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[Scheiss Meister 8408]

I can't sleep.  Not because of what I expect to happen to my wife and me, but what a country we're leaving for my children.  My daughter moved to Oregon to get out of the misogynistic hell that is Texas so that she has access to sane medical care.  Now where will she go?  The economy that trump proposals will bring will prevent both she and my son from ever being able to do more than get by.  I have gay and trans family members who will now be subject to government harassment without protection.  I served in the Marine Corps to try to ensure that our country would be fair and free, just to see the electorate throw that all away.  Damn it all to hell.

[royiv 9326]

3 minutes ago, linux said:

The worst part is how people vote against their self interest, latino men gave this away, I have no fucking idea what is up or down anymore.

@McCroskey says it’s not a big deal. A few people vote against their self interest and those that catch a couple strays are just collateral damage.

[StassneyHorn 6616]

lol was Biden going to pick Julian Castro? He only knows white people Spanish
Cailtin Jenner can run for the Republican nomination in 2028 and win their nomination. EASILY

[ulukinatme 1764]

1 minute ago, Scheiss Meister said:

I can't sleep.  Not because of what I expect to happen to my wife and me, but what a country we're leaving for my children.  My daughter moved to Oregon to get out of the misogynistic hell that is Texas so that she has access to sane medical care.  Now where will she go?  The economy that trump proposals will bring will prevent both she and my son from ever being able to do more than get by.  I have gay and trans family members who will now be subject to government harassment without protection.  I served in the Marine Corps to try to ensure that our country would be fair and free, just to see the electorate throw that all away.  Damn it all to hell.

They're still here after 4 years of Trump. They'll still be here 4 years from now. Relax.

[Valmy77 13245]

46 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

8 years ago was the end of times.

4 years ago was the redemption.

4 years from now will be whatever.

Goddamn why are people so stupid.

I actually felt pretty good 8 years ago. 4 years ago was a shit show. Yes we got him out of office but what a nightmare.

And now he is back. So that sucks. And after his mob assaulted my cousin. So I took that a little personally.

And yeah it would be cool if four years from now something better happens.

But right now we are in the suck part. So it is what it is.

I am sure there is some zen way a smart person will feel about all of this and I am sure I am getting there. You seem very determined that everybody feel a certain way about things so maybe that will make you happy.

Nothing matters, detach yourself and go meditate or whatever.

[linux 1660]

Just now, ulukinatme said:

They're still here after 4 years of Trump. They'll still be here 4 years from now. Relax.

 

We banked on Trump incompetence to victory in 2020, Project 2025 is a legit competent path to dictatorship

[SarkAfterDark 1689]

I'm interested in finding out what went wrong here. Dems seemingly put in serious work on the ground for this campaign, raised more money, had more enthusiasm, better GOTV, a high number of R defections voting for her, women caring about Dobbs(allegedly), etc Was there anything they could have done better? For any misstep you can pin on Kamala's campaign efforts I can probably point out 5 for Trump. Yet her were are. Were we always headed to this conclusion as a nation because it's just who we are now?

 

Also looking at the results for the Texas races for President/Senate has me wondering if some people who told me they were voting a certain way actually did.

[royiv 9326]

2 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

I served in the Marine Corps to try to ensure that our country would be fair and free, just to see the electorate throw that all away.  Damn it all to hell.

Thank you for your service. That’s not cliché or meant facetiously tonight. I truly hope everything you served for will persevere into the future for many generations.

[Hank_Hill 18880]

1 minute ago, ulukinatme said:

They're still here after 4 years of Trump. They'll still be here 4 years from now. Relax.

Their rights have been aggressively infringed upon in 1 Trump regime. Telling people to relax at the thought of another ???? years is reductionist bullshit.

[ulukinatme 1764]

Just now, linux said:

 

We banked on Trump incompetence to victory in 2020, Project 2025 is a legit competent path to dictatorship

Project 2025 is some fear mongering to get you riled up. It can't hurt you anymore.

[Hank_Hill 18880]

2 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

I actually felt pretty good 8 years ago. 4 years ago was a shit show. Yes we got him out of office but what a nightmare.

And now he is back. So that sucks. And after his mob assaulted my cousin. So I took that a little personally.

And yeah it would be cool if four years from now something better happens.

But right now we are in the suck part. So it is what it is.

I am sure there is some zen way a smart person will feel about all of this and I am sure I am getting there. You seem very determined that everybody feel a certain way about things so maybe that will make you happy.

Nothing matters, detach yourself and go meditate or whatever.

We’re just a blue speck of sand in the ocean of the universe so fuck it, right? 

[Scheiss Meister 8408]

Just now, ulukinatme said:

They're still here after 4 years of Trump. They'll still be here 4 years from now. Relax.

Relax?  Fuck you.  They and many others are going to suffer needlessly, and you say relax?  My wife and I are looking at losing our Social Security and Medicare, and you say relax?  My 93 year old dad is looking at losing his SS and Medicare.  Relax?  Fuck you.  You obviously don't give a shit about anyone else.

[royiv 9326]

1 minute ago, SarkAfterDark said:

I'm interested in finding out what went wrong here. Dems seemingly put in serious work on the ground for this campaign, raised more money, had more enthusiasm, better GOTV, a high number of R defections voting for her, women caring about Dobbs(allegedly), etc Was there anything they could have done better? For any misstep you can pin on Kamala's campaign efforts I can probably point out 5 for Trump. Yet her were are. Were we always headed to this conclusion as a nation because it's just who we are now?

 

Also looking at the results for the Texas races for President/Senate has me wondering if some people who told me they were voting a certain way actually did.

This country is deeply misogynistic. Look no further than the football board to see how many mouth breathers roam free in polite society.

[Valmy77 13245]

2 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

I'm interested in finding out what went wrong here. Dems seemingly put in serious work on the ground for this campaign, raised more money, had more enthusiasm, better GOTV, a high number of R defections voting for her, women caring about Dobbs(allegedly), etc Was there anything they could have done better? For any misstep you can pin on Kamala's campaign efforts I can probably point out 5 for Trump. Yet her were are. Were we always headed to this conclusion as a nation because it's just who we are now?

That is how I see it dude. This result kind of shows me what sort of country this is.

But I should relax and not care about anything I guess according to the posters here.  And granted that is pretty much what I was planning to do anyway for awhile. I feared this and I guess I am glad the whole traumatic shitshow of this election is over.

[ulukinatme 1764]

1 minute ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Relax?  Fuck you.  They and many others are going to suffer needlessly, and you say relax?  My wife and I are looking at losing our Social Security and Medicare, and you say relax?  My 93 year old dad is looking at losing his SS and Medicare.  Relax?  Fuck you.  You obviously don't give a shit about anyone else.

Nobody is taking your Social Security and Medicare. This is more fear mongering.

[linux 1660]

2 minutes ago, ulukinatme said:

Project 2025 is some fear mongering to get you riled up. It can't hurt you anymore.

I study history it is a legit path to dictatorship, peremanent Trump rule

[StassneyHorn 6616]

4 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

I'm interested in finding out what went wrong here. Dems seemingly put in serious work on the ground for this campaign, raised more money, had more enthusiasm, better GOTV, a high number of R defections voting for her, women caring about Dobbs(allegedly), etc Was there anything they could have done better? 

Being old and white helps alot outside of a D primary

[David Dennison 18923]

1 minute ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Relax?  Fuck you.  They and many others are going to suffer needlessly, and you say relax?  My wife and I are looking at losing our Social Security and Medicare, and you say relax?  My 93 year old dad is looking at losing his SS and Medicare.  Relax?  Fuck you.  You obviously don't give a shit about anyone else.

They aren't dumb enough to touch the SS and Medicare of current recipients. 

Future recipients? We'll see.

[ulukinatme 1764]

4 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Their rights have been aggressively infringed upon in 1 Trump regime. Telling people to relax at the thought of another ???? years is reductionist bullshit.

When did Trump pass the Aggressive Anti-LGBT Rights Act? Must have missed that during his first term.

[Scheiss Meister 8408]

Just now, ulukinatme said:

Nobody is taking your Social Security and Medicare. This is more fear mongering.

More "He doesn't really mean it." bullshit.  He's said it, and now he'll do it.

[Scheiss Meister 8408]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

They aren't dumb enough to touch the SS and Medicare of current recipients. 

Future recipients? We'll see.

Hide in a corner and watch.

[linux 1660]

Just now, StassneyHorn said:

Being old and white helps alot outside of a D primary

I hate young voters I really really do, its not their fault of course they could turn out like 65+ but they are such a tiny minority demographically, we needed a white guy as a candidate.

[David Dennison 18923]

1 minute ago, linux said:

I study history it is a legit path to dictatorship, peremanent Trump rule

The cynic in me is extremely skeptical of this, mainly because there's way too much money to be made within the current system of American democracy. 

[Hank_Hill 18880]

1 minute ago, ulukinatme said:

Nobody is taking your Social Security and Medicare. This is more fear mongering.

A good amount of Germans also dismissed what a political party was saying straight to their fucking face as fear mongering. 

[linux 1660]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

The cynic in me is extremely skeptical of this, mainly because there's way too much money to be made within the current system of American democracy. 

There is way more money to be made in permanent dictatorship see Musk

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13117]

40 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Is CNN gonna stop fucking around and just call this thing?

And end people’s F5ing on their website?

[Hank_Hill 18880]

5 minutes ago, ulukinatme said:

When did Trump pass the Aggressive Anti-LGBT Rights Act? Must have missed that during his first term.

