Surly Horns Official 🇺🇸 2024 Election Day 🇺🇸

[Captainant 27990]

1 minute ago, Incredulity said:

Huh, I thought 

 

Alvin Bragg should probably be bigly concerned right now.

Go get your tiki torch and put on your brown shirt! You're gonna get the chance to see your political enemies punished for their speech!

[boilerhorn 1451]

NSIAP - she only got 78% in Philadelphia.  Lowest I can find - Kerry got 80% in 2004.
FAR fewer votes than Biden.

D's need to do a post mortem on this and craft a good plan for 2026.  Like it or not, it's clear Harris was not a good candidate.  And that die was cast in 2020, when she was chosen as the de facto successor to Biden.  Biden chose to step down too late.  etc.  And, her plans did not resonate with voters.  SMH.

 

[4th&Five 41710]

Or maybe she’s just a woman of color and that is a bridge too far for most of this country. 

[Hookah Horns 3083]

3 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

 Because people generally can't connect the dots like that. I don't blame people for feeling economic pain, blaming whoever is in power, and voting accordingly. It's what we do. 

I blame people for being dumbasses who can't connect dots. Don't give people a pass for stupidity. Very little of the economy at any given time has been influenced in any way by the current president, and it's an intellectually lazy way to decide how to vote. 

[immamac 43585]

This was a complete domination. Republicans have the house, senate, courts and executive in a popular vote. That means more people around you want this.  

If you don't like what that means that's a you problem. Stop blaming everyone else for how they voted. You have a problem with everyone around yourself. Solve that problem or don't. 

A lot of people in here are pearl clutching and all talk. If you don't like it, turn off the government's revenue and quit your job working for whoever. If you want to show them how ruined the economy is under Trump ruin the economy around yourself first. If you are truly principled and have courage to fight for what you believe make a plan now on how you will be a part of the peaceful revolution and do it when Trump is president. Brain drain, lack of workers to do work, industrial collapse and stagnation are all things that are possible if everyone decided they've had enough without bloodshed that force a hard reset. There is no soft landing that includes an America that still has Billionaires that are so rich they make other billionaires look poor. All you have to do is be willing to give up everything to build it all back after the revolution. 

The reality is none of you have had enough to get to this point. There are posters here who lament billionaires, policies that support incingruent behavior with their beliefs and yet still take their paycheck every month from companies and the people that run them that ARE THE FUCKING PROBLEM. You all praise the same capitalist principles and when faced with the reality of personal sacrifice or economic impact everyone is doing the same thing, just working and trying to say your work doesn't contribute to the problem why shouldn't you be able to make money. YOU ARE ENTITLES TO YOUR AMERICAN LIFESTYLE.  

This is what happens to people when nothing is more important than money. You lose the ability of accountability because you are desperately attached in a symbiotic relationship with the American Rot Economy. 

I've put my money where my mouth is. I left a job that paid an obscene amount of money in industry to forge a path for myself based on principles I believe in and actually giving a shit about moving the economy, technology and people forward and upward instead of just grifting and accepting my share of the ransack. You know what I've found since? That no one cares, no one believes in American Innovation anymore, no one believes in doing the right thing because it's too hard. Its a lot easier to just shut the fuck up, and do what the bosses tell you even though you know it adds no value or is damaging to your customers or the broader economy. 

Ive found that greed and equity markets are at all time highs. The American Consumer is addicted to its debt fueled spending mania. The real reason things are the way they are is peoples addiction to late stage rot economy. You don't need a visionary leader to live that kind of life.

A strong majority of people on this site can't even be bothered to pay for it. I pour immense amounts of time, money and effort into community building, yet the community insists on destroying itself. What's the point?

 

[Incredulity 11717]

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

Go get your tiki torch and put on your brown shirt! You're gonna get the chance to see your political enemies punished for their speech!

The dildo of karma rarely arrives lubed.

The Bragg prosecution was absurd.

Philly delivered again.

[aggie08 21592]

2 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

I blame people for being dumbasses who can't connect dots. Don't give people a pass for stupidity. Very little of the economy at any given time has been influenced in any way by the current president, and it's an intellectually lazy way to decide how to vote. 

I don't disagree with any of this. But here we are.

[Pig Bellmont 8769]

3 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Or maybe she’s just a woman of color and that is a bridge too far for most of this country. 

I find this more reassuring than believing a majority of people in this country voted in favor of detention camps

[JBJ 3694]

6 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

Yeah this was a legitimate red wave.  I am sure everyone will learn the right lessons from it, too.

Nah.  It was because the democrats were too nice and the policies too scientific.  😏

[aggie08 21592]

Is immamac telling us all to quit our jobs in retaliation?

