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[BurntOrange&White 40044]

Quinn is a Trump supporter and we all know he’s a pussy 

 

@G650 sorry I meant to quote your post here about conservatives being weak or whatever

Edited November 6 by BurntOrange&White

[linux 1662]

Just now, chainsaw said:

Here's the problem I see with Gen Alpha, Gen Z, and Millennial men: there's no way to change them. They are driven by entitlement. The have been force-fed propaganda about how they're failures unless they have trad wives and nuclear family to rule over. This has fundamentally changed who they are deep down and what their values are.

Once the GOP accomplished that, the only thing they needed to do was make clear appeals to those values. The details never mattered. Trump is the guy who "fights" for those values, and everyone standing in his way is the enemy.

They don't know or care what Project 2025 is, and the few who did look into it said "that sounds great!"

Its entitlement but also a culture of shame, we are 12 years after the start of cancel culture of me too culture and that has scared the living shit out of them, they then congragate in discord servers and social media bubbles and come out turbo misoginists, It would not surprise me that Gen Z men voted for anti abortion just to get even with the female peers that shamed them. Women will have to dial back the sexual revolution really hard.

[chainsaw 9878]

Just now, linux said:

Its entitlement but also a culture of shame, we are 12 years after the start of cancel culture of me too culture and that has scared the living shit out of them, they then congragate in discord servers and social media bubbles and come out turbo misoginists, It would not surprise me that Gen Z men voted for anti abortion just to get even with the female peers that shamed them. Women will have to dial back the sexual revolution really hard.

Yes, silicon valley is fond of Zuckerberg-style mass deployments of unvetted, unethical social experiments. They took the formula that radicalized the Boomers and let it loose on the others. They all self-radicalized.

[BurntOrange&White 40044]

1 minute ago, linux said:

Its entitlement but also a culture of shame, we are 12 years after the start of cancel culture of me too culture and that has scared the living shit out of them, they then congragate in discord servers and social media bubbles and come out turbo misoginists, It would not surprise me that Gen Z men voted for anti abortion just to get even with the female peers that shamed them. Women will have to dial back the sexual revolution really hard.

Discord servers are current Twitter on steroids. 

[linux 1662]

South Korea is our future

[Frank Drebin 5654]

Just now, linux said:

South Korea is our future

Feelers versus thinkers.

[G650 14278]

3 minutes ago, linux said:

Women will have to dial back the sexual revolution really hard.

lol wut

[Evil Bill Obrien 3300]

32 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Welp Latinos…

 

Classic tale as old as time, the people who hate immigrants the most are slightly previous immigrants who just got their papers... "Fuck you, I got mine" to a T... Would be a real shame if some of those who were born here to undocumented parents and thought they were good thru birthright citizenship and voted for Trump got swept up in this too... a real shame

[GreenspointTexas 9683]

1 minute ago, linux said:

South Korea is our future

Hell, we are already eating dogs and cats here, so….

[MissingInAction 25204]

9 hours ago, McCroskey said:

We’ll be fine. Set a calendar reminder for 4 years from now.

Ha! Every day will seem like a year with this Putin puppet in charge 

[Born to Run 6569]

5 minutes ago, linux said:

Its entitlement but also a culture of shame, we are 12 years after the start of cancel culture of me too culture and that has scared the living shit out of them, they then congragate in discord servers and social media bubbles and come out turbo misoginists, It would not surprise me that Gen Z men voted for anti abortion just to get even with the female peers that shamed them. Women will have to dial back the sexual revolution really hard.

Ah yes, we need to be more like Afghanistan to fix this!

[linux 1662]

Just now, G650 said:

lol wut

Look at the graph on South Korea, the sexual revolution is pissing off young men to unsalvageable levels, they want a 50s distopia, a wife and kids and they will burn the world to get it.

[linux 1662]

Just now, Born to Run said:

Ah yes, we need to be more like Afghanistan to fix this!

Dude I was praying SK was a few years off, and that the female vote could offset it, it can't we are riding into really dark territory.

[BurntOrange&White 40044]

1 minute ago, Born to Run said:

Ah yes, we need to be more like Afghanistan to fix this!

This rhetoric is why the Democratic Party is struggling to grasp young people 18-40 year old males. 

[G650 14278]

1 minute ago, linux said:

Look at the graph on South Korea, the sexual revolution is pissing off young men to unsalvageable levels, they want a 50s distopia, a wife and kids and they will burn the world to get it.

So your answer is to sexually enslave women?

[Red Five 40898]

Just now, G650 said:

So your answer is to sexually enslave women?

Hmmm will this include Aubrey Plaza?

