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6 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Probably not, but now that I have your attention, what is this shit?  All that money and still running stuff like a bunch of bumpkins

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42098515/sources-college-helmet-communications-unencrypted-frequencies

I'm curious as to why GSC didn't provide their headsets with the encryption already enabled. 

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I mean every major staff apparently used to have a dude who tried to steal calls. Do we really believe they were all let go? Or maybe they watched some YouTube videos and figured out how to eavesdrop on their opponents

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An opponent tuned into that frequency would also need to know how to decode their playcalls and effectively communicate adjustments to their own team before the snap, a much more challenging task than sideline signal stealing.

"There's no real advantage," one Big 12 chief of staff argued. "One, you're speaking a different language. Two, if you think you'd be able to enact in real time what they say and try to do it on the field, you're delusional. You're just being your stereotypical paranoid football coach. You can't relay it to the kids fast enough."

I agree that trying to counter every play would be hard to communicate to the 'D'.  But on some downs flashing a sign for Run, Pass, RPO, or a specific player would be very doable.   As for decoding the calls, if you can grok Spider 2 Y Banana, you can pick it up.

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The analytics nerds need to determine if there’s been a measurable improvement in on the field tactics now that we have helmet communication. I know it’s a limited amount of data. But my bet is “no”.

Probably not too much different than the Coach mound visits in Little League where the Coach says “come on man, just throw strikes!” And the 12 year old says “what the fuck do you think I’ve been trying to do???”

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6 minutes ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

From the article.

I agree that trying to counter every play would be hard to communicate to the 'D'.  But on some downs flashing a sign for Run, Pass, RPO, or a specific player would be very doable.   As for decoding the calls, if you can grok Spider 2 Y Banana, you can pick it up.

I didn’t read the article, but if they can hear the play, it’s no different than the sign stealing that was described on the Netflix special. They got so good at it they could relay exact plays before the snap.

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10 minutes ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

From the article.

I agree that trying to counter every play would be hard to communicate to the 'D'.  But on some downs flashing a sign for Run, Pass, RPO, or a specific player would be very doable.   As for decoding the calls, if you can grok Spider 2 Y Banana, you can pick it up.

You want a play? I can get you a play, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me. Hell, I can get you a play by 3 o'clock this afternoon...

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13 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I didn’t read the article, but if they can hear the play, it’s no different than the sign stealing that was described on the Netflix special. They got so good at it they could relay exact plays before the snap.

I think the notion is that when you steal signs, and especially when you have video of prior games you have video of the sign and then the play that was immediately run so you can link the two together for your upcoming game that "when you see that sign this is the play that is going to be run" and thus just by hearing what the play call is without the prior decoder you may have no idea what it means it will be.  BUT they call it again and you've been charting it, then absolutely you have it broken and can help the defense or offense.

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2 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

I think the notion is that when you steal signs, and especially when you have video of prior games you have video of the sign and then the play that was immediately run so you can link the two together for your upcoming game that "when you see that sign this is the play that is going to be run" and thus just by hearing what the play call is without the prior decoder you may have no idea what it means it will be.  BUT they call it again and you've been charting it, then absolutely you have it broken and can help the defense or offense.

I’m just assuming they are all still cheating and taking videos of previous games while listening to the headset. 

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We've got to have a game whose integrity is not questionable in any way on a Saturday afternoon. We owe it to the 120 young men on our football team to ensure that happens, that it's a game of fair competition and the same set of rules are enforced."

Texas Tech AD Kirby Hocutt to ESPN

GTFOH it's the fucking big 12 you're talking about. Yormark and his cronies, such as yourself, are corrupt as hell. If Texas was still in the big 12 our opponents would have one of our receivers in their coaches box

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4 minutes ago, Dennis Taylor said:

GTFOH it's the fucking big 12 you're talking about. Yormark and his cronies, such as yourself, are corrupt as hell. If Texas was still in the big 12 our opponents would have one of our receivers in their coaches box

Well, yeah if they were able to put Bond or Wingo in their coaching box that would be a pretty big disadvantage.

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2 hours ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

From the article.

