Surly Horns Official 🇺🇸 2024 Election Day 🇺🇸

[UpperWestside 6,067]

43 minutes ago, immamac said:

This is exactly what I see. 

This is exactly who we are and who we have been as a country for far too long. We chose being selfish over the greater good. AGAIN. Historically this does not end well for countries that choose this path.

The country that simultaneously fought a world war on the continent of Europe and over thousands and thousands of miles in the great expanse of the Pacific Ocean for the greater good just gave the middle finger to all of those brave soldiers who fought for a better future 8 decades ago. This is shameful and embarrassing to see what we are collectively.

[immamac 42,259]

Just now, royiv said:

If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. Enjoy laboring over your tailgates and NIL shit for these assholes on the football board.

Oh I'm pretty much done with all that shit. 

[NaTeWHO 840]

2 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

The MSNBC denial is something else. It fucking is what it is.

Propaganda gonna propaganda.

[Biff Tannen 45,362]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

Also too soon or can we talk about how much of a colossal waste of money this Harris campaign was? Trumps too. 

How deeply moronic. 

Yeah, that'll save us.  Campaign Finance Reform 2028!

[David Dennison 18,173]

Just now, immamac said:

Oh I'm pretty much done with all that shit. 

Shit just got real.

[TwiceHorn 30,914]

Look, Project 2025 is some scary shit.  The first thing it calls for is loyalists to replace civil servants, Trump did that before and he'll do it again in earnest.  Regardless of what he says (lies) about Project 2025.

Although he demands loyalty, he's a shitty, shitty judge of who is going to be loyal to him.  And he's going to have to delegate that to others.  People like JD Vance that are a lot smarter than he is and for whom loyalty to Trump will take a back seat to loyalty to the program, which is some fucked up repugnant shit.

 

[McCroskey 1,461]

Also too soon or can we talk about how much of a colossal waste of money this Harris campaign was? Trumps too. 
How deeply moronic. 

She never should have been the candidate. Like ever.

[Hank_Hill 18,127]

2 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

If your wife is sleeping soundly she’ll be doing the same in 4 years. Gonna be fine. Be an adult.

Maybe don’t tell other people how to process things of actual significance within their household. You can “its whatever dude” this in your own life all you want. 

[tx 3 putt 75,804]

5 minutes ago, Captain Obvious said:

Regarding item #3, we're just doing our due diligence in terms of quality control testing.  Gotta make sure our system is built to last.

 

R's will have control legislative, executive, and judicial branches, where the check and balance ?

[Pancho 43,923]

Either this country is telling ourselves we don’t ever want a Black Woman president or Dems need the best Black pastor in America (TD Jakes) to do an intervention. 

 

 

[Yev Kassem 1,019]

4 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Biden didn't give them many options. Biden had absolutely zero shot post the debate (and probably similar before the debate, if we're being honest). Seriously, imagine him having to come out and speak in front of crowds on a regular basis down the stretch of this campaign. His cratered approval was going to start any replacement candidate in a hole. They chose what seemed to be the least shitty option. It is what it is.

Totally agree. But throwing the baby out with the bath water just to try and force an already unpopular VP down the electorate’s throat was too much to overcome. 

Shapiro was the way and he was overlooked by forces that clearly grossly miscalculated where the American electorate stood. 

[McCroskey 1,461]

Maybe don’t tell other people how to process things of actual significance within their household. You can “its whatever dude” this in your own life all you want. 

Bet you whatever amount of money you want you’ll be fine and the same as today in 4 years.

[MissingInAction 24,650]

It's ok.

We have each other.

[McCroskey 1,461]

8 years ago was the end of times.

4 years ago was the redemption.

4 years from now will be whatever.

Goddamn why are people so stupid.

[David Dennison 18,173]

2 minutes ago, Yev Kassem said:

Totally agree. But throwing the baby out with the bath water just to try and force an already unpopular VP down the electorate’s throat was too much to overcome. 

Shapiro was the way and he was overlooked by forces that clearly grossly miscalculated where the American electorate stood. 

You really think this country is ready to elect a Jewish president?

[aggie08 20,981]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

It was obviously elder abuse after the debate. It should have never gotten to that point. 

I absolutely whiffed on that one. There were more than a handful on the D side brave enough to sound the alarm months (years?) ago. I talked myself into the power of the incumbent (with tanking approval and a perceived terrible economy?), and SOTU speeches not being a complete disaster. 

His legacy is going to be much, much worse than what his accomplishments actually were. Didn't run in 2016 when he would have won handily. Didn't leave with nearly enough time in 2024 for a full process.

 

[Captain Obvious 516]

1 minute ago, MissingInAction said:

It's ok.

We have each other.

...the meteor is sure taking its sweet time.  It needs to pick up the pace or there won't be anything left to destroy.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 12,952]

8 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Biden didn't give them many options.

There wasn’t writing on the wall that he was no longer capable, it was a lit up banner being flown around the world. The failure was long before any debate took place. 