[G650 14278]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

This rhetoric is why the Democratic Party is struggling to grasp young people 18-40 year old males. 

I'm not exactly sure how you can advocate anything other than treat women with respect and claim to be a decent human. Which is literally all anyone is saying.

[Leeroy Jenkins 2415]

1 hour ago, Chopper said:

The media covered for Trump's decline. And they still do. 

The media also normalized Trump's behavior.  

[DanTheHorn 4966]

22 minutes ago, linux said:

It is indirect, Gen Z women are not sleeping with Gen Z men (well they are but for the absolute top men, leaving an incel army) that is a nuclear level meltdown powder keg, but that is a problem for 3-4 generations from now, manufacturing job failures are today's problem.

Define "top men" since I am just old from the days when men bragged about actual accomplishments and like Mahar said a little charm and self grooming goes a long way in not being an incel. 

Edited November 6 by DanTheHorn
Also, for you olds with gen z sons I can only imagine there is crap on that side too.

[66BUFF 2565]

20 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said:

Attacking men started on Disney. I use to tell my daughters (no pics) you guys are in for a rude awaking because men are not moronic and whinny. They grew up and guess what the rude awaking was mine most gen Z men are whinny morons be they conservatives or democrats. The thing is they don't like being reminded of it, they like their egos stroked without earning it. I blame Disney for the men we have today.

[linux 1662]

Just now, G650 said:

So your answer is to sexually enslave women?

Were they enslaved 20 years ago? somthing big changed dude like really badly you just don't see because you aged out, and to offset it women are not voting against a turbo misoginist 45% voted for him. incel rage might be enough because it was razor thin margin, but this is alarm bells level of we are going to go through a major war level of alarmism.

[linux 1662]

I have never been more worried that Gen Z men lied about who they voted for A) there is no cavalry to save us demographically B) meaning they lied to their female peers to keep getting laid but still want to enslave them and turn them into baby making factories. Furthering the shame economy and driving them harder into fascism.

[BurntOrange&White 40044]

7 minutes ago, G650 said:

I'm not exactly sure how you can advocate anything other than treat women with respect and claim to be a decent human. Which is literally all anyone is saying.

You can be all those things, do all those while also not making the 18-40 male demo seem like they’re being attacked. The general feel of the that range is that if you don’t 110% support women completely you’re a POS and that women are equal or even better than you. Thats just flat out the perception. Men by nature don’t want to hear that stuff. Just stroke egos. Also that is your blue collar voting base that from what we saw last night aligns with Hispanic males.  

 

It goes all the way back to this ad...and continuing promotion of stuff like this....meanwhile the republican party is capitalizing on that.

 

Edited November 6 by BurntOrange&White

[MrBig 5444]

2 minutes ago, linux said:

I have never been more worried that Gen Z men lied about who they voted for A) there is no cavalry to save us demographically B) meaning they lied to their female peers to keep getting laid but still want to enslave them and turn them into baby making factories. Furthering the shame economy and driving them harder into fascism.

How many Reagan Republicans really turned their backs on Trump? I think a lot of people voted for him but just didn’t make their support public for obvious reasons. 

[G650 14278]

5 minutes ago, linux said:

somthing big changed dude like really badly

I literally created a thread about it earlier.

[linux 1662]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

You can be all those things, do all those while also not making the 18-40 male demo seem like they’re being attacked. The general feel of the that range is that if you don’t 110% support women completely you’re a POS and that women are equal or even better than you. Thats just flat out the perception. Men by nature don’t want to hear that stuff. Just stroke egos. Also that is your blue collar voting base that from what we saw last night aligns with Hispanic males.  

Exactly stroke fucking egos is how women got suffrage in the first place, to loop it back around Disney movies taught women how to dull edgy men, but we are reaching an inflection where zero contact with women is causing men to get edgier and edgier.

[G650 14278]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

The general feel of the that range is that if you don’t 110% support women completely you’re a POS and that women are equal or even better than you.

I mean, strike off the "better than you" part, then yes, that's exactly what it means. Looking out for the less empowered is one of the absolute fundamental hallmarks of masculinity, and these guys are failing.

[Old Freak Nasty 821]

Let's see what the next 2 years brings before we can wrestle some control of the legislative branch back.  Most important to avoid a war involving NATO and complete cratering of the economy by tariffs and contraction of available labor.  Probably a 50-50 shot at best for either.

Sad to say, but we will have to deal with voting rights, women's rights, and climate change maybe afterwards depending on how well democrats do in 2026.  Will be interesting to see movement patterns within the US in the next two years.

