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Glad we get UF a week after they play UGA, but then we get Arky coming off a bye.  Last 4 games are going to be brutal, a lot tougher than when the schedule came out.  3-1 would feel good and may be enough to get us in.  I like the team overall a lot, but man our margin error is thin.

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1 minute ago, jdhorn92 said:

Glad we get UF a week after they play UGA, but then we get Arky coming off a bye.  Last 4 games are going to be brutal, a lot tougher than when the schedule came out.  3-1 would feel good and may be enough to get us in.  I like the team overall a lot, but man our margin error is thin.

There's 3-1 and then there's 3-1.  The wrong 3-1, and this season feels like a complete kick in the nuts.

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3 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

Glad we get UF a week after they play UGA, but then we get Arky coming off a bye.  Last 4 games are going to be brutal, a lot tougher than when the schedule came out.  3-1 would feel good and may be enough to get us in.  I like the team overall a lot, but man our margin error is thin.

3-1 will get Texas in.

For no other reason than it's Texas and the CFP is about money and eyeballs.

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13 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

Coach was very dismissive of CJ’s question about how to get more vertical passes going. 
 

“Tell the defense to move up”

I've been wondering if college defenses have been following what the NFL is doing with their deep coverage.

I think he just answered the question.

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5 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

Quinn's average depth of target is 5.9 yards.  One of the lowest , if not the lowest , in all of P4.  Interestingly, Patrick Mahomes is also 6 yards, near the bottom of NFL.  Its being posted around X.

Also because sark  is using short passing game instead of runs ever since Baxter got hurt 

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15 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I've been wondering if college defenses have been following what the NFL is doing with their deep coverage.

I think he just answered the question.

I don't watch the NFL - are they playing safeties the same way? Are NFL teams running the ball now a lot more to keep them honest? 

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7 minutes ago, CycleTex87 said:

Thought that Quinn’s short passing game was pretty effective.  Take away the holding calls and I think there’s a couple more TD’s on the board for Texas and not as close a game even considering the INT’s. 

...and Vernon Broughton causing a 14 point swing all by himself

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6 minutes ago, MIkeHoncho said:

Any links to different angles on that one?  The one I saw looked like pavia jumped forward and landed on VB's head.   Could be totally the right call, but one can never trust officials. 

I thought watching it on TV that Broughton had time to register that Pavia had thrown the ball, and wanted to pop him anyway, then dropped his helmet to do it. I had no problem with the call.

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1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

3-1 will get Texas in.

For no other reason than it's Texas and the CFP is about money and eyeballs.

Stop making me like you. 

16 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

I don't watch the NFL - are they playing safeties the same way? Are NFL teams running the ball now a lot more to keep them honest? 

Passing yardage peaked in the NFL within the last decade and has been going down for a bit. 

I wouldn't compare college to the NFL, though. The worst defense in the league would make Oregon look like a high school JV team. 

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1 hour ago, jdhorn92 said:

Glad we get UF a week after they play UGA, but then we get Arky coming off a bye.  Last 4 games are going to be brutal, a lot tougher than when the schedule came out.  3-1 would feel good and may be enough to get us in.  I like the team overall a lot, but man our margin error is thin.

We’re going 4-0. Stop this.

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1 hour ago, jdhorn92 said:

Glad we get UF a week after they play UGA, but then we get Arky coming off a bye.  Last 4 games are going to be brutal, a lot tougher than when the schedule came out.  3-1 would feel good and may be enough to get us in.  I like the team overall a lot, but man our margin error is thin.

If we finish 10-2, Tenn and Bama will get in ahead of us. Both will have quality wins as Tenn beat Bama and Bama beat UGA and LSU. A&M is a lock if they beat us and UGA probably in.

Big 10 will have 4 teams - OR, OSU, PSU, IU.

Texas will end the season with zero wins over ranked opponents. Will come down to us vs a 1 loss BYU or Iowa State. 

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1 minute ago, 6th Street said:

If we finish 10-2, Tenn and Bama will get in ahead of us. Both will have quality wins as Tenn beat Bama and Bama beat UGA and LSU. A&M is a lock if they beat us and UGA probably in.

Big 10 will have 4 teams - OR, OSU, PSU, IU.

Texas will end the season with zero wins over ranked opponents. Will come down to us vs a 1 loss BYU or Iowa State. 

