WSJ - Texas A&M Is the No. 1 College in the State

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Texas A&M Is the No. 1 College in the State

Rice comes next, then the University of Texas at Austin, in the WSJ/College Pulse ranking

Oct. 30, 2024 at 10:00 am

Two of the state’s top four colleges are in Houston—Rice and the University of St. Thomas, fourth in Texas and 210th nationwide. And the University of Texas has two schools in the state’s top 10—Austin and Arlington, sixth in the state and 216th in the country.

Our ranking measures how well each college sets graduates up for financial success. We look at how much a school improves students’ chances of graduating and their future earnings, balancing these outcomes with feedback from students on college life. We don’t measure reputation, nor the college’s own finances.

You can also see the top colleges in New York state, Pennsylvania, Florida and California. In the weeks ahead we’ll look at the highest-ranked public and private colleges in the South as well as the Northeast, Midwest and West, and the top small, midsize and large schools, and leading liberal-arts colleges, in each region.

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aggy above Rice and UT. LOLOLOLOL. The methodology that they use to rate a diploma mill over the 2 best universities in this state is absolute horseshit:

“Our ranking measures how well each college sets graduates up for financial success. We look at how much a school improves students’ chances of graduating and their future earnings, balancing these outcomes with feedback from students on college life. We don’t measure reputation, nor the college’s own finances.”

WSJ embarrassing itself with these rankings.

aggy above Rice and UT. LOLOLOLOL. The methodology that they use to rate a diploma mill over the 2 best universities in this state is absolute horseshit:

“Our ranking measures how well each college sets graduates up for financial success. We look at how much a school improves students’ chances of graduating and their future earnings, balancing these outcomes with feedback from students on college life. We don’t measure reputation, nor the college’s own finances.”

WSJ embarrassing itself with these rankings.

Edited October 30 by Macklemore

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[jimmyjazz 45,954]

Well, that's one way to do it.  The number of UT and Rice grads who care?  Zero.

Edited October 30 by jimmyjazz

[Mother mopar 3,318]

Ok, cool Hookem 

[kevwun 15,788]

Their top 2 criteria were sheep rape and being a diploma mill.

[TexasBeta 1,261]

Not the mandate of The University - "how much a school improves students’ chances of graduating and their future earnings" I would go so far as to say UT gives two shits about chances to graduate.. at least when I was there. Future earnings? Like how much you can make as an insurance salesman in Katy? What a load of shit.. I guess any opportunity for aggy to make a cup is good for their local economy. 

UT Mandate - "a world-class institution of higher education"... a university of the first class if you will.. 

[fattyflattie 4,639]

Here’s another way to look at it.  There’s two I’d love for my kids to attend. There’s a third where I’d rather them become a  fucking lawn technician than attend.   

[Deej 76,791]

WSJ is a liberal rag to aggy until they publish something like this, then it's the most respectable newspaper in history. 

[General Specific 3,261]

When an aggy tells you who they are, believe em!

Respectfully,
aggy

[ClubWhatever 12,144]

Did the WSJ reporter say how friendly the fans were when he got lost on the way to the stadiu?

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[Foosters 17,856]

Rupert Murdoch rag in love with aggy?

sounds about right.

[BabaYaga 15,298]

Didn't their enrollment size spike from thousands upon thousands of new engineering spots?  Regardless of the school, it's a degree that has a much higher earning potential compared to many other degrees?  All I can think of, them producing so many STEM kids that are making money right out of school.

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3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Well, that's one way to do it.  The number of UT and Rice grads who care?  Zero.

And the number of companies who care.

And aggy probably lowered their standards to bring in all the online students.

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[Captainant 27,669]

I wonder how much their "post-graduation earnings" are goosed by the aggy Qatar campus

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3 hours ago, TexasBeta said:

I would go so far as to say UT gives two shits about chances to graduate..

Um. Texas definitely wants it's students to graduate. Every university does. Texas has a higher rate than aggy...

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2 hours ago, BabaYaga said:

Didn't their enrollment size spike from thousands upon thousands of new engineering spots?  Regardless of the school, it's a degree that has a much higher earning potential compared to many other degrees?  All I can think of, them producing so many STEM kids that are making money right out of school.

Yeah this was my first thought. A ton of kids going into O&G, too.

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How long until aggy puts this “achievement” on I-35 billboards?

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3 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

Did the WSJ reporter say how friendly the fans were when he got lost on the way to the stadiu?