[DanTheHorn 4966]

4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Thats just flat out the perception. Men by nature don’t want to hear that stuff. Just stroke egos. Also that is your blue collar voting base that from what we saw last night aligns with Hispanic males.  

 

[linux 1662]

2 minutes ago, G650 said:

I mean, strike off the "better than you" part, then yes, that's exactly what it means. Looking out for the less empowered is one of the absolute fundamental hallmarks of masculinity, and these guys are failing.

They are failing, but nothing is being done about it, cancel culture and me too did unimaginable damage to Gen Z gender relations, women need to stroke egos hard, you are not voting enough to offset it, and the male ego is the most dangerous thing in the world.

[G650 14278]

Just now, linux said:

male ego is the most dangerous thing in the world.

As a man, I have no idea WTF you are talking about. I grew up in an era of tough love.

[BurntOrange&White 40044]

Just now, G650 said:

As a man, I have no idea WTF you are talking about. I grew up in an era of tough love.

Well 18-40 year olds didn't. They grew up being told shit completely different.

[Brandywine 1317]

Since Trump doesn’t have to run again he can really do nothing for the next four years. He’ll probably spend more than half his term in Florida, playing golf counting donations, threatening to release private info of GOP members like Lindsey Graham, letting Vlad know about secret stuff - they won’t impeach him a third time since he controls everything. Let Vance run the meetings in DC. Melania can move full time to NY and he won’t have to deal with her. He might even have a little ring a ding ding with a couple of the cute little aides traveling with him. Life is grand!!!!!!  

[Hookah Horns 3083]

19 minutes ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

Classic tale as old as time, the people who hate immigrants the most are slightly previous immigrants who just got their papers... "Fuck you, I got mine" to a T... Would be a real shame if some of those who were born here to undocumented parents and thought they were good thru birthright citizenship and voted for Trump got swept up in this too... a real shame

I can at least understand why some legal immigrants would resent the illegal ones. Even so, it still shocks me that Trump got so many Hispanic votes. 

[gmr548 16617]

8 hours ago, Captain Obvious said:

At this point, it's probably dicey to even nominate a minority male unless you've got another Obama/lightning in a bottle candidate.

Need to find another centrist white male who won't rock the boat.  That'll certainly anger the progressive portion of the party, but at this point we're past "fool me twice, shame on you" territory. 

 

3 hours ago, boilerhorn said:

NSIAP - she only got 78% in Philadelphia.  Lowest I can find - Kerry got 80% in 2004.
FAR fewer votes than Biden.

D's need to do a post mortem on this and craft a good plan for 2026.  Like it or not, it's clear Harris was not a good candidate.  And that die was cast in 2020, when she was chosen as the de facto successor to Biden.  Biden chose to step down too late.  etc.  And, her plans did not resonate with voters.  SMH.

 

I'm not sure I buy that another milquetoast, Republican lite appeal is the play after several cycles of underperformance and defeat with that approach. We're not going to out-Republican them and that's not even a goal really worth winning for. There has to be a clear moral contrast and a push for structural reform. Trump is a symptom, not a disease.

Harris was a good candidate in the context. She was dealt a tough hand, unprecedented in modern history. Hell, she was the only choice with Biden stepping aside when he did. If Biden was going to step aside, 2023 was the time. That's on him and the Democratic Party more so than Harris.

@aggie08 was correct in his assessment that Biden's legacy is going to go down the toilet. To be fair, the Democratic apparatus owns some blame there too. Biden would have won in 2016, but I don't know that the party was keen on him running.

[linux 1662]

1 minute ago, G650 said:

As a man, I have no idea WTF you are talking about. I grew up in an era of tough love.

No shit I am a man as well, but you probably had women in your life that dulled it, made it healthy, men are not interacting with women at younger ages, not sex, not friendship, not anything. This is end of the world fuel.

[G650 14278]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Well 18-40 year olds didn't. They grew up being told shit completely different.

I know, it's an issue.

 

As I said, I made a thread about it. 

 

[G650 14278]

Just now, linux said:

dulled it

Dulled what?

[DanTheHorn 4966]

5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Thats just flat out the perception. Men by nature don’t want to hear that stuff. Just stroke egos. Also that is your blue collar voting base that from what we saw last night aligns with Hispanic males.  

This weakness in us men in which we need our egos stoked has always been known and that is why the saying exist that by a good man there is a good woman. The return for the woman was that we would be strong in the face of adversity and get us through it by suppressing our emotions and getting an ulcer. Now many men want their ego stroked but want to run in the face of adversity and mostly play video games. There is some good ones out there that had their Dads teach them well so not all gen z are that way.

