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8 minutes ago, Yev Kassem said:

Kamala about to get blown out in the EC and popular vote. They haven’t even called NJ yet.  The Dems have a lot of soul searching to do for 2028 as to who can recapture and build upon Biden’s 2020 coalition.  

The good news it they'll have another set up from an incompetent administration.

That's also the bad news.

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Dems have to really rebrand and get stronger more aggressive messaging. They’re bringing a knife to a gun fight in terms of average person perception. 

Unless they buy up a bunch of blatant propaganda outlets, not sure how it changes.

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3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Dems have to really rebrand and get stronger more aggressive messaging. They’re bringing a knife to a gun fight in terms of average person perception. 

I was just thinking about this.

How do you convey a concept to third graders?

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Just now, horncyclist said:

It might not have mattered anyway the way this transpired but more blame rests with Joe Biden for not announcing he's not running by mid-2023 to set up an open Primary than anyone else. Country's fucked. We'll see how much of dangerous erratic decision-making we get versus Project 2025. Probably the worst of both. 

Joe Biden delayed what now seems inevitable. The American people did this to themselves. Trump didn't force anyone to vote for him. 

America isn't a monolith, but it has lacked accountability and strong moral direction for a significant portion of my life. This is a sign of an eroded society incapable of accountability or collective goodwill. The American you live in isn't changing, the feeling you feel now is what brisket has been talking about. Trump is a symptom, he's not the disease. The American population is sick (unhealthy) and a lot of people thought defeating Trump in this election would turn the page and put things on the mend. After tonights result, even if a few hundred thousand people switched their votes and the outcome was different I don't believe for one second that it would heal America. There's something deeply wrong with a large majority of the country. 

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3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

One problem for Dems is they keep thinking America is smarter than Americans really are. They keep thinking, there’s no way Americans will fall for Russian disinformation. And yet, Americans keep showing you THEY FALL FOR RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION!.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again—Dems have to get younger. New names are needed. 

Agree. And stop relying on star power. It really does not work. It is entertainment. We make fun of hulk hogan at trump rally's, but the message came from Miller and the gang. Yell louder, don't make sense, just stay on message. Push fear. Wonder where we heard that in history before.

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Dems have to really rebrand and get stronger more aggressive messaging. They’re bringing a knife to a gun fight in terms of average person perception. 

This will keep happening as long as they are afraid of being called socialists. They need to lean into those progressive policies they know to be popular. 

The Harris campaign used Liz Cheney to campaign for her. That's almost beyond comprehension, but totally on par for Democrats who are terrified of their left wing.

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7 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

No response to this?

 

Putin decided Ukraine was worth invading while Obama and Biden were in office. For whatever reason, he didn't try it while Trump was in charge. Maybe Trump barters an end to the war as he mentioned, or maybe he brings a show of force to get Putin to back down. Too early to say, but the fact remains Putin didn't screw with Ukraine while Trump was there. Trump pushed NATO members to hold up their end of defense spending to put pressure on Russia to begin with, and he also urged Germany and other European nations to reduce their dependence on Russian energy to hurt Moscow. That bit them in the butt when the Ukraine war started.

As far as destroying LGBT rights, that's not really been part of Trump's platform in the past. I'd be surprised if he did anything there.

SC justices, yeah, I could definitely see them getting paid off to retire and they'll get replaced. At the end of the day you're replacing two conservatives with conservatives though.

So all that is going to be really shitty? I think we'll be okay.

I think an effort at deportation will be made, it will just depend on how much money they want to throw at the problem. At the end of the day the damage is probably done, and there will be a lot of tax dollars spent assisting these people that crossed illegally. 

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1 minute ago, MissingInAction said:

I was just thinking about this.

How do you convey a concept to third graders?


run your script through some sort of Flesch-Kincaid AI LLM. 

 

Trump legitimately speaks at a 4th grade level. Helps him connect with the mouth breathers that get their news from chain emails. 
 

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Every R voter around me (physically, i.e. neighbors) are at least partially dependent upon social security, whether they want to admit it or not.  They've just chosen to potentially have that cut.  I hope they are happy.  

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1 minute ago, Spankytoes said:

I’m ok with that.

Fuck you you fucking piece of shit. I have cancer. The pills I take to keep me alive cost $30,000 a month on the best and most expensive possible insurance that exists. If they take away protections for preexisting conditions, I die and my wife and kids go bankrupt in the process. Fuck you. 

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Fuck you you fucking piece of shit. I have cancer. The pills I take to keep me alive cost $30,000 a month on the best and most expensive possible insurance that exists. If they take away protections for preexisting conditions, I die and my wife and kids go bankrupt in the process. Fuck you. 


your wasting your breath. 

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10 minutes ago, Pancho said:

no, that was a set up. that wouldn’t have prevented tonight

I didn’t think it was a setup initially, but in the week after he interviewed Trump I came to that conclusion too

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1 minute ago, BamaATL said:

Every R voter around me (physically, i.e. neighbors) are at least partially dependent upon social security, whether they want to admit it or not.  They've just chosen to potentially have that cut.  I hope they are happy.  