No, he’s still looking for their journalism school….and nobody knows where it is.

[fattyflattie 4,639]

37 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Yeah this was my first thought. A ton of kids going into O&G, too.

This drives a lot of it.  But I’ve yet to meet a Rice grad that wasn’t doing very well.  

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3 hours ago, BabaYaga said:

Didn't their enrollment size spike from thousands upon thousands of new engineering spots?  Regardless of the school, it's a degree that has a much higher earning potential compared to many other degrees?  All I can think of, them producing so many STEM kids that are making money right out of school.

Thats probably it....they claim 25K engineering students (about 3X what we have enrolled)

https://engineering.tamu.edu/about/facts-and-figures/index.html

I had no idea it would take that many dudes to figure out how to replicate a lifelike yet durable sheep's anus. Maybe getting the maroon color just right is more challenging than I thought. 

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Back in the 90's US News had A&M better than UT for one year, and Texas Monthly had a big article about it. I knew one Aggie who bought like 100 copies of that magazine. 

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Here are the top ten schools nationally:

1. Princeton University (New Jersey)
2. Babson College (Massachusetts) 😂
3. Stanford University (California)
4. Yale University (Connecticut)
5. Claremont McKenna College (California)
6. Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Massachusetts)
7. Harvard University (Massachusetts)
8. University of California, Berkeley (California)
9. Georgia Institute of Technology (Georgia)
10. Davidson College (North Carolina) 😜

 

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1 hour ago, Blotto said:

Thats probably it....they claim 25K engineering students (about 3X what we have enrolled)

https://engineering.tamu.edu/about/facts-and-figures/index.html

I had no idea it would take that many dudes to figure out how to replicate a lifelike yet durable sheep's anus. Maybe getting the maroon color just right is more challenging than I thought. 

Get back to me when an aggy engineer builds something that doesn't fail catastrophically.

[Wally Fairway 5,550]

I'm sure they will put up banner, next to their football national championship banners

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1 hour ago, Beau Vine said:

 

Looks like Steph Curry is skewing the alumni future earnings. 

[WBT 20,572]

The prospective students who'll believe that are better off at aggy.  Win win.

[General Specific 3,261]

I'm sure they will put up banner, next to their football national championship banners

Don’t forget the billboards on every major interstate!

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13 hours ago, BabaYaga said:

Didn't their enrollment size spike from thousands upon thousands of new engineering spots?  Regardless of the school, it's a degree that has a much higher earning potential compared to many other degrees?  All I can think of, them producing so many STEM kids that are making money right out of school.

Things measure what they measure and by all accounts aggies are very satisfied with their student life, and their earnings are good. At the very sharp end of the stick UT has an advantage but in aggregate the recruiting and job placement for TAMU grads isnt materially lower.

If people want to use rankings that consider admission rate, or # of nobel laureates, or academic publication output, those exist too (with their flaws).  Much ado nothing.  🤷‍♂️.

 

 

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Meat judging FTW

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12 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

 

 

11 hours ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

Looks like Steph Curry is skewing the alumni future earnings. 

Davidson is an elite liberal arts school.

Whatever the fuck Babson college is at #2 is the real WTF.

[shadow_operative2.0 15,983]

This UT site’s owner agrees. All hail our Aggy overlord. 

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2 hours ago, 52-80 said:

Things measure what they measure and by all accounts aggies are very satisfied with their student life, and their earnings are good. At the very sharp end of the stick UT has an advantage but in aggregate the recruiting and job placement for TAMU grads isnt materially lower.

If people want to use rankings that consider admission rate, or # of nobel laureates, or academic publication output, those exist too (with their flaws).  Much ado nothing.  🤷‍♂️.

 

 

I can say, could I have one wish for my junior kid looking at schools, if she had the chops and drive to do it - I'd push the A&M vet school over almost any other degree (small animal).  They often make fuck you money.  Our dogs vet (atm grad) is as fancy as most cash-only dermatology offices.  I have a few friends in PE, and there is even a facet of the business that will offer some of these grads millions upon graduation or after just to get a part of their business.  

The price elasticity for what is a mostly cash business is crazy.  Mama's doodle needs it's hip/shoulder fixed, here's a check.  

