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2024 - 2025 Dallas Mavericks Season Thread - This time we're not happy to just be here.


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13 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

The biggest L from the Luka trade that doesn’t seem to get any chatter is that Derek Lively looks like an absolute spare offensively (shades of Dwight Powell) and looks lost offensively without Luka (and to a lesser extent Kyrie) doing all the hard work for him. He really benefited greatly from Luka and it opened up his game to be a dangerous offensive and defensive threat which is amazing for a 21 year old not yet in his prime, but now he looks like it’s first time dribbling the ball since high school when he has to do more.

his offensive skill is dunking/oop but he plays defense!  defense wins championships!!

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12 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

The biggest L from the Luka trade that doesn’t seem to get any chatter is that Derek Lively looks like an absolute spare offensively (shades of Dwight Powell) and looks lost offensively without Luka (and to a lesser extent Kyrie) doing all the hard work for him. He really benefited greatly from Luka and it opened up his game to be a dangerous offensive and defensive threat which is amazing for a 21 year old not yet in his prime, but now he looks like it’s first time dribbling the ball since high school when he has to do more.

My wife asked about him being absent and I was like "I have bad news."

Dude averaged like 6 at Duke and became a killer in the league at 20. I wonder how?

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On 4/19/2025 at 10:46 AM, Bozo_Casanova said:

I sort of made my peace with this last night. I am and will remain a Mavs Fan For Life, and I really like a lot of these players. But this organization is not the Dallas Mavericks anymore. They are Las Vegas Sands Corp, and I don’t have any more of a bond to that than LAs Vegas Sands does to us or to the city of Dallas. 

I like a lot of the players. But I won’t watch them. It’s not their fault, but it sure as shit isn’t mine. I’m sorry for them, but it ain’t my fault. 

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On 4/19/2025 at 12:34 PM, Pam Cummings said:

It would be like trading Dirk for TMac after the 2006 finals run. There's not a single person on earth(besides Nico/the Adelsons apparently) that thought this was a positive move.

Dirk for TMac would’ve been a significantly better trade than what Nico just did. 

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I can see players not signing after seeing how they treated not only Luka but Klay who signed specifically to compete for a title with Luka after last year’s run. This franchise is done. 

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I just don't see how Nico keeps his job through the summer. Sources inside the org have clearly turned against him and the owner is making him do press "events" he doesn't want to do. I think today could get really ugly for him at this press conference. The media, MacMahon especially, are not going to let him off the hook and he's going to have no where to hide. 

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Another Article from Tim Cato

Took some of the relevant portions from Reddit:

 

However, those team sources consistently express belief that Dumont no longer sees Harrison as a figure with irreproachable basketball expertise. Most notably, team and league sources say, Dumont has had frustration with Harrison not warning him — or, perhaps even more damningly, being unaware — of the fandom's outrage following the trade. Those same sources say it had some influence over Dumont's decision to make Harrison appear for last week's closed media event, which Harrison did not want to participate in.

While Kidd was understandably frustrated this season with the team's injury crisis, he also resented the front office's midseason Dončić trade, multiple team and league sources say, even if he shared some of Harrison's frustrations with Dončić that led to his trade of him. That Kidd felt he had been asked to reinvent what had been a roster built around one specific star, team and league sources say, led to the midseason exasperation that notably culminated in him skipping a league-mandated post-game press conference in February.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Vegas64 said:

Yea, but his grilling of Nico was cool.

On the douche hierarchy, Nico is much higher, no doubt. Still, TMac is a “look at me” reporter in the same manner as Schefter, Shams, and others. 

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53 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

I just don't see how Nico keeps his job through the summer. Sources inside the org have clearly turned against him and the owner is making him do press "events" he doesn't want to do. I think today could get really ugly for him at this press conference. The media, MacMahon especially, are not going to let him off the hook and he's going to have no where to hide. 

I’m not sure how he keeps his job until the start of summer. 

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Firing Nico is a tablestake to win back fans like me, it needs to be done yesterday, and it's a very small (but integral) start to rebuilding trust and fandom. 

That probably sounds gay, but whatever. I'm still hurt.

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Meh, firing Nico now does zero. Damage already done. Mavs will fade into obscurity sooner than later. Sure, he needs to be done yesterday but this isn't going to fix anything.

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And LMAO at the owner really needing someone to tell him how valuable Luka is to this franchise. If true, that's about as inept of an owner I've ever seen in any sport. They have no pulse of the entity they purchased?