I agree that trying to counter every play would be hard to communicate to the 'D'.  But on some downs flashing a sign for Run, Pass, RPO, or a specific player would be very doable.   As for decoding the calls, if you can grok Spider 2 Y Banana, you can pick it up.

or something wild like banging a trash can if it’s a run.  but if a team actually did that they’d be lower than pond scum and any games they won would essentially be meaningless. 

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44 minutes ago, ATXbronco said:

Tech didn't report this until they lost a game first and suddenly "headphones are hacked"

Yeah, now we know how you won all those other games


Tech goes out and buys $70k of equipment from CoachComm, the biggest competitor to GSC.

 

Tip of the cap to CoachComm sales team. I can see that dude (or gal) scouring football results and picking up the phone and cold calling blown out teams first thing Monday morning:

“so Coach, I see a tough week. Hey, you know the headset comm you have? Anyone that’s remotely tech-savvy can listen in on that. I have no doubt Rapelor had your calls….but our product? Completely encrypted and air tight.. order by tomorrow, I can get you a 30% discount…$70k. I’m charging those t-sips down in Austin $100k…what do you say? Give me a verbal before we hang up and I’ll make sure we have it delivered and set up by Wednesday.”

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10 hours ago, ATXbronco said:

Tech didn't report this until they lost a game first and suddenly "headphones are hacked"

Yeah, now we know how you won all those other games

Yep.  

Joey ain't the guy.

Guess who hired him?

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15 hours ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

From the article.

I agree that trying to counter every play would be hard to communicate to the 'D'.  But on some downs flashing a sign for Run, Pass, RPO, or a specific player would be very doable.   As for decoding the calls, if you can grok Spider 2 Y Banana, you can pick it up.

This. In HS I played 2nd base and several times I figured out the 3rd base coach's steal sign. Then I'd just tell the catcher in between innings to be ready to throw to 2nd if he heard me yell out something like "be on your toes xxxx". We'd mix up what I said so they wouldn't catch on. It worked like a charm. 

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17 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

Probably not, but now that I have your attention, what is this shit?  All that money and still running stuff like a bunch of bumpkins

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42098515/sources-college-helmet-communications-unencrypted-frequencies

I've wondered about that since the coms started. I mean if a team can figure out/steal signal from a bunch of lunatics jumping around holding up various signs, hell listening in would seem like a piece of cake. 

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1 minute ago, Beau Vine said:

There's a shocker.  The GSC offices are all locked up and the shades drawn while they get drunk and surf porn, hoping this all blows over.

Sound like a place I could really excel at

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19 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

Probably not, but now that I have your attention, what is this shit?  All that money and still running stuff like a bunch of bumpkins

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42098515/sources-college-helmet-communications-unencrypted-frequencies

Leave them unencrypted so all the fans can easily listen in too.

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1 hour ago, SHOOTER12 said:

I've wondered about that since the coms started. I mean if a team can figure out/steal signal from a bunch of lunatics jumping around holding up various signs, hell listening in would seem like a piece of cake. 


It is.

 

 

 

10 minutes ago, n64ra said:

Leave them unencrypted so all the fans can easily listen in too.


This ain’t racin!

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20 hours ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

From the article.

I agree that trying to counter every play would be hard to communicate to the 'D'.  But on some downs flashing a sign for Run, Pass, RPO, or a specific player would be very doable.   As for decoding the calls, if you can grok Spider 2 Y Banana, you can pick it up.

He's in witness protection 

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20 hours ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

From the article.

I agree that trying to counter every play would be hard to communicate to the 'D'.  But on some downs flashing a sign for Run, Pass, RPO, or a specific player would be very doable.   As for decoding the calls, if you can grok Spider 2 Y Banana, you can pick it up.

Yeah I don't know why someone couldn't just listen in and call whatever the perfect defense is against a given play. Seems easy actually.

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I mean, are they giving step-by-step directions over the headset or something?
More likely they're just shouting code words that are no different than the coded signs they display on the sidelines.  

An audible code is surely just as hard to decipher as a visual code out in plain view for everyone to see.

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On 10/30/2024 at 7:50 PM, 0xdeadbeef said:

As for decoding the calls, if you can grok Spider 2 Y Banana, you can pick it up.

Yeah, football coaches aren't all inventing their own terminology.  They all use the same shit they were taught under other coaches.

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