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9 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

I can say, could I have one wish for my junior kid looking at schools, if she had the chops and drive to do it - I'd push the A&M vet school over almost any other degree (small animal).  They often make fuck you money.  Our dogs vet (atm grad) is as fancy as most cash-only dermatology offices.  I have a few friends in PE, and there is even a facet of the business that will offer some of these grads millions upon graduation or after just to get a part of their business.  

The price elasticity for what is a mostly cash business is crazy.  Mama's doodle needs it's hip/shoulder fixed, here's a check.  

In the state of TX vets have higher mean earning than software devs and most engineering disciplines (including EE and ME). 

People poopoo TAMU cuz its a team sport but lets be real, UT isnt exactly an exclusive feeder school for the Jet Propulsion Lab, Renaissance Tech, or Wachtell. Youre gonna get placed at Dell, ATT, CVX, Technip, next to an Aggie, which is not a bad outcome for the economy.

 

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1 hour ago, BabaYaga said:

I can say, could I have one wish for my junior kid looking at schools, if she had the chops and drive to do it - I'd push the A&M vet school over almost any other degree (small animal).  They often make fuck you money.  Our dogs vet (atm grad) is as fancy as most cash-only dermatology offices.  I have a few friends in PE, and there is even a facet of the business that will offer some of these grads millions upon graduation or after just to get a part of their business.  

The price elasticity for what is a mostly cash business is crazy.  Mama's doodle needs it's hip/shoulder fixed, here's a check.  

 

34 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

In the state of TX vets have higher mean earning than software devs and most engineering disciplines (including EE and ME). 

People poopoo TAMU cuz its a team sport but lets be real, UT isnt exactly an exclusive feeder school for the Jet Propulsion Lab, Renaissance Tech, or Wachtell. Youre gonna get placed at Dell, ATT, CVX, Technip, next to an Aggie, which is not a bad outcome for the economy.

 

Look -we all know they aren't all bad people or wholly incompetent at making a living - and yes they have some good schools on campus - that doesn't make aggy a better school than Texas and it doesn't make the majority of them not a bunch of irritating fucking goofballs when you accidentally venture into the wrong topic of discussion. 

I typically don't like people or enjoy their company based on how successful they are. I like them based on their integrity, what they believe in, and how interesting they are to be around or converse with. And I think that elite universities should strive to instill those values just as much as they strive to add commas to their graduate's pay-checks. 

Kids don't attend aggy to expand their world-view or broaden their horizons. They attend because they're wired in that weird fucking aggy-fashion and the school speaks to them, or they are chasing a specific degree that the school does at a high level (ag, engineering, vet) or because they didn't get in to their first or second choice. It isn't a bad way to set up your life (if its what you're into and what you value) but they aren't changing the world or moving the fucking needle down there very frequently. 

That said - if I'm being honest - there are things about Texas that I'm not a fan of and that I can be a bit more objective about as someone that didn't attend but has been inundated with since I was born. There are things about my own alma mater that I don't like, but obviously I'm much more subjective and biased across the board there.

Every school has its pros and cons. For some folks - aggy legitimately is a better fit than Texas or Rice would be. But - if we're going to be adults about it - we all know that Texas and Rice do a lot more to break barriers and challenge the status quo than aggy ever has or ever will. Personally, I think that's the mark of a great university: somewhere game-changing ideas are born and encouraged. 

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[BabaYaga 15,298]

yep, at the end of the day it's a big-as state school doing state school shit - pumping out kids with degrees and getting them integrated into the work force.  I can get behind that.  I can also hate them on Saturday's and laugh at their tears on Sunday.  They're Michigan State and always will be.   

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1 hour ago, ztejas said:

But - if we're going to be adults about it - we all know that Texas and Rice do a lot more to break barriers and challenge the status quo than aggy ever has or ever will.

I don’t know, maroon carrots and false claims of turning mercury to gold are rather substantial achievements. 

[ztejas 43,449]

12 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I don’t know, maroon carrots and false claims of turning mercury to gold are rather substantial achievements. 

I mean the Journal thinks so so you're probably right. 

[52-80 19,158]

47 minutes ago, ztejas said:

 

Look -we all know they aren't all bad people or wholly incompetent at making a living - and yes they have some good schools on campus - that doesn't make aggy a better school than Texas and it doesn't make the majority of them not a bunch of irritating fucking goofballs when you accidentally venture into the wrong topic of discussion. 

I typically don't like people or enjoy their company based on how successful they are. I like them based on their integrity, what they believe in, and how interesting they are to be around or converse with. And I think that elite universities should strive to instill those values just as much as they strive to add commas to their graduate's pay-checks. 