We’re winning out. Moot point.

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32 minutes ago, CycleTex87 said:

Thought that Quinn’s short passing game was pretty effective.  Take away the holding calls and I think there’s a couple more TD’s on the board for Texas and not as close a game even considering the INT’s. 

Take away the horrible throws in the 2H and we have a couple more TDs on the board.

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5 minutes ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

We’re going 4-0. Stop this.

 

3 minutes ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

We’re winning out. Moot point.

I'd like to hop on your train but you were being a classic Surly fuckhead earlier this season. 

Make your mind up and if you're on the winning team get your ass on board and let's fuckin hit it amigo. 

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6 minutes ago, n64ra said:

It doesn't matter if Quinn's average depth of target is 5.9 yards or 59 yards. The ball is moving backwards with 500 or so holding penalties.

Maybe with more chunk plays, the offense wouldn't need 10-12 plays to score. We are essentially a dink and dunk offense with few explosive plays. This is equivalent to a bend or break defense that forces offenses to inch their way down the field in hopes that execution lapses lead to punts or TOs.

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1 minute ago, ztejas said:

 

I'd like to hop on your train but you were being a classic Surly fuckhead earlier this season. 

Make your mind up and if you're on the winning team get your ass on board and let's fuckin hit it amigo. 

I definitely was being a bitchass. As recent as Saturday, actually.

QE is who he is at this point. He obviously has limitations but does a lot of good things in this offense. I think if the OL can clean up the bullshit and we stay healthy, this team can win it all. We’ve yet to see a complete game from them outside of Michigan maybe.

We can play with anyone.

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1 minute ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

I definitely was being a bitchass. As recent as Saturday, actually.

QE is who he is at this point. He obviously has limitations but does a lot of good things in this offense. I think if the OL can clean up the bullshit and we stay healthy, this team can win it all. We’ve yet to see a complete game from them outside of Michigan maybe.

We can play with anyone.

Agree.

I think we are sporting the best defense in the country. 

This bye week is huge. Need to get Quinn back to himself and need to clean up a lot of the bullshit. 

We're 7-1 and 6th in the AP. Everything we want is ahead of us still.

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Regarding the Holding calls...

A few years back a Longhorn NFL veteran (I think it was Blake Brockermeyer) was being interviewed and mentioned that one of his teammates was almost never called for holds despite the fact that he held on damn nearly every snap. He asked the guy how he got away with it, and the answer was that he always wore gloves the same color as the opponents' jerseys, so his hands didn't stand out to the refs' views.

Makes sense to me...

 

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1 hour ago, CycleTex87 said:

Thought that Quinn’s short passing game was pretty effective. 

I didn't smoke weed with a couple of UT football players in a hotel room filled with prostitues in the late 80s so that a generation later people could praise our short passing game against Vanderbilt. 

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52 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

If we finish 10-2, Tenn and Bama will get in ahead of us. Both will have quality wins as Tenn beat Bama and Bama beat UGA and LSU. A&M is a lock if they beat us and UGA probably in.

Big 10 will have 4 teams - OR, OSU, PSU, IU.

Texas will end the season with zero wins over ranked opponents. Will come down to us vs a 1 loss BYU or Iowa State. 

The way I see it....TN is at UGA and UGA will likely win, or we have to hope.  I believe Bama will lose to at LSU, a third SEC L dooms them. At OU will be no walk in the park.  

IU will lose 2 games, at tOSU and one other.  And if not, if PSU loses to tOSU also, they would back door in to at large having not made Indy.  IMO IU would be out with 2L.  IU's schedule was ridiculous. BIG is not getting 4 imo in that scenario. 

We have to go at least 3-1 and I believe we would be at large. If Ole Miss wins out, they would have a W vs UGA and it would be Aggies and Rebels in ATL.

Conference realignment has created an incredible amount of conference drama for November.

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1 hour ago, 6th Street said:

If we finish 10-2, Tenn and Bama will get in ahead of us. Both will have quality wins as Tenn beat Bama and Bama beat UGA and LSU. A&M is a lock if they beat us and UGA probably in.

Big 10 will have 4 teams - OR, OSU, PSU, IU.

Texas will end the season with zero wins over ranked opponents. Will come down to us vs a 1 loss BYU or Iowa State. 