[dcbc 14570]

9 minutes ago, Captainant said:

The real kicker is gonna be as the justice system swings from uncertain inaction to straight weaponization and extremely fast prosecutions of trumps "enemies of the people", all driven by the fomer delayers. 

I hope you're able to throw some sand in those gears from your position in public service, and not be harnessed to its purpose 

I'll be surprised if anything like that ends up in our court, and more surprised if we don't do anything but follow the law.  But I assure you, my retirement has fully vested, and my passport soon will be renewed.  I will not facilitate evil.

[Incredulity 11717]

1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

Is immamac telling us all to quit our jobs in retaliation?

[immamac 43585]

Just now, aggie08 said:

Is immamac telling us all to quit our jobs in retaliation?

I'm telling you to make a real fucking plan if you think this is that bad or shut the fuck up and try to limit the impact around you with your own subsidy out of your own pocket.

No one is coming to save you, you just save yourself, the American way. 

[Hefeweizen 5361]

Just to be clear, I voted all blue down the line.  I just understand that my opinion is the minority.  By a lot.  The choice we have is to work with it or give up and leave.  I think I’m just going to ride it out in my quiet corner of the country.  I’m going to get everything set up for a quick exit just in case though.

[David Dennison 19131]

12 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

Yeah this was a legitimate red wave.  I am sure everyone will learn the right lessons from it, too.

It's clear the Democratic Party must triangulate better.

[cabowabo 4578]

5 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Or maybe she’s just a woman of color and that is a bridge too far for most of this country. 

Oh for fuck's sake.  It had nothing to do with her sex or color and everything to do with her policies and constant bobbing and weaving on issues.  She would not answer basic questions to the American public.  She wouldn't even take a position on Prop 36 (Anti-Crime Proposition), a proposition that was approved by 70% of voters in the Peoples Republic of California. 

[Deej 77238]

7 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Is immamac telling us all to quit our jobs in retaliation?

And become one with nature

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19246]

20 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

Yeah this was a legitimate red wave.  I am sure everyone will learn the right lessons from it, too.

What, that the American electorate is hateful and stupid? 

[Incredulity 11717]

3 minutes ago, Deej said:

And become one with nature

[Celery Man 21028]

[MrBig 5509]

The Dems miscalculated that if you run on the principle of preserving democracy, maybe you shouldn’t run with a candidate who back doored their way into the nomination. 

[troph 24929]

19 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Or maybe she’s just a woman of color and that is a bridge too far for most of this country. 

that and the "economy" is pretty much it. dems need to go back to middle aged white guys to run for president.

[SimonBolivar 10961]

13 minutes ago, immamac said:

I'm telling you to make a real fucking plan if you think this is that bad or shut the fuck up and try to limit the impact around you with your own subsidy out of your own pocket.

No one is coming to save you, you just save yourself, the American way. 

Sir, this is America. It is our God given right, nay our God given obligation, to complain and do fuck all about it.

[Incredulity 11717]

1 minute ago, MrBig said:

The Dems miscalculated that if you run on the principle of preserving democracy, maybe you shouldn’t run with a candidate who back doored their way into the nomination. 

[David Dennison 19131]

5 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

What, that the American electorate is hateful and stupid? 

No, you see, it's that Democrats need to be more like Republicans.

As is tradition.

Just now, SimonBolivar said:

Sir, this is America. It is our God given right, nay our God given obligation, to complain and do fuck all about it.

This guy gets it.

[Texzilla58 4745]

The Dem mainstream made huge errors.  Look at the state initiatives.  In every case Voter ID initiatives passed with huge margins, don in the 80’s, which is unheard of.  A ton of Harris voters want this.  The lack of Dem backbone to support voter ID like every other nation has imbued a huge lack of trust.  How do you not support the law?  
 

same with illegal immigration  and border security.  Dems have mistaken border security as an antiimmgration which alienates lots of legal immigrants who did it right.  Most folks want increased legal immigration.  
 

dems failed to see that their key constituents are the ones suffering the most from inflation, increased rents, and lagging wages.  They want real solutions and Dems are too busy embracing Palestinians, trans folks, and Ukrainians.  She was a terrible candidate as she was an unpopular VP among a lot of Dems.  She lost ground with every key Dem demographic.  She failed to increase a vote in any county vs Biden.  Has zero to do with her being a woman, her race, etc.  she lost because she’s out of touch.

[Fudge Nuggets 19285]

1 hour ago, Hefeweizen said:

The media ironically may be early to the leopard face eating party.