Kids don't attend aggy to expand their world-view or broaden their horizons. They attend because they're wired in that weird fucking aggy-fashion and the school speaks to them, or they are chasing a specific degree that the school does at a high level (ag, engineering, vet) or because they didn't get in to their first or second choice. It isn't a bad way to set up your life (if its what you're into and what you value) but they aren't changing the world or moving the fucking needle down there very frequently. 

That said - if I'm being honest - there are things about Texas that I'm not a fan of and that I can be a bit more objective about as someone that didn't attend but has been inundated with since I was born. There are things about my own alma mater that I don't like, but obviously I'm much more subjective and biased across the board there.

Every school has its pros and cons. For some folks - aggy legitimately is a better fit than Texas or Rice would be. But - if we're going to be adults about it - we all know that Texas and Rice do a lot more to break barriers and challenge the status quo than aggy ever has or ever will. Personally, I think that's the mark of a great university: somewhere game-changing ideas are born and encouraged. 

On football message boards they're a bunch of weirdos because they wear denim overalls and their teams suck. In the real world most of them are every bit as normal/abnormal as our alumni and many aren't married to their school's culture the way I know many longhorns who don't plaster their car and houses in burnt orange. 

I just chuckle at all the college ranking stuff because no matter what, it's usually always nonsense. Most of us have an opinion because of hearsay about their reputation, and that very unscientific thing tends to be self-reinforcing. Do you really know whether Wisconsin-Madison is better than Minnesota-Twin Cities? Even if you somehow completed 2 programs at those schools at the same time, you wouldnt be able to make a declaration about the schools as a whole.

So instead you use some objective metrics like avg SAT scores or debt load or whatever. The results obviously skew towards how you construct the metrics. There's no single answer with that approach.

In the end, I'm confident Stanford is a better institution than UT, which is better than Sam Houston State. As to whether UT is better than TAMU and by exactly how many places... meh, wgaf

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1 minute ago, 52-80 said:

In the real world most of them are every bit as normal/abnormal as our alumni and many aren't married to their school's culture

I haven't known this to be true. I'm guessing you don't live amongst them. 

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1 minute ago, 52-80 said:

On football message boards they're a bunch of weirdos because they wear denim overalls and their teams suck. In the real world most of them are every bit as normal/abnormal as our alumni and many aren't married to their school's culture the way I know many longhorns who don't plaster their car and houses in burnt orange. 

I disagree with this. A lot. 

2 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

In the end, I'm confident Stanford is a better institution than UT, which is better than Sam Houston State. As to whether UT is better than TAMU and by exactly how many places... meh, wgaf

I also think this is a crazy statement.

And, no offense, but don't you live in Europe?

I went to neither of these schools yet I interact with their grads/fans on a daily basis. in fact - I interacted with a ton of aggy fans last weekend and thought they were all mostly pleasant. 

And I still think both of your above, quoted statements are fucking insane. 

Just now, Da Fino said:

I haven't known this to be true. I'm guessing you don't live amongst them. 

He doesn't.

[ztejas 43,449]

Also I can't believe I'm carrying water for you nerds like this right now. 

[Dnaguy 11,964]

Looks like someone got them an internship at the WSJ….

[52-80 19,158]

16 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I disagree with this. A lot. 

I also think this is a crazy statement.

And, no offense, but don't you live in Europe?

I went to neither of these schools yet I interact with their grads/fans on a daily basis. in fact - I interacted with a ton of aggy fans last weekend and thought they were all mostly pleasant. 

And I still think both of your above, quoted statements are fucking insane. 

He doesn't.

I've crossed passed with plenty of them in and out of Texas. With 50k+ student body plenty of them make it out of the country too. And they have a robust student exchange program.

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1 minute ago, 52-80 said:

And they have a robust sheep exchange program.

FIFY

[Dnaguy 11,964]

Just now, 52-80 said:

I've crossed passed with plenty of them in and out of Texas. With 50k+ student body plenty of them make it out of the country too. And they have a robust student exchange program.

[ztejas 43,449]

2 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

I've crossed passed

Damn no shit.

Where did you get your education again?

[Orange&White 5,528]

NVM...I see Deej already made the point.

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51 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I don’t know, maroon carrots and false claims of turning mercury to gold are rather substantial achievements. 

Don't forget cold fusion: