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2024 - 2025 Dallas Mavericks Season Thread - This time we're not happy to just be here.


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9 hours ago, threesheets said:

I really hope people act a fool. I need more craziness to happen so the magnitude of how ridiculous this whole thing is still resonates 20-30 years from now. But hell, on paper this is a game AD should absolutely dominate, so they'll probably end up cheering their asses off like good little soldiers.


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43 minutes ago, Gucci_Suit said:

Worst trade in any sport ever. 

Yup. The Mavs have no offense at all. If they just had an all NBA superstar who is an offensive scoring machine, instead of an aging injury prone big man who’s good for a run of the mill double double, and an aging 3 point shooter who can’t hit the broad side of the barn these days. 

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2 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Yup. The Mavs have no offense at all. If they just had an all NBA superstar who is an offensive scoring machine, instead of an aging injury prone big man who’s good for a run of the mill double double, and an aging 3 point shooter who can’t hit the broad side of the barn these days. 

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The single dumbest move a local franchise has ever made. A generational player in a league where your franchise has to luck into or strategize heavily to get a guy like him. And you gave him away willingly. You didn't lose him to free agency or to the gaze of the Lakers. You chose Nico over him. 

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3 minutes ago, mdmost said:

The single dumbest move a local franchise has ever made. A generational player in a league where your franchise has to luck into or strategize heavily to get a guy like him. 

Or make a trade with an room temperature IQ general manager

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2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

The single dumbest move a local franchise has ever made. A generational player in a league where your franchise has to luck into or strategize heavily to get a guy like him. And you gave him away willingly. You didn't lose him to free agency or to the gaze of the Lakers. You chose Nico over him. 

The funny part is they chose Jason Kidd over Luka.  maybe get a real coach and Luka can win some championships. nope blame Luka and ship him out, keep Kidd.

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1 minute ago, GenXer said:

Or make a trade with an room temperature IQ general manager

If I'm being honest, I don't see any trade that makes sense for Luka. You know what you had with him. No draft pick is going to give you the same confidence. 

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What a performance.  Happy for Luka and hope it helps him move on.  Fuck Nico forever.    Don't know when, if ever, I'll feel anything for this franchise again but it certainly won't be as long as he's employed.

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2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

If I'm being honest, I don't see any trade that makes sense for Luka. You know what you had with him. No draft pick is going to give you the same confidence. 

It is all time stupid.  a) you don't trade him to a west team and b) you get AT LEAST 2 all star level players and 3 first rounders.

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That stupid bitch Nico and fat fuck bitch tits Dumont killed my fandom if this team. Will never ever root for them again, snd I tuned in late just to see how many points Luka dragged his nuts on this shit ass team for. I wish I had a more eloquent way to talk shit about Nico but stupid bitch is all he deserves. 

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3 minutes ago, Skipper said:

What a performance.  Happy for Luka and hope it helps him move on.  Fuck Nico forever.    Don't know when, if ever, I'll feel anything for this franchise again but it certainly won't be as long as he's employed.

I predict he and kidd are gone in 3 years.

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4 minutes ago, Skipper said:

What a performance.  Happy for Luka and hope it helps him move on.  Fuck Nico forever.    Don't know when, if ever, I'll feel anything for this franchise again but it certainly won't be as long as he's employed.

Exactly 

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Just now, dcar00 said:

I predict he and kidd are gone in 3 years.

I mean if they don't make a run next year I don't see how they survive.  It seems like the season ticket renewal rate is probably pretty low.  Good buddy was a 25 year season ticket holder and didn't renew not even for the trade itself but for the way Dumont and everyone in the organization acted post trade shitting on Luka on the way out + having the audacity to bump up prices year over year on top of it.  Just a clueless organization post Cuban and they deserve every bit of the failure coming their way.  My hope is Dumont doesn't get his casino, gets tired of being hated locally and sells the team, then maybe we can all get back on board.

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What a performance.  Happy for Luka and hope it helps him move on.  Fuck Nico forever.    Don't know when, if ever, I'll feel anything for this franchise again but it certainly won't be as long as he's employed.

Even worse because I like the players. They are tough and play hard.
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The single dumbest move a local franchise has ever made. A generational player in a league where your franchise has to luck into or strategize heavily to get a guy like him. And you gave him away willingly. You didn't lose him to free agency or to the gaze of the Lakers. You chose Nico over him. 

Especially one who seems to have been really happy to be here.
He always appeared to have genuine feelings for Dallas and Texas along with the fans and teammates.
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Might have been discussion on prior pages but from a 3rd person account of someone purportedly in the room (so take it for what it's worth which isn't much), but the story is there actually was some push back as it related to the terms of the deal (i.e., if we're going to do this we should go to market and get a better return either from Lakers or others as this isn't enough) and Nico just said, no, this is what we are doing and shut down any dissent.   I'm just choosing to believe that is accurate so I can focus my disdain on Nico and the fat moron that signed off on it.

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34 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Might have been discussion on prior pages but from a 3rd person account of someone purportedly in the room (so take it for what it's worth which isn't much), but the story is there actually was some push back as it related to the terms of the deal (i.e., if we're going to do this we should go to market and get a better return either from Lakers or others as this isn't enough) and Nico just said, no, this is what we are doing and shut down any dissent.   I'm just choosing to believe that is accurate so I can focus my disdain on Nico and the fat moron that signed off on it.