Um, I’m talking about his daughter you fucking idiot. 

[David Dennison 18923]

1 minute ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Hide in a corner and watch.

He can't do it by himself and the people who have to help him do it run for re-election every two years.

By all means, run on taking benefits away from seniors.

[ulukinatme 1764]

5 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

More "He doesn't really mean it." bullshit.  He's said it, and now he'll do it.

He's campaigned on no cuts to Medicare or Social Security. He's not removing pre-existing conditions. You've been fed propaganda.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/31/fact-check-would-trump-slash-social-security-and-medicare

[StassneyHorn 6616]

3 minutes ago, linux said:

I hate young voters I really really do, its not their fault of course they could turn out like 65+ but they are such a tiny minority demographically, we needed a white guy as a candidate.

It has to be Newsom. Get on stage and talk about Jr's girl

[linux 1660]

2 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

It has to be Newsom. Get on stage and talk about Jr's girl

I did I thought of Newsom, seriously fuck Joe Biden I have never hated a supposed ally so damn much, he was soft and he anointed Kamala

Edited November 6 by linux

[David Dennison 18923]

3 minutes ago, linux said:

There is way more money to be made in permanent dictatorship see Musk

Under which dictatorship did Elon Musk make his fortune?

[linux 1660]

Just now, David Dennison said:

Under which dictatorship did Elon Musk make his fortune?

The meme stock economy, it is the future of the Nasdaq my man.

[Valmy77 13245]

4 minutes ago, ulukinatme said:

He's campaigned on no cuts to Medicare or Social Security. He's not removing pre-existing conditions. You've been fed propaganda.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/31/fact-check-would-trump-slash-social-security-and-medicare

We are aware of that. 

[ulukinatme 1764]

4 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Um, I’m talking about his daughter you fucking idiot. 

Friend, I was responding to Scheiss first when you butted in. Hence the plural reference to their LGBT family members. It's not always about you.

[David Dennison 18923]

So, how's the House looking? That might be important.

[linux 1660]

Trump wanted to end obamacare and McCain stopped him in the senate, who is stopping him now?

[StassneyHorn 6616]

6 minutes ago, linux said:

I did I thought of Newsom, seriously fuck Joe Biden I have never hated a supposed ally so damn much, he was soft and he anointed Kamala

What is this shit? that was Nancy being puppetmaster behind the scenes

[linux 1660]

Just now, StassneyHorn said:

What is this shit? that was Nancy being puppetmaster behind the scenes

By then it was too late, picking a woman VP was the first disaster, being soft on MAGA was disaster #2

[scottsins 1968]

9 minutes ago, ulukinatme said:

He's campaigned on no cuts to Medicare or Social Security. He's not removing pre-existing conditions. You've been fed propaganda.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/31/fact-check-would-trump-slash-social-security-and-medicare

Is he going to impose the tariffs that he has promised on the scale that he has committed to?

is RFK Jr going to be running various health agencies like we have heard?  The guy who believes in chemtrail bullshit and is old school anti-vax?

[ulukinatme 1764]

10 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

It has to be Newsom. Get on stage and talk about Jr's girl

Need a charismatic Midwestern type that appeals to the swing states. Another California progressive probably doesn't fly. Shapiro might work.

[linux 1660]

Just now, ulukinatme said:

Need a charismatic Midwestern type that appeals to the swing states. Another California progressive probably doesn't fly. Shapiro might work.

He is jewish so a no go, maybe Roy Cooper 

[Hank_Hill 18880]

Just now, linux said:

He is jewish so a no go. 

Palestine is going to be a parking lot in 4 years now so this doesn’t really matter. 

[linux 1660]

Just now, Hank_Hill said:

Palestine is going to be a parking lot in 4 years now so this doesn’t really matter. 

You are assuming the Soros controls the weather party is what makes him the no go.

[Hank_Hill 18880]

7 minutes ago, ulukinatme said:

Friend, I was responding to Scheiss first when you butted in. Hence the plural reference to their LGBT family members. It's not always about you.

You quoted me, fuck face (read: friend)

[royiv 9326]

@immamacnew booze sponsors for your tailgates?

[Valmy77 13245]

7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

So, how's the House looking? That might be important.

Doesn't look great to me. It would be weird to gain seats in a blowout like this. Looks like we are somehow going to lose Nebraska-2 again.

But awhile to go on that one.

[David Dennison 18923]

8 minutes ago, linux said:

Trump wanted to end obamacare and McCain stopped him in the senate, who is stopping him now?

Ironically, probably the insurance lobby.

[Valmy77 13245]

Just now, David Dennison said:

Ironically, probably the insurance lobby.

Corruption is just going to save the whole system isn't it? Huh.

[linux 1660]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Ironically, probably the insurance lobby.

Why would they not back the removal of preexisting conditions?

Edited November 6 by linux