[Chuckie Finster 22784]

Oh for fuck's sake.  It had nothing to do with her sex or color and everything to do with her policies and constant bobbing and weaving on issues.  She would not answer basic questions to the American public.  She wouldn't even take a position on Prop 36 (Anti-Crime Proposition), a proposition that was approved by 70% of voters in the Peoples Republic of California. 

There is nothing she could have done that would have won your vote.

[Pancho 45527]

How did 19 million people decide not to vote this year?

His rallies were empty

[closetohumping 17552]

Don narrowed the gap in California from 29 to 17.  I think he flipped Orange County.   Damn

[Fudge Nuggets 19285]

6 hours ago, immamac said:

Also too soon or can we talk about how much of a colossal waste of money this Harris campaign was? Trumps too. 

How deeply moronic. 

I want my $25 back.

[Pancho 45527]

16 minutes ago, cabowabo said:

Oh for fuck's sake.  It had nothing to do with her sex or color and everything to do with her policies and constant bobbing and weaving on issues.  She would not answer basic questions to the American public.  She wouldn't even take a position on Prop 36 (Anti-Crime Proposition), a proposition that was approved by 70% of voters in the Peoples Republic of California. 

It was her race and gender. You don’t want to admit that because you know how it looks.

 

I’ve told this website before that parts of the Longhorn fan base are no different from A&M. This is one of the examples. 

[Captainant 27990]

4 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

same with illegal immigration  and border security.  Dems have mistaken border security as an antiimmgration which alienates lots of legal immigrants who did it right.  Most folks want increased legal immigration.  

The last big bill was spiked BY REPUBLICANS, just so they could campaign against it this election. Do you acknowledge their responsibility in stopping the last bills passage?

5 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

dems failed to see that their key constituents are the ones suffering the most from inflation, increased rents, and lagging wages.  They want real solutions and Dems are too busy embracing Palestinians, trans folks, and Ukrainians.  She was a terrible candidate as she was an unpopular VP among a lot of Dems.  She lost ground with every key Dem demographic.  She failed to increase a vote in any county vs Biden.  Has zero to do with her being a woman, her race, etc.  she lost because she’s out of touch.

I'm not sure how trump will make any of those things better, but I guess we will all get to enjoy this shit show together

[cabowabo 4578]

5 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

There is nothing she could have done that would have won your vote.

My vote is not why she got her ass kicked last night.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19246]

4 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Don narrowed the gap in California from 29 to 17.  I think he flipped Orange County.   Damn

I think Orange County went red in 2016. It definitely did prior to that. A lot of rich, white people on the coast.

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

It was her race and gender. You don’t want to admit that because you know how it looks.

 

I’ve told this website before that parts of the Longhorn fan base are no different from A&M. This is one of the examples. 

This.  And I would say it was her gender first. There are a lot of misogynists that post on this board.  

[David Dennison 19131]

1 minute ago, cabowabo said:

My vote is not why she got her ass kicked last night.

And it won't be why Republicans get their asses kicked the next time they lose.

 

[Frank Drebin 5694]

6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

How did 19 million people decide not to vote this year?

His rallies were empty

Less ballot harvesting since no Covid?

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19246]

2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

The last big bill was spiked BY REPUBLICANS, just so they could campaign against it this election. Do you acknowledge their responsibility in stopping the last bills passage?

I'm not sure how trump will make any of those things better, but I guess we will all get to enjoy this shit show together

He won't. In fact, if they put their plans into place, crashing the US economy like Elon said they would, then things will get a lot worse for a whole lot of people. But they are too fucking stupid to understand what is at stake economically. 

Just wait until mass deportations and see what THAT does to the price of fucking eggs and milk. Idiots.

[Aqua Buddha 14660]

1 hour ago, Frank Drebin said:

I have a house there.  Spend summers there.  Tester is a morbidly obese slob who votes with Schumer 99.9 percent of the time.  Sheehy will vote in line with what Montanans want. 

I'm not wrong, though.  All of their state wide people are millionaire cosplay cowboys.

[Chuckie Finster 22784]

My vote is not why she got her ass kicked last night.

Correct, but there are tens of millions of people like yourself who were voting red no matter what this year, and retroactively trying to reconcile that with candidate choice is a waste of time for everyone involved.