Hope the pushback was squarely from Kidd because I like him - as the head coach of the Mavs. I don’t think Nico is an idiot based on other deals (well I didn’t before Feb 1). I don’t think he had the proper feedback that he would’ve had with Cuan because I know Dumont is a basketball moron. I think Kidd shared Nico’s concerns but this was squarely a Nico orchestrated deal with Dumont’s blessing. Dumont being the basketball idiot he is went along with Nico’s [Pelinka’s] “keep it quiet” schtick. 

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1 minute ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Cuban selling the team to that haggard bitch was terrible. The shoetard and pig man burned the god damned franchise to the ground with the trade. 
 

fuck em. They are dead to me like they are for lots of you. 

after 2011 cuban has been an incompetent bumbling fuckwit.  he’s dropped the ball on all sorts of shit.  donnie nelson brought us luka. 

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Anyone yapping about getting a better "return" can get fucked. You don't trade a player like that. Ever. You fire the coach and everyone in the front office first. 

I know these people probably only travel by private jet or helicopter and those don't seem to have many issues, so all I can do is hope and pray that the next time they have to slum it in a caravan of Escalades, maybe the right one gets hit by a city bus.

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4 hours ago, GenXer said:


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Didn't happen and the crowd was still so well-behaved. Bunch of bitches. My kids had fun at least. 

I'm the biggest Mavs fan I know outside of my son, and I don't feel anything at all anymore. Good ride. 

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Anyone yapping about getting a better "return" can get fucked. You don't trade a player like that. Ever. You fire the coach and everyone in the front office first. 
I know these people probably only travel by private jet or helicopter and those don't seem to have many issues, so all I can do is hope and pray that the next time they have to slum it in a caravan of Escalades, maybe the right one gets hit by a city bus.

If you can’t make it work with a player like Luka it’s a failure of management, not the player.
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You guys see Cuban wearing a Davis #3 shirsey after he gave Luka love last night post game? lol

Honestly thought mavs fans did well last night. Wasn’t a trade anybody who’s followed that team for years or decade would’ve asked for in a million years…even the player traded didn’t ask for it. Still makes no sense and you’re paying for it heavily, that’s if you’re even a fan still.

It’ll be something to tell your grand kids about tho.


If Luka goes undefeated against Dallas for the rest of his career would be the dot in the ! after it’s all said and done.

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10 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

I could totally believe this.  I think this was driven by Nico 

It absolutely was Nico-driven. I'm on the record that I think he's gone this summer after the financial fallout becomes much more apparent. You cannot make a move that loses the franchise "...over 9 figures" (according to MacMahon) and keep your job. 

I know this is a bit of backtracking and probably unpopular, but I do think, years from now, I could forgive Dumont if he actually came out and said he was a basketball idiot and made a mistake leaving all the basketball decisions to Nico. Of course, this would be after he made the right call and fired Nico and Kidd. There's a path where the Mavs could be a really good team 4-5 years from now, but they need to hit the restart button now to make that happen. 

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8 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

It absolutely was Nico-driven. I'm on the record that I think he's gone this summer after the financial fallout becomes much more apparent. You cannot make a move that loses the franchise "...over 9 figures" (according to MacMahon) and keep your job. 

I know this is a bit of backtracking and probably unpopular, but I do think, years from now, I could forgive Dumont if he actually came out and said he was a basketball idiot and made a mistake leaving all the basketball decisions to Nico. Of course, this would be after he made the right call and fired Nico and Kidd. There's a path where the Mavs could be a really good team 4-5 years from now, but they need to hit the restart button now to make that happen. 

Nico seems to be a narcissist who tries to outsmart the room.   Maybe Luka is a jerk behind the scenes and this was personal?  You cost the guy over 100m and I think you likely knew he was closing on a house

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51 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Nico seems to be a narcissist who tries to outsmart the room.   Maybe Luka is a jerk behind the scenes and this was personal?  You cost the guy over 100m and I think you likely knew he was closing on a house

I definitely think there was mutual dislike between Luka and Nico and it was personal.  But if you have any basketball/business sense at all as the owner or just any basic idea of what franchise you bought and what the fanbase (your customer) values, you choose Luka over the GM all day every day.    It's a big reason why, Nico aside, I can never respect Dumont in any way as an owner.  It's gross negligence to be this clueless about such a massive investment and to not seek out multiple opinions before trading your most valuable asset.  Forget basketball - I don't know how anyone can respect him as a businessman after this.   For all of Cuban's faults (and yes there were many) he built a massive brand in Dallas and significantly increased the value of the franchise during his tenure in the process.  He built fanbase loyalty even in down years.  My friend that just opted out of renewal after 25 years (his first purchase after getting a real job was season tickets) could not have fathomed a scenario he wouldn't renew 6 months ago.   How does Dumont not float this by Cuban?  There is no doubt in my mind Cuban would have strongly advised him that it would be the dumbest thing he could ever do and laid out all of the reasons why.  So unlike someone mentioned above, there really isn't a scenario where I could forgive or in any way respect Dumont.

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