[David Dennison 18,173]

Just now, McCroskey said:

8 years ago was the end of times.

4 years ago was the redemption.

4 years from now will be whatever.

Goddamn why are people so stupid.

A lot of marginalized people are going to suffer under this administration. 

[Hank_Hill 18,127]

1 minute ago, McCroskey said:

Bet you whatever amount of money you want you’ll be fine and the same as today in 4 years.

I’m a white male doctor with millions of dollars in central Texas property via trust. No shit I’ll be fine in this version of America. Some people think beyond the scope of our own privilege.

[immamac 42,259]

Knock it the fuck off. 

[MissingInAction 24,650]

1 minute ago, MissingInAction said:

It's ok.

We have each other.

I'm not joking

It's the only way.

I'll be at 45th lamar Chili's tomorrow.

Come on out

[Michael Knight 12,828]

Just now, aggie08 said:

I absolutely whiffed on that one. There were more than a handful on the D side brave enough to sound the alarm months (years?) ago. I talked myself into the power of the incumbent (with tanking approval and a perceived terrible economy?), and SOTU speeches not being a complete disaster. 

His legacy is going to be much, much worse than what his accomplishments actually were. Didn't run in 2016 when he would have won handily. Didn't leave with nearly enough time in 2024 for a full process.

 

Theres still time for him to save us all and stage a coup

[McCroskey 1,461]

Go back and quote me motherfucker. I said what the drugs cost, I never said I pay that right now. That’s the whole fucking point of insurance you fucking cum stain asshole. I’d been working and paying for years before I got diagnosed, and now it’s on insurance to make sure I can afford not to die and feed my kids. What the fuck do you want me to do? Just give up and die u see a Trump administration? Again…fuck you. 

What makes you so special? My insurance dropped coverage for my kids to see their pediatrician this year and we have to start finding a new doctor next year.

Maybe, just maybe, it’s the system that’s fucked. Politicians are worthless.

[David Dennison 18,173]

1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

I’m a white male doctor with millions of dollars in central Texas property via trust. No shit I’ll be fine in this version of America. Some people think beyond the scope of our own privilege.

Niiiiiiiiice humble brag.

[McCroskey 1,461]

I’m a white male doctor with millions of dollars in central Texas property via trust. No shit I’ll be fine in this version of America. Some people think beyond the scope of our own privilege.

But your wife will have trouble sleeping?

[NaTeWHO 840]

3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Either this country is telling ourselves we don’t ever want a Black Woman president or Dems need the best Black pastor in America (TD Jakes) to do an intervention. 

 

 

Or... it had nothing to do with race. Probably just the women thing then.

[McCroskey 1,461]

I’m a white male doctor with millions of dollars in central Texas property via trust. No shit I’ll be fine in this version of America. Some people think beyond the scope of our own privilege.

Think beyond it all you want. Face reality. We and everyone else are gonna be fine in 4 years.

[royiv 9,072]

8 minutes ago, immamac said:

Also too soon or can we talk about how much of a colossal waste of money this Harris campaign was? Trumps too. 

How deeply moronic. 

I mean it’s a conversation that we should have been having for many years. We waste billions on election propaganda every year with an added windfall for media companies every presidential cycle. It’s a colossal waste of money and just makes us all dumber and dumber.

[GhostOfTomJoad 9,263]

1 minute ago, McCroskey said:

But your wife will have trouble sleeping?

I ignored your earlier flippant remark. Now you may kindly go fuck your own face.

[UTHornFan014 710]

Good news guys! MSNBC just projected Minnesota and New Jersey to Kamala!

[TwiceHorn 30,914]

1 minute ago, McCroskey said:

What makes you so special? My insurance dropped coverage for my kids to see their pediatrician this year and we have to start finding a new doctor next year.

Maybe, just maybe, it’s the system that’s fucked. Politicians are worthless.

Having to find a new doctor pales in comparison to losing anything resembling affordable healthcare.

Some politicians are more worthless than others.  Some will try to solve healthcare problems, others will come up with concepts of a plan  . . . in two weeks.

[Captain Obvious 516]

4 minutes ago, Yev Kassem said:

Totally agree. But throwing the baby out with the bath water just to try and force an already unpopular VP down the electorate’s throat was too much to overcome. 

Shapiro was the way and he was overlooked by forces that clearly grossly miscalculated where the American electorate stood. 

Pushing aside Harris for Shapiro almost certainly doesn't yield a different final result.  On a national scale, how many people really cared or knew about him before he was on the short list for VP?

[royiv 9,072]

Just now, McCroskey said:

Think beyond it all you want. Face reality. We and everyone else are gonna be fine in 4 years.

What will be better in 4 years in your opinion?

[Hank_Hill 18,127]

5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Niiiiiiiiice humble brag.

