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2 minutes ago, pearlandhorn said:

In the end, I think the majority of Americans are fed up with being told how to live.

I honestly find this line of thinking fascinating as it's something that I have never perceived from the Democrats in almost 40 years (Tipper Gore), but get bombarded by from the Republicans.

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5 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Most voters were looking around in a post covid world saying things like “damn things are expensive” and “i cant buy a house.”

so instead of voting for the party that is currently in power, they went back to the guy that was in power when things were cheaper

I'll take it a step further. They would have elected any Republican nominee. It just happened to be Trump.

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1 minute ago, G650 said:

I honestly find this line of thinking fascinating as it's something that I have never perceived from the Democrats in almost 40 years (Tipper Gore), but get bombarded by from the Republicans.

It's also hypocritical, and one of those bullshit lines people throw out to justify voting for the party that they always going to vote for anyway.

Michelle Obama makes attempts to make America healthier - STOP CONTROLLING US

RFK Jr indicates he will make attempts to make America healthier - yaaaaaas queen

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8 hours ago, ulukinatme said:

Yeah, took better care of my family than Obama did, much better than Biden did.

I'm genuinely curious. What did your special needs kid say about that clip when they saw it? Or, when they see it?

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9 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It's moreso that women are being left to die while miscarrying for days until the nonviable fetus' heart stops. These are not women who want to kill babies. They desperately want to be mothers, but unfortunately miscarried. 

Why do you think those women deserve death?

Do you really have to ask? The answer to every version of this question is just "because he's Johnny." He's the worst person that's ever posted on any of the iterations of these boards going back to HornFans. Yes, that includes TxTow and TTom and Icono. He is what he appears to be, there's not going to be some deep and profound explanation there. 

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13 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

I do not believe the Constitution was ever meant to protect the right to kill the unborn.  States traditionally -- from ratification up until the Warren Court -- had the right to have whatever laws they saw fit on abortion. 

If Mr. Walz is correct about what "should" be, then there can either be a constitutional amendment or some sort of federal codification of the right.  Nothing stopped Democrats from doing so when they had a filibuster proof majority under Obama.  They never even tried.

Geography controls all sorts of rights for women and men, so I do not understand that logic.  States have different laws on plenty of stuff.  In one state, you will go to prison for a long time and be a registered sex offender if you have sex with a 17 year old.  In others the age of consent is 18.  And others it is 16.  States have various criminal codes for what drugs you choose to ingest. 

A woman's life shouldn't be a state right, period.

 

Especially when the very restrictive states are threatening healthcare providers with fines and jail if they perform said procedures as well as trying to access a patients private medical records to try and convict them of crimes. 

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18 minutes ago, pearlandhorn said:

It’s a brilliant move by the Republicans as it completely becomes irrelevant in national election. Trump has said multiple times that he will not institute a national abortion ban. If people want to be around like minded people, move to NY, CA, MN…states that allow for abortion up to point of birth (which is mind boggling to me). The fear mongering MSM has done this election cycle is outlandish.

Fewer than 1% of abortions happen in 3rd trimester and those are usually for medical reasons. 

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99% of abortions are within the critical fetal growth times of conception, first heart beat, genetic testing, and anatomy scans.

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Three unprovable things I absolutely believe: 

1. If Colt doesn’t get hurt against Bama we win the MNC. 
 

2. If any other team than the Titans and fucking Jeff Fisher drafts VY he goes on to have a great 15 year NFL career. 
 

3. If the Democratic establishment doesn’t come together in the primary to shank Bernie he wins the nomination and Trump is never heard from again. 

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30 minutes ago, pearlandhorn said:

Noted and fair point. The repealing of Roe has essentially taken the issue off the federal level and regulated it to the states, where it should be in my opinion. Vote in local and state elections to have your voice heard. Trump won multiple states that ratified abortion (states you noted). To me, this shows that there are national issues that should be addressed at the national level, and state issues that should be addressed at the state level.

It’s a brilliant move by the Republicans as it completely becomes irrelevant in national election. Trump has said multiple times that he will not institute a national abortion ban. If people want to be around like minded people, move to NY, CA, MN…states that allow for abortion up to point of birth (which is mind boggling to me). The fear mongering MSM has done this election cycle is outlandish.

