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  On 11/6/2024 at 6:31 AM, Yev Kassem said:

Kamala about to get blown out in the EC and popular vote. They havenโ€™t even called NJ yet.  The Dems have a lot of soul searching to do for 2028 as to who can recapture and build upon Bidenโ€™s 2020 coalition.  

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The good news it they'll have another set up from an incompetent administration.

That's also the bad news.

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  On 11/6/2024 at 6:39 AM, BurntOrange&White said:

Dems have to really rebrand and get stronger more aggressive messaging. Theyโ€™re bringing a knife to a gun fight in terms of average person perception. 

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Unless they buy up a bunch of blatant propaganda outlets, not sure how it changes.

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I am sooo looking forward to them finally gutting Obamacare.  Good luck, non-wealthy Trump voters!

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If Obama did 2 percent of what Trump did they would have put him on a rail gun and shot him to Taiwan. This country has a sickness, deeply in the marrow, and it all started with the Civil War. 

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  On 11/6/2024 at 6:39 AM, Pancho said:

One problem for Dems is they keep thinking America is smarter than Americans really are. They keep thinking, thereโ€™s no way Americans will fall for Russian disinformation. And yet, Americans keep showing you THEY FALL FOR RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION!.

Iโ€™ve said it before and Iโ€™ll say it againโ€”Dems have to get younger. New names are needed. 

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Agree. And stop relying on star power. It really does not work. It is entertainment. We make fun of hulk hogan at trump rally's, but the message came from Miller and the gang. Yell louder, don't make sense, just stay on message. Push fear. Wonder where we heard that in history before.

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  On 11/6/2024 at 6:39 AM, BurntOrange&White said:

Dems have to really rebrand and get stronger more aggressive messaging. Theyโ€™re bringing a knife to a gun fight in terms of average person perception. 

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This will keep happening as long as they are afraid of being called socialists. They need to lean into those progressive policies they know to be popular. 

The Harris campaign used Liz Cheney to campaign for her. That's almost beyond comprehension, but totally on par for Democrats who are terrified of their left wing.

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Posted
  On 11/6/2024 at 6:28 AM, aggie08 said:

No response to this?

 

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Putin decided Ukraine was worth invading while Obama and Biden were in office. For whatever reason, he didn't try it while Trump was in charge. Maybe Trump barters an end to the war as he mentioned, or maybe he brings a show of force to get Putin to back down. Too early to say, but the fact remains Putin didn't screw with Ukraine while Trump was there. Trump pushed NATO members to hold up their end of defense spending to put pressure on Russia to begin with, and he also urged Germany and other European nations to reduce their dependence on Russian energy to hurt Moscow. That bit them in the butt when the Ukraine war started.

As far as destroying LGBT rights, that's not really been part of Trump's platform in the past. I'd be surprised if he did anything there.

SC justices, yeah, I could definitely see them getting paid off to retire and they'll get replaced. At the end of the day you're replacing two conservatives with conservatives though.

So all that is going to be really shitty? I think we'll be okay.

I think an effort at deportation will be made, it will just depend on how much money they want to throw at the problem. At the end of the day the damage is probably done, and there will be a lot of tax dollars spent assisting these people that crossed illegally. 

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Posted
  On 11/6/2024 at 6:43 AM, MissingInAction said:

I was just thinking about this.

How do you convey a concept to third graders?

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run your script through some sort of Flesch-Kincaid AI LLM. 

 

Trump legitimately speaks at a 4th grade level. Helps him connect with the mouth breathers that get their news from chain emails. 
 

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Every R voter around me (physically, i.e. neighbors) are at least partially dependent upon social security, whether they want to admit it or not.  They've just chosen to potentially have that cut.  I hope they are happy.  

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Posted
  On 11/6/2024 at 6:48 AM, Frank The Tank said:

Fuck you you fucking piece of shit. I have cancer. The pills I take to keep me alive cost $30,000 a month on the best and most expensive possible insurance that exists. If they take away protections for preexisting conditions, I die and my wife and kids go bankrupt in the process. Fuck you. 

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your wasting your breath. 

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  On 11/6/2024 at 6:38 AM, Pancho said:

no, that was a set up. that wouldnโ€™t have prevented tonight

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I didnโ€™t think it was a setup initially, but in the week after he interviewed Trump I came to that conclusion too

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  On 11/6/2024 at 6:47 AM, BamaATL said:

Every R voter around me (physically, i.e. neighbors) are at least partially dependent upon social security, whether they want to admit it or not.  They've just chosen to potentially have that cut.  I hope they are happy.  

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Oh, they are never, ever going to cut benefits to current recipients.

Boomers win again.

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  On 11/6/2024 at 6:41 AM, Zonahorn said:

Well, the off-year elections and mid-terms are going to be like D+20

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Yeah I thought that last time. Didn't really work out.

That is what makes this time different. I can see pretty clearly what this means.