I’m drunk, I’m pissed, it’s all I have left tonight. My wife is also super hot if I haven’t mentioned that on this board before…

Edited yesterday at 08:05 AM by Hank_Hill

[McCroskey 1,461]

I ignored your earlier flippant remark. Now you may kindly go fuck your own face.

As long as your wife keeps sleeping. Don’t wake her up.

What will be better in 4 years in your opinion?

Never said better. I said we’ll be fine.

We’re resourceful and this shit ain’t gonna matter.

[Captain Obvious 516]

4 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

Theres still time for him to save us all and stage a coup

No coup necessary.  Just order the military to do stuff while he's still president in the interests of national security and he's completely in the clear according to SCOTUS.

[Frank The Tank 1,482]

2 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

What makes you so special? My insurance dropped coverage for my kids to see their pediatrician this year and we have to start finding a new doctor next year.

Maybe, just maybe, it’s the system that’s fucked. Politicians are worthless.

What makes me so special?  Not a goddamn thing. I’m just voting for my right to live. And be protected by the money I’ve paid and not be excluded by a condition I can’t fucking control or prevent. That’s the whole point. Trump’s administration virtually promises to do away with those protections. So you know…as far as I’m concerned, and for a million other reasons, fuck him and anyone who voted for him. 
Especially you and Stasney at this point. 
 

[Sawbonz 26,988]

2 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

Think beyond it all you want. Face reality. We and everyone else are gonna be fine in 4 years.

Except the women who die from miscarriages 

 

imagine dying from a miscarriage 

[C-Man 26,870]

What makes you so special? My insurance dropped coverage for my kids to see their pediatrician this year and we have to start finding a new doctor next year.

Maybe, just maybe, it’s the system that’s fucked. Politicians are worthless.

Not sure having to perhaps sweat a life-saving $30K/mo medication vs finding a new pediatrician for your kids is quite the same thing.

But, yes, health insurance in this country is fucked. Badly.

[royiv 9,072]

8 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

You really think this country is ready to elect a Jewish president?

They weren’t ready to even elect a Jewish First Gentleman.

[Valmy77 13,048]

3 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

Think beyond it all you want. Face reality. We and everyone else are gonna be fine in 4 years.

Well that's a pretty low bar. I thought you just said the whole system is fucked? So which is it? Fucked or fine?

[MrBig 5,215]

11 minutes ago, immamac said:

Also too soon or can we talk about how much of a colossal waste of money this Harris campaign was? Trumps too. 

How deeply moronic. 

Bringing JLo out to speak made me realize the campaign didn’t know shit about what the public wanted. People hate JLo now and her tour was canceled because of low ticket sales. Combine that with the fact JLo was extremely close to Diddy and got arrested for him when they were dating. Like WTF just read the room and stay far away from any Diddy adjacent people until the election is over. 

[C-Man 26,870]

I mean it’s a conversation that we should have been having for many years. We waste billions on election propaganda every year with an added windfall for media companies every presidential cycle. It’s a colossal waste of money and just makes us all dumber and dumber.

Saw a report that $400M was spent on Ohio senate race. Ridiculous. Same report said congressional and senate seats have become commodities to be bought and sold by Uber-wealthy Americans. Whole system is fucking grotesque.

[McCroskey 1,461]

Having to find a new doctor pales in comparison to losing anything resembling affordable healthcare.
Some politicians are more worthless than others.  Some will try to solve healthcare problems, others will come up with concepts of a plan  . . . in two weeks.

Our country has moved away from healthcare being affordable. Go get the treatment and if you don’t pay? Guess what, no repercussions.

Most all our politicians are worthless in this regard.

[royiv 9,072]

3 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

As long as your wife keeps sleeping. Don’t wake her up.
Never said better. I said we’ll be fine.

We’re resourceful and this shit ain’t gonna matter.

All of us? I’m going to go out on a limb that you’re pretty white and have a penis.

[McCroskey 1,461]

Except the women who die from miscarriages 
 
imagine dying from a miscarriage 

Yeah sure.

[David Dennison 18,173]

7 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

Think beyond it all you want. Face reality. We and everyone else are gonna be fine in 4 years.

Not everyone.

[aggie08 20,981]

6 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

8 years ago was the end of times.

4 years ago was the redemption.

4 years from now will be whatever.

Goddamn why are people so stupid.

So are you on "he's a liar" or "he's grossly incompetent" bandwagon as to why he won't be able to accomplish many of the fascist things he's blatantly stated?

No, I don't think democracy is ending, but to act like a Trump administration filled with exclusively hand-chosen unqualified loyalists this time around is just another political term is being incredibly naive. The checks and balances will probably hold. Hopefully. But people are absolutely going to die in the process. They already have (women dying of miscarriages, for starters). You and I will be mostly fine though. Cool.

[McCroskey 1,461]

Well that's a pretty low bar. I thought you just said the whole system is fucked? So which is it? Fucked or fine?

You are dense.

The system is fucked but we’re built to withstand it. Bet you whatever amount you want we’ll be in the same situation in 4 years and be just fine.