Or they are just throwing Nico under the bus and much more going on we won't know about. Let's see if Nico spills anything once he's inevitably fired.

Whichever is true, it's about as big of a shit show you'll ever see in sports.

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50 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Meh, firing Nico now does zero. Damage already done. Mavs will fade into obscurity sooner than later. Sure, he needs to be done yesterday but this isn't going to fix anything.

No, but he deserves to get fired and they can't righting the ship until he's gone. 

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"Kyrie is a big plan for our future and that isn't going to change if he opts in or opts out".  

 

What?

 

Also I hope someone asks him where Kyrie has been.  Because it hasn't been around the team.

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7 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

I will say, in the 10 minutes or so I listened, Nico was more composed than I thought he'd be. I didn't leave it thinking he's getting canned as soon as this is over. 

Makes me wonder what type of personality Dumont has.  From what I've seen I get the impression he's a complete beta.  But maybe forcing Nico to do the closed door round table is a hint he's not.  I hope he channels that alpha dog in him and shoots Nico into the sun. 

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35 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

No, but he deserves to get fired and they can't righting the ship until he's gone. 

Yes. It doesn’t “do zero”. If you’ve got a toxic presence, even though he’s already torpedoed your organization, you still deal with the toxin.  Stupid comment notwithstanding, he’s right in that the damage is done, and I won’t ever come back until it’s sold and out of adelson hands. There is nothing they can do. They’re my least favorite team. I root for the Lakers. 

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It's a no win situation no matter what they do. If they fire him now they're admitting (that quick) that they fucked up, and that will only enrage the fans even more. 

If they don't, we just tread water in the awful spot we're in now and nothing ever improves. Including ticket sales. 

They're fucked. 

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5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Watching now. He seems humbled and unsure about his future. I’m not predicting he gets fired, but everything about his demeanor in that presser tells me he doesn’t think his job is safe. 

I hope you're right. I'm just assuming the worst possible outcome at each step at this point. 

 

10 minutes ago, threesheets said:

It's a no win situation no matter what they do. If they fire him now they're admitting (that quick) that they fucked up, and that will only enrage the fans even more. 

If they don't, we just tread water in the awful spot we're in now and nothing ever improves. Including ticket sales. 

They're fucked. 

If fans are going to be enraged regardless, it makes no sense to keep him. They can start repairing the relationship now or let this spiral even worse when we have nothing to build a team around in 2 years. 

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13 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

I hope you're right. I'm just assuming the worst possible outcome at each step at this point. 

 

I obviously don’t know anything, but I suspect he went into this conference with an audience of one person in mind,  trying to convince him that that he (Nico)

1) Is a team player taking the bullets for the sins of the whole organization, which

2) was just really unlucky this year and 

3) deserves to be judged based on a season with a healthy roster, and

4) a healthy roster will be a serious contender to reach the “Championship Games©️”.

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He mentioned he is really stubborn and sort of smirked, as if that was a positive quality, when all I could think of is that his stubborness is what is going to entail him dying on the hill.

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40 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

He mentioned he is really stubborn and sort of smirked, as if that was a positive quality, when all I could think of is that his stubborness is what is going to entail him dying on the hill.

Being stubborn at the right times is important. Being unwilling to listen or consider alternate approaches is a character flaw that can be worked on. Ya know, if you're not a stubborn ass.

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Yes. It doesn’t “do zero”. If you’ve got a toxic presence, even though he’s already torpedoed your organization, you still deal with the toxin.  Stupid comment notwithstanding, he’s right in that the damage is done, and I won’t ever come back until it’s sold and out of adelson hands. There is nothing they can do. They’re my least favorite team. I root for the Lakers. 
You just parroted my point for me. Firing Nico does absolutely nothing for this situation. They traded away a generational talent for an often injured guy in his 30s. Kyrie has mentally checked out and is in no hurry to get back to this toxic setup. No free agent worth a damn is coming here, not that they really did before this. Fan support is reeling.

This isn't firing a coach for poor performance and that is a positive step in the right direction. Mavs are cooked and there's no returning from this for many fans.
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Reading the MacMahon piece reiterated to me (1) how many different camps and battling egos there are jockeying for position at any given time among the players, staff, etc. of any sports franchise, and (2) what a good job Mark Cuban did overall at keeping everyone going the same direction for 20+ years (yes, it wasn't perfect, but Nico's tenure and new ownership actions show how quickly all that can collapse).

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