Oh, they are never, ever going to cut benefits to current recipients.

Boomers win again.

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11 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

Well, the off-year elections and mid-terms are going to be like D+20

Yeah I thought that last time. Didn't really work out.

That is what makes this time different. I can see pretty clearly what this means.

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1 minute ago, ulukinatme said:

Putin decided Ukraine was worth invading while Obama and Biden were in office. For whatever reason, he didn't try it while Trump was in charge. Maybe Trump barters an end to the war as he mentioned, or maybe he brings a show of force to get Putin to back down. Too early to say, but the fact remains Putin didn't screw with Ukraine while Trump was there. Trump pushed NATO members to hold up their end of defense spending to put pressure on Russia to begin with, and he also urged Germany and other European nations to reduce their dependence on Russian energy to hurt Moscow. That bit them in the butt when the Ukraine war started.

As far as destroying LGBT rights, that's not really been part of Trump's platform in the past. I'd be surprised if he did anything there.

SC justices, yeah, I could definitely see them getting paid off to retire and they'll get replaced. At the end of the day you're replacing two conservatives with conservatives though.

So all that is going to be really shitty? I think we'll be okay.

I think an effort at deportation will be made, it will just depend on how much money they want to throw at the problem. At the end of the day the damage is probably done, and there will be a lot of tax dollars spent assisting these people that crossed illegally. 

Thank you for an actual response. I think you're being willfully ignorant about Putin's influence in the country and why Russia wanted desperately for Trump to be President. But we'll see.

Also, we both know what would actually put a real dent in illegal crossings: real, significant penalties to any company caught employing an illegal citizen. Why do you think it is that the GOP would never, ever vote for something like that?

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11 minutes ago, Pancho said:

One problem for Dems is they keep thinking America is smarter than Americans really are. They keep thinking, there’s no way Americans will fall for Russian disinformation. And yet, Americans keep showing you THEY FALL FOR RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION!.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again—Dems have to get younger. New names are needed. 

Maybe America has just gotten too fucking stupid. 

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8 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Agree. And stop relying on star power. It really does not work. It is entertainment. We make fun of hulk hogan at trump rally's, but the message came from Miller and the gang. Yell louder, don't make sense, just stay on message. Push fear. Wonder where we heard that in history before.

The fucking playbook.

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Of course you are but what about those on dialysis not as lucky to have your silver spoon? 

But he has "privatized" insurance through his wife. No problems. That shit is mostly free and doesn't cost anyone anything...
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2 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:


your wasting your breath. 

I don’t give a flying fuck. This is my life. You think I give two shits if typing to this unmitigated shitstain doesn’t change his mind. Fuck anyone who thinks like he does and fuck anyone who forgives others for thinking that way too.

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5 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

Not my problem

Glad you own it but myself and a couple family members went into debt for our family needed it 3 times a week for years. My grandpa was going through it 15 years ago and it was hell for our family financially. If I would have known you felt this way when I met you I would have beat the shit out of you. You are a shit person 

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7 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:


run your script through some sort of Flesch-Kincaid AI LLM. 

 

Trump legitimately speaks at a 4th grade level. Helps him connect with the mouth breathers that get their news from chain emails. 
 

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God damn it. 

Has surly become the vessel of critical thought?

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15 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Dems have to really rebrand and get stronger more aggressive messaging. They’re bringing a knife to a gun fight in terms of average person perception. 

Agreed, the average American intelligence has declined significantly and we need to adjust. More lights, more colors, more trans fear, more pandering to machismo Latinos. 

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12 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Unless they buy up a bunch of blatant propaganda outlets, not sure how it changes.

Nah. Democrats are fighting wtf bronze against nukes. Now we can all be anti nuke but agree we can move from bronze through iron into steel gunpowder and beyond without nuking the planet. dems think rough is nuclear because that's how republicans act. 

and then democrats have their purity tests. THESE PEOPLE ARE FASCIST but my litmus paper turned red teacher fuck you

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5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

what the fuck man

That’s the whole crux of the maga movement: fuck you, I got mine. It’s not about creating a nation for everyone. It’s about grabbing as much as you can before it falls apart. 

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6 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Thank you for an actual response. I think you're being willfully ignorant about Putin's influence in the country and why Russia wanted desperately for Trump to be President. But we'll see.

Also, we both know what would actually put a real dent in illegal crossings: real, significant penalties to any company caught employing an illegal citizen. Why do you think it is that the GOP would never, ever vote for something like that?

We'll see with Putin. I think Russia prefers chaos and sees Trump as the more divisive, which is good for them. On the other hand, Putin obviously hasn't feared Biden or Obama when it comes to involvement in the Ukraine invasions.

Truth, farmers would get hit most hard probably if the labor dried up. For that reason GOP probably won't significantly penalize employers using illegal labor.

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