In the end, I think the majority of Americans are fed up with being told how to live. The government, particularly the federal government, just needs to leave us the fuck alone and let people live their lives, not tell us how to live.

In the case of abortion, the Democratic position is that the federal government absolutely should let people live their lives AND so should state governments. What you are clearly stating is that you in fact do favor state governments telling us how to live. You're fine with Big Brother, so long as it's Austin dictating how you live.

This is the contradiction built within the State's Rights argument, in my view. You're placing the rights of the State over the rights of the individual, making you pro-Big Government. It's the same argument made back in the Antebellum and Jim Crow South.

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"The State's Right to do what?" - Citizen

"The State's Right to limit your rights." - Slaver/Segregationist

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8 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Three unprovable things I absolutely believe: 

1. If Colt doesn’t get hurt against Bama we win the MNC. 
 

2. If any other team than the Titans and fucking Jeff Fisher drafts VY he goes on to have a great 15 year NFL career. 
 

3. If the Democratic establishment doesn’t come together in the primary to shank Bernie he wins the nomination and Trump is never heard from again. 

IMO, it didnt matter which candidate either party ran with. The party not in power currently was always gonna win

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14 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

A woman's life shouldn't be a state right, period.

 

Especially when the very restrictive states are threatening healthcare providers with fines and jail if they perform said procedures as well as trying to access a patients private medical records to try and convict them of crimes. 

We shouldn’t call them fascists though cuz it might hurt their feels.

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17 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

A woman's life shouldn't be a state right, period.

 

Especially when the very restrictive states are threatening healthcare providers with fines and jail if they perform said procedures as well as trying to access a patients private medical records to try and convict them of crimes. 

We just disagree on that. It is an issue reserved to the states under the 10th Amendment.  Like most any criminal matter.  Just like some states have the death penalty and others do not.  Lives of men and women are a state issue with the death penalty also.

And if a search of records is an unlawful search and seizure, it can be addressed under the 4th Amendment.

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11 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

We just disagree on that. It is an issue reserved to the states under the 10th Amendment.  Like most any criminal matter.  Just like some states have the death penalty and others do not.  Lives of men and women are a state issue with the death penalty also.

And if a search of records is an unlawful search and seizure, it can be addressed under the 4th Amendment.

See this is how you know Johnny is trolling. He knows there's no real consequence to the state or its agents for unlawful searches and seizures. No accountability. He's bragging about that. 

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4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

See this is how you know Johnny is trolling. He knows there's no real consequence to the state or its agents for unlawful searches and seizures. No accountability. He's bragging about that. 

Reee all you want.  But no accountability?  Ever heard of the exclusionary rule? I am certain there is a robust amount of 4th Amendment case law on searches and seizures of patient medical records in criminal cases.  Because abortion is not the first time a state actor has tried to use medical records as evidence in a criminal proceeding.   

If a state actor violates the 4th, assert your rights in court.  If the state courts do not give you redress, we have federal courts.  File a habeas petition.

I am not trolling at all with this post.  

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The era of non populism is over, the population is too stupid to be guided by anything that is not a handout, hell we can't even call anyone Hitler anymore because they ask "who is he?"

Also the MSM needs to be completely ignored/abolished, they only exist to shackle democrats never Republicans. 

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2 hours ago, pearlandhorn said:

NY, CA, MN…states that allow for abortion up to point of birth (which is mind boggling to me). The fear mongering MSM has done this election cycle is outlandish.

Having these sentences back-to-back is utterly amazing.

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3 hours ago, SimonBolivar said:

Well he's going to have those Veep moments where he hasn't heard of a country or where he clearly didn't read the daily briefing and all that. He's not becoming a different person suddenly where he's a hard working intellectually curious 78 year old. 

 

The next day that he works will be the first one in his life.

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5 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

IMO there is no difference in far left white liberal and far right white conservative. Different side of the same coin.

The vast majority that voted for trump think this way but the smartest and most compassionate don't see it. Both sides are pretty bad nowdays.

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Election Day bomb threats overwhelmingly targeted Democrat-leaning counties

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/election-day-bomb-threats-overwhelmingly-targeted-democrat-leaning-rcna179006

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Bomb threats sent to polling places and ballot-counting locations in at least five battleground states across the U.S. Tuesday targeted mostly Democratic counties, an NBC News analysis has found.