[aggie08 21592]

6 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

The Dem mainstream made huge errors.  Look at the state initiatives.  In every case Voter ID initiatives passed with huge margins, don in the 80’s, which is unheard of.  A ton of Harris voters want this.  The lack of Dem backbone to support voter ID like every other nation has imbued a huge lack of trust.  How do you not support the law?  
 

same with illegal immigration  and border security.  Dems have mistaken border security as an antiimmgration which alienates lots of legal immigrants who did it right.  Most folks want increased legal immigration.  
 

dems failed to see that their key constituents are the ones suffering the most from inflation, increased rents, and lagging wages.  They want real solutions and Dems are too busy embracing Palestinians, trans folks, and Ukrainians.  She was a terrible candidate as she was an unpopular VP among a lot of Dems.  She lost ground with every key Dem demographic.  She failed to increase a vote in any county vs Biden.  Has zero to do with her being a woman, her race, etc.  she lost because she’s out of touch.

I don't necessary disagree with any of this, though you certainly take a lot of liberties. But then how a moderate can turn around and convince themselves that Trump is "in touch" is way beyond me.

There's a double standard for Democrat and Republic candidates, and I suspect that's not likely to go away.

[Texasborn91 992]

7 minutes ago, Pancho said:

It was her race and gender. You don’t want to admit that because you know how it looks.

 

I’ve told this website before that parts of the Longhorn fan base are no different from A&M. This is one of the examples. 

Playing the race card is weak. She was a terrible candidate that got 100 days to campaign. She wasn’t going to win bc she was behind the 8 ball from the get go 

[Aqua Buddha 14660]

3 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I think Orange County went red in 2016. It definitely did prior to that. A lot of rich, white people on the coast.

This.  And I would say it was her gender first. There are a lot of misogynists that post on this board.  

This.  No one in the media will say it gender was a factor.  (Not THE factor.)  There is misogyny across the political spectrum.  The Hillary people said in 2016 it was a 3-5 point drag and that's a big deal in a national race.  There are voters out there who voted for a great male candidate in Obama, an unknown candidate in Trump, a mediocre candidate in Biden, and a crazy candidate in Trump.  The only variable is gender.  

[EuroHorn 3277]

38 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Go get your tiki torch and put on your brown shirt! You're gonna get the chance to see your political enemies punished for their speech!

 

5 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

This.  And I would say it was her gender first. There are a lot of misogynists that post on this board.

The beatings will continue until morale is improved….

[David Dennison 19131]

4 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

He won't. In fact, if they put their plans into place, crashing the US economy like Elon said they would, then things will get a lot worse for a whole lot of people. But they are too fucking stupid to understand what is at stake economically. 

Just wait until mass deportations and see what THAT does to the price of fucking eggs and milk. Idiots.

If any of that happens, Democrats win the mid-terms and 2028.

 

 

 

[GreenspointTexas 9880]

Jesus yall are giving the average voter wayyyyy too much credit. the average voter doesnt follow “the dems did this” or “the GOP did that.”

 

people voted based on two things:

1) their wallet (read:cost of goods)

2) people in this country just dont want a woman in charge, let alone a mixed race half black one

 

 

It has nothing to do with “so and so didnt hit this issue hard enough,” or “they shoulda campaigned more in this state.” 

 

[Pancho 45527]

1 minute ago, Texasborn91 said:

Playing the race card is weak. She was a terrible candidate that got 100 days to campaign. She wasn’t going to win bc she was behind the 8 ball from the get go 

It was her race and gender. Not admitting that is weak. 

[immamac 43585]

Just now, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

He won't. In fact, if they put their plans into place, crashing the US economy like Elon said they would, then things will get a lot worse for a whole lot of people. But they are too fucking stupid to understand what is at stake economically. 

Just wait until mass deportations and see what THAT does to the price of fucking eggs and milk. Idiots.

I think you are in a bit of a mania right now and you need to focus on yourself rather than trying to make everyone around you feel the same way as you do. Everyone didn't hear it before last night they won't hear it today.

Predicting the future is part of the problem, the future happens one day at a time not 12 weeks or 2 years or 4 years at a time. What are you doing for tomorrow to be better than today? If the answer is nothing then why do you expect it to be better? 

[Longhorn94 2458]

here is what I am going to do. I am going to be quiet. I am going to listen. I am going to observe. I am going to learn. I am going to protect the vulnerable and the ones who need my help. and then I am going to do every single thing I can to support our country. 

This is what the American people wanted. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe they are right. Let's see what happens. 

[Frank Drebin 5694]

7 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I'm not wrong, though.  All of their state wide people are millionaire cosplay cowboys.

It’s mostly blue collar outdoor libertarian types who put Sheehy in office.  Most of the millionaires in the state are people like me and my family who don’t vote there.   His campaign did a good job of highlighting the truth about Tester and how he votes with Schumer.  
 

The tv ads were brutal on both sides.  I’m curious on how much money was spent per vote.  Had to be a record for a senate race.  

Edited November 6 by Frank Drebin