No Way What GIF

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1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

Maybe with more chunk plays, the offense wouldn't need 10-12 plays to score. We are essentially a dink and dunk offense with few explosive plays. This is equivalent to a bend or break defense that forces offenses to inch their way down the field in hopes that execution lapses lead to punts or TOs.

TD drives were plays of 9, 5 and 4.  The 9 play drive was 75 yards. 

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2 hours ago, Josef Pwag said:

I didn't smoke weed with a couple of UT football players in a hotel room filled with prostitues in the late 80s so that a generation later people could praise our short passing game against Vanderbilt. 

Fuckin Look-at-me Louie over here.....

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3 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Maybe with more chunk plays,

The offense had 16 plays for more than 10 yds on Saturday, and half of those went for over 20, and one play over 30.  If you define "chunk plays" as a gain of 10 yds or more (seems reasonable), over 75% of our yardage on Saturday was from "chunk plays."  Sure you want more... but the offense has playmakers.  You don't have to put the football at risk downfield to let them make plays.  I'm fine with short, high-percentage throws that can turn into something big with our athletes.

For comparison, Vandy had a total of 8 "chunk plays" (which is too many) and only one of those went for over 20 yards (a 21-yd) reception.  Their two biggest plays of the day (19 and 21 yds) happened on the final drive when PK went into a bit of turtle mode by only rushing 3.

Texas "out-chunked" Vandy 302 yds to 124 yds. 

Texas was one dumb penalty and a competently called defense during the 2-minute drill from this being a respectable 3-TD win over a ranked team on the road.

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15 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

The offense had 16 plays for more than 10 yds on Saturday, and half of those went for over 20, and one play over 30.  If you define "chunk plays" as a gain of 10 yds or more (seems reasonable), over 75% of our yardage on Saturday was from "chunk plays."  Sure you want more... but the offense has playmakers.  You don't have to put the football at risk downfield to let them make plays.  I'm fine with short, high-percentage throws that can turn into something big with our athletes.

For comparison, Vandy had a total of 8 "chunk plays" (which is too many) and only one of those went for over 20 yards (a 21-yd) reception.  Their two biggest plays of the day (19 and 21 yds) happened on the final drive when PK went into a bit of turtle mode by only rushing 3.

Texas "out-chunked" Vandy 302 yds to 124 yds. 

Texas was one dumb penalty and a competently called defense during the 2-minute drill from this being a respectable 3-TD win over a ranked team on the road.

Thank goodness our WRs are elite and can make plays, Quinn should trust them more down the field. When Vanderbilt stopped whiffing their tackles the screen game fell apart and the chunk plays disappeared. One explosive pass play in the 2H. 6/16 for 77 yards. That's not working in any other game we play. Defense forced 3 TOs, and we scored 3 points, and only because the 3rd TO was deep inside the Vanderbilt territory. Meanwhile, Vandy gets 2 Quinn INTS and coverts both into TDs.

If you think the Vanderbilt offense gameplan is repeatable aginst Florida, Arkansas, Kentucky, and aggy then enjoy the 2-2 record because we tried a similar gameplan against Georgia and got the shit beat out of us.

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4 hours ago, 6th Street said:

If we finish 10-2, Tenn and Bama will get in ahead of us. Both will have quality wins as Tenn beat Bama and Bama beat UGA and LSU. A&M is a lock if they beat us and UGA probably in.

Big 10 will have 4 teams - OR, OSU, PSU, IU.

Texas will end the season with zero wins over ranked opponents. Will come down to us vs a 1 loss BYU or Iowa State. 

They were ranked until we played them , this is nonsense. 

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3 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Thank goodness our WRs are elite and can make plays, Quinn should trust them more down the field. When Vanderbilt stopped whiffing their tackles the screen game fell apart and the chunk plays disappeared. If you think the Vanderbilt offense gameplan is repeatable aginst Florida, Arkansas, Kentucky, and aggy then enjoy the 2-2 record because we tried a similar gameplan against Georgia had got the shit beat out of us.

It's a fair point... only six chunk plays in the second half.  Kentucky and aggy both bring solid defense, but so did OU.  The big problem against Georgia wasn't really our playmakers getting corralled, it was pressure on QE.  Throwing downfield doesn't fix that.

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