[Hookah Horns 3083]

1 minute ago, Brandywine said:

Since Trump doesn’t have to run again he can really do nothing for the next four years. He’ll probably spend more than half his term in Florida, playing golf counting donations, threatening to release private info of GOP members like Lindsey Graham, letting Vlad know about secret stuff - they won’t impeach him a third time since he controls everything. Let Vance run the meetings in DC. Melania can move full time to NY and he won’t have to deal with her. He might even have a little ring a ding ding with a couple of the cute little aides traveling with him. Life is grand!!!!!!  

The diehard Maga true believers he's surrounded himself with - the real Handmaid's Tale style freaks - will run the executive branch for him. 

[troph 24912]

49 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Good luck with that it’s a losing battle in the scheme of life. Trying to detach kids from new media and ways of consuming information in this modern digital world and the AI world moving forward is a lost cause. For every person like you that tries it there are countless more just letting their kids be iPad kids and growing up within that realm

it's not an out right ban of social media, it's making sure they have balance in their lives and honestly above all else they don't lose the desire to impress girls and try and convince girls to like them. That is the fundamental issue for gen z boys and once they are chasing the girls, they will do what they need to do to get laid.

47 minutes ago, EuroHorn said:

Well don’t let them post on this board

this is not an echo chamber, there are clearly like minded folks but the news sources are varied and are not fringe.

[gmr548 16617]

6 minutes ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

Let's see what the next 2 years brings before we can wrestle some control of the legislative branch back.  Most important to avoid a war involving NATO and complete cratering of the economy by tariffs and contraction of available labor.  Probably a 50-50 shot at best for either.

Sad to say, but we will have to deal with voting rights, women's rights, and climate change maybe afterwards depending on how well democrats do in 2026.  Will be interesting to see movement patterns within the US in the next two years.

There's still a legitimate path to a Democratic House, but either way Democrats are going to dominate the 2026 midterms. I can tell you that right now just because we know that 1.) The midterm electorate favors Democrats now in the way it used to favor Republicans; and 2.) Trump will be an unpopular President.

It basically won't matter what they trot out there. Democrats will have a major House majority after 2026. The Senate map is unfriendly and they'll net two seats, tops (NC and ME).

That will put a check on the most batshit legislation but won't stop anything when it comes to establishing an extremely right-wing judiciary.

[Captainant 27826]

1 minute ago, gmr548 said:

That will put a check on the most batshit legislation but won't stop anything when it comes to establishing an extremely right-wing judiciary.

They're bought and sold by our American oligarchs. 

[linux 1662]

6 minutes ago, G650 said:

Dulled what?

Edgy men, men at that age are voting for Trump in part because they want to see the world burn, they think of themselves as the Joker

[GreenspointTexas 9683]

We need hispanics to hurry up and increase their birthrates more 

[closetohumping 17476]

3 hours ago, Pancho said:

It was her race and gender. You don’t want to admit that because you know how it looks.

 

I’ve told this website before that parts of the Longhorn fan base are no different from A&M. This is one of the examples. 

Football fans in general are conservative imo.  We're not as far right as aggy

[Dutchrudder 11154]

So are we still doing Chili's or nah?

[Red Five 40898]

How long has it been since Dotard said he could murder someone and not lose any votes? He certainly had that pegged at an early stage. 

What a fucking superpower. Here, old crazy felon, have this ability to do and say whatever and not lose any support. Go crazy. 

[DaysOff 7976]

Since Trump doesn’t have to run again he can really do nothing for the next four years. He’ll probably spend more than half his term in Florida, playing golf counting donations, threatening to release private info of GOP members like Lindsey Graham, letting Vlad know about secret stuff - they won’t impeach him a third time since he controls everything. Let Vance run the meetings in DC. Melania can move full time to NY and he won’t have to deal with her. He might even have a little ring a ding ding with a couple of the cute little aides traveling with him. Life is grand!!!!!!  

I actually want him to live 4 more years now. He'll do less damage playing golf and assaulting women than president JV.

[InkaUtexas 26172]

8 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

I can at least understand why some legal immigrants would resent the illegal ones. Even so, it still shocks me that Trump got so many Hispanic votes. 

Cross posting.

Add to this a few other issues that run deep in the Hispanic community.

1- Their idea of economy is different. The average dude does not have a stock portfolio.

2- The Catholic church. even if they do not attend, it is part of their culture.

3- LatinX. Most I hang out with hate it.

4- They give zero fucks about Taylor Swift and Clooney.

They do not think they are going to be deported once here. And if they are, it is they were unlucky or broke the law.