to watch this product. Many of them have very limited resources, but supporting them gives happiness. Mavs were a bright spot in the DFW sports world. Actually, 3 of the 4 have really good shots every year to make noise. Mavs are now completely shot future wise. I wish they would just move them and give Dallas a fresh start with a new team.

This whole trade stinks in many ways. If it isn't to tank the team to move to Vegas, then is it to make the Lakers relevant for the long term now that LeBron is nearing the end?

Even the Jones family in Dallas wouldn't make this kind of trade. A 30 for 30 will be done in the future about all the ramifications of this trade. I'm sure people will speak about it in a book or whatever, too. I still randomly just think "WTF they really traded Luka" at times through the days. I've never seen a trade in my sports watching days that made less sense than this if you really say any of the above isn't true. If it was AD and a slew of picks and even maybe Austin Reeves, then maybe but nah, because I'd rather have the proven in Luka than picks that will be hit or miss. And if the Lakers have Luka, their draft position isn't going to give Dallas great picks, either. They didn't even shop this at all, all other GMs were baffled at this. It happened at midnight on a Saturday night.
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