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  On 11/6/2024 at 6:45 AM, ulukinatme said:

Putin decided Ukraine was worth invading while Obama and Biden were in office. For whatever reason, he didn't try it while Trump was in charge. Maybe Trump barters an end to the war as he mentioned, or maybe he brings a show of force to get Putin to back down. Too early to say, but the fact remains Putin didn't screw with Ukraine while Trump was there. Trump pushed NATO members to hold up their end of defense spending to put pressure on Russia to begin with, and he also urged Germany and other European nations to reduce their dependence on Russian energy to hurt Moscow. That bit them in the butt when the Ukraine war started.

As far as destroying LGBT rights, that's not really been part of Trump's platform in the past. I'd be surprised if he did anything there.

SC justices, yeah, I could definitely see them getting paid off to retire and they'll get replaced. At the end of the day you're replacing two conservatives with conservatives though.

So all that is going to be really shitty? I think we'll be okay.

I think an effort at deportation will be made, it will just depend on how much money they want to throw at the problem. At the end of the day the damage is probably done, and there will be a lot of tax dollars spent assisting these people that crossed illegally. 

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Thank you for an actual response. I think you're being willfully ignorant about Putin's influence in the country and why Russia wanted desperately for Trump to be President. But we'll see.

Also, we both know what would actually put a real dent in illegal crossings: real, significant penalties to any company caught employing an illegal citizen. Why do you think it is that the GOP would never, ever vote for something like that?

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Posted
  On 11/6/2024 at 6:39 AM, Pancho said:

One problem for Dems is they keep thinking America is smarter than Americans really are. They keep thinking, thereโ€™s no way Americans will fall for Russian disinformation. And yet, Americans keep showing you THEY FALL FOR RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION!.

Iโ€™ve said it before and Iโ€™ll say it againโ€”Dems have to get younger. New names are needed. 

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Maybe America has just gotten too fucking stupid. 

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Posted
  On 11/6/2024 at 6:44 AM, InkaUtexas said:

Agree. And stop relying on star power. It really does not work. It is entertainment. We make fun of hulk hogan at trump rally's, but the message came from Miller and the gang. Yell louder, don't make sense, just stay on message. Push fear. Wonder where we heard that in history before.

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The fucking playbook.

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Posted
  On 11/6/2024 at 6:46 AM, Zepol87 said:
Of course you are but what about those on dialysis not as lucky to have your silver spoon? 

But he has "privatized" insurance through his wife. No problems. That shit is mostly free and doesn't cost anyone anything...
Posted
  On 11/6/2024 at 6:49 AM, Firemans4Horn said:


your wasting your breath. 

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I donโ€™t give a flying fuck. This is my life. You think I give two shits if typing to this unmitigated shitstain doesnโ€™t change his mind. Fuck anyone who thinks like he does and fuck anyone who forgives others for thinking that way too.

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Posted
  On 11/6/2024 at 6:48 AM, Spankytoes said:

Not my problem

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Glad you own it but myself and a couple family members went into debt for our family needed it 3 times a week for years. My grandpa was going through it 15 years ago and it was hell for our family financially. If I would have known you felt this way when I met you I would have beat the shit out of you. You are a shit person 

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Posted
  On 11/6/2024 at 6:39 AM, BurntOrange&White said:

Dems have to really rebrand and get stronger more aggressive messaging. Theyโ€™re bringing a knife to a gun fight in terms of average person perception. 

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Agreed, the average American intelligence has declined significantly and we need to adjust. More lights, more colors, more trans fear, more pandering to machismo Latinos. 

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Posted
  On 11/6/2024 at 6:41 AM, aggie08 said:

Unless they buy up a bunch of blatant propaganda outlets, not sure how it changes.

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Nah. Democrats are fighting wtf bronze against nukes. Now we can all be anti nuke but agree we can move from bronze through iron into steel gunpowder and beyond without nuking the planet. dems think rough is nuclear because that's how republicans act. 

and then democrats have their purity tests. THESE PEOPLE ARE FASCIST but my litmus paper turned red teacher fuck you

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  On 11/6/2024 at 6:51 AM, Biff Tannen said:

what the fuck man

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Thatโ€™s the whole crux of the maga movement: fuck you, I got mine. Itโ€™s not about creating a nation for everyone. Itโ€™s about grabbing as much as you can before it falls apart. 

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Posted (edited)
  On 11/6/2024 at 6:52 AM, aggie08 said:

Thank you for an actual response. I think you're being willfully ignorant about Putin's influence in the country and why Russia wanted desperately for Trump to be President. But we'll see.

Also, we both know what would actually put a real dent in illegal crossings: real, significant penalties to any company caught employing an illegal citizen. Why do you think it is that the GOP would never, ever vote for something like that?

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We'll see with Putin. I think Russia prefers chaos and sees Trump as the more divisive, which is good for them. On the other hand, Putin obviously hasn't feared Biden or Obama when it comes to involvement in the Ukraine invasions.

Truth, farmers would get hit most hard probably if the labor dried up. For that reason GOP probably won't significantly penalize employers using illegal labor.

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