The full extent of who received the bomb threats is not clear. None are believed to have been deemed credible. NBC News compiled a list of 67 locations in 19 counties, based on local news reports and state and local election officials’ statements, all of which appear to have received similar threats. Of the 67 locations, 56 were in 11 counties that voted for Joe Biden in the 2020 election, including the eight most populated. Those high-population Democratic counties include voting locations for Milwaukee, Wisconsin; Detroit, Michigan; Phoenix, Arizona; Atlanta, Georgia; and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Maricopa County, Arizona, which Biden won by a slim margin, has consistently been the subject of election denialism conspiracy theories. The other five — Michigan’s Wayne County, Pennsylvania’s Philadelphia County and Georgia’s DeKalb, Fulton and Gwinnett counties — were some of the largest Democratic strongholds in their respective states.

Much is still unknown about the threats, including the identity of who sent them. They do appear to have been designed to influence either the perception of the election outcome or the outcome itself, as all the threats known to NBC News were sent to the handful of battleground states widely believed by both parties to be crucial for winning the election. It’s also unclear if the threats tended to focus on urban counties because they are better known or contain more people, or because they tend to be Democratic strongholds.

“This is an extraordinary and very disturbing development,” said Larry Norden, the vice president of the elections and government program at NYU’s Brennan Center for Justice. “Whether it’s a foreign or domestic actor that was involved, there needs to be repercussions for it.”

“In some sense, we were lucky that there was a lot of preparation for this scenario going into 2024. I don’t know that anybody expected the coordinated campaign that seems like that we had, but there were a lot of meetings of law enforcement and election officials, tabletop exercises and trainings to be prepared for this, and as a result, I think the disruption was mostly minimized,” Norden said.

Some locations that temporarily shut down on Tuesday, like DeKalb and Philadelphia County, extended their voting hours that evening. None of the threats resulted in a voting location closing for the day and there is no indication that the evacuations had a meaningful impact on voter turnout.

Some of the threats also included counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump in 2020, including the comparatively smaller Blair and Clearfield Counties in Pennsylvania.

The FBI said in an emailed statement Tuesday that “many” of the threats “appear to originate from Russian email domains.” Some additional threats appeared to have been sent from a French service, a U.S. official briefed on the matter told NBC News. Anyone with unrestricted internet access can sign up for email services in other countries, making it difficult to deduce who actually sent the threats.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has openly blamed Russia for the threats since late Tuesday morning, though it’s not clear if he’s referencing the ones coming through a Russian email service or has access to additional intelligence. The FBI declined to provide further comment. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which in the lead-up to the election made formal attributions of online propaganda campaigns to countries like Iran and Russia, declined to comment.

A spokesperson for Russia’s embassy in Washington, D.C., denied the country was responsible.

“We have seen the allegations by US officials you refer to, but no proof of Russian involvement was presented either to the public, or to the Embassy,” the spokesperson said. “The US Authorities didn’t even bother to contact us on this matter.”

 

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6 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Most voters were looking around in a post covid world saying things like “damn things are expensive” and “i cant buy a house.”

 

so instead of voting for the party that is currently in power, they went back to the guy that was in power when things were cheaper

That's the sum total of it for the vast majority of Trump voters.  Not all, but most.

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4 minutes ago, Goredho said:

That's the sum total of it for the vast majority of Trump voters.  Not all, but most.

I agree completely.  Immigration didn't help.  Woke nonsense didn't help.  But at the end of the day it's always the economy (stupid).  D's will have every opportunity in the world to regain votes next cycle if they can fix messaging and focus on shit people actually care about as the average voter simply does not comprehend that prices are NEVER going back to pre-COVID levels under any administration.   And if Trump actually implements his tariffs high interest rates won't be going anywhere either absent a recession.

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2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

None of the trumpets here recognized or denounced this either. 

Let's find out who did this first.  Might have been the dude that painted racist graffiti on Lebron's Brentwood mansion.  Or the MAGA Country fellas that attacked Jussie.

Or maybe it was the white supremacists that you claimed was out there lynching people in Houston a couple years ago.  You remember that one?

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